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Re: Does Your Church Still Preach About Hell Fire, Holy Living, Rapture, Eternity? by eben97: 3:10pm On May 14, 2023
JoeEeL:


Some of you are quite unbelievable o. U people want One Nigeria but don't even know what goes on in 99% other part of the so-called Nigeria.

Anyway, check NL front page.
do you live in Nass state ??
Re: Does Your Church Still Preach About Hell Fire, Holy Living, Rapture, Eternity? by Johnboom: 3:12pm On May 14, 2023
tolexy007:
My Church Apostolic faith Church, can't do without mentioning it in Thier Sermons and salvation too

What branch do you attend? Did you enjoy youth weekend?
Re: Does Your Church Still Preach About Hell Fire, Holy Living, Rapture, Eternity? by Aboguede(m): 3:28pm On May 14, 2023
People underrate weed too much na

Imagine bob marley without weed

Imagine lucky dube without weed

Imagine fela kuti without weed.

Meanwhile humans are not compared to lower animals.

An angel, demons has the same features as humans and don't compare them to a dog grin
Even though they can also take the body of a dog and still return as angels

The difference between humans and angels are that humans are worker or managers of a planet called Earth while angels are workers in another planet likewise demons

Now another difference is time

The kind of work humans do on earth can require alot of time (human clock)

So 9we say that humans are everlasting beings like gods but work in different dimensions.

This is why we have and believe and accept the entity "God"

If the lives of humans on earth are meaningless or categorised between 100 years only, then there would not need God in human psychy.

Hunans are engineers and creators just like gods.

The gods have done the foundation but the project earth is a big one and Hunans are the engineers who are completing the buildings roads and transportation.

Do u know that over 75% of the earth surface are virgins, not explored and humans have mastered different means of travelling 1million times above the earth, searching for materials to exolorate the development of the earth and also to continue to master the armor which he has put on in other to survive of earth which compute mistries of hacks and many opportunities


OKOATA:
Bros you don dey carry me go far, e be like na weed master you be? Anyways going by your scientific analogy because that's what I can say here, if you are talking about man can hibernate or exist in other forms or even saying they can see things in the future and all it's the same with animals that are lower to us. We have seen cases of chimpanzees operating phones, dogs undergoing training for military operations etc. Even big cats going through circuses πŸŽͺ to make people laugh. So what I'm saying is that since we have lower and higher animals we are cognitive to learning since that's how nature made it so, a bird for example can create it's own nest without prior learning, a spider can create is netting via the power of nature. Can we say all these lower animals will go to heaven too plus the ones we don chop comot. Lol. So what I'm saying is that we aren't really different from lower animals since we are going to die like them. Even Ecclesiastes said so. Ecclesiastes 9:5. When a mad dies it's everlasting unconsciousness, same way you came same way you go.
Re: Does Your Church Still Preach About Hell Fire, Holy Living, Rapture, Eternity? by Gandoki87: 3:51pm On May 14, 2023
Visit any Assemblies of God church close to you and you will see this message there. Holy spirit church
Re: Does Your Church Still Preach About Hell Fire, Holy Living, Rapture, Eternity? by JoeEeL(m): 4:03pm On May 14, 2023
eben97:
do you live in Nass state ??

No.
Re: Does Your Church Still Preach About Hell Fire, Holy Living, Rapture, Eternity? by xproducer: 4:08pm On May 14, 2023
"Therefore I testify to you this day that I am innocent[a] of the blood of all men. For I have not shunned to declare to you the whole counsel of God. Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church [c]of God which He purchased with His own blood." - Acts 20:26-28
Re: Does Your Church Still Preach About Hell Fire, Holy Living, Rapture, Eternity? by blesoh(f): 4:08pm On May 14, 2023
RCCG after every preaching the pastor will remind us about this, so we still preach it
Re: Does Your Church Still Preach About Hell Fire, Holy Living, Rapture, Eternity? by Gtwix: 4:23pm On May 14, 2023
This OKATA of a guy is sick,ignoramus
Re: Does Your Church Still Preach About Hell Fire, Holy Living, Rapture, Eternity? by Femwiz: 5:02pm On May 14, 2023
Yes
Re: Does Your Church Still Preach About Hell Fire, Holy Living, Rapture, Eternity? by Jesusmystrength(f): 5:54pm On May 14, 2023
YES...I attend Rapture Proclaimer Evangelical Church Of God. Rapec. aka Mummy G.O's Church. You can search for her life transforming messages on YouTube (Rapectv)
Re: Does Your Church Still Preach About Hell Fire, Holy Living, Rapture, Eternity? by Shantyken(m): 6:16pm On May 14, 2023
Rayban25:
Nlfpmod I think you guys need to be putting restrictions on Christian threads just like you do for muslims threads

