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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 4:58pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
[quote author=hatakekakashi post=121549360][/quote] My comment isn't really because of the 7-0 thrashing... The season Liverpool lost to Villa 7-2 we were in a very bad shape..... We still managed to finish 3rd that season...Man Utd are supposedly in their best form in years according to their fans,but you have lost games by embarrassing scorelines this season and are 3rd, just 7 points ahead of us with a game in hand for us... Just goes to show that Ten Haag isn't building anything special like you guys are trying to make it look... Anyway, time we tell.... |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Ashleyokeneye(f): 4:59pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 5:09pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
Amedino99:Our own Forgiveness talked about his experience with his son at the beyond limits academy and one thing he said was, it was clear to me after their trip that talent isn't enough, technicality and tactics is extremely important. 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 5:13pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
AndSunGorilla: That is just it.. Talking about Beyond limits, they beat Remo Stars 3-2 in the state FA cup game today ![]() Juniors don beat their seniors.. lol 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 5:33pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
Danielnino00:Maybe seniors were just being magnanimous ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by hatakekakashi: 5:35pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
Danielnino00:You've still not shown why you think Ten hag is not building the team after just half a season and one TW with the club. Is this not a better Man Utd than last season. I know you prefer Ole continuing as coach than Ten hag for obvious reasons 😂. Same reason why we all love Potter. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by hatakekakashi: 5:38pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
charlesemeka85:Bruv, pesin look Man UTD last season and this season, talk say the coach is not building anything😂. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 5:42pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
Today's date is ...... ManU, March 2023 IYKYK 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:03pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
codemaniacs: You are running with your own perception. The screening process I posted was done by Emmanuel Amunike. Keep in mind, he trained under Sir Bobby Robson, one of the best tacticians of the game. He trained under Luis Van Gaal and was part of one of the best-scouted Super Eagles era (USA 94 and Atlanta 96 teams). So, calling it madness is funny. Instead, you should learn from him. Keep in mind, he was part of those that scouted the likes of Isaac Success, Kelechi Iheanacho, Wilfred Ndidi, Taiwo Awoniyi, Kelechi Nwakali, Victor Osimhen, and Chukwueze. He knows his stuff. Now, what he is looking for are gems. Let me explain what gems are. When Diego Maradona joined Argentinos Juniors, I think he was 10 years old, his manager said, he could not teach Maradona anything. He knew it all at that age. What the open trials are for, is to find special talents. Yes, you can find them on the streets. When you find these special players, you give them a crash course in tactical play. As soon as they assimilate the basics, they grow from there. And, yes, they can even outclass players that grew up playing in some of the best academies in the world. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 6:04pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
hatakekakashi: I already did... Its all in my post.. Don't sorry, all the celebration will calm down by season end.. we will all be here.. Ole, Ten Haag or Potter, I don't care who our rivals appoint as coach . Guardiola is the only coach who has constantly given Klopp problems... The rest na just vibes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:09pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
Danielnino00: Even after doing the NPFL U-15 development programme, you are not going to capture all the top talents in the country with it. The idea is to find the best players available and open trials give that. You talk of age as if the other ways do not have players with falsified age in the system. Unless the NPFL system can cater for over a hundred thousand kids, it can't help give us a proper selection process. We need all systems contributing and open trials to be the benchmark to break into the squad. If a player who has been in an academy for 15 years can not perform better than a player who has been playing on the street in an open trial, the academy-developed player has no place in the U20 team. Finito. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:12pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
AndSunGorilla: He also pointed out that the coaches marveled that the kid had not been training in an academy but was more developed technically than many of the kids in the academy. Remember that. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 6:20pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
TheGoodJoe: That is where private academies come in to fill the deficit... Let me ask you, what's the aim of the u-20 world cup? Is it not to nurture talents for the future? So how would you gather street boys who are talented but lack the tactical and technical acumen of the game? When they go to the world cup, they will obviously meet teams better than them and be humbled.. The NFF in it's usual fashion would just abandon them..So what will we benefit in the end? Don't forget that we need the u-20 to feed players to the u-23 and super eagles too... If it is about u-17, I can very much agree... But u-20 requires more of professionalism... Imagine if Norway had conducted Open trail for it's u-20.. Halaand probably wont have shoot into the limelight as quickly as he did..he was already a professional at his club,so it was easy for him to get signed by Salzburg. An u-20 player is supposed to be close to hitting his prime... 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by hatakekakashi: 6:28pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
Danielnino00:You've deviated from the real matter, boss😅. Nobody is comparing anybody with Klopp. Why did you think Ten hag is not building the team after half a season and one TW? Building a solid team takes more than a whole season sef, especially if the team was so bad, they were lucky to finish sixth the season before. You said we'll all be here by the end of the season, to do what exactly? The only thing ETH can do to deserve criticisms by the end of the season is to drop out of top 4. Anything else is extra, even his employers (Glazers) didn't expect instant success when he was signed. I don't want to use the first season of other top coaches to compare ETH's cos I don't like belittling other people's efforts. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 6:29pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
