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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 11:27am On Dec 12, 2022
Adiwana:


Stats don’t mean shiit. That’s why De Bruyne won MOTM for the game against Canada while being one of the worst players on the pitch. Always using Sofascore to rate football players instead of actually sitting down and watching football games. That’s why Ibime will come here and say Iniesta played as a CAM

I can’t watch Kante winning 90% of the ball for some kid in the next 10 yrs to hop on the internet and tell me Kante was not good by going to Wikipedia to pull some stupid statistics of the number of goals and assists he got in his career.

Stats will always always matter.

If you are an attacker, you must have goal contributions. That is your duty, and you have to show it.

Dancing Amapiano and Zanku won't change it.

Messi is good, and his stats are there to show it
Ronaldo is good, and his stats are there to show it.

So telling us that some are good because you watch them, yet their primary duty has poor records, has to be the new yahoo format for 2022.

Xavi who is behind Iniesta has more goal contributions than him, but you want to tell us Iniesta is better because you watched him baa?

Blasphemy should not only be attributed to religious statements, walahi

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 11:29am On Dec 12, 2022
donstan18:
Between Inesta and Xavi, none carried each other, none could function without each other, none played same style and both never impressed when played without each other.

Make Una dead this agenda!!

Stop playing nice.

Say it as it is.

Call him the FRAUD for which he is angry

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Aflix(m): 11:31am On Dec 12, 2022
TLona1:
If Messi doesn't win the World Cup, he'll be criticized heavily and won't get all these sympathy Ronaldo has been getting.

That's absolutely fine by me because he's the GOAT.
100 percent true. I’m surprised at the amount of ass licking Ronaldo’s getting now.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 11:31am On Dec 12, 2022
A40:
Iniesta is a great player on his own merit that you can prop him without disrespecting Xavi.

And then to bring up those seasons 05/06 and 14/15 seasons like Iniesta was even a top 5 contributor is just criminal

Iniesta is the underboss to Xavi. So me I don't even see the angle of comparison since they don't do the same work. I can even argue that Xavi is better at his primary job than Iniesta is at his but that's neither here nor there.

Just put some respeck on Xavi's name


Only to you.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TLona1: 11:32am On Dec 12, 2022
donstan18:

You enjoy him getting insulted, harassed and slandered?

After all what they said about Messi before he won his first international trophy at senior level, yes.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 11:32am On Dec 12, 2022
zeusis:

popizaino would really be happy seeing this grin grin


Sure.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 11:35am On Dec 12, 2022
izzou:


You can praise any player because of their attributes. There is nothing wrong with that.

Kante can be anybody's legend. But when you want to compare him to anybody, be sure to have proof, which most likely rest on his personal efforts (stats)

Iniesta is a good player. But the moment you put him next to Xavi, and say he is better, he becomes a Fraud; Scamdres Fraudniesta

Point of correction,Iniesta is not a good player but an excellent world class player. Now saying iniesta is not up to Xavi because of some silly stats should make you rate Fabregas and David Silva ahead of Xavi.......You know their stats are more impressive than that of Hernandez?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 11:37am On Dec 12, 2022
hensben:
Football is lawn tennis na so he won two euros and World Cup against roger Federer and was the best player in all the tournaments.


You know football is not lawn tennis but you have the temerity to tell us Messi was the one doing it in Barcelona grin


Abi na only Messi dey play for Barca?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Adiwana: 11:37am On Dec 12, 2022
izzou:


Stats will always always matter.

If you are an attacker, you must have goal contributions. That is your duty, and you have to show it.

Dancing Amapiano and Zanku won't change it.

Messi is good, and his stats are there to show it
Ronaldo is good, and his stats are there to show it.

So telling us that some are good because you watch them, yet their primary duty has poor records, has to be the new yahoo format for 2022.

Xavi who is behind Iniesta has more goal contributions than him, but you want to tell us Iniesta is better because you watched him baa?

Blasphemy should not only be attributed to religious statements, walahi

Stats will never show you that Lewandoski had a 2x balon d’or seasons and won 0. The next generation of football fans don’t care about that since anybody can pull out stats from fifa. Hell, I can tell you that’s he’s not one of the greatest strikers the game has ever seen based on that argument alone.

