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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:51pm On Dec 19, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Analyse the match. Spain did not play yesterday.
You are deliberately obfuscating the point. I have said it that Deschamps got his tactics wrong. That has been universally acknowledged. Even so much was said about that in the clip I posted. So you are not saying anything different from what most people who watched the match have said.

The point of departure is that you said he lacks tactical acumen and that he should go.
What that means is that he's not good enough. In effect, he's a bad coach. How? Show it through consistent bad results that he lacks tactical acumen. Show it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:58pm On Dec 19, 2022
Mujtahida:

You are deliberately obfuscating the point. I have said it that Deschamps got his tactics wrong. That has been universally acknowledged. Even so much was said about that in the clip I posted. So you are not saying anything different from what most people who watched the match have said.

The point of departure is that you said he lacks tactical acumen and that he should go.
What that means is that he's not good enough. In effect, he's a bad coach. How? Show it through consistent bad results that he lacks tactical acumen. Show it.


I have made my point. In the second half after the equalizer, Deschamps had no clue about how to get the team to fire. That shows how weak his tactical acumen is.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:59pm On Dec 19, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


I will prefer if you analyzed and gave me your opinion. You guys did not even know France were poor in their display. That tells a lot.
Who is arguing against it that France was poor. Beyond even poor, Deschamps got his tactics wrong but as a good coach, he responded swiftly.

Your call for his resignation is unjustified. Simple.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:00pm On Dec 19, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


I have made my point. In the second half after the equalizer, Deschamps had no clue about how to get the team to fire. That shows how weak his tactical acumen is.
Na so. E easy to talk.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:00pm On Dec 19, 2022
Mujtahida:

Who is arguing against it that France was poor. Beyond even poor, Deschamps got his tactics wrong but as a good coach, he responded swiftly.

Your call for his resignation is unjustified. Simple.

And after the equalizer by Mbappe, he responded poorly.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:03pm On Dec 19, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


And after the equalizer by Mbappe, he responded poorly.
One match does not make a bad tactician. Unless you just want to argue.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 9:04pm On Dec 19, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Read the screenshot or you want to argue with Deschamps and tell him the teams display were outstanding?

Argentina that lost a very good lead 3x it’s not poor display?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 9:05pm On Dec 19, 2022
Mujtahida:

One match does not make a bad tactician. Unless you just want to argue.


God bless you

Some people here are just not it
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 9:06pm On Dec 19, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


And after the equalizer by Mbappe, he responded poorly.

He should resign but peseiro should not resign
Lol
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:11pm On Dec 19, 2022
typicalgamer:


God bless you

Some people here are just not it
There's nothing cheaper than talking. I thought a man is to be judged by his results.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 9:20pm On Dec 19, 2022
Mujtahida:

Then you put your point across poorly when you say that the coach lacks tactical acumen and he should be excused. Every once in a while good coaches flip. It has happened to gaudiola more than once. Would you then say he's lacks tactical acumen.

Criticize Deschamps approach. That's fair given the game we saw but going overboard to say he lacks tactical acumen and that he should be removed is to demean his achievements.

France had a good pool of players but were knocked out first round of the 2002 world cup. They had a good pool of players but Domenech did not achieve anything with them. England since the mid 2002s has had a good pool of players. They've even been coached by illustrious coaches like Capello. Their achievements are nowhere near the French.

So having a good pool of players is one side of the coin. The other side is getting CONSISTENT results with them. Deschamps record is consistent with great results. The French know better.
I personally don't just like Deschamps but I no fit argue against results

Especially consistent results

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:27pm On Dec 19, 2022
Odunayaw:
I personally don't just like Deschamps but I no fit argue against results

Especially consistent results
Bro, I'm indifferent to Deschamps but facts are facts.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:36pm On Dec 19, 2022
Odunayaw:
I personally don't just like Deschamps but I no fit argue against results

Especially consistent results

Diego Simeone and Mourinho had consistent results but their style dwindled down.

That is why I have always hammered about me not being a result man. I am more driven by play and long term performance.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 9:42pm On Dec 19, 2022
do4luv14:



What gives you the motion that he will play Osimhen there, If anything, he will turn Osimhen into a lethal beast,

you think he had not be taking note of him
You didn't understand my sarcasm.
What I mean is that Mourinho is known for his defensive approach to games so we might see Osimehn (a striker) playing as a DM.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 9:43pm On Dec 19, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Diego Simeone and Mourinho had consistent results but their style dwindled down.

