MaxInDHouse:


Go and condemn Jesus' first century Jewish disciples! John 21:21-23

Only a fool excuses himself because another person made the same error.
You preached falsehood and it directly affected the lives of millions of your innocent members who believed it

tctrills:

Only a fool excuses himself because another person made the same error.
You preached falsehood and it directly affected the lives of millions of your innocent members who believed it

What the first century Jewish disciples spread about apostle John affected only the twelve shey?

tctrills:

Good question

Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?
First you don't know if John died or not. Secondly, we would not defend the disciples for spreading falsehoods. And I see no reason to defend your organization. You should be responsible enough to own up your falsehoods

Ọmọ i'm still TEACHING you that wrong expectation doesn't make pure worship false.
That's the point!

MaxInDHouse:


What the first century Jewish disciples spread about apostle John affected only the twelve shey?

So the disciples spread falsehood and that permits you to spread falsehood. Those that make sense to you?
If all organizations give this excuse,then Christianity is lost.
Not only did you teach your members that nonsense, you also made them teach it to the rest of the world.
If you notice I have not criticized your organization for their false prophecies. They are not the only ones guilty of peddling falsehood. But when you defend falsehood it shows something is very wrong.

MaxInDHouse:


Ọmọ i'm still TEACHING you that wrong expectation doesn't make pure worship false.
That's the point!

Preaching falsehood and having a wrong expectation has 2 different meanings. Let me help you with the dictionary.

Falsehood
the state of being untrue.
"the truth or falsehood of the many legends which surround her"
a lie.
Wrong expectation
Could be a miscalculation.
False hope

oteneaaron:

Lol.
Keep looking for "real Christians" when you don't even know the true origins of Christianity.
A "real Christian" is a person who understands and knows that "the Father" or the "Universal Mind" lives within him or her - not outside, but deep within him or her.
What about you?
You worship and fear forces outside yourself - you practically worship the 8 men living in NYC as the "direct channel" to God.
Because if you were a "true Christian" as you claim, you would know that you must LOOK WITHIN.
To realize the "God Within", you don't need to be a part of any CULT group just like the Jehovah’s Witnesses.
The Universal Mind which some people call "God", is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent.
Since this Universal Mind is omnipresent, it automatically means that "GOD" lives in YOU.
Look Within!!
Stop giving your power away to men like you.
Lol.
What is pure worship?
Have you studied ancient history to understand the origins and evolution of Christianity?
Do you think your materialistic version of Christianity is "pure" ?
Go and read about the Gnostic Christians of the 2nd and 3rd century AD.
The Christianity you practice was handed down to you by the catholic church.
Truth is a constant - it doesn't change.
The theory of "the light getting brighter" is just a sick way for your CULT to wave away their FALSE Prophecies.

Thanks

tctrills:

So the disciples spread falsehood and that permits you to spread falsehood. Those that make sense to you?
If all organizations give this excuse,then Christianity is lost.
Not only did you teach your members that nonsense, you also made them teach it to the rest of the world.
If you notice I have not criticized your organization for their false prophecies. They are not the only ones guilty of peddling falsehood. But when you defend falsehood it shows something is very wrong.

That's why i told you that FALSE PROPHECIES differs from WRONG EXPECTATIONS.

Jehovah's Witnesses had wrong expectations. YES!
But false prophecies. NO!

If the first century Jewish disciples expected that apostle John will not die before God's Kingdom comes it simply means they were EXPECTING God's Kingdom to come within the life span of apostle John: WRONG EXPECTATIONS

But since God's Kingdom will still come that doesn't make them false prophets because it was the timing they missed not the message!

AkinwaleJJ:

Did you know!
Occasionally, we have adjusted some of our beliefs. Why? Just as the rising sun reveals details of a landscape gradually, God grants an understanding of his Word progressively. (Read Proverbs 4:18.) So although the Bible does not change, we adjust our beliefs as our understanding of the Bible improves.
If they know better than Jehovah's Witnesses let them practice what Jesus established than JWs:
Have the same doctrine as a group! John 17:22
Love their neighbours! Mark 12:31
Have love among themselves! John 13:34-35
Make evangelizing primary assignment! Matthew 28:19-30; Act 1:8
Remain Neutral in Politics and Racism! John 17:14-16
None participation in military services! Matthew 26:52
No protesting against authorities! Matthew 5:41
Avoid noise pollution! Matthew 12:19
Stick closer only to those having the same line of thought! Matthew 12:46-50
All the above are Jesus' own words and only Jehovah's Witnesses are known globally today with these things! Matthew 5:14-16

No mind am jàre. Person wey no believe say Jesus exist. Or believe in the Bible.

MaxInDHouse:


That's why i told you that FALSE PROPHECIES differs from WRONG EXPECTATIONS.

Jehovah's Witnesses had wrong expectations. YES!
But false prophecies. NO!

