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Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ: 3:48am On Jun 14, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:It is appointed for man to die once. God has the power to break this by resurecting the dead. God even didn't allow most of these resurrected people in The Bible to become Dust! Tell me, what happened to Elijah? When did he become dust? |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by Kobojunkie: 3:51am On Jun 14, 2023 |
TenQ:1. Jesus Christ said His followers have the power to raise those who are dead back to life. The same Jesus Christ also said to someone else, "Let the dead bury their dead." 2. Who cares? I just read of a woman who was declared dead but found alive many days afterward. What has that to do with anything? 3. Adherants to the religion of Christianity believe in miracles don't mean miracles only happen to them. Jesus Christ made clear that God pours out the very same favor/kindness/mercy/compassion on all living beings including the wicked and the ungrateful. Well, you may choose to relate miracles to natural laws but God's Law is not natural Law and His Law is unchanging — everlasting. If you don't know the difference between your "natural law" and God's Law, you have no business pretending to know God. |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by Kobojunkie: 3:58am On Jun 14, 2023 |
TenQ:1. Really? Lazarus, the friend of Jesus Christ, likely died more than once. So, it is either you fail to grasp the message intended by the one you quote or you are accusing him or her of falsehood. 2. Rubbish! God does need to break anything. He is the one who instituted the judgment that is called Death in Genesis 3 vs 19 in response to Adam's transgression of His Law. God is also the one who instituted Death as a judgment against Sin in His order Law to the people of Israel in the land of Canaan - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. The same God is the one who instituted Eternal Damnation(complete with an afterlife) as judgment for those in His other law to the sinners of Israel - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46. God has no need to break anything since it is all as described in His Law and Plan. 3. Huh? 4. Elijah was a man approved righteous by God in His Old Law at the time he was taken away, only to be reborn hundreds of years later as John the Baptist. For what reason would Elijah have had reason to be turned to dust? |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ: 4:09am On Jun 14, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:See how you are confusing yourself : Only God has the right to allow a bend in the normal laws of nature AND He does that to whoever He wills Christian or no Christian! The result of any such bend in the laws of nature is that praise and honour goes back to God. Miracles happen sometimes because a Christian prays to God and many times, miracles are not even solicited But God through His mercies does it. Tell me if a Boeing 747 crash and a person survives that it's not a miracle from God. Don't you realise that EVEYTHING we receive here on earth was GIVEN by God!? 1Cor 4:7: "For who makes you to differ from another? and what have you that you did not receive? now if you did receive it, why do you glory, as if you had not received it?" |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ: 4:12am On Jun 14, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:So there are exceptions to that you argue mindlessly about!? The spirit of argument has possessed you! |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by Kobojunkie: 4:22am On Jun 14, 2023 |
TenQ:1. Hell has nothing to do with natural Law but God's Law, and if you made that bit clear when you quoted from scripture in your attempts to provide backing for what happened to this atheist's story. So, please stop diving back and forth. Try to focus instead. There are no exceptions provided in God's Law as far as His declarations and judgments. |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ: 4:32am On Jun 14, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:As long as even you can attest to the fact that God has power to make an exception out of anything, my case is made. |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by Kobojunkie: 4:37am On Jun 14, 2023 |
TenQ:1. Again, you mentioned Hell and Hell applies as far as God's Law, not your idea of natural law. God does not bend His Law, no matter who it is. He does not make exceptions as far as His Law is concerned. 2. God does not answer the prayers of the unrighteous; As He made clear, their prayers are an abomination to Him. So, no, miracles don't happen sometimes because you Christians pray. Rather, God pours out his mercy on all of mankind which is why even those who do not pray to Him experience the same kind of miracles and coincidences that those of the religion of Christianity also experience. Yes, you don't even have to pray to receive God's mercy, and you don't get it more because you wear the Christian badge around with you. 3. Again, God pours out His mercy on all mankind every single day. Even the rain which fails on all is God's mercy/favor on mankind. The sun rising and the setting is of the same. The Moon, the stars.... all God's mercy aka miracles if you want to go that far. 4. What in the world has Paul's statement in 1 Corinthians 4 to do with this here conversation by the way? 1 You should think of us as servants of Christ, the ones God has trusted to do the work of making known his secret truths. |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by Kobojunkie: 4:39am On Jun 14, 2023 |
TenQ:That makes no sense. God has power to does not mean God m makes exceptions because God said ■ He does not change His mind — He does not make exceptions. ■ He is a faithful God meaning — He does not break the agreements/Covenants He has made with men ■ His Word is Everlasting — The contract/agreement/covenant He makes never changes and remains ironclad for eternity. Stop trying so hard to make a liar of God for Pete's sake. |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ: 4:46am On Jun 14, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:Tell me that Elijah wasn't an exception!? Read to understand the Bible Jeremiah 18, Exodus 32, 1 Samuel15, and Numbers 23 |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by Kobojunkie: 4:50am On Jun 14, 2023 |
