AkinwaleJJ:


Walahi talahi e no better for Atheism!

See the definition of "REAL CHRISTIAN" from a person who doesn't acknowledge CHRIST!

oteneaaron:

The myth or story of CHRIST in the Bible is not original.

oteneaaron:

A "real Christian" is a person who understands and knows that "the Father" or the "Universal Mind" lives within him or her - not outside, but deep within him or her.

AkinwaleJJ:



Ọmọ use your brain and don't allow hatred for the TRUTH blur your senses.

If there is nothing like MUSIC it's stupid trying to define MUSICIAN.

So if there is no CHRIST it's insane defining CHRISTIAN!

oteneaaron:

Lol.
You read but cannot understand.
It is quite unfortunate.
Also, who spoke about hatred?
Why would I hate you?
Go and do some research about the CHRISTOS from ancient history.

Courz:

You have exposed their foolishness. They will dodge you. No o. They are not false prophecies. They are wrong expectations. Foolish people with brains made of shaft!

MaxInDHouse:


Foolish people that loves their neighbours as themselves, foolish people that have love among themselves, foolish people that will not carry weapons against their fellowman, foolish people that always go easily in the society.
If that's what stupidity means then i will love to be stupid without further explanation! Matthew 5:11-12

Courz:


Since the inception of your Cult, Watchtower has been discussing other churches calling for their destruction. Now it is time to talk about your own. Since inception, your Cult has been pointing fingers at the Catholics, making fun of them because of Child Sexual Abuse, even saying that Child Sexual Abuse is proof that they are part of false religion. How come you JWs now have the same problem and have now joined False religion?

MaxInDHouse:


YES, False religions should stop operation if we can find a better performing group!

Courz:

Oh Yes. False Religions like you. You even placed a permanent stain on yourselves with your numerous failed prophecies thereby giving you that Badge of False Religion for life.

Now that you have admitted that you are in a False religion directly based on the definition of Watchtower, can you see the stupidity you all displayed by Lying to yourselves that your False prophecies are Wrong expectations? Why disgrace yourselves further when Watchtower explicitly described your Cult as a Prophet? If they admitted such and went ahead to proclaim False prophecies which are disgusting to Almighty God and Jesus, why call it Wrong expectations? When Jesus comes and judges you JWs, is this excuse you will give to him and outrightly lie to him that there were not False prophecies? Look at the standard God has for all christians. They have never changed. Look at his opinion of False Prophets. They never changed. And he sent his Son to come and warn us again against False prophets. But you are proving stubborn.

What will you tell Jesus when he asks you JWs, I asked you people to be alert and never fall for False Prophets. I specifically gave you signs of these false prophets and the things they will say about me. I told you to stay away from them. Yet, you refused because their words matter more than mine. You even called me a False Prophet and don't see anything wrong with the False prophecies. Mad MaxInDHouse, What will you tell him?

OkCornel:


Ah alright.

MaxInDHouse:


So tell me the name of your church so i can cross over to the better performing church than Jehovah's Witnesses!

AkinwaleJJ:


You are empty upstairs!

There shouldn't be any definition for Christian if there is no Christ, you can't eat your cake and still have it!

Courz:


Use your brain! You are not stupid, are you? Your many words are not helping. Read my question over and over again. Think think think!! I know Watchtower has shut off that part of your brain responsible for critical thinking. You are deflecting.

You JWs believe that 1914 was the starting of War, Famines, Earthquakes, etc But history disagrees with you. If you do proper research in history books and encyclopaedias which Watchtower loves to quote, you will find out that 1914 was not the starting period of these events.

Jesus told his disciples that they will see and hear About War, famines, Earthquakes, etc. The problem with you JWs is you read verses and apply to yourselves only forgetting that Jesus was also addressing his disciples.

Tell me, if 1914 is truly the year Jesus became King and that was marked by the above events, how will the disciples see or hear about the events in 1914? All of his disciples would be dead by 1914 and they wouldn't see or hear about the above events if the events really started in 1914. Can you see that the date 1914 doesn't correspond with the words of Jesus to his disciples?