If the first century Jewish disciples expected that apostle John will not die before God's Kingdom comes it simply means they were EXPECTING God's Kingdom to come within the life span of apostle John: WRONG EXPECTATIONS

But since God's Kingdom will still come that doesn't make them false prophets because it was the timing they missed not the message!

No the JW did not have a false expectation. They invented these false teaching

tctrills:

Preaching falsehood and having a wrong expectation has 2 different meanings. Let me help you with the dictionary.

Falsehood
the state of being untrue.
"the truth or falsehood of the many legends which surround her"
a lie.
Wrong expectation
Could be a miscalculation.
False hope

Ọ̀gbẹ́ni since you've admitted that Jesus' first century Jewish disciples also had wrong expectations just like JWs that case is closed.

I wasn't born a JW so don't think i was with the organization when they had wrong expectation just as i accepted Christianity based on what the first century Jewish disciples practiced (despite their wrong expectations) i found JWs exactly the same line of thought with the first century Jewish disciples of Christ still with their own wrong expectations too.
So if you're now calling JWs false prophets due to wrong expectations then you have nothing to say in defense of Christianity because the pioneers of this religion also had wrong expectations back then!

tctrills:

No the JW did not have a false expectation. They invented these false teaching

Now you're lying!

Everything they taught is correct that's why it's yielding positive results globally with the exception of their wrong expectation!

MaxInDHouse:


Now you're lying!

Everything they taught is correct that's why it's yielding positive results globally with the exception of their wrong expectation!

No it's only producing wrong results. The kingdom did not come when they said it would.
That's clearly not the results we want

MaxInDHouse:


Now you're lying!

Everything they taught is correct that's why it's yielding positive results globally with the exception of their wrong expectation!

A false prophecy does not give result.

tctrills:

No it's only producing wrong results. The kingdom did not come when they said it would.
That's clearly not the results we want

Good!
I love that statement "not the result you and your cohorts want"

But as for individuals like me "we are hoping to see a global family of peace loving worshipers as promised in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 repeated at Micah 4:1-3
That's the FRUIT {Matthew 7:16-18} expected of imperfect humans who are PRACTICING pure worship.

So any blunder they committed we know it's due to the fact that they're imperfect humans they can't perform better than their pioneers in the first century who are also imperfect!

tctrills:

A false prophecy does not give result.

They've gathered people in millions, they have use their teachings to resolve all their racial disparities, they have diverted their resources into production of food and information materials, they have erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons from the hearts of millions and they have vowed never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

In fact if the world was full of Jehovah's Witnesses we won't be talking about wars or famine or murders anymore!

MaxInDHouse:


They've gathered people in millions, they have use their teachings to resolve all their racial disparities, they have diverted their resources into production of food and information materials, they have erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons from the hearts of millions and they have vowed never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

In fact if the world was full of Jehovah's Witnesses we won't be talking about wars or famine or murders anymore!

Stop diverting, many churches have millions of members.
If we mention the top 10 churches in production of food and in charity, JW does not come close.
Ordinary Christ embassy of yesterday share more information through their tv channels and publication.
Still all that don't make up for false prophecies.

MaxInDHouse:


Good!
I love that statement "not the result you and your cohorts want"

But as for individuals like me "we are hoping to see a global family of peace loving worshipers as promised in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 repeated at Micah 4:1-3
That's the FRUIT {Matthew 7:16-18} expected of imperfect humans who are PRACTICING pure worship.

So any blunder they committed we know it's due to the fact that they're imperfect humans they can't perform better than their pioneers in the first century who are also imperfect!

I actually respect the JW for their little contributions in improving society but compared to many other churches, they are quite down in the ladder.
So be humble and learn from others.

tctrills:

Stop diverting, many churches have millions of members.
If we mention the top 10 churches in production of food and in charity, JW does not come close.
Ordinary Christ embassy of yesterday share more information through their tv channels and publication.
Still all that don't make up for false prophecies.

Put all of them in line for Isaiah 2:2-4 & Micah 4:1-3 if they meet the expected results and as for your FALSE PROPHECIES accusations that has been cleared wrong expectations differ from false prophecies!

tctrills:


I actually respect the JW for their little contributions in improving society but compared to many other churches, they are quite down in the ladder.
So be humble and learn from others.

OK Sir i will learn how to kill my neighbours and fellow believers when politics and racism calls!

tctrills:

You are wrong, we have only had mad rulers. Its time for some sanity in Nigeria.

MaxInDHouse:


Put all of them in line for Isaiah 2:2-4 & Micah 4:1-3 if they meet the expected results and as for your FALSE PROPHECIES accusations that has been cleared wrong expectations differ from false prophecies!

