raumdeuter:


I've tried it before when I was in NYSC because those guys didn't understand any English.

It was even harder than anyone could think

How do you explain acid and base in local dialect

Most of the things we learn in physics are even abstract and you have to use your imagination which is already a challenge

And what is even the point of trying to explain in Yoruba when exam will still be set in English?

Will you be translating JAMB and WAEC questions to Yoruba as well?

A001:

They retain their names in English since the roots of most of those terms are Greek and Latin anyway.

Physics itself is from ancient Greek. Most terms in Physics are borrowed words.

But I describe the concepts in Yoruba.

I will like you to use 2 Yoruba sentence to teach any concept in Physics and would like to see how it will go

Also when the exams will be in English so what have you achieved?

E.g Force = mass X acceleration
Force = Agbara mass = iwon acceleration = igbera?
As a Physics student I even had problems conceptualizing the difference between speed and velocity or mass vs weight scalar vs vector

Goodluck explaining that in Yoruba

nihilistjnr:


And what is even the point of trying to explain in Yoruba when exam will still be set in English?

Will you be translating JAMB and WAEC questions to Yoruba as well?

I literally posted the same thing at the same time

A001:

No. It's strictly for Yorubas. When I was in school and during NYSC, most of the students I taught on a private basis are Yoruba.

If you are in Yorubaland as a student and struggle with understanding those level of English needed to understand Sciences

I think spending on a Physics tutor shouldn't be the priority rather spend the money on someone to teach English and get them to understand English

As at this time you cannot avoid English in your career in Nigeria

Even to study Yoruba in University you have to pass English in Promotion exam, Waec and Jamb

raumdeuter:


I now understand why people will say we are the same person cos I literally posted the same thing at the same time

It's not people.

It's one person.

Please don't feed him.

A001:

Differentiation, integration all deal with the rate of change of a quantity with respect to time.

This can be simply explained in Yoruba.

The terms will retain their name in Yoruba as well. But the concept can be taught in Yoruba successfully with the aid of YouTube videos.

YouTube videos in English or Yoruba?

I share the belief that science subjects can be taught in our languages though it required hardwork and commiting resources toward the project. Recently some Science textbooks were translated into Hausa, Lukgaf teaches maths in Yoruba on YouTube.

nihilistjnr:


It's not people.

It's one person.

Please don't feed him.

raumdeuter:


I will like you to use 2 Yoruba sentence to teach any concept in Physics and would like to see how it will go

Also when the exams will be in English so what have you achieved?

E.g Force = mass X acceleration
Force = Agbara mass = iwon acceleration = igbera?
As a Physics student I even had problems conceptualizing the difference between speed and velocity or mass vs weight scalar vs vector

Gravitational field is gravitational field in Yoruba as well. The formulas don't change too.

For instance, if I want teach a student the topic Gravitational Field, my introduction would be the proverb, "lala to roke, ille lo n bo". Meaning "what's thrown up always comes down".

And I'd demonstrate that by throwing an object up.

If I want to teach a topic like Density, I'd do simple demo with a small ball (boolu) and spoon (sibi). Law of flotation can be easily taught in Yoruba with a similar demo using a small boat (oko oju omi) and a cup of water (Ife omi).

The names of the concepts and principles don't change and the formulas too, but their explanation is given in Yoruba using simple demos.

With a mirror (digi) and a lamp (atupa oyinbo), I can easily teach optics.

Teaching in Yoruba is to aid understanding, stimulate students' interest in learning and practical.

nihilistjnr:


YouTube videos in English or Yoruba?

They're in English. I only need the demos. Then, there are apps as well that simulate Physics practicals that I used to utilize as teaching aids.

nihilistjnr:


It's not people.

It's one person.

Please don't feed him.

Sure it's a person though?
It may be a they/them in violent denial of its nature

Amoto94:
I share the belief that science subjects can be taught in our languages though it required hardwork and commiting resources toward the project. Recently some Science textbooks were translated into Hausa, Lukgaf teaches maths in Yoruba on YouTube.

Yeah but to what point though.

I know a guy that localised an entire Linux build to Yoruba.

Chances are that if you are a Nigerian using Linux, then English is nor your problem

So in this case, my guy was creating a solution in search of a problem that didn't exist.

The current political structure of Nigeria necessitates a common lingua franca, negating the need ro teach maths in Yoruba or Efik...

