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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by mayo47(m): 8:27pm On May 25, 2023 |
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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Kennyliga112: 8:29pm On May 25, 2023 |
Please wanted to ask can a student switch to Tier 2 without finishing is course? Hope it won’t affect or she should wait and finish and switch ? Asking cause her course will end by May and she as Cos offer right now .. please candid advice will be appreciated |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 8:39pm On May 25, 2023 |
AirBay: Please stop with all this fantastical talk. Yes , most Nigerians are hardworking and smart, and have done well over the decades in the UK ( there are quite a few British Nigerian MPs as an example) and no doubt will continue to do well. But the UK is not "afraid" of Nigerians taking over. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 8:45pm On May 25, 2023 |
Zahra29: The governments policy is not for international students to return. That is what the anti-imigration public think and are told by those in government. Certainly not what those who plan govt policies think. It's good you mentioned 2020. Guess what else happened then? This is Priti Patel and the UK high commissioner markerting the PSW to Indians. It clearly states '...recruit and retain the best and brightest global talent'. There is no mention of return home. The PSW was introduced for a clear reason- with Brexit, the UK wanted more money from more students. The government was not content with £24 billion in economic activity international students generate yearly. They wanted more. Target is to 'export' £35b in education every year. To put things in perspective, the total budget for the Department of health and social care for this year is £180b. The country this year is poised to escape a recession. Lord knows the role these tax paying folks have played 4 Likes
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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by AirBay: 8:46pm On May 25, 2023 |
Zahra29: The number of dependents coming in is unstainable but the 200k refugees paying £0 is sustainable? Yes, the dependents will reduce now, let's see who is really putting pressure on the system. Kindly go through this https://www.totalstudentcare.com/news/2022/09/nigerian-students-saw-the-largest-increase-in-uk-visa-in-2022/18/ VS https://www.local.gov.uk/parliament/briefings-and-responses/homelessness-among-ukrainian-refugees-uk-house-commons-14-march#:~:text=As%20of%2020%20February%202023,Ukrainians%20settle%20in%20the%20UK. As of 20 February 2023, Councils have helped 163,500 Ukrainians settle in the UK. This has included 47,800 arrivals via Ukraine Family Scheme and 115,800 arrivals via Ukraine Sponsorship Scheme. Who is putting pressure on the system? 4 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 8:46pm On May 25, 2023 |
Goke7: Bringing nothing? Literally running for their lives is less important than a master's degree? If roles were reversed and Nigerians were fleeing war and disaster, would you be happy if Canada said oh sorry you have to wait, we have to process the visas of these other guys first because $15k for a master's course is no joke you know. God will help you while you wait 🙏 |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 8:52pm On May 25, 2023 |
AirBay: I am not, I graduated a long-ish time ago. You expect refugees to pay their way into a safe country ? And if they are not able to pay their way, you expect them to give way to fee paying students? Besides, did you know that most Ukrainian refugees claim they would love to return home to rebuild as soon as it's safe to do so? So the gov is not expecting most of them to remain here forever. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 8:53pm On May 25, 2023 |
Zahra29:Let’s stop being political bro, Nigerians fleeing ukraine were held back while others were let go, it has happened also in Sudan so it’s nothing new at all or were those ones not running for their lives too 3 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by AirBay: 8:54pm On May 25, 2023 |
Zahra29: How many Refugees have returned to their home country? After they have given birth to 3-5 children who are now citizens. 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 8:57pm On May 25, 2023 |
Zahra29: Many Nigerians will not remain in the uk too, for so many the Uk is a transition point. Many will not get work visas so they can’t stay and from statistics Nigerians have much less overstayers compared to other nationalities. A lot will surely return home or relocate elsewhere. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 8:59pm On May 25, 2023 |
AirBay: Isn't Ukraine still at war? It's also mainly the women and children who came here. Most of the men stayed back to fight for their country |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 8:59pm On May 25, 2023 |
Peerielass: No one challenges whether it's our country or not. What we're saying is you can't eat your cake and have it. Good your example was seeking a first degreee and had a partial scholarship. Even for a Uk masters where student loans are freely available with gradual payback over a long period, many British graduates do not think it worth the spend for lots of fields. I have not come across a British grad who is willing to pay 15 k plus lots of other fees to study an unknown masters. There may be few but in the extreme minority. An average international masters student with a family of 2-4 would spend upwards of 30-50k from pocket over the masters, PSW and T2 period while maintaining a good social record before they get a permanent stay. They would give 7-9 years of their productive life to the British economy. If I am paying that much, it is well in order to demand a good deal. There is no entitlement in that. 10 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by AirBay: 9:00pm On May 25, 2023 |
Goke7: I weak. Its simple maths.. you brought in 100k people to your home, they pay £1 each, you brought another 200k people who pays £0. Now, you're complaining that the 100k are the ones causing economic issue. UK should go and sit down somewhere 9 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by AirBay: 9:02pm On May 25, 2023 |
Zahra29: So women and Children cannot put pressure on system, na men alone dy apply pressure? ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Peerielass: 9:03pm On May 25, 2023 |
