Donjazet2:


Clearly you did not understand my post or his post which you responded to.

Let me use numbers, there are 100 People in a class, the vast majority of them are not malleable to directives politically but then they don't even care about who leads them.

Out of that 100 People, only 10 people do vote which makes it easier for all types of leaders to spring up because the small electorate can be more easily manipulated.

Now in the other class, 60 out of the 100 do vote but they vote based on instructions from their leaders whether the leaders are good or bad.

Now get the baseline of this argument. BOTH do have bad leaders but the reasons for that are different. That's the point for the most part.

izzou:


So you drew your analysis that Igbos vote credible leaders from the 90 that didn't vote, right?

Don't you think it is time to wake up from all these lies we tell ourselves of how one region votes better than the others?

If any region was voting with credibility, most office holders won't smell a second term. The SE have been plagued with very bad leaders, and it goes for almost all parts of the country

Stop using this voter apathy to ignore the patterns right from 1999.

raumdeuter:


Is the voting numbers different for other regions SIGNIFICANTLY?

izzou:


So you drew your analysis that Igbos vote credible leaders from the 90 that didn't vote, right?

Don't you think it is time to wake up from all these lies we tell ourselves of how one region votes better than the others?

If any region was voting with credibility, most office holders won't smell a second term. The SE have been plagued with very bad leaders, and it goes for almost all parts of the country

Stop using this voter apathy to ignore the patterns right from 1999.

izzou:


So you drew your analysis that Igbos vote credible leaders from the 90 that didn't vote, right?
Don't you think it is time to wake up from all these lies we tell ourselves of how one region votes better than the others?
If any region was voting with credibility, most office holders won't smell a second term. The SE have been plagued with very bad leaders, and it goes for almost all parts of the country

Stop using this voter apathy to ignore the patterns right from 1999.

Donjazet2:


I will like to know your opinion on this piece.
Do you agree with what is said here?

Donjazet2:


You like dabbling in unnecessary semantics.

You keep inventing your own narratives to now argue against.
No one has said anything about who votes credible leaders, we're saying both sides have bad leaders but root causes are different because one side doesn't vote as much.

The intent of the guys entire message is that igbos are historically less malleable to leaders.. they bow to no leader. That's basically the essence of the message.

This is one argument I don't have strength for. If you believe fine, if you don't, fine.

Theflint1:
Like I told DonJ before, even if every single Nigerian came out to vote on election day, most likely the results will be no different from what we're getting. The number of person's voting is hardly the problem.

izzou:


That is what Mr Spy said, and i intentionally bolded that part to make my comment.

Stop twisting and turning. The SE and any other region for that matter, DO NOT vote based on credibility.

If you like share Voters card to all indigenes in Abia state, PDP will produce the next governor, and he will be Ikpeazu's stooge[

Theflint1:
Like I told DonJ before, even if every single Nigerian came out to vote on election day, most likely the results will be no different from what we're getting. The number of person's voting is hardly the problem.

Donjazet2:


You speak so ignorantly. Can you tell me how Rochas became governor? Or Peter Obi himself?
When you look into those gubernatorial races you see the that you're talking bullshite.

Theflint1:
Like I told DonJ before, even if every single Nigerian came out to vote on election day, most likely the results will be no different from what we're getting. The number of person's voting is hardly the problem.

raumdeuter:


Elon simply went against the left, The media does not have a problem with other billionaires when they align towards the left, Its only when they turn to the other side that we start all these analysis of their political leanings

All what Elon was doing at Twitter, that seemed to favor the right, Twitter was doing it for years to favor the left and no one had a problem with it

Facebook and Twitter even admitted they suppressed news that they felt was unfavorable to the left

Roland17:


Fair point but you can't absolve Musk entirely from his current problem. Firstly, it doesn't look like he did his homework before committing to acquiring Twitter and now we know he bought an overvalued company with millions of fake accounts. He has tried hard to make up the money with some aggressive marketing strategies like making the blue check mark available to anyone that can afford it, taking money out of Tesla at the chagrin of other shareholders to fund Twitter and other measures but it is still failing,.

