TenQ:
Sorry for the lengthy post :

The Qur’an says that the calf worshipped by the Israelites at mount Horeb after their escape from Egypt was molded by a Samaritan.

Qur'an 20:85-86, 95
85. (Allah) said: “Verily! We have tried your people in your absence, and As-Samiri (the Samaritan) has led them astray.”
86. Then Moses went back unto his folk, angry and sad. He said: O my people! Hath not your Lord promised you a fair promise? Did the time appointed then appear too long for you, or did ye wish that wrath from your Lord should come upon you, that ye broke tryst with me?
87. They said: "We broke not the promise to thee, as far as lay in our power: but we were made to carry the weight of the ornaments of the (whole) people, and we threw them (into the fire), and that was what the As-Samiri (the Samaritan) suggested.
88. "Then he brought out (of the fire) before the (people) the image of a calf: It seemed to low: so they said: This is your god, and the god of Moses, but (Moses) has forgotten!"
95. (Moses) said: "What then is thy case, O Samiri (Samaritan)?"

The problem is that
The Samaritans did NOT exist till about 1500 years after Moses. The Samaritans came well after Solomon the king of Israel.

Questions:
1. Could an all-knowing God make such a silly historical mistake?
2. Let's even assume the modern Islamic Taqqiya is accepted:
Can any Muslim tell us who the As-Samiri are in history?


As usual, I call my Nairaland friends for this exciting discussion


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advocatejare:

Muhammad, the author of the Quran just pack all sorts of inaccurate stories and fairytales in his book called the Quran. No wonder the people of his days exposed him for that

“ And whenever Our messages were conveyed to them, they would say, "We have heard [all this] before; if we wanted, we could certainly compose sayings like these [ourselves]: they are nothing but fables of ancient times!"
-Quran 8:31

TenQ:
Sorry for the lengthy post :

The Qur’an says that the calf worshipped by the Israelites at mount Horeb after their escape from Egypt was molded by a Samaritan.

Qur'an 20:85-86, 95
85. (Allah) said: “Verily! We have tried your people in your absence, and As-Samiri (the Samaritan) has led them astray.”
86. Then Moses went back unto his folk, angry and sad. He said: O my people! Hath not your Lord promised you a fair promise? Did the time appointed then appear too long for you, or did ye wish that wrath from your Lord should come upon you, that ye broke tryst with me?
87. They said: "We broke not the promise to thee, as far as lay in our power: but we were made to carry the weight of the ornaments of the (whole) people, and we threw them (into the fire), and that was what the As-Samiri (the Samaritan) suggested.
88. "Then he brought out (of the fire) before the (people) the image of a calf: It seemed to low: so they said: This is your god, and the god of Moses, but (Moses) has forgotten!"
95. (Moses) said: "What then is thy case, O Samiri (Samaritan)?"


The problem is that
The Samaritans did NOT exist till about 1500 years after Moses. The Samaritans came well after Solomon the king of Israel.

Questions:
1. Could an all-knowing God make such a silly historical mistake?
2. Let's even assume the modern Islamic Taqqiya is accepted:
Can any Muslim tell us who the As-Samiri are in history?


As usual, I call my Nairaland friends for this exciting discussion


Details and References Next page if you care:

Cc:
LegalWolf…

TenQ:

Of course!
Any new thing he hears, he put it inside his Qur'an.

This was exactly how Alexander the Great became a Prophet of Islam!
SMH!!

LegalWolf:
Let me keep space.

Cc: future thief TenQ

FxMasterz:

Bro please sincerely answer the questions for the sake of your own soul.

There was no city called Samaria in the days of Moses. Samaria became the capital city of the 10 tribes after they split from Judah and Benjamin. Omri, the 3rd king of the 10 tribes bought a mountain from a man called Sema. He now named the mountain Samaria after the name of the previous owner. Later on, the entire area was called Samaria, and it even became the capital city.

Even during all those days, nobody in Israel was ever called a Samaritan. This was not until the king of Assyria took the original inhabitants of Samaria away to Assyria and brought captives from other nations to live in Samaria.

In short, the word ', Samaritan was a derogatory remark for those none Israelites who the king of Assyria brought to live in Samaria. The distance between Moses and these events is about 1,500yrs.

