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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:49pm On Jan 06, 2023
Nigeria Women’s League.

Delta queens vs Naija Ratels. A bunch of our U17 girls on display and great goals scored.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc4tu-PV9kM

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 8:49pm On Jan 06, 2023
jihday:
I think there must be a name for this thing Nigerians love to do, urge to always rubbish your country and her achievements.

You're on the internet.. the person you're quoting can be from another country.. the person may not be African.... anytime I see such comments I press the report button...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:49pm On Jan 06, 2023
komekn:


Because there are huge disparities in bone fusion across races in the first instance. When you then add the impact of malnutrition, limited health care, environmental factors, multi faceted deprivation you can not have a singular aggregate for all races.

As a consequence, a white Caucasian teenage male growing up in the west will not have bone fusion at the same rate of as a Nigerian growing up in multi faceted and causal deprivation.

What does that mean, that bone fusion may occur in general for the White male at 16/17. But possibly much later in the West African male living in multi faceted deprivation maybe even up to 21.

Because the base line data operates on aggregate assumptions when bone fusion should occur. What the MRI tells you unequivocally is when bone fusion has occurred.

However, the age that it should occur has several influencing variables. That's why your assertion is actually probable and cannot be dismissed.

Stop spreading falsehood.

Race, geographic location and nutrition were all considered by FIFA before choosing the MRI scan as the criteria due to the these factors playing little role in wrist bone fusion.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 8:50pm On Jan 06, 2023
maidaboi:
https://forum.cybereagles.com/viewtopic.php?p=5841393#p5841393
A friend forwarded me the story below - can’t verify the details but it makes for interesting reading. We have so much potential but we remain where we are because of the “Naija Factor”.

Just sharing an interesting personal account by a usa-based Diasporan!
TonyO
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“As I look at the recently concluded world cup series, I am saddened by the performance of the Green Eagles.

While many people know of my foray into software development for the country, I seldom talk about other projects I attempted to execute in the country as part of my contribution as a Diasporan who wanted to give back.

A friend in this group called me today to ask and wonder why the 360 degree turn in my attitude towards the country and why I am so embittered. I laughed and said nothing. After careful deliberation, I thought it was time to share more of my experiences while I sojourn in Nigeria.

Criticism of Diaspora is completely misplaced.

People need to understand the quiet pain and losses we endure for our country.

Once I settled down in 2016 and felt (a false) a sense of security about my investments in Nigeria and the critical development work I was doing for the country, I considered another undertaking.

I was angered by the massive number of Nigerians watching the European Soccer league. I imagined the economic benefits to Europe and financial losses in foreign revenue, lost jobs to Nigeria

I approached the minister of sport in 2017 through a mutual friend and assured him we could bring soccer to international standards in Nigeria. We could set a healthy minimum salary (in millions), create over 100,000 direct middle class jobs in the first year, and over 250,000 indirect middle class and low income jobs.

The minister was dismissive at first. He had been approached with similar offers that never materialized, and I understood his skepticism.

I assured him that I don't start anything if I can't finish it. I am a pitbull of sort when I embark on a project.

I assured him I would bring $1 billion dollars to the game in Nigeria. He practically laughed me out of his office. So, I issued him a challenge.

If I could bring the money to the table, would the ministry grant me a license to start a new league in Nigeria.

He looked me up and down as if to size my capacity to deliver, then chose to take me up on my challenge. Personally, nothing excited me more than a healthy dose of challenge.

I immediately returned to the US. Put a team together. A friend who had played with Atlanta Falcons and ran a semi-pro football team in Atlanta introduced me to a number of sport agents, which led to an introduction to a major sports management group based in NY. I quickly engaged the group to put a league and marketing plan together, a $75k project. My team in Atlanta put the business plan together, and within 30 days, we were armed with a pitch document. I went into sport equity market pitched several equity firms, leveraging my businesses, and i successfully secured a $750m letter of credit (LOC) with terms to draw subject to the issuance of license promised by the minister.

I returned to Abuja and the minister was presented with LOC, I have never seen a black man turned white before, as he could not believe I had an LOC for $750m. I assured him we would supplement the funding with a licensing fee to be issued to 10 club owners at $25ml each, which would complete the $1bl guaranteed to the minister.

The league will fund $50ml to each team, creating a $75ml escrowed capital to launch each club

Leaving us with $250ml to develop the league

We began to test the market for broadcast licensing agreements to fund our LOC payback. Interest was strong and the numbers made sense.

There are more people watching soccer games in Nigeria on a Saturday than the UK, Germany, and France combined. The export market for Nigerian soccer league games across the globe is mature. There would be little or no distance between us and Brazil if we did things right.

Nigeria was licensing Euro soccer games and exporting foreign exchange and to me reversing that trend was a personal objective.

We submitted our business and marketing plan to the minister, including economic impact. He was excited and all on board. The secretary to the Ministry of Sport was on vacation while all these were going on. The legal department engaged us, and an agreement to issue a license was put in place. Negotiation ensued and terms agreed upon. "It's execution time" just needed the secretary to return from vacation.

USL (United Soccer League) was about to be a reality.

We would take over existing federal and state stadiums for 10 clubs and bring them up to international standards with corporate suites.