I don't think this is entirely about the media, I mean there is some truth to it but advertisers are there for business just like Musk who is trying to make money. While Musk is not your typical business man, something has to be said about the fact that other billionaires are not constantly making the news because they know the impact. He is very unstable and unpredictable which is different but it comes with its challenges in business.

izzou:


The politicians keep manipulating us, but we keep thinking we have the cards.

No state votes based on credibility. If APGA presents a fooool after Soludo, he will win.

raumdeuter:


Other billionaires are making news but making the news thats favorable to the left so its okay
For instance Florida passes a parental right law, Disney a company comes out to speak against a State law, and its okay. But anyone that goes against the grain stands out

At a time if you post that men cannot get pregnant it might likely get banned and you are likely to get suspended

Elon is more outspoken and likes the attention. Surely I think Twitter was overvalued when he bought it given the number of bots but the amount of attention they are giving to Elon issue is to a deliberate attempt to make him bow to the wishes of the left

Right now the left are determined to troll him or frustrate him into submission and he seems to have their time

izzou:


The politicians keep manipulating us, but we keep thinking we have the cards.

No state votes based on credibility. If APGA presents a fooool after Soludo, he will win.

raumdeuter:


Honestly Osun Oyo Ogun Ondo Ekiti people have a claim to voting credibility than Anambra Enugu Abia or Ebonyi

At least in the past 20yrs all those SW states have switched parties multiple times in governorship bit Enugu Abia Ebonyi has anyone ever won election when not PDP?

If you believe Ekeweremaddu is spending 24yrs in Senate because he is the most credible, Then I believe Obi will win the next election

izzou:


We are talking about credibility, bros. Because parties were switched doesn't make the person credible.

What is credible about switching from Gbenga Daniel to Ibikunle Amosun?

Unless the new definition of electing credible leaders mean changing parties at will, I believe nobody does that.

raumdeuter:


A person who voted a different party can claim he rejected the old because of credibility not one who has been voting same way for 20yrs whether na cat bird or elephant dem present

raumdeuter:


Have you seen the quality of governors since 1999. Ohakim TA Orji, Ikpeazu, Ugwuanyi, Chime, Mbadinuju Obi, Obiano etc are all judgment based on credibility?

Anambra has voted APGA for the past 20yrs straight, Enugu Abia Ebonyi have all voted PDP whether na devil dey ballot for the past 24yrs

Probably once you are in APGA in Anambra you become credible and once you are in PDP in Abia Enugu Ebonyi, you become credible

Donjazet2:


Itsrm, you didn't reply me here.

Spy360:

Most of the time the bad leadership are products of bad systems. Sometimes it's the electoral process (Ohakim, Uzodinma etc) sometimes it's the loss of credibility of the individual (Rochas), sometimes the judgement leads to apathy and the highest rigger takes the day. But Igbos don't support a person unless they consider him credible.

Itsrm:


I have answered already. I don't think any of the frontline candidates will make any significant impact. I don't think one is less harmful than the other. They all have issues I'm not willing to overlook.

Tinubu has his health issues to deal with neither do I think he has the mental capacity to rule the nation.

Atiku is a desperate thief. He's the only presidential aspirant who hardly ever talks about corruption. The less said about him, the better.

My main issue with Obi is the way he tries so hard to be seen a certain way. Experience has taught me that those who do that are usually terrible humans/leaders.

Secondly, there's no track record. Almost everyone I've seen who lived in Anambra when Obi was Governor have nothing good to say about his administration. Why should I believe the story will change with him as president.

You want me to vote? You will have to put Wike on the ballot. He's the only one I trust to deal with insecurity heads on based on antecedents.

He's the only one who does not bother about stepping on toes to get the job done. He's the first politician I've seen who threatens his friends with jail if they don't execute the contract he gives them.

Since you obviously can't put him on the ballot, trying to convince me to vote is like pouring water in a basket.