Because at this stage it seems like you guys are just licking ass and allowing any non chrsistian to say rubbish on the threads

I support this suggestion
Re: Does Your Church Still Preach About Hell Fire, Holy Living, Rapture, Eternity? by eben97: 8:02pm On May 14, 2023
JoeEeL:


No.
it is well. I speak from that axis as we chat here. I understand the system in Nas state with total complexity.it is more than a go ernors matter, it will take the hands of a very neutral God fearing president to attend to this trouble,..we pray the incoming be bold enough to help stem this mess. Most of the tiv christian community in NASS STATE ARE currently under attack, I mean like 99% christian tiv community.so it's a religious ethinic matter b3n aided by the Muslim community around them who also wishes to see them leave Nass state anday be return back to Benue state all over land and space issues
Re: Does Your Church Still Preach About Hell Fire, Holy Living, Rapture, Eternity? by Kobojunkie: 9:57pm On May 14, 2023
OKOATA:
β–  Hell exist but it's not for humans, that's where devil and his demons live, Heaven exist but only belongs solely to God, Yeshua, Cerubum and Seraphim, Arch angels, Angels, Baby angels and other powerful angels and the likes. When a man dies it's an everlasting unconsciousness, it will be like the same way how we never knew we existed in our mother's womb till we started to think we exist.
β–  Talking about rapture, there's rapture happening everyday, when your loved one dies and leaves you behind is that not rapture? Hoping to wait since 2000years ago thinking Yeshua will appear in the sky is not gonna happen. Jesus/Yeshua is with us everyday so why would he still appear in the sky?
1. Jesus Christ informed you

β–  In John 8 vs 31 - 44 that those who reject His teachings and commandments are sons of the devil
β–  In Luke 20 vs 32 - 38, He goes further to explain to you that all will become like the angels at the time of the resurrection

Surely, Jesus Christ already pre-informed you that the devil and his angels are all those born-agains β€” they all have eternal life thanks to Him β€” who reject His teachings aka the goats - Matthew 25 v s 31 - 46 - in the Kingdom of God. undecided

2. Rapture happening everyday? interesting! undecided
Re: Does Your Church Still Preach About Hell Fire, Holy Living, Rapture, Eternity? by Kobojunkie: 10:00pm On May 14, 2023
davillian:
β–  My pastor De use hellfire treats finish us every Sunday.......There is one question he always ask before the end of the service "If rapture takes place right now , will you make heaven?"
He probably does that because he is empty. What is described in scripture that you folks typically refer to as rapture takes place towards the end of the Millenial reign β€” 1000 years of peace on earth β€” and not before. So? undecided
Re: Does Your Church Still Preach About Hell Fire, Holy Living, Rapture, Eternity? by Kobojunkie: 10:01pm On May 14, 2023
LagBlogger:
β–  My Church has always taught timeless truth till date. I hope these become rich on earth and successful in life but poor in Christ churches don't turn one day into pleasure centers. Most people anyways won't go where the truth is taught so I guess we know why they are everywhere.
I am afraid that is a lie because if you research the tales your pastors feed you, you will be able to locate exactly when that theory/doctrine was first cooked up in the minds of men. undecided
Re: Does Your Church Still Preach About Hell Fire, Holy Living, Rapture, Eternity? by Kobojunkie: 10:07pm On May 14, 2023
OKOATA:
β–  When your loved ones die and leaves you behind isn't that rapture?
β–  The scripture says one would go and leave the other behind.
β–  Since 2000yrs Jesus is coming. Another 10M years to this time it will be the same tale bro.
β–  And for your pastor talking about hell ask him can a loving God be evil at the same time? Only an evil entity will tell his son to burn in hell for commiting adultery. Lol
1. How can it be considered rapture when the mind, body, and soul of the dead remains encased within that physical body, after which it physically decays/ceases in the case of one who is not born-again? undecided