We were going to leverage the first year of broadcast license to attract retired BIG name international stars like Ronaldinho, Kaka for 1 yr contract or borrow some international star to help launch the league. The clubs making up the league would have to bid to join our first year.

We set our season opposite European league to give us room to grow with minimal competition for our audience.

This was an exciting development for me as things moved along.

Secretary to the ministry returned, and our discussion on agreement was now at his desk, expecting things to move forward. Then came the jolt from all directions.

Suddenly, there was talk about buying the existing NFL, something I vehemently opposed. You can't take a bad product and wrap it in a new package and expect the audience to buy it. There is a reason the NFL is not captivating the attention of Nigerians, but we can help it develop, not acquire it.

Also, we feared we would run into conflict with existing, compromised structure under the control of entrenched personalities.

We offered to put $50ml into the NFL to improve it and allow it to feed players into the USL (United Soccer League) which would increase the value of the NFL and we would share stadium with them to improve value of their broadcast license fees.

Not only would we have triggered massive, minor league development across the country, we would have develop local stars to international status, with similar benefits as enjoyed abroad, retirement programs, health coverage, multi million naira contracts, super star statuses.

I remember introduction to the great Kanu by an assistant to VP Osinbajo and a few other greats in the football space in Nigeria. The excitement was definitely brewing.

I had people working on both sides of the Atlantic working on league rules, marketing, retail licensing, security, trademarks, and other intellectual rights.

Then, the bomb shell. The secretary of the ministry decided to send the agreement to outside parties for review.

It was the last I ever saw the agreement. The agreement left the building and never came back. Inquiries after inquiries yielded nothing.

I was disillusioned, I had put my credibility on the line for the LOC. I had triggered costly activities at numerous organizations locally in Nigeria and in the US.

Suddenly, I got a call from an unknown number. It was a male voice on the other line.

Who is this I asked.

Response : Oga it's not important, I just want to tell you that things will go well if you can at least leave 5% of this project for the people at the ministry.

I was stunned left speechless for about 60 seconds

5% of $750ml is $37.5ml where on earth do you hide that on your books and how do you allocate and describe that expense to your investors.

That was the end of my soccer project in Nigeria. I promised I would not participate in corruption in Nigeria and stood by it.

2 years later, I completed my primary and robust project for Nigeria. Tested and approved to launch in 2019. 45 days before the launch date, a demand came forward that could have easily put me on the radar with the US government and in violation of the US foreign corrupt practices act. I declined.

2 weeks before we were to launch the project for Nigeria, I was verbally advised that the head honcho has decided to stop the project. He was no longer interested. It was no longer about Nigerians. It was about his personal interest and decision.

The cost to me personally was significant financially, with several million dollars just discarded by head honcho of the government agency. I also lost a network of investors and sustained damaged credibility with one of the largest sports equity funds in the US

I left Nigeria and promised only to return for family matters only.

Nigeria died inside me.

To all those who want to criticize Diaspora, please understand that many of us tried and, in many ways, failed. You, the people, just don't know or hear about the sacrifices we make. It's a horror show.

We love our country as much as you do. When you say we are online and just posting and agitating, there are reasons for it.

Nigeria is a crime scene, a burial ground for our investments, life savings, and retirement.

Stop judging us if you don't know the whole story.”

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 8:52pm On Jan 06, 2023
komekn:


Considering the bold gross misrepresentation in that's just a load of balderdash and codswallop.

Go and look up the word brilliant in the dictionary or have a refresher course in English Language.

He was so outstanding, excellent and exceptional he dropped to the retirement league in Turkey from league one. Nantes and all the other teams in French league one were blind to his excellent performances in it seems. And you are the only one with eyes

When a player is excellent outstanding exceptional and brilliant in a league he gets promoted not DEMOTED .
This is proof you either didn't add being a sensible person to your list of New Year resolutions or you've begun to walk in the obstinate direction like other years

I didn't bother reading the trite
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 8:59pm On Jan 06, 2023
charlesemeka85:
he is were he ought to be how? Na where em talent level carry am reach

Pity and emotions is written all over this your post cheesy


See small ogbu of yesterday just left the Scandinavian league to the best club in the Czech league slavia, that is what is called career progression
True to your behavior you just slap names around and think you're making a point

To Ogbu, it's a step up. Pays and perks in Slavia may be 10X what he got in Scandinavia.

On the other hand you cannot tell us the pay and perks offered to Awaziem that he turned down.

Now stop belly dancing about. Awaziem is a good play and do me a favor and put up a better argument

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 9:00pm On Jan 06, 2023
maidaboi:
A friend forwarded me the story below - can’t verify the details but it makes for interesting reading. We have so much potential but we remain where we are because of the “Naija Factor”.

Just sharing an interesting personal account by a usa-based Diasporan!
TonyO
��
****************
“As I look at the recently concluded world cup series, I am saddened by the performance of the Green Eagles.

While many people know of my foray into software development for the country, I seldom talk about other projects I attempted to execute in the country as part of my contribution as a Diasporan who wanted to give back.

