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Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:57pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
TenQ: TenQ: I will like others to learn from the highlighted! In the beginning God created Adam and Eve but this two as a couple needs their privacy so God doesn't pay attention to them always after all they've been given FREEWILL that's why God could ask Cain "where is your brother?" {Genesis 4:9} after man's rebellion God's attention was taken away from mankind in general because their deeds saddens Him each day {Genesis 6:5-6} our happy God {1Timothy 1:11} can't withstand the evil done by humans to their neighbours {Habakkuk 1:13} that's why He empowered some angels with spiritual eyes all over their bodies {Ezekiel 10:12} these are the ones reporting to Him when a person decides to make a U-turn and start doing what is good, so when people are doing evil things don't think my God is present there it's only His eyes (angels serving as investigators) that are moving everywhere to report back to Him when man's evil deeds is getting out of hand! Genesis 18:20-21 But when all evildoers has been exterminated God will be present both in heaven with Jesus and his 144,000 co-rulers as well as on earth with the great crowd worshiping Him night and day. As at that time if anyone choose to be wicked our God will permit him or her to taste life in Paradise for just a hundred years and they will die as youths! Isaiah 65:20 God's throne in that context means God's PRESENCE! |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by TenQ: 4:22pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:I know that you are completely brainwashed: that was why the question was phrased as such, knowing that you will go tangent as usual. |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by MrPRevailer(m): 5:42pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
emerged01:The 144,000 Jews are the chosen remanants that God will hide in the wilderness from the Antichrist in the time of the Great Tribulation or Jacob's trouble. JW, Romans Catholism, Mormonism are false/counterfeit Christian religions |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Kobojunkie: 6:11pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
MrPRevailer:1. The 144,000 were chosen before God's final judgment was poured out on Jerusalem and the remnants of His Israel according to Revelations 7 vs 1 - 4. God sent them out of Jerusalem beginning almost 2000 years ago - Isaiah 66. And we know that the destruction of Jerusalem happened beginning around the same time. 2. God never gave men religion as instead He gave men His Law to obey. So there is no true "religion" from God. Instead there is God's Law and then there are religions, lies, fashioned by men using the name of God. |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:06pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
TenQ: Why not go and associate with those who are not brainwashed? JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES have spoken so it's either you take it or leave it there's no force in faith! |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:07pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
JWs are false/counterfeit! Why not present a better performing group of CHRISTIANS? MrPRevailer: |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by TenQ: 7:18pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:When people twist the clear scripture to say what humans will to say, we can at best show them the scripture even when we know that they wouldn't listen because they are already in the cage of Satan! |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Janosky: 7:41pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
TenQ:That's what you are doing on this thread forming woke when you know nothing . |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Janosky: 7:48pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
TenQ: The location of God's throne is in heaven, the Very throne king Solomon sits ,1 Chronicles 29:23. You are desperate to claim the multitude were in heaven but 1 Chronicles 29:23 burst your delusion. For the same reason that Psalm 95:6 & Ephesians 3:14 burst your delusion. Do you agree that Paul was in heaven bowing to the Father? Or David was in heaven bowing down and worship Jehovah? Max was right to explain to you that "standing before the throne" meaning in God's presence because @ Revelation 21:3 God himself will be with men (residing in the new earth ) because they are in His presence not seeing God face to face . @ Revelation 21:3-5 Is God dwelling on earth when God removes sickness, mourning and pain? This screenshot here says it all.