At least at this point.

If exams will be set in English, then students should be instructed in English.

However I see and agree with yours and A001 broader point about a need for continued promotion of our indigenous culture. Where I disagree with you is in how we do it - for me rhe obvious vehicle for this is humanities and the arts.

I just don't see the point of instructing STEM subjects in Yoruba or Ibibio

A001:

They retain their names in English since the roots of most of those terms are Greek and Latin anyway.

Physics itself is from ancient Greek. Most terms in Physics are borrowed words.

But I describe the concepts in Yoruba.

Just read through some comments. I must praise you for taking such a bold stand. We all know the Chinese and Japanese teach science in their language. For any country to move away from technological backwardness they must have their own way of expressing scientific concepts.

The challenge here is our multilingualism but if we are determined we can do it at least to an extent.

I recommend teaching junior science in local languages.

Itsrm:


Stick to spreading the gospel of Otem.

The way this thing dey pain you, try get rid of any rope around you before you tie am for ceiling and decide to end it all

Mass is mass; force is force; energy is energy.

But the main thing is, how can the student relate with these terms in their everyday life?

They're not abstract because the laws of Physics govern many phenomena and processes in nature.

The main thing is presenting these things to the student in such a way that they can relate with them and not see them as abstract.

A simple demo explained in Yoruba will illustrate all these terms to students.

Physics teachers should have a teaching kit that contains items like magnet, ball, ruler, capacitor, resistor, IC, a stop watch, and the likes for carrying out demos for students in their mother tongue using everyday examples they can relate with, not merely giving them notes.



Science is best learnt via practicals.

A001:

Gravitational field is gravitational field in Yoruba as well. The formulas don't change too.

For instance, if I want teach a student the topic Gravitational Field, my introduction would be the proverb, "lala to roke, ille lo n bo". Meaning "what's thrown up always comes down".

And I'd demonstrate that by throwing an object up.

If I want to teach a topic like Density, I'd do simple demo with a small ball (boolu) and spoon (sibi). Law of flotation can be easily taught in Yoruba with a similar demo using a small boat (oko oju omi) and a cup of water (Ife omi).

The names of the concepts and principles don't change and the formulas too, but their explanation is given in Yoruba using simple demos.

With a mirror (digi) and a lamp (atupa oyinbo), I can easily teach optics.

Teaching in Yoruba is to aid understanding, stimulate students' interest in learning and practical.

So what's the benefit of this if the words remain in English?

Exam questions require the students to explain these concepts in English, so do you not think there's a risk that you may be inhibiting your student's ability to fulfill their examiner's requirements?

Aftetall, even if they understand the concepts well enough in Yoruba, if they can't communicate these concepts in English, they will still fail the exam.

nihilistjnr:


Yeah but to what point though.

I know a guy that localised an entire Linux build to Yoruba.

Chances are that if you are a Nigerian using Linux, then English is nor your problem

So in this case, my guy was creating a solution in search of a problem that didn't exist.

The current political structure of Nigeria necessitates a common lingua franca, negating the need ro teach maths in Yoruba or Efik...

At least at this point.

If exams will be set in English, then students should be instructed in English.

However I see and agree with yours and A001 broader point about a need to continued promotion of our indigenous culture. Where I disagree with you is in how we do it - for me rhe obvious vehicle for this is humanities and the arts.

I just don't see the point of instructing STEM subjects in Yoruba or Ibibio

There is a movement that keeps advocating teaching in Yoruba. It goes right back to tai solarin who really believed in it. There is an excerpt from one of his Books where a kid was having trouble comprehending angles and then the teacher explained in Yoruba and it worked. I have also brushed against this with classmates even once in a car on a journey with a lecturer. I shut that down very quickly by pointing out that we don't have written language to start with, we are using English characters to attempt to represent our language.

The only way I can see us adopting yoruba as a lingua franca is if we actually have a diecrete and seperate yoruba nation. Otherwise everyone does the same and education suddenly becomes a lot harder.

GloriousGbola:


There is a movement that keeps advocating teaching in Yoruba. It goes right back to tai solarin who really believed in it. There is an excerpt from one of his Books where a kid was having trouble comprehending angles and then the teacher explained in Yoruba and it worked. I have also brushed against this with classmates even once in a car on a journey with a lecturer. I shut that down very quickly by pointing out that we don't have written language to start with, we are using English characters to attempt to represent our language.