A friend in this group called me today to ask and wonder why the 360 degree turn in my attitude towards the country and why I am so embittered. I laughed and said nothing. After careful deliberation, I thought it was time to share more of my experiences while I sojourn in Nigeria.

Criticism of Diaspora is completely misplaced.

People need to understand the quiet pain and losses we endure for our country.

Once I settled down in 2016 and felt (a false) a sense of security about my investments in Nigeria and the critical development work I was doing for the country, I considered another undertaking.

I was angered by the massive number of Nigerians watching the European Soccer league. I imagined the economic benefits to Europe and financial losses in foreign revenue, lost jobs to Nigeria

I approached the minister of sport in 2017 through a mutual friend and assured him we could bring soccer to international standards in Nigeria. We could set a healthy minimum salary (in millions), create over 100,000 direct middle class jobs in the first year, and over 250,000 indirect middle class and low income jobs.

The minister was dismissive at first. He had been approached with similar offers that never materialized, and I understood his skepticism.

I assured him that I don't start anything if I can't finish it. I am a pitbull of sort when I embark on a project.

I assured him I would bring $1 billion dollars to the game in Nigeria. He practically laughed me out of his office. So, I issued him a challenge.

If I could bring the money to the table, would the ministry grant me a license to start a new league in Nigeria.

He looked me up and down as if to size my capacity to deliver, then chose to take me up on my challenge. Personally, nothing excited me more than a healthy dose of challenge.

I immediately returned to the US. Put a team together. A friend who had played with Atlanta Falcons and ran a semi-pro football team in Atlanta introduced me to a number of sport agents, which led to an introduction to a major sports management group based in NY. I quickly engaged the group to put a league and marketing plan together, a $75k project. My team in Atlanta put the business plan together, and within 30 days, we were armed with a pitch document. I went into sport equity market pitched several equity firms, leveraging my businesses, and i successfully secured a $750m letter of credit (LOC) with terms to draw subject to the issuance of license promised by the minister.

I returned to Abuja and the minister was presented with LOC, I have never seen a black man turned white before, as he could not believe I had an LOC for $750m. I assured him we would supplement the funding with a licensing fee to be issued to 10 club owners at $25ml each, which would complete the $1bl guaranteed to the minister.

The league will fund $50ml to each team, creating a $75ml escrowed capital to launch each club

Leaving us with $250ml to develop the league

We began to test the market for broadcast licensing agreements to fund our LOC payback. Interest was strong and the numbers made sense.

There are more people watching soccer games in Nigeria on a Saturday than the UK, Germany, and France combined. The export market for Nigerian soccer league games across the globe is mature. There would be little or no distance between us and Brazil if we did things right.

Nigeria was licensing Euro soccer games and exporting foreign exchange and to me reversing that trend was a personal objective.

We submitted our business and marketing plan to the minister, including economic impact. He was excited and all on board. The secretary to the Ministry of Sport was on vacation while all these were going on. The legal department engaged us, and an agreement to issue a license was put in place. Negotiation ensued and terms agreed upon. "It's execution time" just needed the secretary to return from vacation.

USL (United Soccer League) was about to be a reality.

We would take over existing federal and state stadiums for 10 clubs and bring them up to international standards with corporate suites.

We were going to leverage the first year of broadcast license to attract retired BIG name international stars like Ronaldinho, Kaka for 1 yr contract or borrow some international star to help launch the league. The clubs making up the league would have to bid to join our first year.

We set our season opposite European league to give us room to grow with minimal competition for our audience.

This was an exciting development for me as things moved along.

Secretary to the ministry returned, and our discussion on agreement was now at his desk, expecting things to move forward. Then came the jolt from all directions.

Suddenly, there was talk about buying the existing NFL, something I vehemently opposed. You can't take a bad product and wrap it in a new package and expect the audience to buy it. There is a reason the NFL is not captivating the attention of Nigerians, but we can help it develop, not acquire it.

Also, we feared we would run into conflict with existing, compromised structure under the control of entrenched personalities.

We offered to put $50ml into the NFL to improve it and allow it to feed players into the USL (United Soccer League) which would increase the value of the NFL and we would share stadium with them to improve value of their broadcast license fees.

Not only would we have triggered massive, minor league development across the country, we would have develop local stars to international status, with similar benefits as enjoyed abroad, retirement programs, health coverage, multi million naira contracts, super star statuses.

I remember introduction to the great Kanu by an assistant to VP Osinbajo and a few other greats in the football space in Nigeria. The excitement was definitely brewing.

I had people working on both sides of the Atlantic working on league rules, marketing, retail licensing, security, trademarks, and other intellectual rights.

Then, the bomb shell. The secretary of the ministry decided to send the agreement to outside parties for review.

It was the last I ever saw the agreement. The agreement left the building and never came back. Inquiries after inquiries yielded nothing.

I was disillusioned, I had put my credibility on the line for the LOC. I had triggered costly activities at numerous organizations locally in Nigeria and in the US.

Suddenly, I got a call from an unknown number. It was a male voice on the other line.

Who is this I asked.

Response : Oga it's not important, I just want to tell you that things will go well if you can at least leave 5% of this project for the people at the ministry.

I was stunned left speechless for about 60 seconds

5% of $750ml is $37.5ml where on earth do you hide that on your books and how do you allocate and describe that expense to your investors.