That is why I have always hammered about me not being a result man. I am more driven by play and long term performance.
Long term performance of your favorites haven't been good too

No?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:47pm On Dec 19, 2022
Odunayaw:
Long term performance of your favorites haven't been good too

No?

Class. Spain at the Euro against Italy.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:48pm On Dec 19, 2022
Odunayaw:
Long term performance of your favorites haven't been good too

No?
I don hand over the baton of the argument to you. You be super sub
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 9:55pm On Dec 19, 2022
When Deschamp realized things are not working, he brought on Kolo and Thuram.

Van Gaal brought on Weghorst and Headmaster (De Jong).

And then there is Enrique who will rather stick to aimless passings rather than change tactic.

But Deschamp is the one with problem.... cheesy

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 10:23pm On Dec 19, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Class. Spain at the Euro against Italy.
As usual, it ended in tears for them

Two facts can exist. Bravery isn't a guarantee for winning.

And Spain is not even an example of bravery.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 10:24pm On Dec 19, 2022
mostob:
When Deschamp realized things are not working, he brought on Kolo and Thuram.

Van Gaal brought on Weghorst and Headmaster (De Jong).

And then there is Enrique who will rather stick to aimless passings rather than change tactic.

But Deschamp is the one with problem.... cheesy
theGoodjoe will try to redefine this tomfoolery as bravery

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 10:25pm On Dec 19, 2022
Mujtahida:

I don hand over the baton of the argument to you. You be super sub
VAR de check the substitution

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:36pm On Dec 19, 2022
Odunayaw:
As usual, it ended in tears for them

Two facts can exist. Bravery isn't a guarantee for winning.

And Spain is not even an example of bravery.

Back to my earlier point. Long term success comes from good development. Spain did not have good results from USA 94 and later ended up winning The Euros twice and the World Cup. They are still a quality side today.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 10:40pm On Dec 19, 2022
komekn:


Where is Le Penn drifted into total insignificance and forgotten.
Le Penn is now 94 so shouldn't be active in politics at that age, his daughter is still in the french assembly and is the head of the far right movement. Secondly, Coman and Toomuchmoney have already been racially abused online by some french guys I guess.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 10:42pm On Dec 19, 2022
Odunayaw:
VAR de check the substitution
Boss fortify before u enter o, chop plenty akpu and remain some for pocket.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 11:09pm On Dec 19, 2022
He had a much better team.He shouldn't even let it get there. Just put them away. If anyone can do it, it should tiki-taka-tactical Enrique. cheesy grin. Unfortunately, he was clueless.
TheGoodJoe:


Enrique lost by penalties and dominated the game. There is nothing to be ashamed of. He lost to a good side.
It takes nothing away from Enrique.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 11:15pm On Dec 19, 2022
Starboytwo:
naxo one Italian friend told his friend one day in Venice. “We never miss two world cups” then Macedonia happens.

grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 11:16pm On Dec 19, 2022
elyte89:


With d way we re going with dis out attitude towards football ,from d management down to the players, 2026 World Cup no sure o grin
Then Abuja stadium riot go reach glasshouse o. Lol
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 11:17pm On Dec 19, 2022
mostob:
Lol...
Will you take him ahead of Ramsdale?
He deserved better regardless.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 11:18pm On Dec 19, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Back to my earlier point. Long term success comes from good development. Spain did not have good results from USA 94 and later ended up winning The Euros twice and the World Cup. They are still a quality side today.
So Deschamps own is not long term success abi

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 11:18pm On Dec 19, 2022
TheLoneCitizen:


I don't think they concede two with Lisandro.

Otamendi will not have been alone with Kolo.

Mbappe wouldn't have had so much space for second.
And Dembele wouldn't need to defend if Licha was one. Meaning double threat.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 11:18pm On Dec 19, 2022
AndSunGorilla:

Boss fortify before u enter o, chop plenty akpu and remain some for pocket.
Mo ti dira

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 11:19pm On Dec 19, 2022
Blueelf:


We never got knocked out in an AFCON round of 16 before, so there's always a first time

grin
Lol. We pray for no repeat. Thunder go faya nff

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