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Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Janosky: 7:59pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: 1 Chronicles 29:23 was God's throne visible on earth when King Solomon sat on it? |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Janosky: 8:02pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
MrPRevailer: Oga, where you see wilderness @Revelation chapter 14? It amounts to delusion to lump your Trinitarian mentors, the Catholic Church & Jehovah's servants. |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Janosky: 8:05pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Revelation 21:3-5 nah nemesis PROVEN that guy man delusion. |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Kobojunkie: 8:10pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
Janosky:So, you are trying to have us believe then that Solomon sat on God's throne in Heaven? 21 The next day the people offered sacrifices and burnt offerings to the Lord—1000 bulls, 1000 rams, 1000 lambs, and the drink offerings that go with them. They offered these and many other sacrifices to the Lord for all the Israelites.Stop using keyword search as a way to win arguments at the cost of understanding. Spend time reading and processing what is written for your own self at least. |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Janosky: 8:14pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
TenQ: Everyone on earth,as it were, are "standing before God's throne". A throne is always on elevated platform above all other objects, and seats or persons around it, that's the imagery Isaiah 66:1-2. Revelation 7:9-10 says the Multitude are "of all nations, kindred and languages." Is this truth not simple and straightforward for your grasp? |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Janosky: 8:24pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
Techobeys: John the Baptist NEVER went to heaven, Matthew 11:11 and John 3:13. It's naivety to assume that in the Revelation the terms "women/woman" is a reference to the opposite sex. Oga, are you ready to learn? Techobeys: Please, remove the rafters in your eyes. If Jesus gospel of Matthew 11:11 and John 3:13 is "indoctrination" in your eyes, please stick to your delusion. |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Janosky: 8:35pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
FxMasterz: Revelation 21:1-5 = Matthew 5:3,5. Oga, go and delete Revelation chapter 21:1-5 nau |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Janosky: 8:36pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Agreed. |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Kobojunkie: 8:44pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
TenQ:1. Again, conveniently omitting/ignoring all references that clearly tell a different story from that which you wish to perpetuate is the same as twisting scripture. 17 The Lord says, “These are the people who wash themselves and make themselves pure so that they can go into their special gardens[b] to worship their idols. They follow each other into the gardens to eat meat from pigs, rats, and other dirty things. But they will all be destroyed together.Above, the passage from the book of Isaiah references the same group of people written about in John's Revelation 7. The Specially marked people are the 144,000 that were sealed by God to go gather back to His holy mountain in Jerusalem, their brothers and sisters from every tribe, every tongue, and every nation of the earth — the multitude dressed in white. And as you can clearly see from the above passage, they will be brought to God's Holy temple in Jerusalem. 2. The Throne of God in Heaven is not in His temple in Heaven. I believe it is written somewhere in the Old Covenant that God designed His temple on earth as a replica of the one in Heaven. And if you clearly read through Isaiah, you will find that God speaks at length of restoring His Holy Jerusalem here on earth in order to clear His name. The restoration of Jerusalem has always been tied with the restoration of the temple in Jerusalem, God's Holy temple here on earth. By the way, even the throne in Jerusalem belongs to the King of the Jews, and you can guess who that is. However, the throne has been placed inside the temple. Not here on earth and certainly not in Heaven. |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Ken4Christ: 9:49pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: The scripture is so simple but you make it look complicated because you don't want to accept anything that contradicts your opinions. The kingdom of heaven is for every Believers in Christ. It's not limited to 144,000. The 144,000 are the elect Jesus spoke about in Matthew 24. They will not be affected by the the great tribulation that will befall the Jews. They will be raptured before the second coming of Christ. The present church has two badges that will make heaven. The first badge are the four beast before the throne of God. The second badge which could not be numbered are the ones that will go through great tribulation. These are the ones John saw in Revelation 7.9-17. |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Aemmyjah(m): 10:52pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
Janosky: You still de give these people attention? |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Ken4Christ: 10:55pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