2. So, if I leave one behind while on a journey, your interpretation of that too is "rapture"? undecided

3. If you are sick and tired of waiting, you are free to not wait anymore but stop spewing this ridiculousness for an explanation abeg. Making me wonder if the Nigerian school system is to blame for this or what? undecided

4. Didn't scripture explain to you that God created both good and evil? By the way, God says He only loves those who obey His teachings and commandments. How did you come away with Him being a loving God to all when He never said any such? undecided
Re: Does Your Church Still Preach About Hell Fire, Holy Living, Rapture, Eternity? by LagBlogger(m): 10:20pm On May 14, 2023
Kobojunkie:
I am afraid that is a lie because if you research the tales your pastors feed you, you will be able to locate exactly when that theory/doctrine was first cooked up in the minds of men. undecided

Whatever. Not every christian is deluded but if you think so, who cares.
Re: Does Your Church Still Preach About Hell Fire, Holy Living, Rapture, Eternity? by Kobojunkie: 10:26pm On May 14, 2023
LagBlogger:
β–  Whatever. Not every christian is deluded but if you think so, who cares.
If you say so then you shouldn't have any problem showing this to be the case by telling us some of what your pastor tells you as far as the topic, maybe holy living and hell. undecided
Re: Does Your Church Still Preach About Hell Fire, Holy Living, Rapture, Eternity? by LagBlogger(m): 10:46pm On May 14, 2023
Kobojunkie:
If you say so then you shouldn't have any problem showing this to be the case by telling us some of what your pastor tells you as far as the topic, maybe holy living and hell. undecided

It is not worth my effort. A sceptic will never understand nor try to understand.

By the way, I'm an Orthodox Christian.
Re: Does Your Church Still Preach About Hell Fire, Holy Living, Rapture, Eternity? by Kobojunkie: 10:48pm On May 14, 2023
LagBlogger:
β–  It is not worth my effort. A sceptic will never understand nor try to understand. By the way, I'm an Orthodox Christian.
1. I am a follower of Jesus Christ and well aware of how Christianity as a religion is founded not on the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ but rather on doctrines/theories and traditions of men. So I am confidently able to tell you that what even your mog feeds you isn't truth but another twist on the doctrines and traditions of men. undecided
Re: Does Your Church Still Preach About Hell Fire, Holy Living, Rapture, Eternity? by Gospel2Day: 10:56pm On May 14, 2023
[quote author=OloyeVIII post=123125054]Do you think anyone believes in eternity?

Yes, plenty sensible serious minded people believe in eternity. I do too.
Re: Does Your Church Still Preach About Hell Fire, Holy Living, Rapture, Eternity? by wittydee: 10:57pm On May 14, 2023
OKOATA:
When will you humans begin to ever think rationally, have you ever seen someone gone to hell before? It's better you don't talk about what you don't know. A thousand years is like a day before God, I lived a 100 yrs on earth and that's a few hours before God, will God now punish me eternally for a finite sin? If you say God is love, how can a loving God be evil at the same time? If you make it to heaven and you tell God I need to see my loved one and he shows them to you in hell how they are living in pain and crying in anguish will you be happy with such a God?

Just because you are a Christian doesn't mean you shouldn't think moreso as it is done on Earth so it is in Heaven. (Our lord's prayer) Abi have you seen an earthly judge sentence someone to burn in the fire? God is a spirit being, I committed sin as a body and a earthly sin but my punishment is to burn forever as a spirit being? Sentence me here on Earth which is death and let me live eternally unconsciously in the spiritual realm.

