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Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by emerged01(m): 11:19am On Nov 08, 2017 |
Is it misconception to believe that all the people who believe in Jesus Christ will make Heaven? According to JW,God selects a limited number of faithful Christians who, after their death, will be resurrected to life in heaven. (1 Peter 1:3, 4) Once they have been chosen, they must continue to maintain a Christian standard of faith and conduct in order not to be disqualified from receiving their heavenly inheritance.—Ephesians 5:5; Philippians 3:12-14. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by OtemSapien: 1:19pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
No, millions, if not billions will make heaven except if they don't want to be their due to its boredom. |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by emerged01(m): 5:27pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
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Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by capitalzero: 6:25pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
OtemSapien: no. billions will live forever on Earth because Earth not heaven has been given to sons of men. 3 Likes |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by obinna58(m): 9:19pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
Bible is just a fabrication lies and history No one is going to hell or heaven after death 5 Likes |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by akeensbussy(m): 10:23pm On Nov 08, 2017 |
Heaven and Hell : either Everybody is going there or nobody is going there...but one thing I no be say na hell sure pass for everybody....According to the bible. Our righteousness is like a filthy Rag before him (God). |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by CAPTIVATOR: 8:55pm On Jan 15, 2020 |
capitalzero: Thank you o 1 Like |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Kobojunkiee: 3:55am On Jan 20, 2023 |
emerged01:I am afraid you are mixing teachings up left and right. What John wrote of the 144,000 is not that they alone will make it into Heaven. Instead, the 144,000 were the first batch who were marked and sealed by God and then sent out into the world to gather back the lost sheep of Israel, the descendants of Israel who were cursed and scattered by God from every tongue, every language, every race of people and every nation on the earth — the multitude of people who will make up God's Kingdom of Priests to rule the world in His Name. While the 144,000 — all of them Israelites — are guaranteed Heaven at the end, the multitude — all of them also Israelites — that was gathered back to God by them is not. But when judgment day finally arrives, the 144,000 and the multitudes will be judged by God, some bound for eternal reward(Heaven) whereas others will be bound for eternal damnation(the Lake of fire or Hell). |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:34am On Jan 20, 2023 |
God never designed heaven for humans it's the earth that He purposely created for us to live {Psalms 115:16} when preparing the earth for His first human Son (Adam) God created so many things to beautify earth in preparation for the birth of His son! Luke 3:38 The birds, animals, insects, microorganisms and many more are fleshy creatures made from the same material God used to make man {Ecclesiastes 3:20 compare to Genesis 2:7} man is the only wise creature that's why he's said to be made in God's image! Genesis 1:26-28 The idea of selected few going to live in heaven is due to Jesus' request. Jerusalem is the cite where the world government house was supposed to have been built {Isaiah 2:3} but the Israelites treated God's messengers in their midst with contempt {Matthew 23:37-38} so God's son declared that Israel has lost that privilege of being God's chosen nation! Matthew 21:43 Jesus' disciples became devastated in learning about this so he encouraged them to continue in the things he taught them and promised them that though Jerusalem will no longer be the center of God's government {Matthew 23:1-5} but due to his love for this faithful Jews who stood by him through thick and thin he will petition his father on their behalf so that they may continue to be with him forever where he is {John 14:1-3} so since Jesus must return to his own home in the spirit realms {John 8:23} he's supposed to be directing his co-rulers from heaven through God's Holy Spirit {Matthew 18:20} but he decided to take them home to himself so that they will rule over the earth from there. 1Thessalonians 4:17 God's purpose initially was for Jacob's children to become co-rulers with the Christ but when the Christ arrived the Israelites rejected him just as their forefathers have always treated God's messengers sent to them {Luke 11:47-51} Jesus later used the illustration of a King who set a wedding feast for his son to teach the Israelites that God has given faithful individuals from other nations the invitation to become co-rulers with the Christ's! Read ~ Matthew 22:1-14 So in the Bible book of Revelation where 12,000 individuals is to be taken from each of twelve tribes of Israel to be enlisted for Christ's heavenly government Jesus made it clear that people from other nations will be opportuned to become his co-rulers in heaven. Please if you want to confirm this crosscheck the names of the original twelve sons of Jacob (Israel) as recorded @ Exodus 1:1-3 and compare to the names Jesus mentioned @ Revelations 7:5-8. You will discover that names some sons of Jacob was omitted! So it's the 144,000 individuals who will rule with the Christ that are to be taken to heaven and God never chose a single person that has not been taught by the Christ that's why Jesus could say: "Truly I say to you, among those born of women, there has not been raised up anyone greater than John the Baptist, but a lesser person in the Kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is" Matthew 11:11 This shows that all the people that lived before John the baptist aren't part of this group because they were never taught Jesus' system of government but they will all be resurrected back to perfect life when God's Kingdom takes over the earth. Daniel 12:13 compare to Job 14:13-15 Thanks, God bless you and may you have PEACE! emerged01: 4 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by ictplotter(m): 5:52am On Jan 20, 2023 |