That was the end of my soccer project in Nigeria. I promised I would not participate in corruption in Nigeria and stood by it.

2 years later, I completed my primary and robust project for Nigeria. Tested and approved to launch in 2019. 45 days before the launch date, a demand came forward that could have easily put me on the radar with the US government and in violation of the US foreign corrupt practices act. I declined.

2 weeks before we were to launch the project for Nigeria, I was verbally advised that the head honcho has decided to stop the project. He was no longer interested. It was no longer about Nigerians. It was about his personal interest and decision.

The cost to me personally was significant financially, with several million dollars just discarded by head honcho of the government agency. I also lost a network of investors and sustained damaged credibility with one of the largest sports equity funds in the US

I left Nigeria and promised only to return for family matters only.

Nigeria died inside me.

To all those who want to criticize Diaspora, please understand that many of us tried and, in many ways, failed. You, the people, just don't know or hear about the sacrifices we make. It's a horror show.

We love our country as much as you do. When you say we are online and just posting and agitating, there are reasons for it.

Nigeria is a crime scene, a burial ground for our investments, life savings, and retirement.

Stop judging us if you don't know the whole story.”

Even though these kind of underground dealings is very common in government agencies in Nigeria,I gotta say this story sounds too good to be true.... A new league with investment worth $1bn is definitely something we could have heard whispers of in the news... Though a few years ago, there was talk about some private clubs in Nigeria quiting the NPFL and creating a new league,but it never materialized

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 9:02pm On Jan 06, 2023
maidaboi:
A friend forwarded me the story below - can’t verify the details but it makes for interesting reading. We have so much potential but we remain where we are because of the “Naija Factor”.

Just sharing an interesting personal account by a usa-based Diasporan!
TonyO
��
****************
“As I look at the recently concluded world cup series, I am saddened by the performance of the Green Eagles.

While many people know of my foray into software development for the country, I seldom talk about other projects I attempted to execute in the country as part of my contribution as a Diasporan who wanted to give back.

A friend in this group called me today to ask and wonder why the 360 degree turn in my attitude towards the country and why I am so embittered. I laughed and said nothing. After careful deliberation, I thought it was time to share more of my experiences while I sojourn in Nigeria.

Criticism of Diaspora is completely misplaced.

People need to understand the quiet pain and losses we endure for our country.

Once I settled down in 2016 and felt (a false) a sense of security about my investments in Nigeria and the critical development work I was doing for the country, I considered another undertaking.

I was angered by the massive number of Nigerians watching the European Soccer league. I imagined the economic benefits to Europe and financial losses in foreign revenue, lost jobs to Nigeria

I approached the minister of sport in 2017 through a mutual friend and assured him we could bring soccer to international standards in Nigeria. We could set a healthy minimum salary (in millions), create over 100,000 direct middle class jobs in the first year, and over 250,000 indirect middle class and low income jobs.

The minister was dismissive at first. He had been approached with similar offers that never materialized, and I understood his skepticism.

I assured him that I don't start anything if I can't finish it. I am a pitbull of sort when I embark on a project.

I assured him I would bring $1 billion dollars to the game in Nigeria. He practically laughed me out of his office. So, I issued him a challenge.

If I could bring the money to the table, would the ministry grant me a license to start a new league in Nigeria.

He looked me up and down as if to size my capacity to deliver, then chose to take me up on my challenge. Personally, nothing excited me more than a healthy dose of challenge.

I immediately returned to the US. Put a team together. A friend who had played with Atlanta Falcons and ran a semi-pro football team in Atlanta introduced me to a number of sport agents, which led to an introduction to a major sports management group based in NY. I quickly engaged the group to put a league and marketing plan together, a $75k project. My team in Atlanta put the business plan together, and within 30 days, we were armed with a pitch document. I went into sport equity market pitched several equity firms, leveraging my businesses, and i successfully secured a $750m letter of credit (LOC) with terms to draw subject to the issuance of license promised by the minister.

I returned to Abuja and the minister was presented with LOC, I have never seen a black man turned white before, as he could not believe I had an LOC for $750m. I assured him we would supplement the funding with a licensing fee to be issued to 10 club owners at $25ml each, which would complete the $1bl guaranteed to the minister.

The league will fund $50ml to each team, creating a $75ml escrowed capital to launch each club

Leaving us with $250ml to develop the league

We began to test the market for broadcast licensing agreements to fund our LOC payback. Interest was strong and the numbers made sense.

There are more people watching soccer games in Nigeria on a Saturday than the UK, Germany, and France combined. The export market for Nigerian soccer league games across the globe is mature. There would be little or no distance between us and Brazil if we did things right.

Nigeria was licensing Euro soccer games and exporting foreign exchange and to me reversing that trend was a personal objective.

We submitted our business and marketing plan to the minister, including economic impact. He was excited and all on board. The secretary to the Ministry of Sport was on vacation while all these were going on. The legal department engaged us, and an agreement to issue a license was put in place. Negotiation ensued and terms agreed upon. "It's execution time" just needed the secretary to return from vacation.

USL (United Soccer League) was about to be a reality.