[/b] Ecclesiastes 9:5 says, β€œFor the living know that they will die, but the dead know not any thing.” When you die you know nothing. You are not aware of what's going on earth and you are not looking down from heaven because the dead knows nothing. In order to be conscious of anything you must have a soul. [b]


Friend, look at this verse below;

'XDo not be deceived, God is not mocked [He will not allow Himself to be ridiculed, nor treated with contempt nor allow His precepts to be scornfully set aside]; for whatever a man sows, this and this only is what he will reap. For the one who sows to his flesh [his sinful capacity, his worldliness, his disgraceful impulses] will reap from the flesh ruin and destruction, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.''
Galatians 6:7‭-‬8 AMPLIFIED VERSION.

If you can't get the message from these verses of the Bible, then be reminded that God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah with fire, because of there sinful life. What is happening today is worse than what happened then, but God has been giving us the grace to repent. You can't say a Judge is wicked for sending a criminal to jail or a murderer to death. This is dome to samitize the society. God can not put sinner and the righteous in heaven because they will pollute heaven. Heaven is ment to the righteous. The only way we can become righteous before God is by accepting his free gift of Salvation through Jesus Christ.
Re: Does Your Church Still Preach About Hell Fire, Holy Living, Rapture, Eternity? by Chidolalar: 10:57pm On May 14, 2023
OKOATA:
When your loved ones die and leaves you behind isn't that rapture? The scripture says one would go and leave the other behind. Since 2000yrs Jesus is coming. Another 10M years to this time it will be the same tale bro. And for your pastor talking about hell ask him can a loving God be evil at the same time? Only an evil entity will tell his son to burn in hell for commiting adultery. Lol

Exactly my thoughts!
How can a loving God send humans whom he created in his own image and likeness to everlasting burning furnace.
How can a so called merciful God not have mercy on humans he created right from beginning just bcuz they disobeyed him and yet religious nonsense believers and bible will tell u his mercy endureth forever
If his mercy endureth forever then why didn't his mercy endureth forever on Adam and eve after they disobeyed God?
All these tinz and many more makes u doubt and question d Credibility of God

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Re: Does Your Church Still Preach About Hell Fire, Holy Living, Rapture, Eternity? by Tompson88: 11:05pm On May 14, 2023
A Jehovah witnesse spotted[color=#990000][/color]
Hell exist but it's not for humans, that's where devil and his demons live, Heaven exist but only belongs solely to God, Yeshua, Cerubum and Seraphim, Arch angels, Angels, Baby angels and other powerful angels and the likes. When a man dies it's an everlasting unconsciousness, it will be like the same way how we never knew we existed in our mother's womb till we started to think we exist.

Talking about rapture, there's rapture happening everyday, when your loved one dies and leaves you behind is that not rapture? Hoping to wait since 2000years ago thinking Yeshua will appear in the sky is not gonna happen. Jesus/Yeshua is with us everyday so why would he still appear in the sky? [/quote]
Re: Does Your Church Still Preach About Hell Fire, Holy Living, Rapture, Eternity? by Kobojunkie: 11:08pm On May 14, 2023
Chidolalar:
β–  Exactly my thoughts! How can a loving God send humans whom he created in his own image and likeness to everlasting burning furnace.
β–  How can a so called merciful God not have mercy on humans he created right from beginning just bcuz they disobeyed him and yet religious nonsense believers and bible will tell u his mercy endureth forever If his mercy endureth forever then why didn't his mercy endureth forever on Adam and eve after they disobeyed God?
β–  All these tinz and many more makes u doubt and question d Credibility of God
1. God said He only loves those who love Him, and those who love Him are those who obey His teachings and commandments so why is He not allowed to punish His enemies- John 14 vs 15 - 23 & John 15 vs 9 - 11? undecided

2. His mercy and compassion on His enemies He made known from the beginning, is not eternal, so are you certain it is God you have a problem with here? undecided

3. I think the ones you should clearly doubt are those who feed you these ludicrous stories about God as it seems ignorance of His Truth is your major problem here. undecided
Re: Does Your Church Still Preach About Hell Fire, Holy Living, Rapture, Eternity? by Chidolalar: 11:22pm On May 14, 2023
JTwelve:


Hell fire ain't real bro. Eternity is not some far off concept/event, we're all within eternity riightbnow as we speak.