Kobojunkiee:Stop misleading yourself and people, it was clearly stated in the book of Revelation chapter 14, that it's only 144,000 that will make heaven. This present colonial Masters imposed Bible on us is a trash n fallacy. 1 Like
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Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by tctrills: 6:21am On Jan 20, 2023 |
emerged01:Do you realize that no single verse in the entire bible indicates the number of people who will make heaven? Anyway, I love your honesty, you said according to JW and not according to Christ. 1 Like |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by tctrills: 6:32am On Jan 20, 2023 |
Forget this talk about the number of people to enter heaven. Jesus Christ has already told you what to do to qualify for heaven. You need to be born of water and the spirit. You need to overcome. Just do your part and you will qualify for his kingdom. |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by sonmvayina(m): 7:35am On Jan 20, 2023 |
All these are all Christian fabrications.. Earth was created for man to dwell. When man " dies" how body returns to dust and becomes part of the earth while his breath or spirit becomes part of God and becomes one with it... |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Kobojunkiee: 10:34am On Jan 20, 2023 |
ictplotter:You are obviously reading that book upside-down-inside-out. The passage you quoted there does not state that only the 144,000 will enter into Heaven. Verse 1 states that the 144,000 stood with the Lamb on Mount Sion. Since when did Mount Sion on earth become synonymous with Heaven? The rest of the passage speaks of the 144,000 having been the first fruits redeemed by the Lamb meaning that there were others who were redeemed as well. The 144,000 were the first who were marked by Jesus Christ and sealed as well so they were guaranteed Heaven from their beginning. Then they were sent out to all corners of th earth to.teach God's New Covenant and Law to all their brothers and sisters -- Israel --- in every tribe, every tongue and every nation of the earth. 1 Like |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Lukuluku69(m): 12:50pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
emerged01: The person that wrote that part claiming inspiration is a Religious Retar.d. |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by oteneaaron(m): 1:09pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
During my days as a Jehovahs Witness, we were taught that these 144,000 "annointed" are made up of Jehovahs Witnesses who would rule with Jesus in heaven over all mankind. We were also taught that these 144,000 are the true "born again Christians" and they would be at the side of Jesus when he comes back to kill billions of people who are not Jehovahs Witnesses in the war of Armageddon. Back then, we were taught that only this 144,000 are part of the "new covenant" and therefore only them could eat and drink the bread and wine served during the memorial of Jesus's death. We were also taught that these only 144,000 are the true "sons of God" while the rest of us were only "friends of God". Looking back, I find it hard to imagine that I used to believe in such crap doctrines of men. Well, that is what years of endless indoctrination does to you. Religion is such a powerful tool for mind control. 4 Likes |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Janosky: 1:45pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
oteneaaron: Werey atheist idolizing Godlessness & misrepresentation of Bible truth. Hug your delusion very tight. |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by oteneaaron(m): 2:16pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
Janosky: Lol. He calls it a "misinterpretation". I know you can't speak without raining insults. It is your modus operandi. 1 Like |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Kobojunkiee: 2:38pm On Jan 20, 2023 |
akeensbussy:Only those who are born-again of the lost sheep of israel can end up on either of Heaven or Hell. Every body else cannot access those places. |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Kobojunkie: 9:08pm On Jan 22, 2023 |
oteneaaron:Kills billions of people who are not JWS? WHAT-THE-FK ! 2 Likes |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:19pm On Jan 22, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Kills everything living on dry land that's not in the Ark with Noah? WHAT-THE-FK! Kills everything living in Sodom and Gomorrah that's not with Lot? WHAT-THE-FK! Kills every firstborn in Egypt that's not with the Israelites? WHAT-THE-FK! The angels will surely kill everyone that's not JWs if all the above did happened through the actions of the same God! Luke 17:26-30
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Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Kobojunkie: 11:58pm On Jan 22, 2023 |
This is some serious levels of mindfuckery, believing Jesus Christ who made it known that He only came for the Israelites and israelites alone — even God's Judgement has been against His own Israel from the get-go— would come back to annihilate all those who this JW cult group loves to hate on, and basically, the entire earth will be no more than a gigantic graveyard while one 144,000 cult members rejoice. WOW! This one na serious-levels-of-FK religious ideas. 1 Like
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Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by oteneaaron(m): 1:21am On Jan 23, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Oh Yes. I kid you not. This is a FUNDAMENTAL teaching of Jehovahs Witnesses. According to the Jehovah Witness doctrine, during the war of Armageddon, Jesus and the 144,000, will destroy billions of people who are not Jehovahs Witnesses. After the war of Armageddon, one of their responsibilities will be to bury billions of dead bodies. I dare any JW to deny this. This what they won't tell you the first time they visit your home smiling and telling you they bring you the "goodnews of God's kingdom". That is why JWs are proud and condescending when relating with people of other religions - they see you as heading for slaughter. Some of them even look forward to when they will inherit the lavish homes of some rich people who will be killed off during the war of Armageddon.
