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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by 1stGenAmerican(f): 6:49pm On May 14, 2023
budaatum:
https://wolfstreet.com/2023/05/11/evs-made-the-first-visible-dent-into-gasoline-consumption/

7% is nothing to sneeze at.
Funny but someone in this thread recently made the very false claim that EVs were being sold at surplus from manufacturers because nobody wanted them—-and the demand was for diesel and gas engines. Every year, manufacturers introduce more hybrid and EV models while trimming fully gas/diesel models while more consumers migrate to hybrid and EV models.
If the vehicle costs are nearly the same, how many people will purposely buy one that fills up on $75 instead of one that fills up on $35, has a more comprehensive warranty, and entitles the buyer to a sizable tax credit? The numbers are telling the truth.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IMAliyu2: 9:57pm On May 14, 2023
basilico:


The guy did not just chokehold for no reason .

I from what I found on the wiki page.

He made broad threats, vented frustration, but didn't physically attack anyone.
The threats were not directly targeted at anyone either.
His threats were characteristic of a person down on their luck going through an episode.

Was he distributing other passengers? yes he was.

Was the force used to subdue him, that led to his death justified and proportional to the situation? No.
I have a very limited knowledge of marshall arts, but aren't chokeholds deadly and held for only a few seconds to subdue someone?
There is video evidence of the accused holding it for over 3mins, talk less of the alleged 15mins.
I think the manslaughter charges are warranted.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 8:09am On May 15, 2023
IMAliyu2:


I from what I found on the wiki page.

He made broad threats, vented frustration, but didn't physically attack anyone.
The threats were not directly targeted at anyone either.
His threats were characteristic of a person down on their luck going through an episode.

Was he distributing other passengers? yes he was.

Was the force used to subdue him, that led to his death justified and proportional to the situation? No.
I have a very limited knowledge of marshall arts, but aren't chokeholds deadly and held for only a few seconds to subdue someone?
There is video evidence of the accused holding it for over 3mins, talk less of the alleged 15mins.
I think the manslaughter charges are warranted.


Anyway more shall be revealed during the trial. One thing is that this whole episode has been turned to a rce thing.
I expect the jury to convict him
In my opinion he did not mean to kill him .
The guy had been a ting erratically yes, passengers on the subway had participated in subduing him. He was on a watchlist of homeless people that needed close attention, possibly confinement till he became straight. The system failed him, the system shall get it's scalp.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 11:26am On May 15, 2023
basilico:
In my opinion he did not mean to kill him.

In no sensible person's opinion did he mean to kill him. That's why the charge is manslaughter and not murder.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 11:32am On May 15, 2023
budaatum:


In no sensible person's opinion did he mean to kill him. That's why the charge is manslaughter and not murder.

I gather that you are racist to the core.If a blek kills a blek, I hear crickets chirp.
If a white kills a black as is won't to happen and will happen Muh racist overtones rue the day, you get all race baiters on the forefront Examples of racist bashers..Mainly blek

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 5:20pm On May 15, 2023
1stGenAmerican:


And if such evidence existed, the GOP Committee would’ve produced it by now. At this point, it’s hearsay and conspiracies.

---Even Trump-appointed US Attorney David Weiss has been investigating the Bidens for over 4 years with NO LIMITS placed on his scope---If there were any laws broken by anyone named Biden---there would have been some indictment---All they found are a couple potential tax and gun crimes on Hunter---

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 9:06pm On May 15, 2023
Durham finds DOJ, FBI 'failed to uphold' mission of 'strict fidelity to the law' in Trump-Russia probe

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/durham-doj-fbi-failed-uphold-mission-strict-fidelity-law-trump-russia-probe

---And 4 years after---the SC Durham fail to indict Hillary Clinton, Obama and members of his administration---

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 10:28pm On May 15, 2023
---John Durham full report---which was delivered to Merrick Garland last Friday and to Congressional Committee earlier today---interesting that this wasn't leaked in the press even though the report was given to Congress---probably there isn't much in it for the GOP to feast upon---

https://www.justice.gov/storage/durhamreport.pdf

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 8:54am On May 16, 2023
feedthenation:
---John Durham full report---which was delivered to Merrick Garland last Friday and to Congressional Committee earlier today---interesting that this wasn't leaked in the press even though the report was given to Congress---probably there isn't much in it for the GOP to feast upon---

https://www.justice.gov/storage/durhamreport.pdf

The report reveals that the DoJ and FBI had no reason to open any investigation.
The media. was used to disseminate lies that they all knew. A coordinated attempt to use lies in order to overthrow a legit govt.
See their coordinated talking points. Highly centrallised instructions to media on what to say on air.
Trump should sue these effing fools to high heaven


