Kobojunkie:
You show this by attacking me and not the message?

Stop lying ... you seek attention, mine for that matter.

It is you that write the meesage

delkuf:
It is you that write the meesage

But rather than counter the message as any sane individual would, you instead go at me all so you can get my attention for yourself.

jaephoenix:

1. Same way muslims argue that the terrorists we see aint true Muslims. Look, anyone can commit any sin, even murder, and s/he is covered by any of the holy books, be it Bible, Qoran, Veda etc.
2. No bro. Christianity is the same as Islam. Pinpoint the differences, lets see. Its all religions. Everyone insists his or hers is different, while its same ol, same ol.
In the Bible, Yahweh instructed Israelites to butcher up whole cities, didn't he?
Bro look, if not for the Great Crusades instituted by the Romans and Constantine, you'll be headbanging and shouting allahu akhbar, because those wars spread christianity to the Gaels, Anglo-Celtic countries which are the present day Britain, and the British brought it to your ancestors. So it doesn't matter

You're just ignorant. Have you bothered reading the Qur'an?

If you had you'd have seen that what Muhammad taught his followers(muslims) was completely different and opposite of what Jesus taught his followers (christians ).

See the following verses muslims still use to commit atrocities:

The Quran’s Sura 5:33 says about infidels, “They shall be slain or crucified, or have their hands and feet cut off.”


Sura 9:5 says, “Slay the infidels wherever you find them ... and lie in wait for them ... and establish every stratagem (of war against them).”


Sura 47:4-9 promises paradise to whoever cuts off the head of an infidel.


Compare that to Jesus who said :




But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,(Matt 5:4)


To him who strikes you on the one cheek, offer the other also. And from him who takes away your cloak, do not withhold your tunic either.(Luke 6:29)


These are completely two different religions with completely different idealogies.


2. Yes, God commanded Israel to exterminate all the cannanites tribes dwelling in Cannan , and the reasons for that was because they were knee-deep in child sacrificing and all sorts of abominations. But before doing that, God had specifically commanded Israel to first make an offering of peace to any cannanite tribe willing to make peace (Deut20:10-11)


Lastly , Jesus never commanded anyone to fight wars on his behalf through crusades, slave trade and conquest. So stop blaming Jesus for badly-behaved Christians


P.S : Atheism has killed more people than the crusades. Just look up Mao and Stalin and see how they annihilate more than 8 million of their own people, just to prove that there is no God . Sick

Jashub:


P.S : Atheism has killed more people than the crusades. Just look up Mao and Stalin and see how they annihilate more than 8 million of their own people, just to prove that there is no God . Sick

There is no religion that has killed more people than Christianity.
Have you heard about the thirty years war?
Not only did the crusaders kill Muslims they also ate them as cannibals, crusaders also killed other fellow christians that were not part of the Catholic sect.
In Old Testament didn’t yahweh kill other tribes including kids because they worshipped a different god?
Theists killing Theists to prove their favorite god is the best.

And we are just talking about Christianity out of thousands of religion.
Imagine we add everything together.
Hitler was a theist. The colonizers that ruled africa are theists.

Maynman:

There is no religion that has killed more people than Christianity.
Have you heard about the thirty years war?
Not only did the crusaders kill Muslims they also ate them as cannibals, crusaders also killed other fellow christians that were not part of the Catholic sect.

And we are just talking about Christianity out of thousands of religion.
Imagine we add everything together.
Hitler was a theist. The colonizers that ruled africa are theists.

It's on record atheism has killed more people than the crusades. So let it rest biko.


Secondly, when you say theists, try and attack one because I'm standing for Christianity not Buddha or Haricrishna

Jashub:
It's on record atheism has killed more people than the crusades . So let it rest biko

Is “atheism” a sect? Who was leading “atheism” to war?
Which illiterate complied it, Show the record
No religion has killed more than Christianity, crusaders killed other christians because they are not part of the Catholic sect.

Jashub:

Secondly, when you say theists, try and attack one because I'm standing for Christianity not Buddha or Haricrishna

Atheism is the opposite of theism, not Christianity.
Ogun, yahweh and allah worshippers are all theists.
the Christian god yahweh was killing other theists because they don’t worship him.

Stalin and mao dey learn from yahweh.

Maynman:


Is “atheism” a sect? Who was leading “atheism” to war?
Which illiterate complied it, Show the record
No religion has killed more than Christianity, crusaders killed other christians because they are not part of the Catholic sect.

You don't need to be pained baba, just do small googling on Mao and Stalin and see the wonder they did .

Jashub:
You don't need to be pained baba, just do small googling on Mao and Stalin and see the wonder they did .