hatakekakashi:no be everybody wey dey here dey sane na Madness no be only when person naked run enter market or street 🤣🤣🤣🤣 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 6:30pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
hatakekakashi:you too get time 🤣 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:30pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
Danielnino00: You are making it look like the talents identified will just go from the streets to the World Cup. These guys get to work with the coaches in camp for over a year. We should stop using the Europeans as a benchmark. Look at Spain for instance, all the clubs till the third or even fourth divisions, have academies, with coaches with pro licenses. These clubs have the ability to scout the best talents across the country and the FAs do little in scouting and identifying talents. Nigeria is a long way from there. So, using how they got Haaland and co. to judge how we should scout talents is unrealistic. We have a lot of special talents that have no means of exposure. So, what we then do is plug the gap by finding exceptional talents, and bringing them up to speed tactically. If they are better than the academy and professional boys, they are best for the team. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 6:41pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by hatakekakashi: 6:43pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
charlesemeka85:Bro dey calm down, abeg😀. Na play we dey play here. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 6:52pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
typicalgamer:Take raw talents to a competition? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 7:00pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
TheGoodJoe:You said we shouldn't use the European model, and then go on to say something like the players will be in camp with the coach for a year? Bro which year? In Nigeria, we don't plan for youth tournaments until they are close by.. the team might even be without a coach until a few months to the start of a tournament,then you see them gathering players here and there.. How would such system favour players from the street who need time to be refined? Let's be realistic... |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:07pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
Danielnino00: The U20 does not work like that. Why do you think Emmanuel Amunike was able to play about 50 matches with his U20 team? It was because he camped for a long time with them. The idea is to have a team of quality professional and academy-trained players, while you built a top-grade team B made from scouting through open trials. Then towards the regular camping, you do the final screening. The aim is to find the best players, not the best opportuned players. Finito. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 7:07pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
hatakekakashi: I concede defeat.. Ten Haag is building something very special...Next season, and hopefully without our man Osimhen,he would win the quadruple he got you guys to dream about this season... |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 7:09pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
typicalgamer: Street can't beat academy in terms of raw talent... All the best players in the world weren't picked from the streets they were in all in academies. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 7:16pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
TheGoodJoe:At the end of the 50 game period, the team failed to qualify for the world cup.. Aside the u-17 players from the 2015 world cup that were integrated into the team, the bulk of the others have gone into oblivion.. There's not so much the national U-20 team can do for these guys... Once the tournament is done with, they are on their own, unless their agents can leverage on their performance to get them good clubs.. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 7:19pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
TheGoodJoe: Kelechi Iheanacho, Wilfred Ndidi, Taiwo Awoniyi, Kelechi Nwakali, Victor Osimhen, and Chukwueze were already playing in academies they were never street footballer. Diego maradona's manager said that after Maradona had become an accomplished player he didn't say it when Maradona was 10 years old.. do you expect him to say negative things about Maradona the same way some Nigerians on this thread say negative things about Nigerian footballers ![]() Special talents can never be found on the streets because if they had special talents they'll already be in an academy. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by hatakekakashi: 7:24pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
Danielnino00:😂😂No p, boss. But seriously, which EPL team do you wish Osihmen joins next season? Liverpool and City are out since their attack is stacked already. I personally think he'll score more at Arsenal. Plus I heard arsenal are leading the race for him. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 7:33pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
hatakekakashi:Arsenal won't go for him. Although, I would like to have him at arsenal but he is just not Arteta's type of striker. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:37pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
codemaniacs: When coach Monday Sinclair discovered Finidi George, Peter Rufai, Taribo West, and co., they were street/secondary school players. You are just talking what you think about the Argentinos Juniors coach. He said Maradona knew it all when he found him. You don't have a reason to doubt him. When Babawo Mohammed found Mikel Obi, he was playing on the street and he knew he had found "the best player in the country". About two years from there, he was training with Manchester United players and they were telling the coach (Sir Alex Ferguson) that Mikel was special. So, yes, you can find exceptional talents on the street. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 7:37pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
hatakekakashi: The problem with EPL team is that their fans are quick to turn on players when the team is underperforming...They run out of patience quickly... I don't want him to join Man Utd for obvious reasons ![]() IMO, Bayern,Madrid or PSG soil be good for him....those are clubs were he can score well and is guaranteed at least a trophy every season |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:40pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
Danielnino00: The team failed to qualify due to sabotage. They were dumped on a pitch with poor drainage and were hindered from playing their brand of football. No matter the negativity, they played about fifty games and only lost one. If it was a league, they would have been top. The lack of exposure hindered their growth, but it does not mean they were not good. The fact is that we can run a healthy program with open trials and comprehensive screening. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:41pm On Mar 07, 2023 |
Danielnino00: It is not just about what the U20 can do for these guys but getting the best players from the team. |
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