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ab6uxg908

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 11:26am On May 16, 2023
basilico:


The report reveals that the DoJ and FBI had no reason to open any investigation.
The media. was used to disseminate lies that they all knew. A coordinated attempt to use lies in order to overthrow a legit govt.
See their coordinated talking points. Highly centrallised instructions to media on what to say on air.
Trump should sue these effing fools to high heaven


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ab6uxg908

---Donald J. Trump doesn't have the balls to sue the FBI or DoJ---he will lose in a big way---

Mueller probe: 34 indictments, multiple felony convictions, within 2 years

Durham probe: 3 indictments, two acquittals at trial, one conviction for a misdemeanor, after 4 years

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 12:23pm On May 16, 2023
feedthenation:


---Donald J. Trump doesn't have the balls to sue the FBI or DoJ---he will lose in a big way---

Mueller probe: 34 indictments, multiple felony convictions, within 2 years

Durham probe: 3 indictments, two acquittals at trial, one conviction for a misdemeanor, after 4 years



The DoJ framed him. They can't afford to lose to lose lest they be seen as as impartial.

Robert Mueller probe. 34 indictments . Pure optics. None of the indicted were of Russia collusion. Lying to FBI , tax evasion, 20 something Russians in Russia who will never show up for trial,Pure optics to show there was some crimes.

Durham indictments. 3 indictments on some FBI linked cohorts. One lied brazenly,jury found him clean. Another lawyer lied and was given a suspended sentence and got his law licence back.

In short the DoJ and FBI cannot be expected to convict their own.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 12:53pm On May 16, 2023
feedthenation:


---Donald J. Trump doesn't have the balls to sue the FBI or DoJ---he will lose in a big way---

Mueller probe: 34 indictments, multiple felony convictions, within 2 years

Durham probe: 3 indictments, two acquittals at trial, one conviction for a misdemeanor, after 4 years



You're even given him to much credit. The one conviction he received was forwarded from the IG investigation, whose report came to a different conclusion (the FBI was warranted in opening their investigation). In his 4 years he did nothing but bring 2 cases to the Jury which the Jury unanimously said "Nope" to and acquitted. Which is a hard thing to happen to a Federal prosecutor with the power of the Fed government and subpoenas.

But this what Republican Investigations always look like. The goal is just to allude to wrongdoing so the right wing echo chamber can pick it up. There is never any "there" there.
Benghazi - 12 Hearings, nada
Durham - 4 years, lost 2 cases
Biden - Ongoing, Supposedly "Lost" the informant and 9/10 of the witnesses are supposedly in Court or in Jail.

It's a feature not a bug of Republican investigations. It's weaponization of Government for Political ends.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 12:57pm On May 16, 2023
I'm surprised this wasn't posted.
For those who reflexively support white supremacists, it has real world implications.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a43893605/jack-teixiera-race-war-posts/

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 1:07pm On May 16, 2023
budaatum:


Funny isn't it. Nigeria, poor as it is, ought to be providing food for its school children but America is bulking at providing for its.

Tax payers should pay for it. 1% tax on annual income over 10m would probably do it. But paying to feed children will increase birthrates, but according to warped minded magas, Democrats can't be having none of that because it reduces profit from abortions.

I think if you did a national referendum, people would be willing to pay extra taxes to give children free food while they are in school. Republican legislators seem to be opposed to it though. Republican's view of Christianity is weird to me.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 4:17pm On May 16, 2023
The Seven Mountain Mandate is part of dominionism.[5]

Followers claim that the biblical base for the movement is derived from Revelation 17:1–18, wherein verse 9 reads, "And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains".[5] The seven areas which the movement believe control society and which they seek to control are family, religion, education, media, entertainment, business, and government.[5] They believe that their mission to take over the world is justified by Isaiah 2:2 "Now it shall come to pass in the latter days that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established on the top of the mountains."[4]

Followers believe that by fulfilling the Seven Mountain Mandate they can bring about the end times.[4]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Mountain_Mandate
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IMAliyu2: 6:20pm On May 16, 2023
IjeBos:


I think if you did a national referendum, people would be willing to pay extra taxes to give children free food while they are in school. Republican legislators seem to be opposed to it though. Republican's view of Christianity is weird to me.