So much ignorance on rampage on this tread. May God save young converts from being misled by the false teachers on Nairaland in the mighty name of Jesus. Amen. |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:19pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
TenQ: Is that not why i told you to leave those in Satan's cage so you can go and worship with those in your god's cage? |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by TenQ: 12:24am On Jan 29, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:SMH! Go find Christ while He's still near! |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by TenQ: 12:26am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Janosky:...And everyone is standing beside the four BEASTS and the 24 Elders and before the THRONE! I shake my head in amazement : what has Satan given you to eat!? 1 Like |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Kobojunkie: 12:52am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Ken4Christ:1. First of all, I never said the Kingdom of God is limited to the 144,000. John and Isaiah clearly revealed --- in Isaiah 66 and Revelation 7 --- that those who would have been redeemed by Jesus Christ are both the 144,000 and the multitude --- all of them born Israelites from their mother's womb ---meaning all of them are born-again. However, only the 144,000 who were previously sealed by God Himself have been guaranteed a place in Heaven even before judgment. The 144,000 will still have to pass through judgment day but God already gave them His marker ensuring that they will pass judgment. However, the multitude will have their fate decided on judgment day, which will take place after the millennial reign. 2. The 144,000 were chosen, marked and sent out by God from His Jerusalem before He then destroyed it almost 2000 years ago. 3. There is no such thing as what you imagine I am afraid. Also, none of those who cling to the religion that is Christianity aka Churchianism will make it into God's heaven, this since the religion is of AntiChrist roots. |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:13am On Jan 29, 2023 |
There are many Christs {Matthew 24:24} and i have chosen mine go and choose yours! TenQ: |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by TenQ: 8:05am On Jan 29, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:I knew it: You chose your own Christ which is unfortunate. The Lord Jesus Christ chose me Himself for Himself. It's a pity we are different in that respect. 2Ths 2:13: "But we are bound to give thanks always to God for you, brothers beloved of the Lord, because God has from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:" |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Janosky: 8:35am On Jan 29, 2023 |
TenQ: The issue with you is your love for arguments and tantrums when Bible truth is shown to you. Revelation 4:1-3,6,10 CURES YOUR TANTRUMS.. . The 24 elders are spirits in heaven. Therefore, Isaiah 66:1-2 very correct, we on earth are ,as it were, "standing before God's throne". Revelation 4:1-3,6,10 ,Oga read your Bible. Note the highlighted points therein. 1After this I looked and saw a door standing open in heaven. And the voice I had previously heard speak to me like a trumpet was saying, “Come up here, and I will show you what must happen after these things.” 2At once I was in the Spirit, and I saw a throne standing in heaven, with someone seated on it. 3The One seated there looked like jasper and carnelian, and a rainbow that gleamed like an emerald encircled the throne. 4Surrounding the throne were twenty-four other thrones, and on these thrones sat twenty-four elders dressed in white, with golden crowns on their heads. 5From the throne came flashes of lightning, and rumblings, and peals of thunder. Before the throne burned seven torches of fire. These are the seven Spirits of God. 6And before the throne was something like a sea of glass, as clear as crystal. In the center, around the throne, were four living creatures, covered with eyes in front and back. 10the twenty-four elders fall down before the One seated on the throne, and they worship Him who lives forever and ever. They cast their crowns before the throne, saying: |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by TenQ: 10:15am On Jan 29, 2023 |
Janosky:Why are you angry? I was only concurring with your position. According to you, ..The throne symbolises the presence of God and therefore ...And everyone ALSO is standing beside the four BEASTS and the 24 Elders and before the THRONE! Why are you angry? I'm only restating the implication of your position |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:10pm On Jan 29, 2023 |
Sorry i choose my own! Many are awaiting another Christ but i chose Jesus of Nazareth as Christ. So go worship with your fellow worshipers chosen by your Christ! TenQ: |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by TenQ: 5:23pm On Jan 29, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:You and I know that you chose an angel Michael as your own Jesus of Nazareth. It doesn't change anything though as you are free to choose even your governor as him. Too bad for you |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:37pm On Jan 29, 2023 |
TenQ: No matter whoever i choose is my own cup of coffee as long as everything Jesus of Nazareth promised regarding his group is evident in the midst of those with whom we chose him no problem. Go and worship with those chosen by your own Christ! |
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