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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 6:50pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
raumdeuter: We have seen state government run businesses and it works. Government can actually do it, if they want 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 6:52pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
Android17:Did they factor d calculated daily theft of crudes,money stolen by animals.... All these are just agenda to exonerate d so-called hardened general who swore to be brutal... How much has he borrowed for infrastructure?what stop him in building refinery to his name from the borrowed bucks The subsidy is a scam and Bubu has come to realised how much could be moved in a second......reason he became d minister of pet 3 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 6:52pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
izzou:I accepted that Buhari himself failed but you are asking why the tree was not planted in his administration and I am showing you why the tree was better planted "20 years ago". Nigerians protested subsidy removal under Jonathan. My guess is it would have been better accepted under an OBj administration. If you want to give a child injection knowing it will hurt them, you have to be a nurse they trust. 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 6:56pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
Android17: I am not talking about the past. I wasn't either. Na una carry GEJ and Buhari come here. My point initially is that it needs to go. We can't pretend like we can pay it anymore. That's my own reality. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 6:59pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
Segedinho:If I reply this comprehensively it will read like I am defending Buhari. Like I said before and do not feel the need to regurgitate; building refineries is not the job of the government. It should be the job of the private sector. 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:59pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
izzou: Please mention the businesses state governments run that are actually profitable . |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 7:00pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
izzou:I agree with your underlying point my guy. I am just showing you how complicated it is in the contraption called Nigeria. 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 7:02pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
izzou: I think he agrees with you. He's just saying why it's going to be very difficult to actually remove it. Hence the Jonathan and Buhari examples. 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 7:04pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
izzou: This is what happened. Oil subsidy ballooned. The govt is the party paying for the subsidy. Rather than investigate how the subsidy had suddenly gotten so high, and punish those involved, GEJ took the lazy way out and decided to scrap it. Essentially everyone who stole subsidy money would have gotten away with it. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 7:15pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
One of the requirements that you had to meet before you could import petrol is you had to have 500 filling stations across the country. And this was taken very seriously at the time. People keep trying to pin subsidy fraud on major marketers. Do you know what it is to operate and maintain 500 stations? Today most marketers have dropped several sites. Imagine you are a marketer who has built and is operating and maintaining 500 stations and then one yahoo with 500 stations on paper(completely easy to confirm as bs) gets a licence to bring in product, does not bring in product, but forges documents and gets paid. A olodo investigator would have been able to finger the fraudulent companies who had a subsidy increase by over 300%. That is why people like Buhari were saying subsidy is a fraud. Because there was way too much obvious clear and present fraud, and a govt without the stones 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 7:20pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
BlueRayDick: State governments run secondary and even Universities They run Waste Management boards They run Radio and TV stations They run Vehicle licencing They run their own hospitals too. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 7:22pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
Android17: And what is even vexing me os how the supposed potentials are just avoiding that talk Its as if everybody is pretending like its not a big deal |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 7:22pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
izzou: You think they are well run? Compare all these side by side with anyone thats privately run and you will see the difference That was how we thought NITEL was working until private carriers like MTN and Econet came |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 7:23pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
Nepa just brought light. They are even trying small now. I had actually put off the gen to reduce petrol use , but someone put it back on. Petrol is the energy most homes and businessrs run on in Nigeria. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 7:23pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
izzou: All of them are saying they will remove subsidy, but in reality I doubt they will. Buhari also promised to remove it, Same with Jonathan. Any govt that does will face a massive uprising that might topple it So they just kick the can down the road and hope someone in the future will carry the mess Its the difference bwteeen what is right to do and what is realistic given our scenario |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TrebleChamp(m): 7:23pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 7:24pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
Southern candidates need to caution Wike, to be honest https://www.nairaland.com/7426228/pdp-loyalist-rivers-state-forced |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 7:25pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
raumdeuter: I am just saying its possible. Yes, it can be run better, but the government can too |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 7:26pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
raumdeuter: I doubt if that mess can last for the next 8 years. Na the problem be that |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 7:26pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
GloriousGbola: If this petrol now cost you 700 per liter, How will you a upper middle class chairman cope never mind the millions that earn less than 50K a month |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 7:27pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
izzou: This is a Nigerian story as old as the hills. They should have cautioned wike on this from the very beginning of his tenure. But then he was wicked wike serving it hot and wotowoto to the hated opposition. Wike has done all this and more. No be apc guys getting beheaded at one time? Now it is established as how to deal with your opponent, so here we are 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 7:30pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
GloriousGbola: I'm not even talking about what he's serving. Its the perception for me. Very soon, it would be interpreted as the South candidates against Atiku. Wike would indirectly be pushing Atiku to get more Northern votes, with this nonsense he's doing 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 7:31pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
izzou: This happens in most states. I have seen video of PDP members taken to shrine to swear loyalty to Fayose and they were saying things like "Ti mo ba dale Oshoko ki gbogbo molebi mi ku" If I betray Oshoko(Fayose) all my family should die a violent death We saw TA Orji and Ngige butt naked at Okija shrine Na Lagos politics be playplay, some other places its literally a game of death |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 7:34pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
raumdeuter: I understand when its between two different parties or a battle for loyalty But this is the same party, with one person telling people not to vote his party's candidate because he's a Northerner Just yesterday, Ortom apologized because of hos Fulani statement. Na Wike go be spoiler for both BAT and Obi. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 7:36pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
izzou:Wike is an unhinged person and no one can reason with him E get why Atiku and Tinubu have lasted in politics for long, Its because they are relatable to others and they are not vindictive. Can people in Rivers be insulting Wike the way everyone insults Tinubu sometimes to his face |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Skimpledawg(m): 7:37pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
GloriousGbola:Awesome post. Nice one chief. 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 7:38pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
raumdeuter: Very unhinged, walahi. If you don't want to support your party, why not do it low key? This guy go do great disservice to Southern candidates. No wonder Atiku no even talk plenty again. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by seankafor(m): 7:39pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
izzou:but I like what he is doing It's entertaining to us |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TrebleChamp(m): 7:41pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
izzou:A country without steady power supply and good public transport system shouldn't be talking of subsidy removal.... |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 7:43pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
izzou: One day on my way to work I saw a poster of Atiku along East West Road. On my way back in the evening, it was torn already. It was obviously pasted at night and torn in broad day light. You can be lynched or killed for openly campaigning for Atiku. I'm starting to even think radio stations have been warned not to air any jingle for Atiku. Atiku will be lucky to get 20% of votes in Rivers State if this rift continues. The level of allegiance to Wike's cause is crazy. As for pushing Nothern votes towards Atiku, I don't see it happening since Wike is not directly attacking Atiku. Most of his attacks have been directed towards Ayu who does not really command any following in the North. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 7:43pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
raumdeuter: can you imagine what would happen if it was wike they were making all this drugnubu syory about? someone would have arrested using police/dss , disappeared/ dropped in a hole for several months, if not maimed and killed |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 7:44pm On Nov 10, 2022 |
izzou: The thing is that when things are far away from us we can form Van Damme. How many Fulani dey Rivers? Ortom and Benue people have Fulanis in their midst well some in Ortom cabinet and Benue PDP might even be Fulanis Na people ginger Wike till he became this. After June 2023 I hope he has a visa to some countries sha cos people wey go waylay am plenty |
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