TheGoodJoe:

The Manager's job is to find the best available.

If Westerhof reasoned like this, he would have waited for A European club to sign Amokachi before inviting him to the team.

A coach who can not identify quality before the players break through in Europe is mediocre and a waste of time. We can't keep waiting for European clubs to build our team. That is a futile process.

charlesemeka85:
don’t bring westahof to this discussion. When westerhof took over super eagles then how many Nigerian players were in main stream european leagues?

This is 2022 not 1989

charlesemeka85:
don’t bring westahof to this discussion. When westerhof took over super eagles then how many Nigerian players were in main stream european leagues?

This is 2022 not 1989

charlesemeka85:
I doubt because if religion plays a role in their decisions countries like Senegal,Cameroon,Mali etc won’t be losing their most talented diaspora kids to France

Another big factor is having a working and competent FA where players entitlements is a priority with good infrastructures and coaching team

charlesemeka85:
don’t bring westahof to this discussion. When westerhof took over super eagles then how many Nigerian players were in main stream european leagues?

This is 2022 not 1989

TheGoodJoe:


So, who do you propose to play as a midfield conductor for our team. Someone who can control the midfield from deep with short tidy passes and efficient long balls.

Mujtahida:

Baba, this is unnecessary as in the attack on his family. Discussions can and should proceed with mutual respect. Abeg you. E joor

Blueelf, nothing justifies the attack on your family but do stop throwing snide comments at fabyom. Don't put yourself in the position where a particular moniker is your enemy.

We don't need all this toxicity. I no be peacemaker oo because I enjoy some rofo rofo fight once in a while but this between the two of you appears very personal. Make we fight as mutuals not as enemies.

AndSunGorilla:

Please o, me am learning o, did Liverpool have a midfield conductor when they won the EPL and UCL, I don't believe players like Henderson, Fabinho, Milner, wijnaldum are midfield conductors. Yes Thiago is but they haven't won anything since they signed thiago.

charlesemeka85:
help me ask them

TheGoodJoe:


The simple question is, who is the best available to conduct our midfield.

Who is the best available?

If it is Nwakali, get him into the team and stop playing games.

fabyom:
I gat you, my good brother! I don't have problems with anyone. I don't abuse nor curse anyone. But here you have a guy that continues to cry and wail on my mention. I don't get it. I believe we can agree to disagree without being rude. Rudeness to people is a sign of lack of home training. Simple.
This is more than a faceless forum. I met tbaba here, until his demise I didn't see him face to face but he sent gifts to my son here in the United States. Don't think cos this is a faceless forum you can mess with people anyhow. You don't know where you gonna meet. My2cent!

fabyom:
I gat you, my good brother! I don't have problems with anyone. I don't abuse nor curse anyone. But here you have a guy that continues to cry and wail on my mention. I don't get it. I believe we can agree to disagree without being rude. Rudeness to people is a sign of lack of home training. Simple.
This is more than a faceless forum. I met tbaba here, until his demise I didn't see him face to face but he sent gifts to my son here in the United States. Don't think cos this is a faceless forum you can mess with people anyhow. You don't know where you gonna meet. My2cent!

AndSunGorilla:

I think Major has a point though. If you look at Boufal's tweet after the victory over Spain, he clearly called it a victory for arabs and muslims. So I think Arab Muslims are a bit different from other muslims. In the western world, they really huddle together. Now in West Africa, while Senegal and Mali have a lot if Muslims, they are still a secular society and somehow have a sizable number of Christian's around them, but not with the Arabs. Also I will be honest with you, in the western nations, arab muslims are looked at suspiciously by the whites especially and of cos the arabs know.

charlesemeka85:
oga no team is too complete

A good team play to its strength. So many teams are doing marvelously well without your so called conductor abi driver

Cameroon that won Brazil the other day who was their midfield conductor abi trailer driver?

Mujtahida:

It's all good Sir.

TheGoodJoe:


So you don't know our midfield is suffering when it comes to controlling the middle and stringing quality passes.

When you think of how to solve that problem, let us know.

charlesemeka85:
oga am not proposing anyone. We have an iwobi in the team who in the same position hv been doing excellently well in the almighty epl

Like I said in one of my post above it’s jpes responsibility to pick his best midfield trio to make the team to work

He is blessed with the likes of iwobi,ndidi,Onyeka,onyedikachi,aribo etc so it’s his duty to figure out the 3 that’s fits better to how he wants the team to play

Ejaria and his likes won’t add anything to this current team so let’s lessen the hype and noise pls

Others countries dey look for decent players doing it in better leagues but here we re sticking on dead woods who re yet to perform for over 5-6 seasons in any major European league

To me super eagles best midfield trio for now is ndidi(dm),onyeka(b2b) and iwobi(CAM)

Having iwobi ndidi and nwakali/ejaria in the middle means una wan use stress and excessive work kill ndidi

charlesemeka85:
stringing which passes? Make we hear word abeg

Spain and all their passes in this ongoing World Cup where are they today?

