MaxInDHouse:
As what you don't know so that you can get the facts regarding what we believe instead of speculating without knowing what we have in mind.

144,000 are the born again Christians who are going to live with Christ in heaven but millions of JWs will be alive after Jesus has slaughtered all nonejws, we will destroy all the buildings you people set up that's not according to God's purpose and apportion lands for each survivor to build a home of his taste with his wife so that each person can have his own house and vineyard in Paradise on earth.

It's after we've cleared all the corpses of faithless people that resurrection will start beginning with the JWs that died last, they will be the first to resurrect followed by those that died before them that's how it will continue until it reaches people like John the baptist, and other prophets of ancient times.
As for Jesus' apostles and most of the ones whose names are recorded in the first century they are born again so they have gone to live in heaven as angels.

If you need further clarification feel free to approach JWs in your neighbourhood but don't think your mockery or anger can change that it's our belief and it's unchangeable!

Aemmyjah:


Lol
Shame on you
Atheist trying to convince churchgoer, Kobojunkie with lies
Those who are not on God's side, what will God to do them on his day of judgement. What will God to with Atheists?

Show us proof we said we will inherit lavish mansions. Liar

oteneaaron:


Poor Aemmyjah

Even your brother MaxInDHouse agrees that Jesus will kill billions of people who are not Jehovahs Witnesses during the war of Armageddon.

Aemmyjah doesn't even know the nitty gritties about his own organization.

Wahala oo

Aemmyjah:

Well, I'm not Max
Why tag me?

MaxInDHouse:
As what you don't know so that you can get the facts regarding what we believe instead of speculating without knowing what we have in mind.
144,000 are the born again Christians who are going to live with Christ in heaven but millions of JWs will be alive after Jesus has slaughtered all nonejws, we will destroy all the buildings you people set up that's not according to God's purpose and apportion lands for each survivor to build a home of his taste with his wife so that each person can have his own house and vineyard in Paradise on earth.
It's after we've cleared all the corpses of faithless people that resurrection will start beginning with the JWs that died last, they will be the first to resurrect followed by those that died before them that's how it will continue until it reaches people like John the baptist, and other prophets of ancient times.
As for Jesus' apostles and most of the ones whose names are recorded in the first century they are born again so they have gone to live in heaven as angels.

If you need further clarification feel free to approach JWs in your neighbourhood but don't think your mockery or anger can change that it's our belief and it's unchangeable!

oteneaaron:


Poor Aemmyjah

Even your brother MaxInDHouse agrees that Jesus will kill billions of people who are not Jehovahs Witnesses during the war of Armageddon.

Aemmyjah doesn't even know the nitty gritties about his own organization.

Wahala oo

oteneaaron:

Hahahahahaha
Such shame.
I hope you're ready to bury BILLIONS of none Jehovahs Witnesses who will killed off.
It is well known secret among JWs that after Armageddon, you guys will inherit lavish houses of none JWs who have been killed.
Why are so triggered?
Lol
E pain the guy.

MaxInDHouse:


Oteneaaron (Courz) doesn't know he's always missing vital information because of eagerness to criticize God's people due to his faithlessness.

Note the highlighted sentences and see how he jumped into conclusion without careful observation.










According to the highlighted do JWs wish to inherit lavish houses when each person will be given a portion to build his own house or we will demolish all the nonsense and ingredients they've erected out of greed?

So when i just ignore him with his clownish attitude i know he doesn't worth my time!

Aemmyjah:

He and Courz has never dropped anything useful in any thread on NL
So I forget them

Aemmyjah:
■Lol
Shame on you Atheist trying to convince churchgoer, Kobojunkie with lies.
■ Those who are not on God's side, what will God to do them on his day of judgement. What will God to with Atheists?
■Show us proof we said we will inherit lavish mansions. Liar

Kobojunkie:
I am not a churchian but you are,so?