The only way I can see us adopting yoruba as a lingua franca is if we actually have a diecrete and seperate yoruba nation. Otherwise everyone does the same and education suddenly becomes a lot harder.

EXACTLY.

You can achieve the promotion of indigenous culture through.....culture.
Music, art, festivals, food, religion, taught languages at schools, etc

But the needs of a diverse Nation like Nigeria with almost 300 different languages, means that its simply impractical to instruct STEM in Yoruba, and In my opinion may even be detrimental to student progress.

A001:
Mass is mass; force is force; energy is energy.

But the main thing is, how can the student relate with these terms in their everyday life?

They're not abstract because the laws of Physics govern many phenomena and processes in nature.

The main thing is presenting these things to the student in such a way that they can relate with them and not see them as abstract.

A simple demo explained in Yoruba will illustrate all these terms to students.

Physics teachers should have a teaching kit that contains items like magnet, ball, ruler, capacitor, resistor, IC, a stop watch, and the likes for carrying out demos for students in their mother tongue using everyday examples they can relate with, not merely giving them notes.



Science is best learnt via practicals.

There are no actual Yoruba words for these concepts

Grafiti
Relatifiti
Iho dudu
Sufasony

Or my fave
Shake e shake e shake e bota tan e tan e tan titi daro ola ati tan
Check it check it check out on and on and on until the break dawn its on

nihilistjnr:


Yeah but to what point though.

I know a guy that localised an entire Linux build to Yoruba.

Chances are that if you are a Nigerian using Linux, then English is nor your problem

So in this case, my guy was creating a solution in search of a problem that didn't exist.

The current political structure of Nigeria necessitates a common lingua franca, negating the need ro teach maths in Yoruba or Efik...

At least at this point.

If exams will be set in English, then students should be instructed in English.

However I see and agree with yours and A001 broader point about a need for continued promotion of our indigenous culture. Where I disagree with you is in how we do it - for me rhe obvious vehicle for this is humanities and the arts.

I just don't see the point of instructing STEM subjects in Yoruba or Ibibio

The average Nigerian student sees the concepts and principles in Physics as abstract, complex things.

But as you're typing on your phone, you're applying many principles of Physics. The student siting down in a Physics class applies the concept of moment, forces at equilibrium, electrostatics, magnetostatics.

But they don't know these things because the teachers teach them using the wrong approach.

To aid understanding, teachers need to teach Physics in mother tongue using everyday examples the students see and know.

Since many schools don't have well-equipped labs, teachers needs to teach with demos.

YouTube videos and apps are there to help. These can help teachers create learning scenarios in Yoruba.

German, French, Chinese, Korea, Japanese scientists are preforming wonders in Physics because it was taught to them in their mother tongue.

Cramming terms in Physics in English, which is what most students do, isn't learning. They're only reading to pass exams.

A001:

Gravitational field is gravitational field in Yoruba as well. The formulas don't change too.

For instance, if I want teach a student the topic Gravitational Field, my introduction would be the proverb, "lala to roke, ille lo n bo". Meaning "what's thrown up always comes down".

And I'd demonstrate that by throwing an object up.

If I want to teach a topic like Density, I'd do simple demo with a small ball (boolu) and spoon (sibi). Law of flotation can be easily taught in Yoruba with a similar demo using a small boat (oko oju omi) and a cup of water (Ife omi).

The names of the concepts and principles don't change and the formulas too, but their explanation is given in Yoruba using simple demos.

With a mirror (digi) and a lamp (atupa oyinbo), I can easily teach optics.

Teaching in Yoruba is to aid understanding, stimulate students' interest in learning and practical.

I am sure if you go to the interior outside Lagos many teaching even of English language as a subject mix local language into it.

Most teachers don't use pure English to teach and this has been the practice for a long time

Then these minor changes you made to English words is it because the students won't understand what ball mirrors or lamp mean when spoken in English

GloriousGbola:


There are no actual Yoruba words for these concepts

Grafiti
Relatifiti

Or my fave
Shake e shake e shake e bota tan e tan e tan titi daro ola ati tan
Check it check it check out on and on and on until the break dawn its on

Lols. No need to translate them to Yoruba. That'll be counterproductive.

raumdeuter:


I am sure if you go to the interior outside Lagos many teaching even of English language as a subject mix local language into it.