You mind am, we're talking about the true religion, he's talking about Church with food and charity. Same Christ embassy that their oga used Almighty formula to calculate the second coming of Jesus Christ. We don't even wish to be counted among the top hundred of such groups.
The top tens that do not preach God's kingdom, does not make God's name known, give support to human government and politics and they show off. The Church he mentioned, people don't like it that much again from this side. They are too 'expensive', even if you know get money for offering, you fit drop phone or wristwatch and if a female goes in there, they will pair a male brother with her to make sure she keeps coming. We're talking about the one that whether poor or rich, will draw you close to God. Besides, not a national or ethnic church, they are found worldwide

Aemmyjah:


You mind am, we're talking about the true religion, he's talking about Church with food and charity. Same Christ embassy that their oga used Almighty formula to calculate the second coming of Jesus Christ. We don't even wish to be counted among the top hundred of such groups.
The top tens that do not preach God's kingdom, does not make God's name known, give support to human government and politics and they show off. The Church he mentioned, people don't like it that much again from this side. They are too 'expensive', even if you know get money for offering, you fit drop phone or wristwatch and if a female goes in there, they will pair a male brother with her to make sure she keeps coming. We're talking about the one that whether poor or rich, will draw you close to God. Besides, not a national or ethnic church, they are found worldwide

My brother i've known the atheist for long he's been struggling with the INJECTION i gave him several months ago he's so pained that he promised not to quote me again but now he's so pained that he couldn't keep his own words again!

Aemmyjah:


You mind am, we're talking about the true religion,

Which True religion? The crap you are in? You are in a Satanic Cult! A Freemason Cult disguised as a Christian Religion can never be the True religion. A Cult that punishes Child Sexual Abuse victims for speaking out to the authorities can never be the True religion. A Freemason Cult that gets its doctrines from Demons by using the Occult can never be the True religion. A Freemason Cult that slyly prevents its members from the Road to Life can never be the True religion. A Cult that punishes people for leaving and seizing their families can never be the True religion. ACult that never tolerates Criticism, questioning or free speech amongst its members can never be the True religion. A Cult that controls every aspect of its members life and creates Man made rules and doctrines can never be the True religion. A Cult that has a history of many False prophecies condemned by Almighty God and Jesus can never be the True religion. A Cult that worships Jehovah aka Lucifer can never be the True religion. A religion that totally misinterprets, adds and removes to the Bible can never be the True religion. A Cult that keeps experiencing great loss of members to the extent that So many Kingdom halls, Bethel branches and Assembly halls around the world are being sold showing that many JWs have ran away can never be the True religion.

MaxInDHouse:


Put all of them in line for Isaiah 2:2-4 & Micah 4:1-3 if they meet the expected results and as for your FALSE PROPHECIES accusations that has been cleared wrong expectations differ from false prophecies!

They all do. You do not understand those verses.
Other churches are doing as well or even better than you think. But it's not a competition. Other churches have no reason to complete with you. And if you could give false prophecies about when the kingdom is coming, why should we believe you interpretation of the bible.

MaxInDHouse:


OK Sir i will learn how to kill my neighbours and fellow believers when politics and racism calls!

Maybe you should even blame God that led and commanded many wars.

tctrills:

They all do. You do not understand those verses.

They all do!

So who are those fighting and killing one another in Russian and Ukraine?

Oh i get it, Muslims and Buddhist!

tctrills:

Maybe you should even blame God that led and commanded many wars.

OK they were all calling on the same God, God was leading one part of His worshipers against another, shey?

Deluded churchgoer!

MaxInDHouse:


OK they were all calling on the same God, God was leading one part of His worshipers against another, shey?

Deluded churchgoer!

The confusion is in your doctrine. Did God not lead Israel in war? Please read your bible.

MaxInDHouse:


They all do!

So who are those fighting and killing one another in Russian and Ukraine?

Oh i get it, Muslims and Buddhist!

Even in heaven, there has always been war. Read your bible. Fighting in war is not against the word of God.

MaxInDHouse:


They all do!

So who are those fighting and killing one another in Russian and Ukraine?

Oh i get it, Muslims and Buddhist!

But you are not peaceful people now. Watchtower ordered you all to fight EXJWs. You may not be in combat but you are harboring hatred for people who criticise Watchtower and your beliefs. You JWs show Hatred. As a result of this hatred and Isolation, there are high rates of suicides and some murders happening. How have you shown to be different from those who engage in War?

Why didn't you blame Almighty God for allowing the Israelites to engage in War with their enemies? You are now using War as a criteria for True religion. Since God helped the Israelites to win Wars, are you trying to say that God was propagating False Religion?

MaxInDHouse:


OK they were all calling on the same God, God was leading one part of His worshipers against another, shey?

Deluded churchgoer!

Right from heaven, the Good has always fought to overcome the evil.
The only reason you are not a slave in a Nazi camp is that others fought to give you the freedoms to preach your doctrine and to spread false prophecies

tctrills:

Even in heaven, there has always been war. Read your bible. Fighting in war is not against the word of God.

Thank you. There was War in heaven. Oya, Mad MaxInDHouse, go and tell everybody in heaven that they are part of False religion.

Courz:


Thank you. There was War in heaven. Oya, Mad MaxInDHouse, go and tell everybody in heaven that they are part of False religion.

MaxInDHouse is trying to divert us from JW false prophecies. Let him open a thread on war rather that act smart.