Goke7: Could this be because the Nigerian men were struggling for spaces on trains and buses with Ukrainian women and children? There were hardly any Ukrainian men between 18 and 60 fleeing Ukraine except those that were disabled. Of course the women and children will be prioritised over able bodied black men. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Chuukwudi(m): 9:06pm On May 25, 2023 |
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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 9:08pm On May 25, 2023 |
Peerielass: We’re they not all running for their lives? Why are we making excuses for other nationalities when it borders on humanity but look away when it concerns Nigerians. You expect Nigerians to remain in a war zone when they are not citizens of that nation. were some not international students? Haba 4 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by kwakudtraveller(m): 9:09pm On May 25, 2023 |
Zahra29:This is not the conversation but didn’t Ukrainians stop Nigerians from fleeing by blocking access to transportation. Both men, women and children. If the roles were reversed, Nigerians would not be given priority, Africans would not even be considered so let’s not even start this conversation. And then where you said that students are expected to leave after study, no they are not. They are expected to find work, that is the whole point of the PSW Visa. They expect skilled students to fill up roles in high demand. And that is why they also keep introducing new migrant visas. 70% of the technical guys in my company are foreigners with strong accents and not Brits. These legislators are not fooling anyone, they very much want our money that’s why they want Phd students to still bring in their dependants. Do you know how much Phd costs per year? Top that with the IHS fees you keep downplaying. This conversation triggers me because I came in here as a dependant. I understand that it’s their country and their rules but like people have rightly said, they cannot eat their cake and have it and for another poster to call us entitled is downright silly, after all, they cajoled us into coming here by loosening their policies. If they want to tighten their laws, by all means they should. But us being resistant to it is valid and not entitled. 6 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 9:12pm On May 25, 2023 |
Goke7: Apologies, I misunderstood what you meant. I thought you meant that Nigerians were held back from processing a student visa while they focused on the Ukrainian situation Agreed,it was definitely unfair the way Nigerian students were held back in Ukraine, but those were the actions of the eastern Europeans, not Britain |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 9:12pm On May 25, 2023 |
AirBay: It’s all discrimination and bias profiling. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 9:17pm On May 25, 2023 |
jedisco: I won't go into detail on this as I've already posted relevant government statements on this matter. But all I'll say is that if the government didn't want or expect students to return home, then they would make the student or PSW route count towards settlement, ie it would be an immigrant route just like Tier 2 or a spousal visa - like Canada. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 9:18pm On May 25, 2023 |
kwakudtraveller: @bolded BIGGEST FACT in the whole wide world! 3 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by semmyk(m): 9:21pm On May 25, 2023 |
The term I relate with is Skilled Worker The short response, here, is that as at 25 May '23, a person on student visa can switch to Skilled Worker visa https://www.gov.uk/skilled-worker-visa/switch-to-this-visa Kennyliga112:PS: Kindly refer to part 2 for more details. Inbtw, this is one of the hot potato discussion going on with all the narratives!!! |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 9:22pm On May 25, 2023 |
AirBay: Both. But one group fled the invasion of their home country, so public sentiment is different |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Peerielass: 9:25pm On May 25, 2023 |
Since it’s all about the money post graduates and their families bring into the UK, I don’t see anyone up in arms questioning why undergraduates that spend way more money in this country on education aren’t allowed to bring dependants in? This is where the main injustice lies. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Madeu(m): 9:26pm On May 25, 2023 |
AirBay:I was telling someone this on Tuesday. My department employed five international recruits last year. The five were Nigerians. Learnt another one is coming this year. A lot of my Senior colleagues are always furious when lot of Nigerians in Nigeira apply for job vacancies. . |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 9:31pm On May 25, 2023 |
jedisco: That you have not come across them does not mean that they do not exist. They do, in droves. I have conducted recruitment interviews for postgraduates from leading universities and majority were British (white, Asian, black etc), followed by Chinese and Indian nationals. International students currently account for only 18% of universities' income, so please stop making it sound like the UK is full of uneducated and unskilled folk. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 9:36pm On May 25, 2023 |
Peerielass: 💯 Thank you! I've tried to make this point several times. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 9:44pm On May 25, 2023 |
Peerielass: have you checked the data for international undergraduates? start from there and let's continue the conversation |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 9:48pm On May 25, 2023 |
kwakudtraveller: Every non-white immigrant will have been triggered at some point by government rhetoric or policy. That is par the course. How do you think the windrush folk felt? Do you know what many physically went through during the " hostile" phase? And these are people, many of whom brought here legally at 3 years old by their parents, who lost their livelihood, homes and even lives because of hostile and unfair gov policy |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Peerielass: 9:55pm On May 25, 2023 |
Goke7: Please enlighten me on how the post graduate students are more deserving of dependant visa than their undergraduate counterpart. 1 Like
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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by dustydee: 9:57pm On May 25, 2023 |
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