Courz:


Where is the 2nd fulfillment to take place in 1914 in that verse? There is nothing like 2nd fulfillment in this verse in the first place. The Most high has the authority to give to anyone, even the lowliest, the Kingdoms of the world. The lowliest can be anybody. Jesus wasn't mentioned here. The verse is only emphasising on the authority and power of God higher than King Nebuchadnezzar. Shikena. Where is it? Why are you adding your own assumption to this verse? Are you supposed to add to scriptures or subtract?

MaxInDHouse:


So tell me the name of your church so i can cross over to the better performing church than Jehovah's Witnesses!

Aemmyjah:


You are like a lazy student, all he wants is to hear the bell for break or closing time. Nothing will ever make sense to him in any aspects of academic

Jesus was not asked about the 'SIGNS' but the 'sign' and he gave several aspects just as I may ask you for your 'password' and not 'passwords'. Your password may have up to hundred alphabet, figures and symbols if you wish but your password is still a password for YOUR OWN device. Similarly for a fingerprint, everyone has it's own fingerprints but no two fingerprint are the same and if you examine a fingerprint closely, you will see lines.
Similarly, Jesus Christ prophecy about his presence as king later confirmed by the revelation he have to john about what will happen "in the Lord's day" are various. Even before Jesus Christ came on earth, there had been periods of wars even till now, earthquakes, famines and the rest. But we are not talking about an aspect of his sign but the fulfillment of ALL that he said and not in a geographic scale but 'on the inhabited earth'
So, which era in man's history has been plagued with wars, food shortages, pestilences, moral decay in the attitudes of people, wars and reports of wars, blasphemy, increase in lawlessness, growth in lack of love for God, disobedience to parents, love of self, love of money, an era where times are critical to deal with, rise on false prophets, hypocrisy and love of pleasures and as 2 Timothy 3:13 says, are getting not better but worse?. What age or time period are these thinga fulfilled GLOBALLY?

Some churchgoers even say things like 'end time' or last days. I showed this to an atheist and he did not deny it but argued that the Bible said last days and not 'last years' and many decades have passed so the last days must have expired but these things still influence us as we are fearful of what is to come seeing the economic, security and moral breakdown. You can go and correct their thinking. Of all people I met in this forum, you are the one with the most unreasonable thing to offer. Keep fighting yourself and allow what is not bothering us to bother you when you're not one of us.

Aemmyjah:


Lol, see your life? Blind men can never see!
Did you even consider Luke 21:24 especially the last words of Jesus Christ. What appointed times was he referring to? When did they begin
You have nothing to offer so argue with your keyboard

MaxInDHouse:


YES, False religions should stop operation if we can find a better performing group!

Aemmyjah:


I'm willing to crossover too!
At least, we did not grow up or raised as Jehovah's witnesses

MaxInDHouse:


Foolish people that loves their neighbours as themselves, foolish people that have love among themselves, foolish people that will not carry weapons against their fellowman, foolish people that always go easily in the society.
If that's what stupidity means then i will love to be stupid without further explanation! Matthew 5:11-12

Courz:


Look at the verses below. Daniel interpreted the dream and the prophecy happened to Nebuchadnezzar as stated. Do you see any 2nd fulfillment here? Do you see any 607 bce, 2520 years and 1914 here?

Aemmyjah:


You are like a lazy student, all he wants is to hear the bell for break or closing time. Nothing will ever make sense to him in any aspects of academic

Jesus was not asked about the 'SIGNS' but the 'sign' and he gave several aspects just as I may ask you for your 'password' and not 'passwords'. Your password may have up to hundred alphabet, figures and symbols if you wish but your password is still a password for YOUR OWN device. Similarly for a fingerprint, everyone has it's own fingerprints but no two fingerprint are the same and if you examine a fingerprint closely, you will see lines.
Similarly, Jesus Christ prophecy about his presence as king later confirmed by the revelation he have to john about what will happen "in the Lord's day" are various. Even before Jesus Christ came on earth, there had been periods of wars even till now, earthquakes, famines and the rest. But we are not talking about an aspect of his sign but the fulfillment of ALL that he said and not in a geographic scale but 'on the inhabited earth'
So, which era in man's history has been plagued with wars, food shortages, pestilences, moral decay in the attitudes of people, wars and reports of wars, blasphemy, increase in lawlessness, growth in lack of love for God, disobedience to parents, love of self, love of money, an era where times are critical to deal with, rise on false prophets, hypocrisy and love of pleasures and as 2 Timothy 3:13 says, are getting not better but worse?. What age or time period are these thinga fulfilled GLOBALLY?