Life is for living, whether holy or otherwise. And if the rapture does occur you'll find out the nature of it is entirely different from all those dire prognostications you've imbibed from your church dogmas and holy books

So what are u trying to say in essence about the rapture
Re: Does Your Church Still Preach About Hell Fire, Holy Living, Rapture, Eternity? by Chidolalar: 11:32pm On May 14, 2023
wittydee:


Brother, God is a just God, he is not partial. All sins are equal before God. God had already warned us that the wages of sin is death (that is eternal destruction in Hell), this can not be changed. God has gone the extra mile to ensure that we escape Hell by providing Jesus to pay for our sins. All we need do is to accept what he done, repent and forsake our sins, confess Jesus as our Lord and savior, and work with God to perfect his will in us.
The choice is ours. God does not send anyone to Hell. If we reject Jesus, we have automatically chose Hell, there nothing more God can do for us. Jesus is the on way to God and eternal life (life In heaven).

[color=#000099]Romans 6:23 - For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.[/color]


So if I have killed thousands of pple and committed all sorts of evil and just accept Jesus by asking for forgiveness from him, then I will be saved right? And my victims who were massacred and murdered by me but who did not accept Jesus or repented will be condemned to everlasting hell right?
U now see how christian religious belief and doctrine is completely NOT credible

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Re: Does Your Church Still Preach About Hell Fire, Holy Living, Rapture, Eternity? by JoeEeL(m): 11:42pm On May 14, 2023
eben97:
it is well. I speak from that axis as we chat here. I understand the system in Nas state with total complexity.it is more than a go ernors matter, it will take the hands of a very neutral God fearing president to attend to this trouble,..we pray the incoming be bold enough to help stem this mess. Most of the tiv christian community in NASS STATE ARE currently under attack, I mean like 99% christian tiv community.so it's a religious ethinic matter b3n aided by the Muslim community around them who also wishes to see them leave Nass state anday be return back to Benue state all over land and space issues

All what uve wrote here, with all due respect, is ... some sense and not much sense.

Number 1, If you say there is attack on TIV in Nassarawa state, trying to pursue them to Benue state back, then why are there attacks in Benue state too?

Number 2, If you think there is attack focusing on TIV, then why are there attacks in all parts of the country?

Number 3, so you don't know TIV are indigenous to not only Benue, but also Nassarawa and Taraba? You nigerians are quite disgraceful, I have to be blunt here. Why do u people tend to always rely on the states created by Nigeria to form opinion about people and where they come from and their indigenous lands? How can you trust such a fulani-controlled crooked country like Nigeria? No wonder some of you believe Igbos are indigenous to only 5 states or that Yorubas are only sectioned to South West.

Number 4, and finally, when they are done with the TIV, they are coming for you! It won't be long that you people will understand what Nnamdi Kanu was calling for and many of you mocked him but when the repercussion boomerangs, it would by then be too late!
Re: Does Your Church Still Preach About Hell Fire, Holy Living, Rapture, Eternity? by Kobojunkie: 11:45pm On May 14, 2023
Chidolalar:
β–  So if I have killed thousands of pple and committed all sorts of evil and just accept Jesus by asking for forgiveness from him, then I will be saved right?
β–  And my victims who were massacred and murdered by me but who did not accept Jesus or repented will be condemned to everlasting hell right?
β–  U now see how christian religious belief and doctrine is completely NOT credible
1. If you killed 1000 people and were sentenced to serve multiple life-terms as a result, is that so much different from God sentencing His "eternal" enemies to eternal damnation? undecided

By the way, you kill 1000 people whether you accept Jesus Christ or not, the Law of the land wouldn't let you get away with your crimes. Accepting Jesus Christ also involves paying off your sins debt as Jesus Christ never promised to purge any one's records for Accepting Him. See, how this again isn't a God problem but a you-ignorance problem? undecided

2. Unless your victims were all equally born-again, they have no chance of Hell to end up in Hell by the way. undecided

3. If you know the religious ideas make no sense, why argue based on them? Why not counter them with facts instead?? undecided
Re: Does Your Church Still Preach About Hell Fire, Holy Living, Rapture, Eternity? by OKOATA(m): 12:19am On May 15, 2023
wittydee:



Friend, look at this verse below;

'XDo not be deceived, God is not mocked [He will not allow Himself to be ridiculed, nor treated with contempt nor allow His precepts to be scornfully set aside]; for whatever a man sows, this and this only is what he will reap. For the one who sows to his flesh [his sinful capacity, his worldliness, his disgraceful impulses] will reap from the flesh ruin and destruction, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.''
Galatians 6:7‭-‬8 AMPLIFIED VERSION.