Probably comes from McCarthy era, red scare brain rot.
Free school lunches is socialism
socialism is when the government does things
socialism = evil

That sort of line of thinking.

This is probably why they are against socialized healthcare, as well among other reasons

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Weregonnalose: 7:40pm On May 16, 2023
feedthenation:


---Donald J. Trump doesn't have the balls to sue the FBI or DoJ---he will lose in a big way---

Mueller probe: 34 indictments, multiple felony convictions, within 2 years

Durham probe: 3 indictments, two acquittals at trial, one conviction for a misdemeanor, after 4 years



oh look ah eddiot
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raskymonojendor: 9:54pm On May 16, 2023

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by 1stGenAmerican(f): 10:10pm On May 16, 2023
raskymonojendor:

First Sarah Palin, then delusional MGT, now Lauren. Righteous Lauren was a teen baby mama before getting married. Her young teen son also just became a baby daddy and earned himself a first offense OWI.
The Party of Family values, right? 😏

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by 1stGenAmerican(f): 10:12pm On May 16, 2023
1stGenAmerican:


First Sarah Palin, then delusional MGT, now Lauren. Righteous Lauren was a teen baby mama before getting married. Her young teen son also just became a baby daddy and earned himself a first offense OWI.
The party of Christian family values, right? 😏
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 10:19pm On May 16, 2023
Rudy Giuliani 'demanded MouthAction while on phone to Trump'

https://news.yahoo.com/rudy-giuliani-accused-coercing-ex-033519722.html

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 10:24pm On May 16, 2023
1stGenAmerican:


First Sarah Palin, then delusional MGT, now Lauren. Righteous Lauren was a teen baby mama before getting married. Her young teen son also just became a baby daddy and earned himself a first offense OWI.
The Party of Family values, right? 😏

---of course they are following their Supreme Dear Leader---who is twice divorced---

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 3:12am On May 17, 2023
feedthenation:
Rudy Giuliani 'demanded MouthAction while on phone to Trump'

https://news.yahoo.com/rudy-giuliani-accused-coercing-ex-033519722.html




Holy Sh*t. And she has recordings? Stranger than fiction. Everyone around Trump is a complete fraud.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordAdam16: 9:49am On May 17, 2023
1stGenAmerican:


7% is nothing to sneeze at.
Funny but someone in this thread recently made the very false claim that EVs were being sold at surplus from manufacturers because nobody wanted them—-and the demand was for diesel and gas engines. Every year, manufacturers introduce more hybrid and EV models while trimming fully gas/diesel models while more consumers migrate to hybrid and EV models.
If the vehicle costs are nearly the same, how many people will purposely buy one that fills up on $75 instead of one that fills up on $35, has a more comprehensive warranty, and entitles the buyer to a sizable tax credit? The numbers are telling the truth.

Stick to legal matters, which is your forte.

EVs are a huge money pit for anyone but Tesla. ICE are still amazing money minting machines for every legacy automaker.

Taxpayers (through subsidies) and ICE buyers are subsidizing the EV revolution.

I don't have a problem with it. I'm pro green energy. The Model S Plaid, Lucid Air, Mach-E are great feats of engineering; but the economics is not a slam dunk.

Also, if you understand economics, gas prices should fall as EV adoption surges; while electricity rates with its regional oligopolies will continue to rise.

And if you think EVs are not going to cost as much to maintain/operate as ICE in the future, you have no idea how Western policymakers think. The whole EV is cheaper than ICE is a talking point to gin up adoption. And when the numbers are high enough and ICE is on death throes, away goes the tax credit and in come the new taxes to make up for lost revenue from ICE owners.

-Lord

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordAdam16: 10:46am On May 17, 2023
IMAliyu2:


Probably comes from McCarthy era, red scare brain rot.
Free school lunches is socialism
socialism is when the government does things
socialism = evil

That sort of line of thinking.