We would take over existing federal and state stadiums for 10 clubs and bring them up to international standards with corporate suites.

We were going to leverage the first year of broadcast license to attract retired BIG name international stars like Ronaldinho, Kaka for 1 yr contract or borrow some international star to help launch the league. The clubs making up the league would have to bid to join our first year.

We set our season opposite European league to give us room to grow with minimal competition for our audience.

This was an exciting development for me as things moved along.

Secretary to the ministry returned, and our discussion on agreement was now at his desk, expecting things to move forward. Then came the jolt from all directions.

Suddenly, there was talk about buying the existing NFL, something I vehemently opposed. You can't take a bad product and wrap it in a new package and expect the audience to buy it. There is a reason the NFL is not captivating the attention of Nigerians, but we can help it develop, not acquire it.

Also, we feared we would run into conflict with existing, compromised structure under the control of entrenched personalities.

We offered to put $50ml into the NFL to improve it and allow it to feed players into the USL (United Soccer League) which would increase the value of the NFL and we would share stadium with them to improve value of their broadcast license fees.

Not only would we have triggered massive, minor league development across the country, we would have develop local stars to international status, with similar benefits as enjoyed abroad, retirement programs, health coverage, multi million naira contracts, super star statuses.

I remember introduction to the great Kanu by an assistant to VP Osinbajo and a few other greats in the football space in Nigeria. The excitement was definitely brewing.

I had people working on both sides of the Atlantic working on league rules, marketing, retail licensing, security, trademarks, and other intellectual rights.

Then, the bomb shell. The secretary of the ministry decided to send the agreement to outside parties for review.

It was the last I ever saw the agreement. The agreement left the building and never came back. Inquiries after inquiries yielded nothing.

I was disillusioned, I had put my credibility on the line for the LOC. I had triggered costly activities at numerous organizations locally in Nigeria and in the US.

Suddenly, I got a call from an unknown number. It was a male voice on the other line.

Who is this I asked.

Response : Oga it's not important, I just want to tell you that things will go well if you can at least leave 5% of this project for the people at the ministry.

I was stunned left speechless for about 60 seconds

5% of $750ml is $37.5ml where on earth do you hide that on your books and how do you allocate and describe that expense to your investors.

That was the end of my soccer project in Nigeria. I promised I would not participate in corruption in Nigeria and stood by it.

2 years later, I completed my primary and robust project for Nigeria. Tested and approved to launch in 2019. 45 days before the launch date, a demand came forward that could have easily put me on the radar with the US government and in violation of the US foreign corrupt practices act. I declined.

2 weeks before we were to launch the project for Nigeria, I was verbally advised that the head honcho has decided to stop the project. He was no longer interested. It was no longer about Nigerians. It was about his personal interest and decision.

The cost to me personally was significant financially, with several million dollars just discarded by head honcho of the government agency. I also lost a network of investors and sustained damaged credibility with one of the largest sports equity funds in the US

I left Nigeria and promised only to return for family matters only.

Nigeria died inside me.

To all those who want to criticize Diaspora, please understand that many of us tried and, in many ways, failed. You, the people, just don't know or hear about the sacrifices we make. It's a horror show.

We love our country as much as you do. When you say we are online and just posting and agitating, there are reasons for it.

Nigeria is a crime scene, a burial ground for our investments, life savings, and retirement.

Stop judging us if you don't know the whole story.”

it's a fake story...

each team in Holland's Eredivisie gets 5 million euros per year, while the winner gets about 10 million euros....

Nobody will give 10 Nigerian clubs $50m each... it is not feasible.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 9:04pm On Jan 06, 2023
Odunayaw:
True to your behavior you just slap names around and think you're making a point

To Ogbu, it's a step up. Pays and perks in Slavia may be 10X what he got in Scandinavia.

On the other hand you cannot tell us the pay and perks offered to Awaziem that he turned down.

Now stop belly dancing about. Awaziem is a good play and do me a favor and put up a better argument
it’s only a sentimental and emotional fan will turn blind eye to reality and facts

If awaziem was as good as you believe he should be atleast in a mid table club in Spain,Germany or even France

And mind you I don’t just mention nor list players based on clubs they play or league but how good they re and the qualities they will bring to the national team

You are just being sentimental and emotional

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 9:04pm On Jan 06, 2023
Danielnino00:


Amidst all the Awaziem slander, the guy has not really been a disaster in the national team...Heck, if we are to rank our defenders by their national team performance in the last 5 years, he would rank better than some players .

Na bad agent/advisor him get...
Awaziem has been decent in GWG.

The time I thought he'd make his biggest break was his time in France

I don't think anyone can boldly say he can't walk into a decent club in the Top 10 leagues in Europe
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 9:05pm On Jan 06, 2023
charlesemeka85:
it’s only a sentimental and emotional fan will turn blind eye to reality and facts

If awaziem was as good as you believe he should be atleast in a mid table club in Spain,Germany or even France

And mind you I don’t just mention nor list players based on clubs they play or league but how good they re and the qualities they will bring to the national team

You are just being sentimental and emotional
This is where you will expose yourself

All things being equal (In terms of pay). Can Awaziem easily find a team in Top 10 leagues of Europe?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 9:09pm On Jan 06, 2023
jihday:
Unrelated: Besiktas want to return Dele Alli to Everton but Everton don’t want him back so he’ll likely finish the season in Turkey. This guy have really fallen off.
Speaking as someone who enjoys Nollywood and Yoruba movies especially, he should go and reconcile with his parents cool cool

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 9:22pm On Jan 06, 2023
BascoVanVeli:
Nigeria Women’s League.

