Steep:
you are being disingenuous, which "particular choice" I asked? You said any choice. This is an ambiguous answer.

Aemmyjah:


What am I saying and what are you saying?
You're ignoring the main thing
Freedom of choice

Jokerman:
Freewill is an illusion.

No freewill, you'd either end in the lake of fire, or be with Jesus at the new earth and heaven, after this life choices.

TenQ:

When the manufacturer creates the laptop computer, does he load it with virus?
OR
Virus get into the computer because the USER connected an unverified software source accessing the computer?

Dtruthspeaker:


If he wanted to, nothing stops him.

hayoholla:


. Incorrect bro. If there's no such thing as a computer "system", how will a computer virus exist . Try harder next time.

TenQ:

But God wanted to CREATE a free Man.

It was the PURPOSE for Creation in the first place!

kingxsamz:

Lol, no.
For one to be perfect, that person cannot be prone to having flaws.

So why all the mess then? Even a human being would have done better. From being omniscient to putting a dangerous tree in the same garden you intend your creation to inhabit forever, to being omnipotent, yet, still unable to stop Satan, to the point that you had to drown the entire world and send your son to die. And in the end nothing changed.

Whoever created the tree of life and allowed Satan the serpent to have access to the garden where two inexperienced adults were supposed to live is definitely responsible for everything.
And please address the "robber analogy" I gave.

kingxsamz:


Lol, okay.
So someone goes to heaven, do they have the freewill to assault somebody?

LordReed:


Lolz quote where you asked which "particular choice".

kingxsamz:


This was what the OP asked and you people mentioned freewill.

Now, I asked if there's freewill in heaven and you guys said yes, meanwhile, you claim one cannot commit sin in heaven.
So this only brings us back to the OP's question. Why would your "good god" create creatures who have potentials to commit sin?
Why didn't he just make them incapable of sin just as it is in heaven?

LordReed:


So why didn't the god just create such people in the first place?

Dtruthspeaker:


Who told you He does not have such people in the first place?

And now He is doing a different thing. Promotion and demotion things which ever apply

Steep:
I asked "which choice", instead of playing hide and seek why don't you answer it.

Steep:
make a choice about what?

LordReed:


LoLz. you are the one playing hide and seek. You asked:

Does this look like you asked, "which choice"?

And still you haven't answered the simple question, will these transformed have the ability make a choice in the heaven?

LordReed:


Where are such people?

Dtruthspeaker:


You don't know God! You thought He was joking when He Said nothing is impossible with Him. It's there in the Bible



And you are doing what your Maker (God) Programmed you to do just as your robots are doing what you programmed them to do.

Robots and mannequins are your own toys, you, plants and animals are God's Own toys.

Dtruthspeaker:


Haba! Don't deny The Truth because you do not want to accept it.

You saw and we all see that they became evil and proved they were evil by doing evil ONLY AFTER THE FRUIT HAD BEEN EATEN?

You do not aaccuse your wife of pregnancy and cheating until AFTER she must have had sex with another man.

kingxsamz:


Lol, I'm still waiting for your answer to my question.
Also, you can't be perfect and still make mistakes.

Dtruthspeaker:


The other day you told those atheists that you and animals specifically monkeys are the same save the software of talking.

And guess what, just as you are liable for your choices, they too have the same liability.

Also, remember, even the stones talk.

Just as you have your dumb mannequins and talking mannequins, so also are you a toy to your Maker!

You are still a toy irrespective of whether you are self operating robot or mascot.

Dtruthspeaker:


See devil! It is always a bad thing that must come out from your mouth

Dtruthspeaker:


That is the power of a creator. This is a chicken and egg scenario.

A maker can create a computer virus first before making the computer or create the computer first before making the virus. But which came first, only the creator or creators can tell us.

But your answer was a change of post o for he did not ask whether a computer was made before or after the virus.

Dtruthspeaker:


Any where God kept them to be.

Steep:
yes They can make a choice but not choices like before. In the new creation the order of things would be different.

Revelation 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Steep:
you don't get to decide what is perfect or not so long you are not the designer neither do you even know the purpose why it was made.

you are silly, why would you make a car to move on land and still prevent it from moving?
Why should God prevent man from exercising his freewill. The presence of Satan in the garden presents man with the opportunity to show where his loyalty lies.

Your robber analogy makes no sense, nobody is putting a gun on your head.

LordReed:


"not choices like before" what does this mean?

Steep:
It means things would be different.

LordReed:


Then it doesn't matter, the god could have done all that at the beginning.

Steep:
you are going round in circles again. When you go through school you start from the first level right? After finishing the whole level do you still repeat the process again? Or you can as well ask why not walk into the university and collect a BSc certificate from the beginning instead of going through thus whole process.

The Sons of God are going through a process, once the process is complete, everything would be changed.

LordReed:


And where is that?

Aemmyjah:


Gee
Chop knuckle first
As I de hail u so
I just de wait for me and you to meet

Aemmyjah:

According to your illustration, it was God that made the virus called sin right?

Aemmyjah:

A toy is always manipulated to do the will of his Master whether good or man.

Aemmyjah:

If what you're saying is true, then God is to blame for all badness but you're wrong cos man is fully responsible for all his actions and he will reap what he sow, not his Maker