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Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by TenQ: 5:40pm On Jan 29, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Too bad your Jesus is Micheal the angel. 1 Like |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:46pm On Jan 29, 2023 |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by TenQ: 6:02pm On Jan 29, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Empty barrels make the greatest noise! Jesus is the one who validates us and we serve Him as to receive His commendation ALONE! Just as an evidence to show that we serve completely different Jesus, here BELOW is Jesus instruction to us about our service to God Luk 17:10: "So likewise you, when you shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do." Of course, agents of Satan must boast about everything. Have a good night rest but repent! 1 Like |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:07pm On Jan 29, 2023 |
My Jesus is the Archangel Michael and we have seen so many works he is doing with imperfect humans! TenQ: |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by sagenaija: 6:42pm On Jan 29, 2023 |
TenQ: TenQ, The pair Janosky and MaximDHouse, and their type work from their DOGMA not from the Bible. An organization that adds words to the Bible shows itself for what it is - deceptive. These guys ignore context and every known way of biblical interpretation. What they do is take their dogma and superimpose it on any portion of the Bible. Everyone can see in those Revelation portions, "IN HEAVEN", and "BEFORE THE LAMB" but if it doesn't fit into their dogma they will refuse any claim that "in heaven" actually means literal heaven or "before the Lamb" actually means face to face with the Lamb. How TWISTERS of God's word see themselves as the best group on earth leaves one amazed at the depth of degeneracy the heart of man can descend. 2 Likes |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:13pm On Jan 29, 2023 |
Ọmọ all these are STORY! STORY!! STORY!!! The one and only organization of faithful people have spoken if you don't agree go and worship with a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses! James 2:18-26 sagenaija: |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by FxMasterz: 8:38pm On Jan 29, 2023 |
Janosky: What does inheriting the earth have to do with the 144,000? You probably quoted the wrong comment. Please read my post again. |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by TenQ: 8:40pm On Jan 29, 2023 |
sagenaija:Of course. The god of this world have blinded both their eyes and hearts to the truth of God's words. Their doctrine and their governing board are their replacement for the true God and Christ 2 Likes |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:07pm On Jan 29, 2023 |
TenQ: The Governing Body is the one and only proof that the Bible was inspired so if you only read books but can't point to practical application and benefits ọmọ you're just being credulous. Without the Governing Body i supposed to be an atheist by now because there's no evidence that what you're carrying up and down is true if we can't see a performing group! Act 1:8 1 Like |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by sagenaija: 11:31pm On Jan 29, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: So, you TWIST the Scripture and expect me to follow you because you have "practical application" that excites you? Do you congratulate a thief simply because he uses part of the money he stole to give to some other person? You celebrate his "philanthropy" and blind your eyes to the fact that he's a thief? |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by SouthernPlateau: 11:52pm On Jan 29, 2023 |
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Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:49am On Jan 30, 2023 |
sagenaija: You can apply your illustration to Jesus of Nazareth, to billions of Jews he was a thief for everything he taught because they can't figure out his claim as the Christ {John 10:20} so what evidence does Jesus of Nazareth had back then? Well it was a performing group practicing what he taught with faith {Matthew 12:46-50} everyone can see that what there God promised the Jews only came to fulfilment among the group practicing what Jesus taught! Act 2:16-18 compare to Joel 2:28-30 So if you think a performing group is a thief for winning the hearts of millions like me just present a better performing group and you don't have to stress yourself because all the things the God of Abraham promised in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3 JWs are fulfilling it globally today therefore it's you who is blaspheming the Holy Spirit working out the one and only evidence of pure worship as God foretold in the Bible! Matthew 12:31-32 The fruit Jesus promised as evidence of God's backing could be noticed only among JWs today {Galatians 5:22-23 compare to Matthew 7:16-18} no other group claiming Christians has achieved anything closer! James 2:18-26 So just as the Jews calling Jesus an impostor, Satanist and insane can't produce a better performing group than his first century followers that's exactly what is happening to you now! 1 Like |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Janosky: 6:37pm On Jan 30, 2023 |
sagenaija: Your analogy is spurious, without any bearing on this topic. @ Revelation 7:9-10, the Multitude were NEVER in heaven. Your own Bible NEVER said what you claimed. @ Ephesians 3:14 was Paul the apostle in heaven "bending his knees BEFORE THE FATHER?" |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Janosky: 6:41pm On Jan 30, 2023 |
TenQ: Oga, you are throwing tantrums & deceiving yourself? Kobojunkie quoted Isaiah 66:1-2 for you to debunk your claim. Why is your fellow 3 deities worshipper,Kobojunkie, receiving a conflicting information from the same ghost leading you? |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Janosky: 6:51pm On Jan 30, 2023 |
sagenaija:Sifia pains For JWs rejection of "every known way" of DUBIOUS renditions of 1 Timothy 3:16 & 1 John 5:7 & John 10:33. Revelation 7:9-10 , the multitude were NEVER in heaven. Shalom. .[/quote] |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Janosky: 7:11pm On Jan 30, 2023 |
sagenaija:Let's bring out FACTS from Revelation 7:9-10.... Point No1... Is "IN HEAVEN", ever stated @ Revelation 7:9-10 to reference the Multitude? No ! That Sage is LYING. Point No2. Sage Claim "BEFORE THE LAMB" actually means face to face with the Lamb. " Ephesians 3:14 "For this reason I kneel before the Father" Oga Sage, does "BEFORE THE FATHER" actually means face to face with the Father? Oga, can you now clearly see your deceit? " |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by TenQ: 7:41pm On Jan 30, 2023 |
Janosky:The scripture has finished you and showed you as LIARS! There is nothing else to add. Go sleep! 1 Like |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by johnw47: 1:07am On Jan 31, 2023 |