Delta queens vs Naija Ratels. A bunch of our U17 girls on display and great goals scored.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc4tu-PV9kM

That lady on the touchline celebrating Mary's Goal though... cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 9:48pm On Jan 06, 2023
charlesemeka85:
it’s only a sentimental and emotional fan will turn blind eye to reality and facts

If awaziem was as good as you believe he should be atleast in a mid table club in Spain,Germany or even France

And mind you I don’t just mention nor list players based on clubs they play or league but how good they re and the qualities they will bring to the national team

You are just being sentimental and emotional

So out of all the players you have hyped and recommended for the super eagles,how many of them have brought any kind of quality to the team? The team is already filled with a good number of the players you have recommended to the team, yet where's the improvement? It is Awaziem that's your problem..
You won't talk about Akpos that you said we should swallow our pride and recall..We don recall am, we don see am, you self know say he no offer anything new so you're suggesting new names cheesy

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 10:23pm On Jan 06, 2023
Danielnino00:


So out of all the players you have hyped and recommended for the super eagles,how many of them have brought any kind of quality to the team? The team is already filled with a good number of the players you have recommended to the team, yet where's the improvement? It is Awaziem that's your problem..
You won't talk about Akpos that you said we should swallow our pride and recall..We don recall am, we don see am, you self know say he no offer anything new so you're suggesting new names cheesy

He loves recycling foreign names, we go invite dem soonest

If dem play for some few months now...another supplementary list will come out from emeka for another invite and d cycles keeps going grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 10:27pm On Jan 06, 2023
Iwobi injured embarassed
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 10:27pm On Jan 06, 2023
Iwobi twisted his ankle. Carried off the pitch on stretcher. He could be out for the whole season. It's Nwakali's time!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 10:28pm On Jan 06, 2023
AndSunGorilla:

Speaking as someone who enjoys Nollywood and Yoruba movies especially, he should go and reconcile with his parents cool cool
Fact! Urgently needed!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:15pm On Jan 06, 2023
elyte89:


He loves recycling foreign names, we go invite dem soonest

If dem play for some few months now...another supplementary list will come out from emeka for another invite and d cycles keeps going grin

New names everyday,.. If he becomes the super eagles coach,na new starting eleven we go dey see every match..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:16pm On Jan 06, 2023
Really hoping Iwobi's injury isn't too serious...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by solonnachi: 11:23pm On Jan 06, 2023
maidaboi:
Iwobi injured embarassed

OMG!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 2:03am On Jan 07, 2023
1st point: Skeletal maturity differs from one race to another. The article in question, which apparently FIFA based their decision to adopt the MRI on suggested this in the first picture, in which case they were referring to a study in Malawi. They didn ot ocnduct studies of their own in the Sub-Sahara. They only sampled Algeria in North Africa. Scientific American suggested FIFA based their decision on this study, and they are very likely correct, because at least the first author on that paper Jiri Dvorak was on Fifa's medical team.

In one of your later posts you suggested that FIFA considered every race, but how do you know this? The most important study that informed their decision didn't sample and Sub Saharan country. For a decision as important as this by a governing body such as FIFA, you better be sure you have colelcted data across board. Besides the sample size although reasonable, is quite small, reasonable becos the correlations are not that different from those published by the studies they referenced.

The only way to account for the delay in maturity observed in a sample of Sub-Saharan African countres is to use different standards for Europeans and Subsaharan Africans. Nothing shows that this is the case. FIFA is clearly applying the European standard to Sub-saharan Africans.

Figure 2 shows the average age for each grade, Grade VI being complete fusion. Even for their small sample size they recorded a mean of 18.3 for complete fusion. This is based on their study on 4 countries, none of which is in Sub-sahara African. If complete Fusion is over 18(Standard deviaiton of approximately 1) for these countries, anyone who can do some statistical analysis and knows that skeletal development is delayed in Sub-saharan would guess that the mean for Sub-saharan Africans would be around 20. It's not so hard.

So it's quite easy to conclude that Sub-saharan players around 20/21 would most probably pass the test. The study across Algeria, Malaysia, Algeria, Switzerland is not accurate, not to talk of Sub-saharan Africans with delayed skeletal maturity.

A further study published in the South African Journal of Sports Medicine concluded that there's no correlation between chronological age and grade of fusion for a sample of Ghanaian players(3rd Figure), meanwhile the study FIFA depended on reported correlation for the countries they sampled. Very interesting. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/dear-fifa-there-is-no-scientific-test-to-prevent-age-fraud/

Meanwhile the sample size across board although reasonable is quite small honestly.

Is the method reasonable, yes. Is it able to identify players who are about 20 and above? most probably yes. You are overestimating the accuracy of the MRI test. Before you conclude that FIFA considered everything, ask for the bases of their decision to use. You don't seem to have any idea.