Aemmyjah, Janosky, MaxInDHouse, Cornelboy is this a lie? 1 Like |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by oteneaaron(m): 1:26am On Jan 23, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Lol You actually sound surprised. This is a FUNDAMENTAL doctrine of Jehovahs Witnesses. This why they kept churning out fake prophecies over the past 140 years. They predicted that this destruction would happen in - 1914 - it failed 1925 - it failed 1975 - it still failed But they ain't giving up. Become a Jehovahs Witness or risk been killed by Jesus and the 144,000. 1 Like |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Kobojunkie: 4:38am On Jan 23, 2023 |
oteneaaron:OMG ....WHAT THE HECK! I seriously did not know of this part before today. This is some serious Jim Jones-level shite there.... |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by oteneaaron(m): 5:27am On Jan 23, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Hahahaha Now you know. They won't tell you this when they meet you in your home or on the street sharing their tracts and magazines. During my days as a Jehovahs Witness, this doctrine never really sat well with me. I kept wondering, how will "God" kill of billions of people, even babies - just because they're not JWs? 2 Likes |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by oteneaaron(m): 5:45am On Jan 23, 2023 |
Below is a video that contains a 10 minute recording of a 2007 talk by Bethel Speaker Ciro Aulicino that graphically describes the massacre that Witnesses like MaxInDHouse, Janosky and Aemmyjah look forward to. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDQED18toXU CC - Kobojunkie 1 Like |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:34am On Jan 23, 2023 |
oteneaaron: What a foolish liar you are Son of the devil himself Son of the Father of the lie I pity your children. Hopefully they won't imitate their lying dad. Courz No evidence to even back up your lie Drop any article of ours or link to OUR videos, not youtube that people use to spread propaganda Foolish liar Those who believe you are equally foolish |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:41am On Jan 23, 2023 |
As what you don't know so that you can get the facts regarding what we believe instead of speculating without knowing what we have in mind. 144,000 are the born again Christians who are going to live with Christ in heaven but millions of JWs will be alive after Jesus has slaughtered all nonejws, we will destroy all the buildings you people set up that's not according to God's purpose and apportion lands for each survivor to build a home of his taste with his wife so that each person can have his own house and vineyard in Paradise on earth. It's after we've cleared all the corpses of faithless people that resurrection will start beginning with the JWs that died last, they will be the first to resurrect followed by those that died before them that's how it will continue until it reaches people like John the baptist, and other prophets of ancient times. As for Jesus' apostles and most of the ones whose names are recorded in the first century they are born again so they have gone to live in heaven as angels. If you need further clarification feel free to approach JWs in your neighbourhood but don't think your mockery or anger can change that it's our belief and it's unchangeable! Kobojunkie: 1 Like |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Techobeys: 8:15am On Jan 23, 2023 |
Has it ever crossed your mind that JW might be totally wrong on the subject?
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Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by oteneaaron(m): 10:16am On Jan 23, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Awwwn Poor Aemmyjah. I know you cannot speak without dishing out insults. Don't tell me you are ashamed of your beliefs because the FACTS are there. Well, you asked for evidence so here goes (from your own publications) - #1
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#4 Below is a video that contains a 10 minute recording of a 2007 talk by Bethel Speaker Ciro Aulicino that graphically describes the massacre that Witnesses like Aemmyjah look forward to. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDQED18toXU PS: There are more evidences from these came from. Cheers! 1 Like |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Aemmyjah(m): 10:21am On Jan 23, 2023 |
oteneaaron: Lol Shame on you Atheist trying to convince churchgoer, Kobojunkie with lies Those who are not on God's side, what will God to do them on his day of judgement. What will God to with Atheists? Show us proof we said we will inherit lavish mansions. Liar |
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