Janosky: Ecclesiastes 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool lost fraud jw janosky forever loving to post the same nonsense lies and call the Christian Father and Son and Holy Spirit of the Bible: "3gods" and of course loving to mock the Holy Spirit: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. because two say different things doesn't mean that the Holy Spirit is conflicting many people talk from their ego's and not from the Holy Spirit but you love to mock and blaspheme the Holy Spirit at every opportunity, don't you oh lost one: Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven. 1 Like |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Nobody: 2:00am On Jan 31, 2023 |
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Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Janosky: 11:46am On Jan 31, 2023 |
johnw47: John W ,Carry your Mumu WAILING komot from this forum. |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Janosky: 11:56am On Jan 31, 2023 |
TenQ: Your self deceit & mumu is extremely extraordinary Sage, Your friend you support, Claimed: "BEFORE THE LAMB" actually means face to face with the Lamb. " Your own Bible,Ephesians 3:14 "For this reason I kneel before the Father" Oga , does "BEFORE THE FATHER" actually means face to face with the Father? Deluded Clowns LYING & throwing tantrums on this forum. |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by sagenaija: 1:02pm On Jan 31, 2023 |
Janosky: Here you go again! I said, "...in those Revelation portions.." You now come and reference a particular portion to ask if what I said is there. How disingenuous can you get? However, where was John seeing all these experiences? Let that be a quick Bible study for you. 'Intelligent' Janosky doesn't seem to know that CONTEXT matters. Is the context of "before the Lamb” the same as the context of Paul's "I kneel before the Father"? Use simple intelligence. So, who wants to deceive who? |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by TenQ: 3:36pm On Jan 31, 2023 |
Janosky:Go sleep. The scripture is a witness against you! |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Janosky: 4:54pm On Jan 31, 2023 |
TenQ: Oga, continue deceiving yourself typing GIBBERISH. Revelation 7:9 NEVER said "in heaven", you and your deluded friend are devious. Revelation 7:17, do the Multitude cry in heaven? Or has anyone ever shed tears in heaven? You guys are very deluded and dishonest! |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Janosky: 4:59pm On Jan 31, 2023 |
sagenaija: See who is talking about "disingenuous!" Is Revelation 7:9 about the Multitude missing in your Bible? Which other chapters referenced the Multitude? You are not honest ! |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Janosky: 5:14pm On Jan 31, 2023 |
sagenaija: Mumu WAILING Most events John saw took place on earth. This WAILER, did the second death occur in heaven? The fulfillment of what John saw,is the real koko. Where was that scriptures fulfilled? Where did the event happen? Did John say the Multitudes were in heaven? No! For instance,Revelation 21:3-5,Do flesh and blood reside in heaven with sickness, mourning,pain & death? Your next WAILING go be New earth in heaven. Oga, carry your your delusion outta here |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Janosky: 5:43pm On Jan 31, 2023 |
sagenaija: Oga, you are not honest, I must say. “Before the Lamb" /"Before the Father" is the context not whether kneel or standing. Haba !!!!! |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by sagenaija: 5:55pm On Jan 31, 2023 |
Janosky: In order to muddle the waters you bring up different unrelated things and hope that you're being 'clever' by so doing. Do you remember that I mentioned "context"? Now, go to Revelation 4:1. What does it tell you? When John was told "Come up here", where is the " up here"? Also, do you find multitudes there? I know that you will need a magnifying glass here. Did John see a throne when he was asked to "come up"? Was the throne where he was asked to come up to? In chapter 7 did that throne change location? I know you guys work from your dogma to interpret the Bible. That is why no matter how clearly a thing is presented to you unless it agrees with what your Governing Board says, you will never accept it. Your brains are that skewed. We now know who is deluded and trying to get others to be the same. By the way, if I say " I talked directly with Mr. Z" do you know what will determine whether it was via phone or in-person meeting? Let me help you - CONTEXT. I hope you're getting sense small, small. |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by TenQ: 6:53pm On Jan 31, 2023 |
Janosky:I did not ask you of any explanation: the scripture has already judged you? |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Kobojunkie: 7:15pm On Jan 31, 2023 |
sagenaija:If you really value context, then you will be honest to state the fact which is that nothing in Revelations 7 indicates that neither of the 144,000 nor the multitude are placed in Heaven, much the same as both groups, and the temple are placed as being right here on earth in Isaiah 66. What Revelations 4 does is establish for those reading, those who are in Heaven. What it doesn't do is indicate that the 144,000 along with the multitudes, and the temple where they will be gathered here on earth will also be in Heaven. We already have the account from prophet Isaiah to help us understand where they will be gathered at first and that gathering place at the time of the resurrection is right here on earth ---' the resurrection comes approximately 1000 years before the judgment day of Jesus Christ and so Heaven remains out of the question for all those who are redeemed until after then. |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Kobojunkiee: 7:54pm On Jan 31, 2023 |
Janosky: Janosky:Are these responses of yours not of joke? 11 The Lord spoke to me with his great power and warned[i] me not to be like these people. He said,Did you actually attempt the reduce the All-Powerful because scripture now informs you that you were wrong about His dwelling place? Mount zion is here on earth and that is the same mount in Jerusalem where the 144,000 were written as standing in Revelations 14. How you transported that mountain to Heaven in order that you can conveniently claim a delusion fed to you by your GBs that only the 144,000 will be in Heaven is beyond me. |
Re: Is It Only 144000 people That Will Make Heaven? by Janosky: 9:24pm On Jan 31, 2023 |
Kobojunkiee:Christ Jesus is a spirit,1 Corinthians 15:45, he's not going to stand on any earthly mountain with the 144,000 co-rulers of his Father's kingdom. Mount Zion is heaven. Oga, you have the right to choose a contrary belief. |
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