Messi and Ronaldo with all their balon d’ors have 0 world cups. Based on that, they’re not the GOATS. You’re not a GOAT in this game if you don’t win the ultimate price.

We can easily go down this road of stats and start pulling out stats of all the greats in the game
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 11:38am On Dec 12, 2022
popizaino:


Point of correction,Iniesta is not a good player but an excellent world class player. Now saying iniesta is not up to Xavi because of some silly stats should make you rate Fabregas and David Silva ahead of Xavi.......You know their stats are more impressive than that of Hernandez?

You can call Iniesta an excellent world class player. I have no problem with that.

But when you put him up with Xavi, please and please, kindly ensure you Xavi is rightful place.

Na beg i dey beg

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 11:38am On Dec 12, 2022
donstan18:

How many semis did Inesta player after Xavi left Barcelona?


How many UCL semifinals did Lampard played after Drogba left?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 11:41am On Dec 12, 2022
Adiwana:


Stats will never show you that Lewandoski had a 2x balon d’or seasons and won 0. The next generation of football fans don’t care about that since anybody can pull out stats from fifa. Hell, I can tell you that’s he’s not one of the greatest strikers the game has ever seen based on that argument alone.

Messi and Ronaldo with all their balon d’ors have 0 world cups. Based on that, they’re not the GOATS. You’re not a GOAT in this game if you don’t win the ultimate price.

We can easily go down this road of stats and start pulling out stats of all the greats in the game

You are calling trophies and awards, my brother. That is not what i am interested in.

Show us their individual stats. Lewandowski is a striker. Bring out his career stats as a striker. C'est fini.

Trophies are won by a team effort. Attributing it to one player sounds mischievous to me.

So if Argentina loses tomorrow, we will blame Messi abi? Knowing fully well that he played his part to bring them here.

Just bring the players individual stats.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 11:41am On Dec 12, 2022
izzou:


Stop playing nice.

Say it as it is.

Call him the FRAUD for which he is angry
Xavi was a nobody before Inesta.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 11:43am On Dec 12, 2022
donstan18:

Xavi was a nobody before Inesta.


To you? YESS SIRRRR

Iniesta don turn God wey dey uplift person
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 11:44am On Dec 12, 2022
popizaino:



How many UCL semifinals did Lampard played after Drogba left?
You’re the very worse person to even defend a player, all you do is set them up drags with useless points.

Take a break, learn argument and come back.

You’re not yet that guy. Lol.

Can’t even defend Inesta against Xavi without dragging Lampard in.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 11:45am On Dec 12, 2022
izzou:


To you? YESS SIRRRR

Iniesta don turn God wey dey uplift person
Both couldn’t function without each other.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 11:48am On Dec 12, 2022
popizaino:



You know football is not lawn tennis but you have the temerity to tell us Messi was the one doing it in Barcelona grin


Abi na only Messi dey play for Barca?
Messi’s influence on the team was too obvious with his productivity and I didn’t mention Messi won those trophies alone rather his individual output.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Adiwana: 11:53am On Dec 12, 2022
izzou:


You are calling trophies and awards, my brother. That is not what i am interested in.

Show us their individual stats. Lewandowski is a striker. Bring out his career stats as a striker. C'est fini.

Trophies are won by a team effort. Attributing it to one player sounds mischievous to me.

So if Argentina loses tomorrow, we will blame Messi abi? Knowing fully well that he played his part to bring them here.

Just bring the players individual stats.

Ronaldo has over 800 goals in his career but can’t even score 1 goal in a knockout game in a World Cup. For that reason all those goals he scored is absolutely meaningless since he can’t even attribute one in the most footballing event. How is Ronaldo a GOAT if he can’t even score not to talk about winning the World Cup trophy?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 11:56am On Dec 12, 2022
Sportsweb:
But check it out.. Xavi, Iniesta, Neymar and co couldn't win Balon D'or in Ronaldo and Messi era. Modric did it and it's massive

More like prime Ronaldo and Messi era

Not when they where above 30

Thank you
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 11:59am On Dec 12, 2022
Adiwana:


Ronaldo has over 800 goals in his career but can’t even score 1 goal in a knockout game in a World Cup. For that reason all those goals he scored is absolutely meaningless since he can’t even attribute one in the most footballing event. How is Ronaldo a GOAT if he can’t even score not to talk about winning the World Cup trophy?