You don’t need to be pained too yahweh worshipper, just do small googling on yahweh and see the wonders the Israelite deity did.

Maynman:


You don’t need to be pained too yahweh worshipper, just do small googling on yahweh and see the wonder the Israelite deity did.

Its not even up to half of what Joseph and Mao did and they were only around from less than 80 years.

If they had been given more time , all of humanity would have been extinct

https://www.nybooks.com/online/2018/02/05/who-killed-more-hitler-stalin-or-mao/

Jashub:
Its not even up to half of what Joseph and Mao did and they were only around from less than 80 years.

If they had been given more time , all of humanity would have been extinct

https://www.nybooks.com/online/2018/02/05/who-killed-more-hitler-stalin-or-mao/

Yahweh that drown the whole humanity in the mythology
Yahweh that killed kids and pregnant women and anything that breathes? Bwahahahah
Yahweh that killed first sons of Egyptians without those kids doing nothing ?
Joesph and Mao dey learn from yahweh.

Where in your link did they write that they killed people because they believe in a particular deity?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_violence

Maynman:


Yahweh that drown the whole humanity in the mythology.
Yahweh that killed kids and children and anything that breathes? Bwahahahah
Joespho and Mao dey learn from yahweh.

Where in your link did they write that they killed people because they don’t believe in a particular deity?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_violence

Divide Mao and Stalins death counts...God's own wouldn't reach half of it.


Now I understand why there is so much hatred for anything communist (atheist )

Jashub:
Divide Mao and Stalins death counts...God's own wouldn't reach half of it.


Now I understand why there is so much hatred for anything communist (atheist )

Yahweh that drown the whole humanity?, we are yet to even talk about the genocides in Old Testament, crusaders and thirty years war.
No religion has killed more people than Christianity!

Communist are atheists? Bwahahahah

Yahweh is a Serial and hardened Murderer!

All these murders only on Christianity and yahweh, if we add just one more religion and its own deity to it nko

jaephoenix:

Your ignorance is palpable.
You don't even know humans have a tail bone. Please google 'coccyx' and cure yourself of your ignorance.
During fetal development, the humans grow a tail til a genetic alterations causes it to stop. The remaining tail stays with us. Sometimes the tail continues growing to full 10cm or more, and have to be surgically excised.
Why do I have to educate theists anytime I login to Nairaland? Why?

May God help you

jaephoenix:

Lol. This is like when someone(yahweh) sees his best friend(slave master) maltreat, beat up and rape his girlfriend(slaves) and he tells his best friend's girl friend, "Please be obedient to him, if he says suck his dicck, suck it with love and care, if he says jump out of the window, do it head first". Instead of castigating his best friend for his sins, challenging him, or even reporting to the police.
Nowhere in the Bible was it stated that slavery is bad. Even in the 10 Commandments, murder, lying, adultery was castigated but not slavery.
So shut up your dirty lying mouth

May God help you

Jashub:
You're just ignorant. Have you bothered reading the Qur'an?

If you had you'd have seen that what Muhammad taught his followers(muslims) was completely different and opposite of what Jesus taught his followers (christians ).

See the following verses muslims still use to commit atrocities:

The Quran’s Sura 5:33 says about infidels, “They shall be slain or crucified, or have their hands and feet cut off.”


Sura 9:5 says, “Slay the infidels wherever you find them ... and lie in wait for them ... and establish every stratagem (of war against them).”


Sura 47:4-9 promises paradise to whoever cuts off the head of an infidel.


Compare that to Jesus who said :




But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,(Matt 5:4)


To him who strikes you on the one cheek, offer the other also. And from him who takes away your cloak, do not withhold your tunic either.(Luke 6:29)


These are completely two different religions with completely different idealogies.


2. Yes, God commanded Israel to exterminate all the cannanites tribes dwelling in Cannan , and the reasons for that was because they were knee-deep in child sacrificing and all sorts of abominations. But before doing that, God had specifically commanded Israel to first make an offering of peace to any cannanite tribe willing to make peace (Deut20:10-11)


Lastly , Jesus never commanded anyone to fight wars on his behalf through crusades, slave trade and conquest. So stop blaming Jesus for badly-behaved Christians


P.S : Atheism has killed more people than the crusades. Just look up Mao and Stalin and see how they annihilate more than 8 million of their own people, just to prove that there is no God . Sick