So even though i hate that Scientific American used a picture of one of our youth teams as cover, i don't disagree with them, as in the third picture. it's not foolproof.https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/dear-fifa-there-is-no-scientific-test-to-prevent-age-fraud/
TheGoodJoe:


Unfortunately, you are yet to make a point.

What is the point you are trying to make?

What part of parts of the article supports the point you are trying to make?

Still waiting.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:20am On Jan 07, 2023


Calvin Bassey: Premier League clubs rejected me – Rangers and Ajax proved them wrong

Having failed to make cut with Leicester, Calvin Bassey has enjoyed the ‘surreal’ experience of playing in the Champions League with Ajax


As we sit down to talk in his Amsterdam-Zuid apartment, Calvin Bassey has a replay of his first encounter with PSV Eindhoven on the big screen in his living room, which still has the furnishings of the landlord. The move to Ajax has been such a whirlwind, there has been no time to decorate.

“This was a fiery match,” says Bassey. “It felt like a Celtic-Rangers match.”

Bassey presses pause after explaining how good Dusan Tadic is. He starts telling his own journey to playing for one of the biggest clubs in Europe a little over two years after playing for Leicester City’s Under-23s and not having a senior appearance to his name.

The path to playing Champions League football – his first experience of it he describes as an out-of-body experience – started on the buses and trains of London, where Bassey was living in Newham and played football informally until his mid-teens. There was a high chance he would have slipped through the cracks without the help of his coaches.

CrownPro Elite or Pro Touch Soccer Academy are a world away from the heavy investment of Premier League Academies but offered the likes of Bassey somewhere to play.



Bassey has made a new home for himself in Amsterdam CREDIT: Paul Grover/The Telegraph

When a coach moved to CM Futsul Academy, Bassey followed him and football went from fun with friends to the possibility of a career. Such was the impact on his life, he is currently raising funds for coach travel for kids to play at his old club.

“I didn’t have any other option at the time, I just enjoyed playing football,” Bassey explains. “I didn’t know at the time how seriously I wanted to take it. I didn’t think about becoming a pro. That was my first proper taste of football. It was fun and different. Before that it was just on the street, anywhere I could play.


“I remember playing in Dartford, it was a two-and-a-half hour round trip with my mates. We’d train from 6pm to 8pm, then get a train and a bus back to be home for about 10pm. If there was a bus to go to training and back, it would help the parents more. The parents would feel the kids are safer with someone they trust taking them.”

‘I thought: How can the same club reject me twice?’

It was during those teenage years that Bassey was rejected by a number of clubs, which was the fuel for him to carry on with professional football. Each step, from Leicester’s Academy to Rangers, from Scottish Premier League title-winner to Ajax – it came with a determination to prove wrong those who turned him down.

“Being the underdog has been a constant theme in my career,” he says. “The hardest part was probably Charlton at 14 or 15. I had trials twice and the second time I felt I had a chance but it wasn’t to be. I just thought ‘how can I go to the same club twice and get rejected?’ That one hurt a bit. It’s a bit sore.

“They didn’t think I would be where I am today. Rejection is a part of the game, but I’ve always had that desire to prove the people that doubted me wrong.”

Leicester did give Bassey his chance in their Academy, moving swiftly after Wolves and Crystal Palace had looked at him. But there his progression came at a swift rate, too fast at a club with a settled first-team under Brendan Rodgers. Rangers had seen a gem they were willing to polish in Scotland.

“We played Rangers and Andy King went on loan. He said they might come in on loan in January,” he says. “I told my agent about it. It was timely really as my contract was running out. Leicester wanted to keep hold of me but I felt I was ready to make that next step and play men's football.

“I knew I was ready and couldn’t see the opportunity with Leicester at the time. They were flying with the likes of Ben Chilwell and Christian Fuchs, the competition was very high.”

‘Gerrard helped me step out of comfort zone’
Bassey tells a funny story about playing under Steven Gerrard at Rangers, where he was introduced to men’s football. “We did an 11 v 11 and he was getting about, tackling people. Ryan Kent tried to drop a shoulder and do a step-over and he got him with a good clean tackle,” he says.



Bassey says he learned how to train better while under the tutelage of Steven Gerrard at Rangers CREDIT: Russell Cheyne/Reuters


“He could definitely still spray it about, he just couldn’t run as fast as he used to! And his team won! We saw that passion. It was like he was playing for a place in the team. He only played five or 10 minutes but it was crazy.”

The making of Bassey was under Gerrard giving him a run in the first team and learning from his older team-mates.


“I didn’t realise how big a club it is until I got there. It is ruthless,” he says. “A lot of people asked me why I was going there. The manager at Leicester liked me and wanted to know why I wanted to leave. I was so in my comfort zone at Leicester. Rangers gave me the opportunity to step out of that comfort zone and it also helped me to grow up as a player and a man.

“I went from being one of the best U23s, training with the first team and being comfortable, then into the changing room with bigger personalities than me, older grown men. For them it’s not just a bit of fun. It is their livelihood and they take it seriously. Training wasn’t about going in and just having banter with the guys, it was about coming into training 15 minutes early and training hard every day to get better.