If you can't get the message from these verses of the Bible, then be reminded that God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah with fire, because of there sinful life. What is happening today is worse than what happened then, but God has been giving us the grace to repent. You can't say a Judge is wicked for sending a criminal to jail or a murderer to death. This is dome to samitize the society. God can not put sinner and the righteous in heaven because they will pollute heaven. Heaven is ment to the righteous. The only way we can become righteous before God is by accepting his free gift of Salvation through Jesus Christ.

If you think that God will send an evil man to hell for murder then you are not serving a true God. Change your mindset bro. Did God send Adam and Eve to hell for eating the forbidden fruit. You can believe in hell but I don't.

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Re: Does Your Church Still Preach About Hell Fire, Holy Living, Rapture, Eternity? by Chidolalar: 12:20am On May 15, 2023
wittydee:



Friend, look at this verse below;

'XDo not be deceived, God is not mocked [He will not allow Himself to be ridiculed, nor treated with contempt nor allow His precepts to be scornfully set aside]; for whatever a man sows, this and this only is what he will reap. For the one who sows to his flesh [his sinful capacity, his worldliness, his disgraceful impulses] will reap from the flesh ruin and destruction, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.''
Galatians 6:7‭-‬8 AMPLIFIED VERSION.

If you can't get the message from these verses of the Bible, then be reminded that God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah with fire, because of there sinful life. What is happening today is worse than what happened then, but God has been giving us the grace to repent. You can't say a Judge is wicked for sending a criminal to jail or a murderer to death. This is dome to samitize the society. God can not put sinner and the righteous in heaven because they will pollute heaven. Heaven is ment to the righteous. The only way we can become righteous before God is by accepting his free gift of Salvation through Jesus Christ.


If God is real and omniscient, that means he has already decided that we are going to hell before he even created us.
If his Gods mercy endureth forever then why didn't that mercy endureth forever right from d beginning when Adam and eve disobeyed God?

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Re: Does Your Church Still Preach About Hell Fire, Holy Living, Rapture, Eternity? by OKOATA(m): 12:24am On May 15, 2023
Kobojunkie:
1. How can it be considered rapture when the mind, body, and soul of the dead remains encased within that physical body, after which it physically decays/ceases in the case of one who is not born-again? undecided

2. So, if I leave one behind while on a journey, your interpretation of that too is "rapture"? undecided

3. If you are sick and tired of waiting, you are free to not wait anymore but stop spewing this ridiculousness for an explanation abeg. Making me wonder if the Nigerian school system is to blame for this or what? undecided

4. Didn't scripture explain to you that God created both good and evil? By the way, God says He only loves those who obey His teachings and commandments. How did you come away with Him being a loving God to all when He never said any such? undecided
So your response to number 3 is Nigerian school system brainwashed me. So what about those here on earth that won't hear the gospel of Christ till they die, will they find themselves in hell after death cos they sinned? Even though no one preached or talked hell to them? So Russian, Ukrainian war, those engaged in war will also find themselves in hell? You don't even know that Angels fought battles here on earth before Ahavah created man in his image, you obviously don't know angels already inhabited our planet before man was even made. They fought wars upon wars and Most High didnt cast them in hell for that, even while in heaven before the detroning and casting Arch Angel Lucifer to mother earth, did God send the Angels that joined Luci in war to hell for fighting? Even those that joined Luci in battle were forgiven by the Most High after they asked for forgiveness. You are quoting a bible verse, I quoted Ecclesiastes that's from the same bible but that my own is verse is useless and out of point abi? Have you seen an earthly judge sentence someone to burn in the fire? I have known you for always talking out of point and you always feel you have the final say. No need wasting my time with you but one thing I know if you believe in hell goodluck to you, j don't believe in it so goodluck to me too.

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