This is probably why they are against socialized healthcare, as well among other reasons

No. It's the creep in demands.

At first it was free school lunch for K-12. Sounds reasonable. Now, it is universal free breakfast, lunch, dinner plus snack. How long do kids stay in school for?

Also no, money does not grow on trees. Every year a debt limit showdown happens. We're currently living through one such showdown where the so-called "largest economy of the world" has to raise the debt ceiling so it does not default on existing debt.

Property taxes pay for school spending. And anyone here who actually lives in America knows housing costs are already through the roof. Moreover even liberal states usually have homestead exemptions and stuff that limit how much tax can be siphoned off property owners.

But let's just raise 1% on those earning $10m+ in annual income. Pray tell, wiseass, how many people earn above $10m+ in the US? And how much they already pay in taxes. @1stGenAmerican is a lawyer. Maybe she has friends in biglaw. She should ask her friends about their effective tax rate, even when they only make a fraction of $10m per year.

I mean they already pay 55% in federal, state, and county taxes in some locales (and that's beside sales and property taxes). But sure, let's add another 1% to pay for universal free food. And another 2% in wealth tax. And another 1% to increase funding to shelter illegal immigrants. And another 1% for the homeless. And another 1% for the crumbling infrastructure. And another 2% for reparations. And another 1% to combat climate change. And another 1% to beef up social security.

CLOWNS!

But no, you're not socialist or communist. You just want someone else to give up what 60+% of their paycheck to pay for free sh*t when the list only expands. Sure thing, comrade!

Then when anyone pushes back, the narrative becomes these evil people want kids to starve. Even after taxpayers already fund school cafeterias, EBT, CPS, and grants to food banks and nutrition advocacy groups. Nothing will ever be enough for you dregs and gluttons.

-Lord

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IMAliyu2: 11:26am On May 17, 2023
So much for freespeech

Twitter censoring criticisms of president Erdogan

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IMAliyu2: 12:57pm On May 17, 2023
LordAdam16:


No. It's the creep in demands.

At first it was free school lunch for K-12. Sounds reasonable. Now, it is universal free breakfast, lunch, dinner plus snack. How long do kids stay in school for?

If you agree with the ethicality of providing school kids food.

Then I have no problem with agreeing and disagreeing what are and aren't reasonable demands.
Free breakfast and lunch? This seems reasonable.
Dinner and snacks? I don't know, school hours don't usually extend long enough to warrant dinner, except maybe I'm wrong here.

Something the lawmakers should be discussing, don't you agree?


Also no, money does not grow on trees. Every year a debt limit showdown happens. We're currently living through one such showdown where the so-called "largest economy of the world" has to raise the debt ceiling so it does not default on existing debt.
There's always taxpayer money for other things like the afghan occupation which costed the US between 100-50 billion annually before leaving, and the current aid to Ukraine estimated to be about 75 billion currently.
But when it comes to the topics of programs that aid the American people that would cost a fraction of all that then there's a debt ceiling to consider.
Twisted sense of priorities.

Property taxes pay for school spending. And anyone here who actually lives in America knows housing costs are already through the roof. Moreover even liberal states usually have homestead exemptions and stuff that limit how much tax can be siphoned off property owners.
Yeah housing costs are going up, how does this relate?
School funding being dependant on property taxes has its own issues.
But no one is talking about raising property taxes here.


But let's just raise 1% on those earning $10m+ in annual income. Pray tell, wiseass, how many people earn above $10m+ in the US? And how much they already pay in taxes.
If you've already earned above 10m I doubt an extra 1% tax on earnings above 10m is going to affect your quality of life



[s] @1stGenAmerican is a lawyer. Maybe she has friends in biglaw. She should ask her friends about their effective tax rate, even when they only make a fraction of $10m per year[/s]

Irrelevant to me.


I mean they already pay 55% in federal, state, and county taxes in some locales (and that's beside sales and property taxes). But sure, let's add another 1% to pay for universal free food. And another 2% in wealth tax. And another 1% to increase funding to shelter illegal immigrants. And another 1% for the homeless. And another 1% for the crumbling infrastructure. And another 2% for reparations. And another 1% to combat climate change. And another 1% to beef up social security.
Your argument is basically the slippery slope fallacy.