“They told me because I’m young so I had to give the most energy. You’re a kid, you shouldn’t even be on the massage bed! It is banter but there is truth there.”

‘You have to keep believing in yourself and keep pushing’
When Premier League clubs showed interest – Brighton in particular wanted him – it looked like a return to England for him. He did not think Ajax’s interest would solidify into a bid but Klaas-Jan Huntelaar, who is on the Dutch giants’ staff, led the pursuit of a deal.

“I never thought Ajax would come in but when they did, it made the most sense,” he says. “Anyone in the world who follows football can tell you Ajax’s playing style. There are so many greats and when you look around the changing rooms, there are photos of when they made their debuts.

“Training is more tactical. More positioning, where you need to be defensively. But at the same time the technical work is just in tighter areas.”


Bassey returned to Ibrox in November with Ajax in the Champions League group games CREDIT: Ian MacNicol/Getty Images

He has been tasked to step in for Lisandro Martínez after his departure to Manchester United, which has been a steep learning curve in a new league. His Champions League debut was a surreal experience.


“I felt I was watching myself on TV as a kid, but at the same time the kid me could feel how I felt,” he says. “It was so weird. It was surreal. Regardless of what happened, it was such a proud moment for me and for everyone on the journey with me, because they know it has been far from straightforward.

“The amount of rejections I’ve got and the amount of people that have doubted me, it just goes to show that you can’t give up. You have to keep believing in yourself and keep pushing.”

From Forest Gate to the Champions League has been surreal but was very real, even if it feels like watching on the big screen.


Source: Telegraph UK.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:23am On Jan 07, 2023
Serie A: Transfermrkt's Africa's Most Valuable XI in Italy featuring Osimhen and Lookman

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:07am On Jan 07, 2023
fabyom:
Iwobi twisted his ankle. Carried off the pitch on stretcher. He could be out for the whole season. It's Nwakali's time!

His team is in the MEDIOCRITY percentile of the Segundo division and is near bankrupt.

Unfortunately there is zero interest for him in January window. And although his wages are a pittance in football ⚽ terms. His options are to go lower in mediocrity.

I would have suggested English league two but not sure he can cope. It's probably going to be Segunda División B, he might get a good non-league in England.

Yes it's TIME for him to go Lower into obscurity

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Karlovych: 4:18am On Jan 07, 2023
Philosopher1979:


Nwakali case will be like Godwin Saviour, china akpom, Sadiq Umar etc. Players like this hit their potential when they are over 23.
Slow and steady wins the race
None of those players are like Nwakali, Umar was at Partizan banging in goals, Akpom was at Greece also scoring goals, Godwin was in Belgium's second division scoring goals. Below is Godwin Saviour's stat and Nwakali's stat this season.
The latter has 9 peecent goal participation so far this season.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by iamdynamite(m): 4:46am On Jan 07, 2023
komekn:


His team is in the MEDIOCRITY percentile of the Segundo division and is near bankrupt.

Unfortunately there is zero interest for him in January window. And although his wages are a pittance in football ⚽ terms. His options are to go lower in mediocrity.

I would have suggested English league two but not sure he can cope. It's probably going to be Segunda División B, he might get a good non-league in England.

Yes it's TIME for him to go Lower into obscurity
this was the exact comment you made against VIctor osihmen, yet the guy prevailed against your hateful assertion..Just watch as Nwakali also proves you wrong.na here we go dey

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by comodo: 4:51am On Jan 07, 2023
Karlovych:
None of those players are like Nwakali, Umar was at Partizan banging in goals, Akpom was at Greece also scoring goals, Godwin was in Belgium's second division scoring goals. Below is Godwin Saviour's stat and Nwakali's stat this season.
The latter has 9 peecent goal participation so far this season.
Comparing apples and oranges.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Karlovych: 5:09am On Jan 07, 2023
comodo:

Comparing apples and oranges.
His current market value is 700k Euros and the highest it has ever been is 1 million Euros. In modern football that is very poor. His numbers likewise are also quite poor.

When Umar was struggling at Rangers he left to a place where he can get the needed numbers and so far his career trajectory has been upward including his market value.

Same with Osimhen that left Wolfsburg for Charleroi in Belgium to get his numbers up.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 8:05am On Jan 07, 2023
ChrisKels:


I'm my book, Emeka Iroegbu is more talented than Jude Bellingham. Bellingham doesn't strike me as someone who would last on the scene.
i see him as a Dele Alli kind of player.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 9:24am On Jan 07, 2023
cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
komekn:


His team is in the MEDIOCRITY percentile of the Segundo division and is near bankrupt.

Unfortunately there is zero interest for him in January window. And although his wages are a pittance in football ⚽ terms. His options are to go lower in mediocrity.

I would have suggested English league two but not sure he can cope. It's probably going to be Segunda División B, he might get a good non-league in England.

Yes it's TIME for him to go Lower into obscurity
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 9:27am On Jan 07, 2023
elyte89:


He loves recycling foreign names, we go invite dem soonest

If dem play for some few months now...another supplementary list will come out from emeka for another invite and d cycles keeps going grin
weda una like am or not awaziem is crap languishing in an obscure league at the ripe age of 24

Ndi uchu!

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