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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 8:11pm On Sep 30, 2012 |
coogar: A striker who has 3 goals in 6 games in a league topping club where he is an undisputed starter is a FAILURE and if we look at his antecedents in the same club. We can see that its nothing new, its just an extension of his prior seasons form |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coogar: 8:20pm On Sep 30, 2012 |
dayokanu: 3 goals in 6 games isn't failure - if he plays in all the 38 games in a season, he would score 19 league goals(pure goals). if he can add 6 in other competitions then he would have scored 25 goals this season! so a 25-goal per season striker is a flop? dayo, lets be honest - you are a doofus! |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 8:22pm On Sep 30, 2012 |
coogar: If Torres continue in his 3 goals in 6 games form and other strikers do the same that would mean he would still end up outside the top 10 in the league which is a failure for the top and undisputed striker of the league leaders Coogar truth be told you are a oaf |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by mikuz(m): 11:41pm On Sep 30, 2012 |
coogar: dayo, lets be honest - you are a doofus! dayokanu: |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by phiszo(m): 7:21am On Oct 01, 2012 |
3 goals in 6 games is fairly ok. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 8:09am On Oct 01, 2012 |
lalaboi: I dont remember Nateevs line up but i'm sure it didnt have no Oscar in it. or having Mikel and Ramires TOgether. . . Ramires and Oscar in the middle made us a little bit stronger cos these 2 hustle and make tackles to win back the ball. . . Sorry mate, it had Oscar in it. . . Twice sef. This is my post from months ago. When I talked about line-up, I was talking about the midfield/attacking line-up, hence the reference to the latter part of my post that read, "they asked me who will defend". In one of my permutations, I did put Ramires in the double pivot. Yes, together with Mikel. Talk about forward thinking. . I was going to put Ramires in DM in the same line up that had Oscar, Hazard, Mata and then exclude Lamapard but I had to satisfy the gods of this thread. . . . However, in-spite of my generosity, guess what the yobs came back with? It's there for you to read. nateevs: |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by FBS: 9:06am On Oct 01, 2012 |
@nateevs, FT gave the ball away more than any other player on the pitch and he single handedly messed up lots of promising attacks. That was woeful. That said, he scored a good goal and ran like a crazy man with a minute left, closing down opponents. I personally cannot fault that so, well done to him. Ain't complaining. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 10:55am On Oct 01, 2012 |
FBS: @nateevs, FT gave the ball away more than any other player on the pitch and he single handedly messed up lots of promsing attacks. That was woeful. Oh I didn't deny that Torres messed up a lot of attacking moves. You called it right. I just added more things I wanted to say and I didn't want to post twice. That said, I will not complain if Torres continues to score yet messes up build up play. When I consistently brought the same issues up about Drogba breaking up attacking play and conceding possession to the opposition, many directed abuse at me claiming that if he scores, it doesn't matter. Many of those people include Dayo and you FBS. . . Now Dayo highlights a minute-by-minute account of what Torres does and is in a haste of posting when Torres concedes possession. Even last season, Dayo never posts, then waits for a goal from Lamps or Drogba and says the old guards to the rescue again continually turning a blind eye to performance. My point is, maybe it's a good thing to remain consistent and never call for the head of Torres when he loses the ball. . . Caveat - As long as he score. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 10:55am On Oct 01, 2012 |
Ibime: Hehehe. Nice win boys. Torres actually won quite few headers today even against Vermaelen although still giving the ball away. U Seem to be laffing now and not saying something IB -- The last time we had an argument it was On whether Ramires would fare well playing in the Pivot with Mikel, and if am to recall vividly u were of the Opinion that Ramy aint a Good CM not in a Lifetime, but Lately it seem all like RDM is Goin' with my View that Ramy cant penetrate through the wings nicely anymore thereby deploying him to the Pivot which has been working perfectly Fine. The selection of Ramires at the Pivot, starting for the Second time in 8 days, suggests that di Matteo is looking for pace, energy and a lot of off-the-ball movement from his midfield, and i guess u've seen more of that in the Stoke and Arsenal games. Our Wing Play is now more like a Mobile Stuff -- A Delight to watch. Eden Hazard, Oscar and Juan Mata lined up in the attacking band behind Fernando Torres: Hazard on the left, Oscar down the middle and Mata on the right. With the trio rotating across the attacking third like three cups under the spell of a magician determined to hide the location that elusive ball. Whatcha ya Gon Say to that? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:39pm On Oct 01, 2012 |