Spain got to the Quarter finals. We did not qualify. Can you spot the difference?

charlesemeka85:
Make una create una own team or village league mk nwakali come dey play there

As of the super eagles him no get space unless he up his ante

Also he will be remembered alongside rabiu Ibrahim and others that failed to live up to expectation

Marjoribanks:
Exactly! Na you dey understand Oracle pass. AndSunGorrilla pikin will one day play for United Kingdom. This is what I see!

TheGoodJoe:


Spain got to the Quarter finals. We did not qualify. Can you spot the difference?

terzurum5:

I will not call them failure.
Coach Eguavon's team for instance, played the best attacking football I have watched from the Super Eagles for a decade or more.

What the NFF and the fans fail to understand is that these Coaches need time to setup their team playing philosophy for the players to adapt.

Give these Nigerian Coaches the right motivation and long term plan and see them produce results.

The aim should not be to get results in the short run. The hundreds of millions we have wasted over these mushrooms foreign coaches with not corresponding results would have been better utilized if the team had been trusted into the hands of our local Coaches.

You hire Nigerian Coaches today, pay them peanuts. The next 24months or less, you sack them to employ a foreign Coach who will reap us of thousands of Dollars with no meaningful result.

Give Coach Eguavon and Siasia a contract of 5 years and the enabling environment let them give you results.

AndSunGorilla:

RIP to Tbaba again. Still on Tbaba, do you have his former address? I ask because since he used to send gifts to you, one could be able to access his family. He was a good man!!!! Maybe give his kids gifts too and remind them of how good their father was when he was alive.
Back to discourse, egbon abeg I understand how and why you got provoked but please let's leave out parents next time please sir.
Also back to the faceless forum ish, I also met someone here who helped me at my time of need, all he did was give me a referral that enabled me get my 9ja passport renewed. This was at the height of covid o, I didn't pay a dime for that service. So people na like water, while this is faceless, you never know what can come out of it.

charlesemeka85:
it’s no big deal for a top team like Spain to make the quarter finals of the World Cup

Also after their 2010 world triumph they hv stringed over 3000 passes in the World Cup from 2014-2022 but only managed to win just 3 matches

Germany and all their midfield schemers where re they?

Italy that has superiors midfielders when compared to the super eagles did they qualify?

Football as a game have evolved and it takes more than passes to win trophies and games in this generation

AndSunGorilla:

What kind of wood do you want me to use for the bench and what dimensions too

fabyom:
Sir, I promise to ignore him going forward! I sent some gifts to his address few years ago but it was returned cos he has moved. I also moved away from that side too. So we lost contact until I saw the news here of his demise. I have also asked here if anyone knows the where about of his family. I just can't get over it. A man like that is rare!

terzurum5:

I will not call them failure.
Coach Eguavon's team for instance, played the best attacking football I have watched from the Super Eagles for a decade or more.

What the NFF and the fans fail to understand is that these Coaches need time to setup their team playing philosophy for the players to adapt.

Give these Nigerian Coaches the right motivation and long term plan and see them produce results.

The aim should not be to get results in the short run. The hundreds of millions we have wasted over these mushrooms foreign coaches with not corresponding results would have been better utilized if the team had been trusted into the hands of our local Coaches.

You hire Nigerian Coaches today, pay them peanuts. The next 24months or less, you sack them to employ a foreign Coach who will reap us of thousands of Dollars with no meaningful result.

Give Coach Eguavon and Siasia a contract of 5 years and the enabling environment let them give you results.

TheGoodJoe:


Maybe, the Super Eagles are the ones that need to up their ante and set up a midfield that can keep the ball and create chances for the offence.

AndSunGorilla:

Really sad but that's life man. Now he's not hear but see how we are talking about him. I just pray for his family and wish them well. Peace!!!

charlesemeka85:
it’s no big deal for a top team like Spain to make the quarter finals of the World Cup

Also after their 2010 World Cup triumph they hv stringed over 3000 passes in the World Cup from 2014-2022 but only managed to win 3 matches

Germany and all their midfield schemers where re they?

Italy that has superiors midfielders when compared to the super eagles did they qualify?

Football as a game have evolved and it takes more than passes to win trophies and games in this generation

TheGoodJoe:


Nigeria is mocking World Cup and Euro winners. Nothing Yara Yara will not see on Nairaland thread.

Spain has won loads. From Euros to World Cup. Won loads of Junior titles. They are not in the position you can mock.