Where then did Allah see the Samaritan of the days of Moses?

LegalWolf:


Look at this future thief talking 🤣🤣😝🤣

Modified: it’s even the warp logic and hallucination for me. Lol!

Cc: Future thief TenQ

LegalWolf:
Let me keep space.

Cc: future thief TenQ

FxMasterz:

Lol. Is Alexandra really a prophet in Islam?

FxMasterz:

Bro please sincerely answer the questions for the sake of your own soul.

There was no city called Samaria in the days of Moses. Samaria became the capital city of the 10 tribes after they split from Judah and Benjamin. Omri, the 3rd king of the 10 tribes bought a mountain from a man called Sema. He now named the mountain Samaria after the name of the previous owner. Later on, the entire area was called Samaria, and it even became the capital city.

Even during all those days, nobody in Israel was ever called a Samaritan. This was not until the king of Assyria took the original inhabitants of Samaria away to Assyria and brought captives from other nations to live in Samaria.

In short, the word ', Samaritan was a derogatory remark for those none Israelites who the king of Assyria brought to live in Samaria. The distance between Moses and these events is about 1,500yrs.

Where then did Allah see the Samaritan of the days of Moses?

LegalWolf:


Lol, it’s even the audacity for me? Haaaaa Obi 🙆‍♀️ How did you do that?


Your exclusive source for the events on the origin of the Samaritans is based on biblical accounts, isn’t it? Now the questions I have for you is:

1. Why should I take the biblical account as factual when I have reasons to the contrary?

2. Are you aware of the Samaritans version of their own history, which significantly differs from the account you just gave?

3. As you rightly said that Samaritan is an exonym. Does that in anyway detract from the fact that this people have been existing before other Jews gave them the name Samaritan ?

4. Are you also aware that these people consider themselves guardians of the law and date their own presence to the time of Moses?

It’s not a matter of nzogbu nzogbu otellectualism, please!

Cc: potential thief TenQ

MaxInDHouse:
When an illiterate follows his mistress to the Catholic Church listening to stories in the Bible but decides to start his own religion using the stories he heard from the mouth of Catholics how do you expect him to remember all the characters mentioned in stories that run from Genesis to Revelations not to talk of dates and venue of events?
Surely he will try to make some sense out of what he was able to gather but then when you know about the real stories the only thing he could tell his gullible followers is that what the Bible documented with specific names, dates and venue of events has been altered.

That's why an average Muslim will quote the Bible to authenticate what Muhammad told him but when you figure out the contradictions they will say it's the Bible yet their book can't tell them anything straightforward.

Well i thank God for sending His Witnesses to help me know the truth about Him and His only begotten Son! John 17:3

TenQ:

I think Mohammed got his stories from several incompatible sources
1. From the Jews
2. From the Christians
3. From the Sabians
4. From Arabian Tales
Etc.
He got bit and pieces from all over. He only built his foundation from Judeo-Christian views.

His followers are desperately trying to duck tape the obvious errors in the perfect book of Allah!
His lack of historical train of sequence is evidently betrayed in his composition of the Qur'an

TenQ:

1. What do the Arabs call the Samaritans?

But as usual, I expect turning and twistings as it that will solve your massively big dilemma!

Questions:
1. Could an all-knowing God make such a silly historical mistake?
2. Let's even assume the modern Islamic Taqqiya is accepted:
Can LegalWolf tell us who the As-Samiri are in history?

TenQ:

Do you need to?

Even if I give you ten years,
You'll never ever have a reasonable answer dude!

TenQ:

I can bet it with you that he would never truthfully answer the questions.

Muslim scholars way out was not to translate "the Samaritan" f om Arabic into English so that the meaning would be lost. However, I've bursted their lies from at least three different sources.

Watch LegalWolf say EVERY OTHER THINGS except to answer the questions!

I told you that with respect to Islam, he is as predictable as the sun!

TenQ:

At least from your text in quote, you are not denying the "Samaritan" in your Qur'an. You are only contesting that this group existed probably long before Moses!

I gave you proofs didn't I? Please where are your proof?

