OhBritannia:
How the argument went from messi must win the world cup first to be the greatest of all time To Pele has three world cups so he is greater than Messi

This is how GOD confuses haters

BlueMann:
Brazilian wonder kid
Andrey Santos�� is on his way to Chelsea.The Club intended to formalize the proposal for the midfielder after the World Cup and it arrived this week.Manchester City and Newcastle also made offers, but the boy chose Chelsea. (
@pedrosa

BlueMann:
Can't wait for Mount, Havertz and Jorginho to sanitize this thread

popizaino:


They play in Europe.


So how is what Mbappe said there disrespectful?

andrewbaba44:


Omo

People hate Messi for naija sha

Na that final I take confirm ,mbappe goal be like say na osimhen just equalize for super eagles

MorataFC:
I was shivering especially the second goal, thank God Messi won.

TLona1:


Messi, Neymar, Paredes, Vintinha, Vinicius etc play for South American countries.

Mbappe is outrightly saying thier countries aren't up to par.

andrewbaba44:
Ronaldo fans

hensben:
Your first point, you don’t use one game to win wc. Messi has been best player in two wc. He was carried to two of his wc which is fact. Brazil is the biggest footballing nation. On individual level, messi is the greatest footbalrt of all time.

zeusis:

Thunder will fire tuchel every gw


do you know this guy?

Ibime:


World Cup golden ball that even FIFA President admitted was fraud

Pele, Maradona and Ronaldo are the only players to be best player twice in World Cups, but they were only awarded once

Pele was best in 1958 - awarded to Didi
Maradona was best in 1990 - awarded to Scillachi
Ronaldo was best in 2002 - awarded to Oliver Khan

These are what the streets know outside of the polling booth. And the streets know Messi 2014 golden boot with zero knockout stage goal contribution was a complete fraud, even the FIFA President that awarded it confessed

BlueMann:
Brazilian wonder kid
Andrey Santos�� is on his way to Chelsea.The Club intended to formalize the proposal for the midfielder after the World Cup and it arrived this week.Manchester City and Newcastle also made offers, but the boy chose Chelsea. (
@pedrosa

Chelsea have closed the signing of Vasco da gama's 18-year old Brazilian midfielder Andrey Santos. He is expected to undergo medical tests and sign the contract

The project offered by the London club weighed above all else.✍️��� #CFC

(via
@UOLEsporte
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andrewbaba44:
Ronaldo fans

OhBritannia:
How the argument went from messi must win the world cup first to be the greatest of all time To Pele has three world cups so he is greater than Messi

This is how GOD confuses haters

hensben:
Modric led Croatia to wc final and semi final. Let that sink and no room for such excuse.

Phraser:


You didn't watch Pele play live, neither did you see him play in many games. What you rely on are "many Pele documentaries" and statistics (which is hardly a reliable way of gauging a footballer's ability), meaning you have no true first-hand empirical knowledge about his ability, and yet you are fully convinced he is the greatest footballer of all time?

Doesn't seem like sound reasoning to me. (At any rate, you are in the minority. Most people choose Messi).

That aside, you said all the "euphoria" around Messi would die down in ten years time. I don't think any right-minded person believes that. Have you seen the man's digital footprint and cultural influence?

If anything, it's Pele's legacy that's at stake—maybe that's why he keeps tinkering with his records on his Instagram page, aware that the world is moving on. The likes of Messi and CR7 were lucky to have played in the social media era, and there are billions of clips of them online, unlike Pele whose legacy is solely hinged on word of mouth. 50 more years or so and no one would bother about a player that played in the black-and-white era.

Seems to me like Pele was your football hero growing up and you are stubbornly clinging to the past, because I have read your comments on this thread and have not seen any good arguments from you to back up your claims.

Ibime:



Even if you are deliberately lazy, the 1970 World Cup is available in colour and on all media platforms

You are being deliberately foolish claiming a player with 3 World Cups, 12 non penalty goals, 10 assists in 14 games has no argument against a player with 8 non penalty goals and 8 assists in 25 games

Deliberately foolish claiming a player with 7 Balon d'Ors without playing Europe has no claim against a player with 7 Balon d'Ors in Europe

Deliberately foolish claiming a player with 750 non penalty goals in just 812 games despite playing midfield half his career has no claim against a forward with 682 non penalty goals in 1002 games

Deliberately foolish claiming a guy with 7 World Cup semifinal and final non-penalty goals has no claim against someone with just one

Pele has stood the test of time for 60 years. E no get one angle Messi fit use against Pele

Ibime:


If they ask you to quote this now you would start fumbling

Messi needed to win the World Cup to be considered with Pele and Maradona or disappear into obscurity. He never stood a chance of being the GOAT. It's too late for him

Android17:
Use technology, software, a device -heck- use a car. Everything we have today is better than what we had before. Why should soccer greatness be any different? Messi is the GOAT.

I am not buying the argument that somebody started something when there was less accountability or traction. Less money; less visibility, but somehow is better than the person who had all those to think about as well. Come off it. Messi is the GOAT.

We can give Pelé a mention for engendering something but that does not make him the GOAT or else we have to use the same logic for our computers and phones. Our internet speed, camera quality, video pixel definitions and so on.

Someone might want to give some concession and say Messi is the GOOT - Goat of our time - but that is a self-immolating statement because the Goat of our time will be the Goat of ALL times or till another time.OAT.

Ibime:


Save the fairytales abeg. . . . there was a lot more space for strikers in the old days, thats why matches regularly end up 7-3, 5-2, 8-1 etc. . .  .

No striker in the modern era can score the amount of goals those old guys did cos space is simply at a premium cos players run more than double the distance they used to, thus closing up any space. . .

Till infinity, no one will ever outscore Just Fontaine who scored 13 goals in 1958 World Cup or Gerd Mullers 10 goals in 1970. . . . thats how easy it was to score those days, so please save your "Thunder Balogun" stories about football being a difficult game in the old days. . . .

raumdeuter:
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https://www.nairaland.com/430183/calling-lionel-messi-greatest-player/2#5893763