Yes, irrespective of what your group choses to call its assembly, so long as you lot congregate or have meetings where you are share your many doctrines and traditions of men--- lies which Jesus Christ warned His followers to steer clear of ---, you are churchians, no different from other deluded churchians out there who teach lies using the name of God.

2. Jesus Christ made it clear in His sermons that His judgment on the goats in the Kingdom of God would be eternal damnation, this after judgment which which to take place after the 1000 year reign on earth. But you lot reject His teachings only so you can instead assert this ridiculous doctrine that proclaims Jesus Christ will return to annihilate billions of lives --- atheists, Muslims, Hindus, etc. who don't even believe in Him.

He is coming back to rule over the world using His nation of Priests which will be comprised only of Israelites - flesh and blood. If He were to eliminate all the billions of non-Israelites as your story Lords tell you instead, who would be left for He and His Kingdom of Priests to rule over? Themselves?

3. Proof you cannot inherit lavish mansions? So, you believe Jesus Christ will kill off billions in order that you may inherit lavish mansions?

Aemmyjah:
1. I am not a churchian. I am a Bible student. I am Emmanuel Gabriel, one of Jehovah's Witnesses... You have no organised group and you dish our confused teachings
2. On God's day, in the war of Armageddon, the wicked will be destroyed... During the 1000 year period. The billions of the dead will be resurrected both righteous and unrighteous. It was Jesus Christ himself that said so not me. Read John 5:28,29 and Acts 24:15
3. According to the prophecy of the Bible in Ezekiel, I can't recall the verse. The Bible says that in that day, there will be corpses from one end of the EARTH to another end. Jesus and his army will execute judgement on the earth. Confused atheistic christian

MaxInDHouse:
He's the same person behind the two accounts!

Courz:

I have told you that if you like, bundle me with 10 different monikers, it doesn't change the fact that you are in a Satanic Cult and that you are a Rapist.

Aemmyjah:



He and Courz has never dropped anything useful in any thread on NL
So I forget them

MaxInDHouse:
Come and arrest me nah!

Courz:


I have told you that if you like, bundle me with 10 different monikers, it doesn't change the fact that you are in a Satanic Cult and that you are a Rapist.

MaxInDHouse:
Oteneaaron!

Courz:

How many underaged children have you raped?

MaxInDHouse:
Come and arrest me!

Courz:

How many underaged children have you raped? What did Watchtower do to cover it up? Are you part of their coven?

MaxInDHouse:
Come and arrest me if you have evidence!

Kobojunkie:
1. As I said, you are no different from the churchians you lot like to hate on since all you offer are doctrines and traditions of men, lies fed you by other men like you in your gatherings, whatever you choose to call yourselves.

2. What foolish war of Armageddon are you yapping about now? So, you actually think that you can reasonably spew tales cobbled from the pages of delusions you have been fed by other men at me?

Stop spewing nonsense! Nowhere in scripture did Jesus Christ ever say He would come to kill billions of souls. He instead made it clear in His teachings that the righteous referred to the sheep and the unrighteous to the goats, all of them members of the Kingdom of God over which He rules. Stop lying!

3. Ezekiel never said Jesus Christ would execute billions of lives who do not believe in Him nor belong to His Kingdom. How can He, Ezekiel, say that when God's plan to rule is to use His Nation of Priests to do so over all who live on earth? Engage your brain abeg!