El Guapo: Sure, it works to cover a slow central midfield, but do you see Ramires as your DM going forward? I certainly dont. If I was RDM, I would be requesting a new DM on January 1st. I am against Ramires in ma midfield fullstop, but anything to "protect Mikel" is fine by me for now, till we reach January. nateevs: Your main two formations there show Mikel/Lamps and Mikel/Oscar. One had Mikel/Oscar plus Marin, Mata and Hazard which is the so-called "fantasy football".. You had Mikel/Lamps/Ramires "if we need to get down and dirty", meaning Barcelona not Stoke and Arsenal. Your "most defensive formation" is our template formation, and you didnt even envisage Ramires as the deepest midfielder, so leave matter. This is nowhere near "the same exact formation" you envisaged as Chelseas template formation. You told us Mikels pace was not a problem, but it is, hence Ramires. No matter how this thing is twisted, Ramires drafting in was as a result of lack of pace in the DM position, not due to "Lamps bombing forward" which I've debunked and which positional charts show us is wrong. You have lost an argument, but managed to twist yourself into a winning position. I would make no comment because Mikel is not doing anything Lampard doesnt do better as the more advanced of the two, except shielding players with his nyash (which he does very well). Lamps missed training most of last week with a foot injury so lets watch developments. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 12:42pm On Oct 01, 2012 |
El Guapo: Good observation El Guapo. You won't get a response from Ibime though. According to him, it's one of RDM's best tactical decisions of last season. Undoing AVB's bullsh1t of playing Ramires in the middle and playing him on the wings where, if he loses the ball, it doesn't affect the team. Are we now saying RDM's undoing his own best decision or Ibime didn't know know what he was saying and will be forced to change his mind. . . again? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by FBS: 12:46pm On Oct 01, 2012 |
nateevs:Read carefully: I said that since he scored, I won't complain but hey, DD remains one of the GREATEST strikers EVER to play for Chelsea so, please be kind enough to send Mr Torress a quick SMS or MMS if you will, to step it up -Scoring goals I mean. PS: DD also won the ball back in dangerous places and as we all know defended quite well. So, no basis for comparisons here. And since you couldn't condone Drogba "giving" the ball away and "breaking" down attacks why do you accept it now from FT? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by debosky(m): 12:49pm On Oct 01, 2012 |
Ibime: Interesting - did this 'lack of pace in the DM position' start today or has it gone on for a while? Nateevs did ask a very good question - is RDM negating one of his 'achievements' in drafting Ramires to the wing by placing him in the 'double pivot'? What happened to Ramires protecting Ivanovic by being an auxiliary RB? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 12:56pm On Oct 01, 2012 |
FBS:I'd like to read nateev's response to this. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 1:18pm On Oct 01, 2012 |
Ibime: Please man. Now you are calling the drafting of Ramires into DM a cover for the slow Mikel rather than the expunging of the lethargic Lampard. If Mikel is that crap, why not field Lampard alongside Ramires and drop Mikel. Everyone sees this except you. Go siddon. You slowly trying to make this stick. Let's debunk your crap. Against Arsenal and Stoke, we never pressured them on a high line and as such never had cause to retrieve the ball dropped beyond our back four. Hence there was no need for pace running backwards. For that reason, you cannot suggest that the inclusion of Ramires was cover the slow Mikel. No! Stop the bollocks. It worked because Ramires had positional discipline. He attacked only when he could and sat back for most of the game breaking up play. That way the defensive combination of 6 player in the double pivot and defence line stayed strong. That's why you play a 4-2-3-1 and this is exactly what I have been trying to point out. The same happened when Meireles played against Newcastle - the only other time the DM pivot worked. Average player, didn't have the pace of Ramires, susceptible to conceding possession far too many times, but it worked because he stayed discipline in the pivot. Abi Meireles was covering for the slow Mikel? Stop mixing up issues. RDM realised that to go into those two games with a Lamps - Mikel partnership is suicide. Something I have always pointed. Even Diva pointed it out many times. You will never accept that Lampard was dropped. It's always someone else's fault. Imagine you trying to tell us that Ramires was drafted in because Mikel is slow, not that Ramires took Lamps place. As if Mikel had to much to drink on Friday, fell off the kerb and became slow overnight. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Regarding the getting the formation right, hommie you are clutching at straws. I never said I got all the players right. The particular part of contention was the inclusion of Hazard Oscar Mata in midfield. Ritchie came asking who will defend and how it will never work against Arsenal. It was not important that I got the DMs right as the DMs are already defensive players. I didn't lose any argument. I would be congratulating anyone who saw before hand that midfield could work. Now you are running your mouth, using my reason behind each lineup as a defensive standpoint rather than commending the thought process of the combination. You called the entire thing I did fantasy football. You didn't commend any part of it. Now you are picking and choosing what you called fantasy. . . I know, you changed your mind. Lalaboi questioned ever seeing my suggestion with an Oscar lineup, it was there. He also questioned whether I ever put Ramires together with Mikel, it was there. It's like you having a go at me for not seeing all the possibilities. I can't. The bottom line is,I nailed the attacking formation and RDM substituted my defensive part of the formation - something I have consistently advocated for since I saw the first Lamps/Mikel partnership and you think I lost an argument? Dude go and lie down. As for this, I would make no comment because Mikel is not doing anything Lampard doesnt do better as the more advanced of the two, except shielding players with his nyash (which he does very well). Dude, Mikel did not take Lamps position. Ramires did. He (Mikel), doesn't have to do what Lamps does. He just needs to be Mikel and defend. Na only you dey see this rubbish. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 1:35pm On Oct 01, 2012 |
FBS: Once again sir. I was not having a go at you. Had plenty things to say and I put it all in one post. I respect your opinion and yes, I need not accept that from Torres if I didn't from Drogba. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 2:09pm On Oct 01, 2012 |
nateevs: Lampard will be fielded alongside Ramires soonest, then what will you say? Abi you forgot that Frank missed training most of the week with a foot injury? Another nonsense crap of yours - "Lethargic Lampard". "Even at 34, Frank Lampard continues to be a force in the Chelsea midfield. He ran further than all of Chelsea teammates last weekend, clocking up 6.31 miles. His nearest rival for distance covered on the day, Eden Hazard, is 13 years his junior." http://www.byfarthegreatestteam.com/posts/stats-chelseas-lampard-runs-the-most-and-stokes-crouch-hits-the-target/ Nateevs, you are a disgrace. How can Lampard be "lethargic" when he covered the most ground? Mikel is the SLOTH of the midfield, but as usual, its Lampard. nateevs: Stop chatting nonsense. Against Arsenal and Stoke, Ramires was the last man and tracked his runners, something Mikel is incapable of doing. nateevs: Another lie from the pit of hell. You have not always pointed out anything. According to you, Mikel-Lamps partnership was stable at the start of the season and your preferred formation out of the three. nateevs: And according to thus, who is in Mikel's position? Like I said,, Ramires is playing Mikel's position and Mikel is playing Lampard's position. The DM is inept in open space, and thats why he has someone is tracking the runs for him. As for your nonsense chat about "we were not open to counterattack", how come Ivanovic and Cole average position is in the opposition half? There is no problem with Lampard "bombing forward" as you can see. Last season, both Lamps and Mikel were beasts in the DM position as proven in the UCL. The difference this season is that the team plays further up the pitch so someone quick is needed. nateevs: Another eediotic comment. . . . please ask everyone around if you didnt know how RDM moving Ramires to the wing was KEY in all our Champions League victories. That he is back in the centre is an obvious ploy to inject pace in the DM position. He was not needed in the centre last season cos Chelsea played deep and Mikel and Lampard's lack of pace was not a problem as they were playing deep and defended admirably as proven in the UCL. debosky: Only a mugun would make this comparison. Are tactics static? He is not negating his achievement. He won the Champions League doing what he did and you are here chatting bollocks after the fact as if it has not already been proven by the ol' big ears. debosky: I spoke about Ramires covering Davi Alves, and you are here spewing nonsense to muddy the waters. Nateevs, this is the 4th season I would be arguing with you about Lampard's place in the team. How about you give us some credit for the previous 4 years and stop arguing nonsense just cos we strung a couple results together. Class always tell, but a madman will always make the same argument year in, year out. It was the same last year. Here's the simple acid test - If Chelsea play Ramires and Lampard together over the coming weeks, I win once again. The only advantage I see for Mikel is that he protects the ball better than Lampard when receiving from the back four - which balances out Ramires' obvious deficiencies, not because he runs better, tackles better or holds position better. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coogar: 2:37pm On Oct 01, 2012 |