Some churchgoers even say things like 'end time' or last days. I showed this to an atheist and he did not deny it but argued that the Bible said last days and not 'last years' and many decades have passed so the last days must have expired but these things still influence us as we are fearful of what is to come seeing the economic, security and moral breakdown. You can go and correct their thinking. Of all people I met in this forum, you are the one with the most unreasonable thing to offer. Keep fighting yourself and allow what is not bothering us to bother you when you're not one of us.

I have told Courz so, times without number,on this forum.

Courz does NOT have any thinking cap to put on.
He plagiarize apostates FALSE posts and pass off their GIBBERISH.

Courz:


Where is the 2nd fulfillment to take place in 1914 in that verse? There is nothing like 2nd fulfillment in this verse in the first place. The Most high has the authority to give to anyone, even the lowliest, the Kingdoms of the world. The lowliest can be anybody. Jesus wasn't mentioned here. The verse is only emphasising on the authority and power of God higher than King Nebuchadnezzar. Shikena. Where is it? Why are you adding your own assumption to this verse? Are you supposed to add to scriptures or subtract?

Look at the verse. Where is the Calculation of 607 bce, 2520 years and 1914 in this verse?

Courz:


Oh Yes. False Religions like you. You even placed a permanent stain on yourselves with your numerous failed prophecies thereby giving you that Badge of False Religion for life.

Now that you have admitted that you are in a False religion directly based on the definition of Watchtower, can you see the stupidity you all displayed by Lying to yourselves that your False prophecies are Wrong expectations? Why disgrace yourselves further when Watchtower explicitly described your Cult as a Prophet? If they admitted such and went ahead to proclaim False prophecies which are disgusting to Almighty God and Jesus, why call it Wrong expectations? When Jesus comes and judges you JWs, is this excuse you will give to him and outrightly lie to him that there were not False prophecies? Look at the standard God has for all christians. They have never changed. Look at his opinion of False Prophets. They never changed. And he sent his Son to come and warn us again against False prophets. But you are proving stubborn.

Aemmyjah:


I'm willing to crossover too!
At least, we did not grow up or raised as Jehovah's witnesses

Templee333:

what makes u think that religion is needed to worship God? Doesn't ur bible tell u that the whole heaven cannot contain HIM & that the earth is HIS footstool? Why do you now assume that God lives in religion? Did Jesus build any Kingdom Hall when he walked the earth (according to ur bible)? So that means he didn't worship God. Let me reserve my strength for Sunday school tomorrow. You guys are just stressing me up with ur dullnes in understanding & yet u claim bible scholars..

Sunday school preneur atheist,@ John 20:17, in your Bible did Jesus Christ tell you he worship God our heavenly Father?

Yes !


You have no strength to defend your GIBBERISH.
Ok nau.

Aemmyjah:


Your case na sorry case
Shame

OgaNightmare:
Our Lord Jesus said at Matthew 12:37:
"For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.”

*Now let's here from the horses mouth the self-a claimed God's channel of communication.

"So, does Jehovah have a prophet to help them, to warn them of dangers and to declare things to come?
IDENTIFYING THE "PROPHET"
These questions can be answered in the affirmative. Who is this prophet?
... This "prophet" was not one man, but was a body of men and women. It was the small group of footstep followers of Jesus Christ, known at that time as INTERNATIONAL BIBLE STUDENTS. Today they are known as JEHOVAH'S CHRISTIAN WITNESSES.
... OF COURSE, it is easy to say that this GROUP ACTS AS A "PROPHET" of GOD. It is another thing to prove it. The only way that this can be done is to REVIEW THE RECORD. Thus this group of anointed followers of Jesus Christ, doing a work in Christendom paralleling Ezekiel's work among the Jews, were manifestly the modern-day Ezekiel, the "prophet" commissioned by Jehovah to declare the good news of God's Messianic kingdom and to give warning to Christendom." Watchtower 1972 Apr 1 pp.197-199 'They Shall Know that a Prophet Was Among Them'

*Spot on they've now declared themselves as Jehovah's prophet, and the even told us to check the records for ourselves, Interesting right? Shall we....Let's go

"The date 1925 is EVEN MORE DISTINCTLY INDICATED BY THE SCRIPTURES because it is FIXED by the law God gave to Israel. Viewing the present situation in Europe, one wonders how it will be possible to hold back the explosion much longer; and that even before 1925 the great crisis will be reached and probably passed".Watchtower, September 1, 1922, page 262.