TenQ:1. How was Elijah an exception? Exception to which of God's laws? 2. What exactly am I looking for as I read through those chapters?, |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ: 4:51am On Jun 14, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:When did Elijah die and become dust? |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by Kobojunkie: 4:58am On Jun 14, 2023 |
TenQ:You aren't paying attention at all, are you? God's judgment in Genesis 3 vs 19 - 24 was declared by God over those who reject Him beginning with Adam. Those who fail to obtain eternal life(and afterlife) are returned to dust from which they were made. Elijah was a righteous man of God so why would he have had need to share the same fate with the unrighteous? |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ: 5:04am On Jun 14, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:My question was simple: When did Elijah die and become dust? |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by Kobojunkie: 5:10am On Jun 14, 2023 |
TenQ:Abel, Noah, Enoch( no record of him dying at all), Seth, Abraham, Isaac, Moses, etc. , examples of men who also didn't turn to dust --- they were all righteous men. So why would Elijah have had to turn to dust? |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ: 5:51am On Jun 14, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:Thanks for reminding me of Enoch! Another exception!? You cannot put God in your cage bro! |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by Kobojunkie: 5:55am On Jun 14, 2023 |
TenQ:Exception to what exactly? You are here asserting that God is not faithful and hence should not be trusted to abide by His own agreement to men. And you think I am the one putting Him in a cage? |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ: 7:16am On Jun 14, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:God made the rule of death for mankind : true or false? Enoch was an exception to the rule of death for mankind : true or false? |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by MightySparrow: 9:17am On Jun 14, 2023 |
TenQ: If you have spare time, answer kobojunkie. She is really a junkie. |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ: 9:30am On Jun 14, 2023 |
MightySparrow:I've always thought Kobojunkie is a man. Is she truly a woman!? If she is, she must be truly caustic and difficult to live with. |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by MightySparrow: 9:33am On Jun 14, 2023 |
TenQ: Check her profile, she even has her picture there like Jezebel's 1 Like |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ: 9:44am On Jun 14, 2023 |
MightySparrow:Okay. I'll do so! |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by budaatum: 9:53am On Jun 14, 2023 |
TenQ: A near death experience where the "Bottom line based on his Own Report is He was sick and died". Surely, it could not have been near if he died, or could it? Then he goes to hell, as religiously expected, since that's where he's been informed atheists go, and he expects to be believed of course. lol. Guess he might not have heard of Swedenborg who went to heaven and also to hell without nearing death not to talk of dying. |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by budaatum: 9:57am On Jun 14, 2023 |
Wawelexy: So too did the person in the YouTube "thought he had" but you don't doubt his encounter now, do you? Is that because you'd rather believe what you see in a YouTube than what a human you can question directly tells you perhaps? |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ: 9:59am On Jun 14, 2023 |
budaatum:If you had checked carefully, I was careful to let him speak his Own testimony. All I ask is that you ask yourself the question : Could this have being an eleborate fabrication? He saw himself in a bad loveless place! For want of language, the nearest word would be hell. The conclusion : He stopped being an Atheist! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by budaatum: 10:01am On Jun 14, 2023 |
TenQ: Please, TenQ, this thread is doctrine. Everyone who lives knows that though from inside our mothers do we come forth, dust is what we return to when we die despite all the claims we wish to make about near death which is not death! |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by budaatum: 10:06am On Jun 14, 2023 |
TenQ: It also seems to be the temporary suspension of the use of the brain if you asked me. But perhaps that's why "Christians", some at least, never hunger, because manna miraculously falls into their mouths from heaven, and despite God being written to have supposedly stated otherwise, that you would sweat (work) before you eat!
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Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by budaatum: 10:07am On Jun 14, 2023 |
TenQ: Ah. And there was me thinking you believed it. My apology is tendered |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by Wawelexy(m): 10:10am On Jun 14, 2023 |
budaatum: I have been there myself, so I know what he's talking about.... Someone who has never been to China can never describe how it looks to you that have been there severally.... From his description, you can always tell if truly he's been there or maybe someone told him or better still he saw it in a book or video... Hope you get my point? |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by budaatum: 10:12am On Jun 14, 2023 |
TenQ: It could be an elaborate conscious elaborate fabrication, like Swedenborg's, or an unconscious elaborate fabrication brought on by his mind while he was near death. Fact is, it is not a experience of a real thing that actually happened. 1 Like |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by budaatum: 10:20am On Jun 14, 2023 |
Wawelexy: Let me post my passport below so you can check for yourself if it has China entry visa stamped on it or not, then perhaps we can look to see the point to be gotten. budaatum: |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by Wawelexy(m): 10:29am On Jun 14, 2023 |
budaatum:Well, your near death experience does not in any relate to having an encounter with the most high, near death experiences are natural but rare, while having an encounter with God is sacred and for only the chosen one, that's the difference you failed to see.... |
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