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Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ: 4:45am On Jun 16, 2023 |
KnownUnknown:Repeating assertions don't suddenly make them real. Just read a few reports of OBEs happening within NDE then you can promote any hypothesis to explain them away |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ: 4:48am On Jun 16, 2023 |
KnownUnknown:I guess you don't know that sometime OBEs accompany NDEs. |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ: 4:49am On Jun 16, 2023 |
LordReed:OBEs are called OBEs and not dreams for a reason dude! |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by LordReed(m): 5:34am On Jun 16, 2023 |
TenQ: Which you have yet to tell me. |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by LordReed(m): 5:39am On Jun 16, 2023 |
TenQ: Unless it is of things he wouldn't otherwise be able to see then it won't mean anything. Take your Howard Storm for instance, he said he saw his wife and the other patient in the room, there's nothing special about that description since they both were in the room with him. If he had described events or people outside the room that he could not have otherwise known then that would be something. |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ: 6:27am On Jun 16, 2023 |
LordReed:Howards NDE is not even one of the profound ones with respect to OBEs. When the subject who is expected to be unconscious is reporting what each of the medical personnel was doing when they died, that is a real deal and there are examples to that effect This is why it is called Out of Body Body Experiences |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ: 6:28am On Jun 16, 2023 |
LordReed: OUT ... Of.. BODY ! |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by LordReed(m): 7:01am On Jun 16, 2023 |
TenQ: Which you are yet to show is objectively true. So you are yet to show what is special or objectively true about this experience. BTW here is some guy who saw Buddha, Jesus and Mohammed, how seriously should I take him since he also had an OBE. I Died; Saw Jesus, Buddha, Muhammad & Krishna During My NDE. What They Showed Me Changed Me Forever https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pICciopQs7w 1 Like |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by LordReed(m): 7:03am On Jun 16, 2023 |
TenQ: Then why not to give us those ones to explore. |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ: 8:13am On Jun 16, 2023 |
LordReed:All these are NDEs E and not OBE! In OUT of BODY experiences, a person witnesses real physical experiences that he is not supposed to be privy to. NDE to a large extent may be I sinuated to be an Elaborate Dream but not OBE especially if it happens within an NDE |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ: 8:15am On Jun 16, 2023 |
LordReed:I don't have to as you have probably seen a few yourself |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by LordReed(m): 8:21am On Jun 16, 2023 |
TenQ: LoLz. No I haven't. |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by LordReed(m): 8:23am On Jun 16, 2023 |
TenQ: LoLz. You didn't even watch the video. The guy says he had an OBE in it along with the NDE, watch it don't just read the tag line. Besides you didn't answer the question, should I take this particular experience seriously or no? |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by budaatum: 8:30am On Jun 16, 2023 |
TenQ: TenQ: https://www.nairaland.com/7726647/near-death-experience-atheist-professor/3#123800634 |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ: 8:37am On Jun 16, 2023 |
LordReed:Good for you. It means it's time to search |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by LordReed(m): 8:53am On Jun 16, 2023 |
TenQ: No thanks, I don't find them interesting. |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ: 9:10am On Jun 16, 2023 |
BTW: There were no OBE in the testimonies The testimonies were designed to teach new age doctrines and not a report. Not withstanding! LordReed:The Bible says, "Test ALL Spirits whether they be of God"! To this end, no NDE report should be accepted as doctrine. Each one taken at their face falue. Haven said this, Should you take this NDE serious? I will say Yes if and only if the testimonies are true. Should you make the testimonies a doctrine? Certainly Not! Why shouldn't you make it a doctrine? Because the individual may be under the influence of spirits not of God. Why should you take the testimony (if it is true) serious? It shows that life exist beyond the 3D space and biological brain. I have reasons to discard these testimonies as weak however, this isn't the bone of contention! |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ: 9:12am On Jun 16, 2023 |
LordReed:This is also a result of you finding the truth |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ: 9:15am On Jun 16, 2023 |
budaatum:1. You didn't ask any question as I could see 2. You have mixed up NDE and OBE. In NDE, you report the unseen (like in a dream) In OBE, you report the physical verifiable environment of the subject |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by budaatum: 9:52am On Jun 16, 2023 |
TenQ: I had my own subjective mixed up NDE and OBE experience and I now describe the unseen entire physical verifiable environment of the bar beach that I drank all up and the valium that jumped down my throat, so of course I was not asking any questions since it is my own subjective experience I report. |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by KnownUnknown: 10:03am On Jun 16, 2023 |
TenQ: Now turn that into a mantra for yourself to remind you not to believe bullshit whether it’s NDE, OBE, DE, VDE, or any other xxE you read about. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by KnownUnknown: 10:05am On Jun 16, 2023 |
TenQ: They are just dreaming. |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by LordReed(m): 10:14am On Jun 16, 2023 |
TenQ: The truth of what? |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by KnownUnknown: 10:38am On Jun 16, 2023 |
LordReed: F—- Buddha, Jesus, Mohammed, and Krishna. You saw Mickey Mouse playing kickball with one of those blue Indian monkey gods. 1 Like |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ: 10:59am On Jun 16, 2023 |
budaatum:I see! |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ: 11:00am On Jun 16, 2023 |
KnownUnknown:If NDEs are dreams, are OBE also dreams? |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by LordReed(m): 11:01am On Jun 16, 2023 |
KnownUnknown: LMAO! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ: 11:04am On Jun 16, 2023 |
KnownUnknown:If they are speaking the Truth What if they are speaking lies? |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by jaephoenix(m): 11:19am On Jun 16, 2023 |
TenQ:So this verse was a lie then Hebrews 9:27 King James Version 27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ: 11:21am On Jun 16, 2023 |
jaephoenix:Was the Resurrection of Lazarus or the Little girl a Lie? |
Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by LordReed(m): 11:23am On Jun 16, 2023 |
TenQ: LMAO! i should only take seriously the OBEs and NDEs that confirm your specific beliefs. Right. You didn't watch the video. See the screenshot. 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Near Death Experience Of An Atheist Professor, Howard Storm by TenQ: 11:28am On Jun 16, 2023 |
LordReed:Why should you take the testimony (if it is true) serious? It shows that life exist beyond the 3D space and biological brain. QED! Even if the experiences is from spirits not of God! Life exists beyond fless and blood! |
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