1. The issue is about History. Did Moses exist in the Qur'an and the story of the Golding calf?
2. Can you kindly give a proof that the Samaritans have any story proving that they exist at the time of Moses?
3. Just give us the History of the Samaritans and this would be put to rest.
4. Just give the history of how the Samaritans got their laws from Moses!

advocatejare:

Muhammad, the author of the Quran just pack all sorts of inaccurate stories and fairytales in his book called the Quran. No wonder the people of his days exposed him for that

“ And whenever Our messages were conveyed to them, they would say, "We have heard [all this] before; if we wanted, we could certainly compose sayings like these [ourselves]: they are nothing but fables of ancient times!"
-Quran 8:31

MaxInDHouse:
YES! He got stories from different sources but when asked for authentication he points to only one book: Bible!

LegalWolf:


I know what Arabs call Samaritans, and I also know what LegalWolf call TenQ - a future thief!

Cc: Potential thief TenQ

LegalWolf:


Of course, can a truthful and factual answer be reasonable to a destined thief ? 🙄😝😝😝😝😝😝

LegalWolf:


Hahahaha the unstable and unpredictable future thief. Lol!

LegalWolf:


Lol, look at a future thief asking me questions. And you’re expecting a response from me to you. Really? Fil mish mish future thief!

The times I’ve responded to you, haven’t you been forging statements and attributing it to me? Or fabricating lies upon lies. Lol

PS: FxMasterz was my target not the future thief called TenQ!

TenQ:
Sorry for the lengthy post :

The Qur’an says that the calf worshipped by the Israelites at mount Horeb after their escape from Egypt was molded by a Samaritan.

Qur'an 20:85-86, 95
85. (Allah) said: “Verily! We have tried your people in your absence, and As-Samiri (the Samaritan) has led them astray.”
86. Then Moses went back unto his folk, angry and sad. He said: O my people! Hath not your Lord promised you a fair promise? Did the time appointed then appear too long for you, or did ye wish that wrath from your Lord should come upon you, that ye broke tryst with me?
87. They said: "We broke not the promise to thee, as far as lay in our power: but we were made to carry the weight of the ornaments of the (whole) people, and we threw them (into the fire), and that was what the As-Samiri (the Samaritan) suggested.
88. "Then he brought out (of the fire) before the (people) the image of a calf: It seemed to low: so they said: This is your god, and the god of Moses, but (Moses) has forgotten!"
95. (Moses) said: "What then is thy case, O Samiri (Samaritan)?"


The problem is that
The Samaritans did NOT exist till about 1500 years after Moses. The Samaritans came well after Solomon the king of Israel.

Questions:
1. Could an all-knowing God make such a silly historical mistake?
2. Let's even assume the modern Islamic Taqqiya is accepted:
Can any Muslim tell us who the As-Samiri are in history?


As usual, I call my Nairaland friends for this exciting discussion


Details and References Next page if you care:

Cc:
LegalWolf Vanessa7 AntiChristian Empiree, Rash4ductluv, BabaHeekmat, Haekymbahd, motayoayinde, drlateef, Thatfairguy1, MrCodeSolo , Hisbah21, thatsleepboy1 , Lordmoh , OBALOLA55, x123xlolls , Lukuluku69 , mhmsadyq, Ibsaq , Herkeym001 , Sulasa07 , hakeemhakeem , abduljabbar4 ,olaalekan ,Friend22 , uthlaw , Exc2000 , AbuTwins ,Akhirastriver ,Akinbahm , Sino , KayB , youngdroly , jaggabban , ukeleh , Realismailakabir , Bami8064 Greatgr , Gaskiyamagana Compton11 , Alfarouq , MrCodeSolo Satmaniac saintHot, drlateef, Donkmore
Akinbahm , IMEI , FATHAT , talk2hb1 , iamrealdeji , Encyclopedia1 , Raheeqilmaktoom , Bintdawood

TenQ:

He needed authentication from Jews and Christians to be able to promote Al-Lah the Arabian Deity to the status of the only Tru God Yahweh!

TenQ:

You always make my case!
You'll never answer!

It is embarrassing to you!
Sorry, it wasn't an intentional blow from me!