ibime won't give up.........lampard is a waste pipe....take out the penalties won by hazard this season and the dude has done nothing! mikel has a better pass completion and average passes per game! it gets ridiculous when mikel has made more key passes per game than lampard! i know fat frank is a legend. he's been a great servant to chelsea but he's living off past glory now - he's in the category of giggs/scholes....."has beens" |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by debosky(m): 2:44pm On Oct 01, 2012 |
Ibime: Did Ramires only play against Dani Alves in all the CL games last season? Or did RDM forget to move Ramires after playing Barca? Who was he playing ahead of? Was it the LB or the RB? Who said the following? Knowing RDM's tactical nature and his instinct for never giving away any opportunity[b] (as evidenced by patching Ramires and Bertrand to provide defensive balance)[/b], RDM can never go into a season thinking that the current defensive midfielders will provide adequate cover for defence-deserters like Marin, Hazard, Torres and Mata. Who are the 'defensive balance' guys 'patching'? A few weeks ago you were trumpeting the 'fact' that RDM had 'never' played him in midfield is because he didn't see him as a DM. Ibime: The fat charlatan is exposed again. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coogar: 2:52pm On Oct 01, 2012 |
debosky, this is so unfair!!! y'all keep doing this to ibime - exposing his fat butt almost every week! he talks too much for his own nervous coordination thus the contradictions! he should take lessons from bluediva and omo ibo(passive posters) - all they get to say these days are "up chelsea" when chelsea win or "torres is a dud" when chelsea fail to secure 3 points! such comments don't need to be pulled apart by football analysts! |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 2:59pm On Oct 01, 2012 |
debosky: A troglodyte chatting nonsense. We were speaking about Brazil and how Ramires covers Dani Alves runs forward by filling in and you are here chatting about Barcelona. RDM has managed 35-odd games for Chelsea, and played Ramires in central midfield twice when it became obvious that Mikel and Lamps are too slow for that position, and that is supposed to mean Ramires is RDM's idea of a good central midfielder? According to RDM "I deployed Ramires because we needed pace in the deeper positions to stop Arsenal". Its as simple as that. Ramires is Chelseas only central midfielder with pace. Thats all, not all this reh reh reh that RDM has never seen a midfielder as good as Ramires. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 3:53pm On Oct 01, 2012 |
"Even at 34, Frank Lampard continues to be a force in the Chelsea midfield. He ran further than all of Chelsea teammates last weekend, clocking up 6.31 miles. His nearest rival for distance covered on the day, Eden Hazard, is 13 years his junior." Who cares? If Lamps covers more ground than Iniesta, it means he (Lamps) is better right? I don't believe in passive stats. A man chasing all players around without making a single tackle and then leaving his defensive duties to get on the end of a cross in the oppo's box in hope of scoring will cover more ground than Hazard who actually won all the penalties. Does that then mean the ground he covered has produced anything meaningful? Ground covered to no effect is phuck-all dude. We are not kids here. Lampard probably covers more ground than Messi. So? JT cannot cover half the ground Ashley Cole covers. Does that covers means Ashley is a better defender. Typical nut-case. Are you listening to yourself? Bone that thing, you can cover all the ground the want and still be garbage. Another lie from the pit of hell. I have not always pointed out anything yet I am the same guy who always wants Lamps dropped. Hehehe. You've got to love Ibime's contradiction. Papa Ajasco cannot keep up with your comedy. And according to thus, who is in Mikel's position? How do the bloody damn pics reveal that Ramires takes Mikel positions and Mikel subsequently, Lampard's? Am I missing something? The DM is inept in open space, and thats why he has someone is tracking the runs for him. Where did I say "we were not open to counter-attack"? Your knack for inventing the unsaid is becoming terminal. You better visit a shrink. Also it's a shame that you are using average positions in analysing how we set-up forgetting that in real-time, Ashley and Ivanovic never attack at the same time. It's always one or the other and one after the other. Only gullible football fans will listen to you. There is no problem with Lampard "bombing forward" as you can see. Last season, both Lamps and Mikel were beasts in the DM position as proven in the UCL. The difference this season is that the team plays further up the pitch so someone quick is needed. I am sorry Dude. You may be blind but I will show you there is a problem with Lamps bombing forward. The problem is him. Why? Because 9 times out of 10, he won't get that goal but he does not have the pace to cover up the ground he's left exposed behind. Especially as one of full-backs may have been involved in the attacking move, it leaves only one full back, two CBs and the slow Mikel to cope with a counter-attack. Also consider that JT is perhaps even slower than Mikel, you begin the get the consequences of Lamps bombing forward. . It's a 4-2-3-1 for a reason. If we need Lamps to bomb forward we'll play a 4-3-3. We are not doing so. Dude should sit back and defend. How can you make such an eediotic comment by the way? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 4:06pm On Oct 01, 2012 |
nateevs: Look again. . . Have you finished looking. . . or are you the type that get confused between left and right when looking in a mirror? Cech's position might help you decide what direction you are facing!!! Ramires is the deepest Chelsea midfielder whilst Mikel is occupying where Lampard usually occupies. nateevs: Who said this: "Against Arsenal and Stoke, we never pressured them on a high line and as such never had cause to retrieve the ball dropped beyond our back four. Hence there was no need for pace running backwards. For that reason, you cannot suggest that the inclusion of Ramires was cover the slow Mikel." But how do we know the problem is PACE? Because in all this, you have never suggested Oriol Romeu to replace Lampard, if the problem was just a player keeping his position. You suggested David Luiz, Ramires and even Meireles. . . all quick players, although Romeu is your favourite. . . the problem has always been lack of pace. Need I remind you: nateevs: Yeah. . . . Why would Nateevs recommend Luiz and even players he hates like Ramires and Meireles ahead of Romeu if pace is not the problem? Because Romeu has no pace. . . and Mikel needs to be covered!!! nateevs: This is all in your imagination. If Lampard played with a fast player behind him, you will never see any of this. The positional charts show Mikel occupies the EXACT SAME position as Lamps when he plays with Ramires. Against Stoke and Arsenal, I have seen Mikel in the box, taking shots, showing on the right-wing and everything. He is by far worse at getting back than Lampard. When you play smaller teams, one of the two will have to go forward. Lamps went forward against Reading etc but never against Juventus. This was analysed on one of the blogs. Against Atletico, Lamps didnt go forward and still the DM was porous. Against Juve, Lamps barely crossed the halfway line and according to Gary Neville "Marchisio ran behind Mikel at least ten times". Mikel lacks pace to cover. Its that simple. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 4:07pm On Oct 01, 2012 |
OMO IBO: You go wait taya. Born pikin for waiting sef |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 4:54pm On Oct 01, 2012 |
@Ibime. You are the one making the mistake dude and it all comes from your imagination that one of the DMs needs to go forward. There is no tactical imperative for one of the DMs to go forward and as such there isn't any need for defensive cover. This is where you miss the point. Mikel "may" surge forward at times, but never reaching inside the 18 like Lampard would. The difference between Mikel not reaching the opposition 18 and Lamps reaching it is a gulf. This is why you are making a mistake. There should be no such thing as a cover in a 4-2-3-1 if the two sitting guys sit. The games against Newcastle, Arsenal and Stoke have shown that. We stayed compact in defence and still did not suffer in attack. Mikel is not occupying Lamps position. It's just a tactical switch as applied in continental style where you have one destroyer and a deep-lying play-maker in a double pivot. Ramires hasn't got the passing range. Mikel has it and it only makes sense that Mikel sat just slightly ahead of Ramires. With a passing range, you don't need to go forward. This is where you miss the point. Defensively though, they stayed disciplined and did not open up. In games Lamps has played in, it's like open waters and you blame this on Mikel? Please dude. The reason I did not suggest Romeu and Mikel is because of the speed of recycling possession, not the speed of defensive cover. If both players don't stray forward, there will be no need for pace. --------------------------------------- Regarding Ramires. I give you this. I know he is 23 but I do not know if he can be better Guess what? He became better. End of. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by debosky(m): 5:12pm On Oct 01, 2012 |
Ibime: I thunk RDM had NEVER used Ramires as a CM? Were those not your words? Chatting bollocks all day long as usual. I repeat, who is Ramires providing 'defensive balance' or 'patching' for on the right wing?
Simple as contradicting your earlier bollocks that RDM doesn't see him as a central midfielder. If it were simply a matter of pace, why not play Hazard at CM?