My mind is made up and you posting that screenshot a million times won't change it.

WhoDeyHause:

I wish osinbajo or wike was on the ballot they have their own flaws too but they seem better equiped than any of these candidates we are presented with. With atiku 's presence in the north Im honestly afraid he will win. If it doesn't win the next is tinubu in terms of win probability. The future just looks bleaker and bleaker.

Itsrm:


Its annoying. In a country of 200m people, see the three frontline candidates.

If Atiku wins, the level of theft will be unprecedented. When last did you see SDM flaunt cars on social media? These are people who are bold enough to steal your money and rub it on your face.

Itsrm:

Tinubu has his health issues to deal with neither do I think he has the mental capacity to rule the nation.
Atiku is a desperate thief. He's the only presidential aspirant who hardly ever talks about corruption. The less said about him, the better.

My main issue with Obi is the way he tries so hard to be seen a certain way . Experience has taught me that those who do that are usually terrible humans/leaders.

Secondly, there's no track record. Almost everyone I've seen who lived in Anambra when Obi was Governor have nothing good to say about his administration. Why should I believe the story will change with him as president.
You want me to vote? You will have to put Wike on the ballot. He's the only one I trust to deal with insecurity heads on based on antecedents.

Donjazet2:


I don't know why I find this post funny.
You say you don't like Obi because he tries Soo hard to project simplicity..

Imagine a world where a reason for not voting a politician is because he tries to project an image of simplicity and humility. Something he has done since he ascended public office.
Mr man when it comes to Obi, his number one selling point is his prudence with public funds.

Your whole point is now rendered almost foolish when you declare that the person you want is an acclaimed chronic thief, corrupt entity, cheif embezzler and enabler of corruption.

Itsrm:


Same as Obi the thief who was caught transporting 250m naira raw cash.

Like someone else noted, only God knows how many more he moved that were not caught.

So Obi will appoint better judges, better ministers but he cannot even appoint a better campaign DG. You have a brain, I sometimes wonder why you don't use it once it comes to Obi.

You want to vote him, goodluck. I will not. You can cry till eternity, your tears won't change my choice

Donjazet2:


I don't know why I find this post funny.
You say you don't like Obi because he tries Soo hard to project simplicity..

Imagine a world where a reason for not voting a politician is because he tries to project an image of simplicity and humility. Something he has done since he ascended public office.
Mr man when it comes to Obi, his number one selling point is his prudence with public funds.

Your whole point is now rendered almost foolish when you declare that the person you want is an acclaimed chronic thief, corrupt entity, cheif embezzler and enabler of corruption.
You support wike because of his dictatorial tendencies, you don't support Obi because some people have said negative things about him, meanwhile you're overlooking the millions saying positive things about him and worse still, you've refused to use your own hand to research on the candidate himself very well rather than rely on what people say.

You're just not serious. People like you are the reason I'm intensifying my effort to make people vote.
Bro, this is politics, not a divine race, to be at the top of politics means you've dined with the devil at some point, you will never see a candidate that ticks all your boxes because what you seek is different from what others seek.
What you must do is choose the candidate that ticks the most for you and is the best among the options presented.

I can't keep repeating this enough! A presidency is beyond just one man. An Obi presidency, especially one led and fuelled by the masses and has a lack of establishment support means he has an autonomy and freer room to be his own person and make his own personal choices and appointments.

An Obi presidency appoints better ambassadors, better judges, better ministers.
An Obi presidency has better motivation to work for the people.

Meanwhile NOT VOTING is antithetical to whatever ideal or wish you have for the country. Not voting is a complete surrender to the evil forces that have darkened the nation to what it is today.
Not voting is infact VOTING. Not voting is ensuring that terrible leaders capture the state. The state of which you are under their whims and caprices. Not voting is playing the ostrich. And unfortunately your choice affects me, it affects all of us so go sit down and make better rational decisions.

akwesenana:

One thing is certain.
Peter Obi will lose many votes because of you.