Most teachers don't use pure English to teach and this has been the practice for a long time

Yes, in many subjects. But not in science subjects. I wasn't taught any science subject in Yoruba and did la cram la pour to pass exams even up to university level.

That's learning using the wrong approach.

GloriousGbola:


There are no actual Yoruba words for these concepts

Grafiti
Relatifiti
Iho dudu
Sufasony

Or my fave
Shake e shake e shake e bota tan e tan e tan titi daro ola ati tan
Check it check it check out on and on and on until the break dawn its on

Wtf?

GloriousGbola:


There are no actual Yoruba words for these concepts

Grafiti
Relatifiti
Iho dudu
Sufasony

Or my fave
Shake e shake e shake e bota tan e tan e tan titi daro ola ati tan
Check it check it check out on and on and on until the break dawn its on

afrodoc2:



Wtf?

For some weird reason from long ago, I translated (if you can call it that) the chorus to naughty by nature's its on.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4irRTSNyPSE

A001:

Yes, in many subjects. But not in science subjects. I wasn't taught any science subject in Yoruba and did la cram la pour to pass exams even up to university level.

That's learning using the wrong approach.

If you understand a subject very well you can explain in any language

The problem might be with the teacher who doesn't understand what he is teaching. And just copy and paste for the student. I have shared story of a corner colleague who writes lesson notes for Maths and just copy and paste in the board
When I teach Maths I don't even need a lesson note

There was a topic in light Physics and the teacher was explaining to us how light rays move differently when they hit a mirror and he simply used an example that when you are running on a plain field you will run straight but the moment you hit the bush you will have to slow down. He described the running in a funny Ekiti term that got us laughing and over 25yrs later I still remember that explanation

Tinubu said he doesn't read Social media so you are free to insult him there

https://www.nairaland.com/7440635/dont-read-social-media-anymore

raumdeuter:


If you understand a subject very well you can explain in any language

The problem might be with the teacher who doesn't understand what he is teaching. And just copy and paste for the student. I have shared story of a corner colleague who writes lesson notes for Maths and just copy and paste in the board
When I teach Maths I don't even need a lesson note

There was a topic in light Physics and the teacher was explaining to us how light rays move differently when they hit a mirror and he simply used an example that when you are running on a plain field you will run straight but the moment you hit the bush you will have to slow down. He described the running in a funny Ekiti term that got us laughing and over 25yrs later I still remember that explanation

The rot is very deep in the education sector. Many brilliant people don't like taking up the teaching profession because of the low pay.

I think that's where the problem is. Most of my brilliant friends don japa, even me sef dey prepare to follow suit.

The brain drain is appalling.

And the profession is left for teachers, most of whom don't really understand the subject. Hence, most students detest Physics and Math.

When I was in school, only very few lecturers really understood Physics, and the ones trained abroad just had a special mode of teaching that would make you wonder why their style is so different and more advanced than those trained in Nigeria.

nihilistjnr:


Yeah but to what point though.

I know a guy that localised an entire Linux build to Yoruba.

Chances are that if you are a Nigerian using Linux, then English is nor your problem

So in this case, my guy was creating a solution in search of a problem that didn't exist.

The current political structure of Nigeria necessitates a common lingua franca, negating the need ro teach maths in Yoruba or Efik...

At least at this point.

If exams will be set in English, then students should be instructed in English.

However I see and agree with yours and A001 broader point about a need for continued promotion of our indigenous culture. Where I disagree with you is in how we do it - for me rhe obvious vehicle for this is humanities and the arts.

I just don't see the point of instructing STEM subjects in Yoruba or Ibibio

I think the political reality is what's affecting the push for use of indigenous languages for teaching STEM subjects, we should adopt the Swiss model of using regional language to teach students but students should learn English as a language in case he wants to seek employment outside his region

GloriousGbola:


There are no actual Yoruba words for these concepts

Grafiti
Relatifiti
Iho dudu
Sufasony

Or my fave
Shake e shake e shake e bota tan e tan e tan titi daro ola ati tan
Check it check it check out on and on and on until the break dawn its on

I remember in SS1 when they tried to teach us

Alpha beta minus 2 alpha beta..

Who remember that topic? I felt my life was going to end when I started seeing teachers leave x,y and started with Greek alphabet