Who said RDM has never seen a midfielder as good as Ramires? Or are you having an argument with yourself again? A few weeks ago you claimed RDM didn't even see Ramires as a CM (apparently only Emenalo did according to the phat phool), now he is the only CM with pace. Confuzzled twit. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 6:00pm On Oct 01, 2012 |
debosky: Quit trolling you obnoxious git. (1.) Had rdm ever used Ramirez in central midfield? If so tell us which game. (2.) someone asked why rdm never used Ramirez in central midfield and I said obviously he doesn't see him as a central midfielder that's why he's never used him there in 8 months. None of these facts is contradictory or disputable yet you keep trolling like someone who is in dire need of congi. Is rdms reluctance to play Ramirez in midfield a big secret? Nateevs has told you why in his quote above. Did anyone say rdm will never play Ramirez in cm? So stop trolling like a desperate doofus seeking attention. Please if congi dey hook you, go have a one night stand with your right hand. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by 190: 2:50am On Oct 02, 2012 |
Jesus i cant read all that now make una try cut am small small anyway back 2 oscar, i have 2 be sincere, im not impressed with the dude anymore he was less than average against arsenal didnt make any tackles, isnt fast, ive not seen any of his quality passes maybe he has an eye on goal but i need someone who can make tackles clean ones and make those passes, 2ndly seeems mata's leg cant carry the ball, he seems 2 float around and tries so hard to look like hes doing something and since when did chelsea start doing 1-2 passes esp btwn torres and mata that shit is old, we need chelsea players to start taking shots!! |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by debosky(m): 9:12am On Oct 02, 2012 |
Ibime: Against Arsenal - or did time stop before the Arsenal game?
The latter conclusion is a stoopid one. That he hadn't used him there in 8 months doesn't mean he doesn't see Ramires as a central midfielder! It may simply be, as a result of the weaknesses in the side in general, or it was more advantageous to use him elsewhere.
Your last statement is not only disputable but utter bollocks as usual, yet you keep twisting and turning to try to accommodate it in your asinine theories. I ask again - if he didn't see him as a CM why play him there at the Emirates? Why not play other 'fast' players there if it's just a matter of pace? Apati mumu oshi. (Fat mumu rubbish if you don't comprende )
The fact is you are engaging in pure speculation and poor speculation at that. It's like saying that RDM doesn't see Bertrand as a LB because he keeps playing him on the wing for 'defensive patching'! Your dislike of Ramires is clear for all to see - and just like you accuse nateevs, you keep inventing stoopid rationales for him not playing. When Ramires plays 20 games at CM for Chelski this season, we'll see whether your daft claim of RDM not seeing him as a CM will still be repeated. Arindin.
I have sufficient females at my beck and call - your odious ranting on the other hand shows that Mrs Ibime has had you sleeping on the couch for your repeated malfeasance. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:49am On Oct 02, 2012 |
debosky: You mean stupid rationales like these: http://www.carefreechronicles.com/2012/08/ramires-talks-strengths-and-weaknesses.html http://www.weaintgotnohistory.com/2012/8/24/3265546/ramires-best-position-chelsea http://www.carefreechronicles.com/2012/09/some-thoughts-and-analysis-on-chelsea-1.html This is a non-story by congi-craving cretinous cockmuncher Meanwhile, I'm sorry to do this Nateevs. Dont like bringing up yesterday's debate. . . . but I couldnt help meself laughing. . . I mean, how do you go from: nateevs: to few months back: nateevs: to this: nateevs: Thats like accusing someone who hasnt changed his mind, of changing his mind. . . whilst simultaneously changing your mind!!! |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by debosky(m): 11:18am On Oct 02, 2012 |
Ibime: Did you write those rationales? Honestly your idiocy is peaking at previously unrecorded levels - why are you sending me other people's links or are you now admitting that you are incapable of original thought and just plagiarised those articles? PS - even those articles posted up there ended with caveats such as 'lets wait and see' regarding Ramires and this phat phool of astronomical proportions wants to use those posts as evidence supporting his moronic commentary? Where did you ever say let's wait and see concerning Ramires? Didn't you conclude that he isn't even seen as a CM? As for the sexual references - I'll just take those comments as your way of self-identifying your homosexual leanings. Only when the bottom of the (shallow) barrel of intellect has been reached do sexual references become the order of the day - no different from DK really. In other words you are finished. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 11:26am On Oct 02, 2012 |
coogar: debosky, he should take lessons from bluediva and omo ibo(passive posters) - all they get to say these days are "up chelsea" when chelsea win or "torres is a dud" when chelsea fail to secure 3 points! such comments don't need to be pulled apart by football analysts! You nor well o. . .LOL All we hear these days is Torres and Lamps, the arguments for and against never ends. coogar: i know fat frank is a legend. he's been a great servant to chelsea but he's living off past glory now - he's in the category of giggs/scholes....."has beens" I might as well have written this. If Lamps wasn't an English man he would have been out some seasons ago. |
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