Or you know, take a fraction of out of the 1 trillion military budget instead.

You seem to not understand, I don't mind paying taxes, and I assume most people as well as long as those taxes go to programs that measurably makes society better, in this case it's providing food for school kids for fck sake.


CLOWNS!

But no, you're not socialist or communist. You just want someone else to give up what 60+% of their paycheck to pay for free sh*t when the list only expands. Sure thing, comrade!
Communism is when people pay taxes.
Big brain stuff right here.

Yes free school lunches and healthcare would be based actually.

Then when anyone pushes back, the narrative becomes these evil people want kids to starve.
Could you give me examples of the said push back?


Even after taxpayers already fund school cafeterias, EBT, CPS, and grants to food banks and nutrition advocacy groups. Nothing will ever be enough for you dregs and gluttons.
So your just complaining that taxpayer money will be used to prove free school lunches, cry me a river.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by 1stGenAmerican(f): 3:23pm On May 17, 2023
LordAdam16:


Stick to legal matters, which is your forte.

EVs are a huge money pit for anyone but Tesla. ICE are still amazing money minting machines for every legacy automaker.

Taxpayers (through subsidies) and ICE buyers are subsidizing the EV revolution.

I don't have a problem with it. I'm pro green energy. The Model S Plaid, Lucid Air, Mach-E are great feats of engineering; but the economics is not a slam dunk.

Also, if you understand economics, gas prices should fall as EV adoption surges; while electricity rates with its regional oligopolies will continue to rise.

And if you think EVs are not going to cost as much to maintain/operate as ICE in the future, you have no idea how Western policymakers think. The whole EV is cheaper than ICE is a talking point to gin up adoption. And when the numbers are high enough and ICE is on death throes, away goes the tax credit and in come the new taxes to make up for lost revenue from ICE owners.

-Lord

This doesn’t seem to be your forte either. Is your POV from an owner’s standpoint? I’m on my second and third EVs and I speak from experience—I know what I know. You said that EVs are a huge money pit with the exception of Tesla and as a former Tesla owner, I’m here to tell you that you’re absolutely wrong. Teslas have numerous pitfalls, including things that should be simple like bodywork after an accident. You also seemed to skip over the part where I said that the warranties are much more comprehensive, most covering the entire vehicle for up to 100,000 miles with extended warranties available which makes them much cheaper and easier to maintain/operate.
During the ice storms of the last two years, so many EV owners were able to get warm by sitting in their vehicles and using the heaters because the charges lasted for days while power was being restored to homes. The advantages outweigh the disadvantages.
You’re saying electricity rates should rise so it seems as though you don’t understand that not all models are charged the same way and hybrids don’t require plugging in to charge.
Please respect my opinion as you expect yours to be respected.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by 1stGenAmerican(f): 3:36pm On May 17, 2023
IMAliyu2:

If you agree with the ethicality of providing school kids food.

Then I have no problem with agreeing and disagreeing what are and aren't reasonable demands.
Free breakfast and lunch? This seems reasonable.
Dinner and snacks? I don't know, school hours don't usually extend long enough to warrant dinner, except maybe I'm wrong here.

Something the lawmakers should be discussing, don't you agree?


There's always taxpayer money for other things like the afghan occupation which costed the US between 100-50 billion annually before leaving, and the current aid to Ukraine estimated to be about 75 billion currently.
But when it comes to the topics of programs that aid the American people that would cost a fraction of all that then there's a debt ceiling to consider.
Twisted sense of priorities.

Yeah housing costs are going up, how does this relate?
School funding being dependant on property taxes has its own issues.
But no one is talking about raising property taxes here.


If you've already earned above 10m I doubt an extra 1% tax on earnings above 10m is going to affect your quality of life


Irrelevant to me.


Your argument is basically the slippery slope fallacy.

Or you know, take a fraction of out of the 1 trillion military budget instead.

You seem to not understand, I don't mind paying taxes, and I assume most people as well as long as those taxes go to programs that measurably makes society better, in this case it's providing food for school kids for fck sake.


Communism is when people pay taxes.
Big brain stuff right here.

Yes free school lunches and healthcare would be based actually.