Aemmyjah:
■ I based everything I said from the Bible.
■ You are the one spewing lies that the 144000 were all Jews and all born agains must have jewish ancestry and these ones will stand on a literal mountain called zion. Have you seen such mountain today? All your claims is your own weak philosophy
■ What did Jesus Christ said he will do to those judged as goats? What is their destiny? Shamefully, the person pointing fingers at me does not even know what Armageddon is. I'm sure that you are still reading your bible and not gone beyond Genesis 1.
■ Ezekiel, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Malachi, Micah, David, Daniel, etc all made prophecies about the Christ. Some like Micah and Isaiah mentioned about his birth, others talked about what he will do on earth as Messiah, some talked about his death and resurrection. Some talked about what he will do as King of God's kingdom. I'm sure you must have read such prophecies. Jesus Christ will destroy the wicked as God's Chief Executioner. Maybe your Bible says that those judged as goats will be brought to your yard so you can take care of them

4. Then I heard how many people had God’s mark on their foreheads. There were 144,000. They were from every tribe of the people of Israel - Revelations 7 vs 4

6. “Don’t give something that is holy to dogs. They will only turn and hurt you. And don’t throw your pearls to pigs. They will only step on them. - Revelaons7 vs 6

24 Jesus answered, “God sent me only to the lost people[d] of Israel.” - Matthew 15 vs 24

5 Jesus sent the twelve men out with these instructions: “Don’t go to the non-Jewish people. And don’t go into any town where the Samaritans live.
6 But go to the people of Israel. They are like sheep that are lost. - Matthew 10 vs 5 - 6

1. Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, who was standing on Mount Zion. There were 144,000 people with him. They all had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads. - Revelations 14 vs 1

Kobojunkie:
1. As I said, you are no different from the churchians you lot like to hate on since all you offer are doctrines and traditions of men, lies fed you by other men like you in your gatherings, whatever you choose to call yourselves.

2. What foolish war of Armageddon are you yapping about now? [/b]So, you actually think that you can reasonably spew tales cobbled from the pages of delusions you have been fed by other men at me?

[b]Stop spewing nonsense! Nowhere in scripture did Jesus Christ ever say He would come to kill billions of souls. He instead made it clear in His teachings that the [b]righteous referred to the sheep and the unrighteous to the goats, all of them members of the Kingdom of God over which He rules. Stop lying! [/b]

3. Ezekiel never said Jesus Christ would execute billions of lives who do not believe in Him nor belong to His Kingdom. How can He, Ezekiel, say that when God's plan to rule is to use His Nation of Priests to do so over all who live on earth? Engage your brain abeg!

Janosky:
■Revelation 16:14,16 = Jeremiah 25 31-33 & 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9.
That's the fate of goats Jesus referenced in Matthew's gospel.
■How do you expect Jesus Christ to rule over unrighteous people when (the apostle Paul converted by Jesus) 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 is in your Bible?

oteneaaron:
Below is a video that contains a 10 minute recording of a 2007 talk by Bethel Speaker Ciro Aulicino that graphically describes the massacre that Witnesses like ....forward to.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDQED18toXU

6 “I will send fire against Magog and those people living along the coast. They think they are safe, but they will know that I am the Lord.
7 And I will make my holy name known among my people Israel. I will not let people ruin my holy name anymore. The nations will know that I am the Lord. They will know that I am the Holy One in Israel.
8 That time is coming! It will happen!” This is what the Lord God said. “That is the day I am talking about.
9 “At that time people living in the cities of Israel will go out to the fields. They will collect the enemy’s weapons and burn them. They will burn all the shields, bows and arrows, clubs and spears. They will use the weapons as firewood for seven years.
10 They will not have to gather wood from the fields or chop firewood from the forests because they will use the weapons as firewood. They will take the valuable things from the soldiers who wanted to steal from them. They will take the good things from the soldiers who took good things from them.” This is what the Lord God said.
11 “At that time I will choose a place in Israel to bury Gog. He will be buried in the Valley of the Travelers,[b] east of the Dead Sea. It will block the road for travelers, because Gog and all his army will be buried in that place. People will call it ‘The Valley of Gog’s Army.’
12 It will take seven months for the family of Israel to bury them. They must do this to make the land pure.
13 The common people will bury the enemy soldiers, and the people will become famous on the day that I bring honor to myself.” The Lord God said those things.
14 “Workers will be given a full-time job burying the dead soldiers to make the land pure. The workers will work for seven months. They will go around looking for dead bodies.
15 They will go around looking, and if anyone sees a bone, a marker will be put up by it. The sign will stay there until the gravediggers come and bury the bone in the Valley of Gog’s Army.
16 The city of the dead will be named Hamonah. In this way they will make the country pure.” - Ezekiel 39 vs 6 - 16