1. Your Yahweh specifically instructed the Israelites to slaughter everything that moves in the cities of Amalek, Canaan, Jericho, Canaanites, Perizzites, Jebusites and others etc. Everything. Even babies. Same babies you claimed they were sacrificing to their gods, is the same your Yahweh instructed the Israelites to murder. He even got angry when the Israelites kept some of the people alive, he wanted them dead
And no, Yahweh specifically didn't ask the Israelites to offer peace to those people.
Summary of yahweh's lovely touch in the old testament
1. The Flood (Genesis 6-
2. The cities of the plain, including Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 18-19)
3. The Egyptian firstborn sons during the Passover (Exodus 11-12)
4. The Canaanites under Moses and Joshua (Numbers 21:2-3; Deuteronomy 20:17; Joshua 6:17, 21)
5. The Amalekites annihilated by Saul (1 Samuel 15)
Let’s consider three categories of Old Testament texts that are morally problematic:

the “crimes” for which God prescribes the death penalty,
God’s anger and wrath in punishing his people, and
God’s command to the Israelites to commit genocide.
The death penalty. There are numerous “crimes” for which God, through the Law of Moses, requires the death penalty. Among these are sacrificing to a god other than Yahweh (Exodus 22:20), persistent rebelliousness on the part of a child (Deuteronomy 21:18–21), a child who hits or curses his or her parents (Exodus 21:15 and 17), working on the Sabbath (Exodus 35:2), premarital sexual intercourse (Deuteronomy 22:13–21), and the requirement for a priest to burn his daughter alive if she became a prostitute (Leviticus 21:9).

God’s anger and wrath. In the Old Testament, God’s anger repeatedly burns against his people for their disobedience. At times, the punishment he dispenses seems particularly harsh, unjust, and disproportionate. Let’s consider just one example.

In 2 Samuel 24, we find that King David decided to take a census of the men of fighting age. The prophet Gad was sent to David to announce God’s displeasure with the taking of the census. The punishment for David’s sin: “The Lord sent a pestilence on Israel from that morning until the appointed time; and seventy thousand of the people died” (2 Samuel 24:15). David makes a decision that does not please God, and God kills 70,000 Israelites for it? How could this action ever be reconciled with a God of mercy, compassion, justice, and love?

Oh, What a loving god

The peaceful demeanor only started in the new testament, and it was by Jesus, not by Yahweh. And if you say both are the same, then you insinuate Yahweh is schizophrenic

P.S. Christianity alone(not counting other religions) have killed more. From Hitler, the Crusades, Witch trials in Europe and America, Huguenot Wars, The Inquisition etc has killed more than Mao and Stalin

gohf:
May God help you

Lol. My guy don shut up

jaephoenix:

Lol. My guy don shut up

May God hell you

Jashub:
Divide Mao and Stalins death counts...God's own wouldn't reach half of it.


Now I understand why there is so much hatred for anything communist (atheist )

Bro, we're talking about the whole damn world here. C'mon be honest for once

gohf:
May God help you

Hehehehehe. Bro, u don't have anything to say. Are you dumbfounded?

gohf:
May God hell you

Why, my guy. From 'help me' to 'hell me'.
Lol. Fatwa Envy in play here

There is just one thing wrong with atheism: man wasn't created to direct his own steps {Jeremiah 10:23} so we need the uncommon sense from our Creator to know how we can cohabit peacefully with our neighbours.

As for wickedness it stems from a greedy heart and most people don't just like being evil it's our circumstances and conditions that leads us into temptation to do evil!

The title "GOD" connotes "SUPREME BEING" as human being we need a supreme counselor who will direct us to benefit ourselves {Isaiah 48:17-18} it's normal to object to this but then we mustn't think of setting up standards for our fellow human because none of us is supreme.

This is where the problem lies:
It's unnatural for any normal human to isolate himself from others that's why you will notice that those claiming atheists can't just walk away despite advocating independent thinking they're still worried over what others believe.
So even though you're not a threat to their life an atheist will always want to argue with you over your beliefs.
WHY?
God never create us to live without having to do with our fellow humans as BELIEVERS in the same line of thought!

MaxInDHouse:
There is just one thing wrong with atheism: man wasn't created to direct his own steps {Jeremiah 10:23} so we need the uncommon sense from our Creator to know how we can cohabit peacefully with our neighbours.

As for wickedness it stems from a greedy heart and most people don't just like being evil it's our circumstances and conditions that leads us into temptation to do evil!

The title "GOD" connotes "SUPREME BEING" as human being we need a supreme counselor who will direct us to benefit ourselves {Isaiah 48:17-18} it's normal to object to this but then we mustn't think of setting up standards for our fellow human because none of us is supreme.

This is where the problem lies:
It's unnatural for any normal human to isolate himself from others that's why you will notice that those claiming atheists can't just walk away despite advocating independent thinking they're still worried over what others believe.
So even though you're not a threat to their life an atheist will always want to argue with you over your beliefs.
WHY?
God never create us to live without having to do with our fellow humans as BELIEVERS in the same line of thought!