"Reports are heard of brothers selling their homes and property and planning to finish out the rest of their days in this old system in the pioneer service. CERTAINLY THIS IS A FINE WAY to spend the SHORT TIME REMAINING before the wicked WORLD'S END." Kingdom Ministry May 1974 p.3 How Are You Using Your Life?

#None of this prophecies were fulfilled, nothing happened, so what next, did they past the test as "God's True Prophets". Well the next line says it all......

*So I conclude with the words of Watchtower May,1 1997, page 8:
"Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of FALSE MESSENGERS. HOW DOES HE EXPOSE THEM? HE FRUSTRATES their SIGNS and PREDICTIONS. In this way he shows that they are SELF-APPOINTED prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own FALSE REASONING - yes, their FOOLISH, FLESHLY THINKING!"

*Brothers and Sisters, Friends, Enemies, Yet to be friends. You remember the words of Christ?

"For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.”

*The WATCHTOWER has used their own mouth to confess that they are actually false prophets......they will continue shooting themselves in the leg.
Courz
Oteenaron
Temple333

Empty Rants and tantrums of WAILERS.
Check the records of 1 Samuel 16:6, and 1 Samuel 3:20, Is prophet Samuel's FALSE prediction in your Bible?

Check the records of Matthew 26:31-35,69-75 , Luke 24:21,25, Luke 19:11, are the disciples FALSE predictions in your Bible ?

They say God is Unchangeable CHANGER but the same people will forget that & always throw tantrums that Jehovah's servants change their doctrine.
Why are these WAILERS not offering animal sacrifices today as Moses did?
John 3:16 & Hebrews 10:10,God CHANGE the doctrine, you mumu WAILERS.

1 Corinthians 13:9-10, Jehovah's servants would never have perfect knowledge of everything until God's kingdom.

Just continue deceiving yourselves throwing tantrums like kids.

Janosky:


As if Jehovah's servants, Jesus followers didn't make FALSE predictions and prophecies (when Jesus Christ called them "Foolish", Luke 24:21,25) in Courz own Bible.

Courz:


Look at the verses below. You JWs like to quote Matthew 24 vs 19 and 20. But you never read verse 18. If you JWs really read that verse, your foolish Governing body would have dropped that lie 1914 doctrine a long time ago. After Jesus's resurrection, he appeared to his disciples and said those words below. He told them that All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. What does that mean? Jesus has become King. His Kingdom has started.

Look at the 2nd pic and 3rd pics. The verses are talking about the Authority of Jesus surpassing everything in heaven and on earth. Meaning He is King. The Apostle is confirming Jesus being King already in heaven. These verses didn't have to wait till 1914. Nowhere from Genesis to Revelation will you see that it was stated that Jesus waited till 1914 before he became King. These verses are telling you he is already King thousands of years ago. This is what Truth looks like. It connects the dots and make everything make sense. This tallies with the words of Jesus when he said his disciples will hear or see those events mentioned above.

Can you see the Lie of your 1914 doctrine? For you to have unsuccessfully explained how you JWs arrived at 1914 straight from the Bible proves that it is a lie. The Bible has confirmed it!
Can you see how the words of Jesus and the Bible have totally destroyed your 1914 doctrine? You JWs didn't need to go through all that trouble to calculate nonsense made up dates! The Bible has already answered everything.

Aemmyjah:


Keep repeating. Blind can never even feel light
The object of the message had something to do with Nebuchadnezzar but as verse 17 says, the decree by the watchers or messengers had something to do with people living and not just Nebuchadnezzar and they'll acknowledge the Most High
Was Nebuchadnezzar lowly in any way? Who in the Bible described himself as lowly in heart?
No more conversations with you
I don't enforce my beliefs on you. Even clergymen who challenged us on the subject of 1914 are wowed and wonder how one could have find out these especially seeing what began from 1914. It is not man but by means of God's spirit

Aemmyjah:


Shame on you
Compare psalm 110:1
Yes, Jesus was given all the authority from God and no one is disputing that of that he went to heaven. He was even head of the congregation
Have you read Revelation 12?
Again, shame on you