Kobojunkie:
1. So, according to you, Jesus Christ, who instead said that judgment for those who belong in the Kingdom of God— the goats and sheep alike — will take place only after He returns, lied? You are having us believe that the fate of the goats was decided over 2000 years ago, and the fate of the sheep will instead be determined later on, even though the narrative Jesus Christ gave has it that the Sheep will receive their reward before the goats receive theirs?

2. Your personal delusions regarding what Paul posited there in his letters aside, Jesus Christ's return during the millennial reign is to rule over the righteous of [b]God's Old Covenant — His rule then will be as King of Israel, not the Kingdom of God. The judgment of those who are of the Kingdom of God will, according to John, will take place after the 1000-year rule will have concluded. [/b]

God's promise to all of the righteous of the Old Covenant was clear that they would live a long life in the Land of Canaan which He promised to them — Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 — and Jesus Christ will come back during the millennial reign to fulfill that promise to all the righteous of Old. However, after the 1000-year rule is over, the judgment of the Kingdom of God will eliminate those of them who do not make the cut-off mark as far as the Kingdom of God — the goats — from among them. They may be found unrighteous as New Covenant is concerned, but that does not remove from the fact that they were made righteous under to Old Covenant Standard when Jesus Christ redeemed/bought them from the Old Law.

By the way, God's "Old Covenant" angry Judgment on the Nation of Judah — the destruction of Jerusalem along with the cursing and scattering of the rest of Israel, the Jewish Nation — began during the first century as prophesied by the Prophets and Jesus Christ Himself.

Janosky:
Oga, who taught and converted Paul?
Is Paul an apostle of kobojunkie?

Carry your foolishness out of this thread.

emerged01:
Is it misconception to believe that all the people who believe in Jesus Christ will make Heaven?
According to JW,God selects a limited number of faithful Christians who, after their death, will be resurrected to life in heaven. (1 Peter 1:3, 4) Once they have been chosen, they must continue to maintain a Christian standard of faith and conduct in order not to be disqualified from receiving their heavenly inheritance.—Ephesians 5:5; Philippians 3:12-14.

TenQ:

An INTRODUCTION of the 144,000 in White Robes

1. They were Men
2. They were Virgins
3. They are First fruits to God and His Lamb
4. They are pure and without fault in speech

In addition these are SPECIFICALLY from the 12 tribes of Israel according to Rev 7:4-8:

MaxInDHouse:


©They are men means they are humans with a masculine heart they aren't indecisive like females do naturally. So they're not literal males.

©They are virgins they have never given total support to politics they only believe in God/God's

©They are the first set of humans that will gain everlasting life before anyone else.

©They always speak the truth no matter how bitter it is when it comes to worship.

©They are faithful people from different races throughout the earth not literal Israelites.
You can crosscheck the names of the original twelve tribes of Israel as written in the Bible book of Exodus 1:1-5 to be sure if it's the same as what John listed at Revelations 7:5-8

TenQ:

Follow the scriptures sir!
There is a specific reason the 144,000 were broken in groups of 12,000 for each of the tribes of Israel. This is not subject to any other reinterpretation sir.

Are the Multitudes from every nation ALSO before the THRONE with the 144,000?

Your doctrine of ONLY 144,000 in heaven breaks down sir

MaxInDHouse:


Let's take it step by step.

Have you checked the Exodus account of the original twelve tribes of Israel?

The multitude standing before the throne of God are on planet earth it simply means all of them will worship God in one accord when Satan, demons and false prophets are out of the way survivors will all worship Jehovah as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers. That's what it means!