I'm worried because some Christian nutjob like you can be president tomorrow and order all atheists killed, or force us to pray every minute

jaephoenix:

I'm worried because some Christian nutjob like you can be president tomorrow and order all atheists killed, or force us to pray every minute

You don't have to be worried because real Christians don't vote nor participate in politics, we mustn't be part of people using weapons to intimidate or force others to do what is right. Matthew 26:52
In true Christianity everything we do is based on mutual agreement on rules that all of us subject ourselves to as we believe it's from the supreme being.
So if anyone among us after accepting decides he's no longer OK with it we stay away from them let them relate with those who aren't subjected to our rules, if you don't know our rules we deal with you as our normal neighbour whom we must love as ourselves.

MaxInDHouse:

You don't have to be worried because real Christians don't vote nor participate in politics, we mustn't be part of people using weapons to intimidate or force others to do what is right. Matthew 26:52
In true Christianity everything we do is based on mutual agreement on rules that all of us subject ourselves to as we believe it's from the supreme being.
So if anyone among us after accepting decides he's no longer OK with it we stay away from them let them relate with those who aren't subjected to our rules, if you don't know our rules we deal with you as our normal neighbour whom we must love as ourselves.

Well, imagine someone like you, comes up and decides to slaughter all non-christians

jaephoenix:

Well, imagine someone like you, comes up and decides to slaughter all non-christians

This is why i always told you not to rely so much on the definition that's not reliable, the man called CHRIST is Jesus of Nazareth so it's those PRACTICING what he taught that you can rightly call CHRISTIANS not people claiming so!

Then such a person is not a true followers of the man who said:

“You heard that it was said: ‘You must love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ However, I say to you: Continue to love your enemies and to pray for those who persecute you" Matthew 5:43-44

“Look! I am sending you out as sheep among wolves; so prove yourselves cautious as serpents and yet harmless as doves" Matthew 10:16

“Return your sword to its place, for all those who take up the sword will perish by the sword" Matthew 26:52

MaxInDHouse:


This is why i always told you not to rely so much on the definition that's not reliable, the man called CHRIST is Jesus of Nazareth so it's those PRACTICING what he taught that you can rightly call CHRISTIANS not people claiming so!

Then such a person is not a true followers of the man who said:

“You heard that it was said: ‘You must love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ However, I say to you: Continue to love your enemies and to pray for those who persecute you" Matthew 5:43-44

“Look! I am sending you out as sheep among wolves; so prove yourselves cautious as serpents and yet harmless as doves" Matthew 10:16

“Return your sword to its place, for all those who take up the sword will perish by the sword" Matthew 26:52

Some JW folks have done terrible stuff. Weren't they following Jehovah?

jaephoenix:

Some JW folks have done terrible stuff. Weren't they following Jehovah?

Of course a JW can do terrible stuff because we're not perfect but note the difference:

If a JW does what is against our norms no JW will support him!

Unlike churchgoers who often support their members to pick up weapons against their enemies JWs will never ever pick up weapons in support of anyone.

That's what i discovered back in the days i was a military man so i discovered the big difference between JWs and all other religions.
If you walk up to a member of our GOVERNING BODY and kill him it's the authorities that will take up your case for man's slaughter to JWs it's a man killing another man just as Jesus commanded his disciples not to support him with weapons we must not support ourselves with weapons!

Didn’t your yahweh order israelites to pick up weapons?

Maynman:

Didn’t your yahweh order israelites to pick up weapons?

YES!
To fight the enemies of pure worship whose intention is to desecrate Jerusalemu the center of pure worship back then or trying to disrupt pure worship by attacking the practicers of pure worship.
Jesus of Nazareth later told us that pure worship will no longer be attached to any geographical location on the planet so that practicers of pure worship don't need to be in Jerusalem before their worship is approved by God! John 4:20-24
That's why worshipers of Yahweh must not pick up weapons again we have no physical site to protect against unlike before when we have to fight to protect the center of pure worship! Matthew 5:43-48

Thanks may you have PEACE!

MaxInDHouse:

YES!
To fight the enemies of pure worship whose intention is to desecrate Jerusalemu the center of pure worship back then or trying to disrupt pure worship by attacking the practicers of pure worship.
Jesus of Nazareth later told us that pure worship will no longer be attached to any geographical location on the planet so that practicers of pure worship don't need to be in Jerusalem before their worship is approved by God! John 4:20-24
That's why worshipers of Yahweh must not pick up weapons again we have no physical site to protect against unlike before when we have to fight to protect the center of pure worship! Matthew 5:43-48

Thanks may you have PEACE!

So yahweh ordered people to take weapons against their enemies