You keep clutching on to cups. I don't know why

Ronaldo has over 800 career goals. That's enough to show you that he is good. Why do i need a knockout match to validate him?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 12:01pm On Dec 12, 2022
popizaino:



Yes Messi was also in Spain doing the things. I wonder why the same messi didn't do it in Argentina and why he didn't do it without iniesta to get pass inter Milan in 2010 UCL semifinals. Oh sorry he was waiting on another iniesta's Stamford bridge moments.



It is messi doing it but iniesta had on unbeaten record of 55games while messi doing it has 48games.


I just hope messi does it this time around without iniesta.

Attempting to place Iniesta beside Messi will make him look like an amateur plying his trade in some crude part of Ogbomosho.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ballzproblem2: 12:02pm On Dec 12, 2022
starting mount and Gallagher got to be the. worst thing ever

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 12:03pm On Dec 12, 2022
afrodoc2:





A40 said this




And this was your reply.





Which Under-16 and Under-17 World Cups did Iniesta win gold medal in?



U-19 and U-17.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 12:03pm On Dec 12, 2022
popizaino:



He was runner up in U-20.


Won Gold medal in U-16 and U17 respectively.
Gold medal in what level? At world level?

All I see here is he didn't win any World tournament like Xavi did at U20 which holds more weight than U17 or U16 regional titles
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 12:04pm On Dec 12, 2022
popizaino:




U-19 and U-17.
Wey him World title like his boss Xavi?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by taobany(m): 12:06pm On Dec 12, 2022
Ballzproblem2:
starting mount and Gallagher got to be the. worst thing ever


Guy tells us what you really want...
do you want Kova, Kante, or who.. its a friendly match for God's sake.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 12:09pm On Dec 12, 2022
izzou:


Stats will always always matter.

If you are an attacker, you must have goal contributions. That is your duty, and you have to show it.

Dancing Amapiano and Zanku won't change it.

Messi is good, and his stats are there to show it
Ronaldo is good, and his stats are there to show it.

So telling us that some are good because you watch them, yet their primary duty has poor records, has to be the new yahoo format for 2022.

Xavi who is behind Iniesta has more goal contributions than him, but you want to tell us Iniesta is better because you watched him baa?

Blasphemy should not only be attributed to religious statements, walahi


Stats matters and for all Kevin Debryune's goal and assist it will always take someone with less stats to either knock him out of UCL or world cup.


If stats really matters for midfielders that much, then KDB,Ozil,Fabregas, Lampard should all be greater than Xavi,Modric abi na only iniesta una stats dey demean ?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 12:09pm On Dec 12, 2022
popizaino:



You want to start getting ahead of yourself



Tell us what happened in 2010 UCL semifinals with Xavi without iniesta ? We know iniesta has been producing pedestrian contributions to Barcelona success ?
What are you on about? Iniesta never lost while playing with and without Xavi?

Tell me the season Iniesta carried Barcelona and was their single focal point on attack

I have burst your bubble on Iniesta's mythical success without Xavi showing you he was a passenger of the highest degree.

4 goals in 92 combined appearances nigga I can divide. That's 1 goal every 23 average and that's LAAAAME!!

Each of those seasons I can list 5 players more critical to Barca's success than Iniesta

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 12:10pm On Dec 12, 2022
izzou:


Stop playing nice.

Say it as it is.

Call him the FRAUD for which he is angry


You mean he is saying it nice by not calling Lampfraud?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ballzproblem2: 12:11pm On Dec 12, 2022
taobany:



Guy tells us what you really want...
do you want Kova, Kante, or who.. its a friendly match for God's sake.
no it's not,it league game
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 12:12pm On Dec 12, 2022
If Mctominay controls midfield better than Bruno Fernandes, scores more goals than him, and assist more than him from a deeper role, then, Mctominay is better than Bruno Fernandes.

But in reality, Bruno is better than Mctominay at his primary duty and therefore, better than Mctominay as a footballer.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 12:13pm On Dec 12, 2022
izzou:


You can call Iniesta an excellent world class player. I have no problem with that.

But when you put him up with Xavi, please and please, kindly ensure you Xavi is rightful place.

Na beg i dey beg


Go and beg them in spain,Barcelona,real madrid,la masia that put him ahead of xavi not me.

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