Could you give me examples of the said push back?


So your just complaining that taxpayer money will be used to prove free school lunches, cry me a river.

Stated with excellence and accuracy.
As a person who took the time to read about why the Dems felt this move for 3 meals and snacks is necessary, I don’t have a problem at all. It’s meant to proactively combat food insecurity. The thought is that meals at school may be the only hot and complete meals some children receive at all—same premise as summer feeding programs that exist all over the US.
Taxpayer money is used for a large number of things that don’t benefit the American people—an example is over $700 million in foreign aid sent to Nigeria every year—and that’s just one country. No one mentions the debt ceiling when foreign aid is discussed. People who don’t have complete understanding of how things work like to mention taxpayer money and they’re almost always wrong. Republicans cry about ‘all their tax money’ being used for SNAP benefits when the average taxpayer contributes a whopping $30 per year towards EBT when it’s all said and done—they also forget to mention the huge amounts of people in red states and in their own party receiving those benefits.
The only people who usually cry about taxpayer money being used are people who pay very little taxes and people who don’t pay taxes at all. I’ll just assume that they forgot that the parents of those schoolchildren pay taxes also.
Not everyone who talks about communism and socialism really understand either.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 3:36pm On May 17, 2023
IMAliyu2:

If you agree with the ethicality of providing school kids food.

Then I have no problem with agreeing and disagreeing what are and aren't reasonable demands.
Free breakfast and lunch? This seems reasonable.
Dinner and snacks? I don't know, school hours don't usually extend long enough to warrant dinner, except maybe I'm wrong here.

Something the lawmakers should be discussing, don't you agree?


There's always taxpayer money for other things like the afghan occupation which costed the US between 100-50 billion annually before leaving, and the current aid to Ukraine estimated to be about 75 billion currently.
But when it comes to the topics of programs that aid the American people that would cost a fraction of all that then there's a debt ceiling to consider.
Twisted sense of priorities.

Yeah housing costs are going up, how does this relate?
School funding being dependant on property taxes has its own issues.
But no one is talking about raising property taxes here.


If you've already earned above 10m I doubt an extra 1% tax on earnings above 10m is going to affect your quality of life


Irrelevant to me.


Your argument is basically the slippery slope fallacy.

Or you know, take a fraction of out of the 1 trillion military budget instead.

You seem to not understand, I don't mind paying taxes, and I assume most people as well as long as those taxes go to programs that measurably makes society better, in this case it's providing food for school kids for fck sake.


Communism is when people pay taxes.
Big brain stuff right here.

Yes free school lunches and healthcare would be based actually.

Could you give me examples of the said push back?


So your just complaining that taxpayer money will be used to prove free school lunches, cry me a river.

Was going to reply. But you seemed to have covered all the bases.

An aside: I think we as a country need to talk about Economic patriotism as a form of Patriotism. Elizabeth Warren gave a good speech on this. People out of highschool sometimes fight and die for the security and stability that allows someone in the US to be a Billionaire, but asking them to pay more in taxes is a bridge to far? I don't agree.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by 1stGenAmerican(f): 3:41pm On May 17, 2023
IjeBos:


Was going to reply. But you seemed to have covered all the bases.

I’m struggling, trying to think about what kind of person would be against this. Pandemic EBT received very little pushback and millions of households benefitted, even those that didn’t meet the traditional income requirements so why this?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by 1stGenAmerican(f): 3:45pm On May 17, 2023
IjeBos:

An aside: I think we as a country need to talk about Economic patriotism as a form of Patriotism. Elizabeth Warren gave a good speech on this. People out of highschool sometimes fight and die for the security and stability that allows someone in the US to be a Billionaire, but asking them to pay more in taxes is a bridge to far? I don't agree.

Economic Patriotism.
Beautiful point. Much of our military is made up of people straight out of high school, some even enlist and report for boot camp before their senior year. These are the people on the ground defending democracy but the people who benefit from that democracy have a problem with providing free meals while their in school?
This makes me think of people who migrate here and immediately look for ways to avoid taxes and also those who live in countries that receive foreign aid from us yearly but criticize the ‘high taxes’, saying it could never be them paying it. Everyone wants to benefit but so many want to benefit while complaining about where the contributions come from.

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