coogar:

you are a disgrace to all football pundits on this section and it's baffling that you can plumb new depths of idiocy in your witchhunting business! it's far idiotic to compare torres to the strikers in the other clubs! chelsea are notoriously useless when it comes to creating chances for their strikers! we have highlighted this in the past with the low number of clear cut chances chelsea make in comparison to the other clubs in the top six!

the stat below shows the ratio of goals scored by strikers to the total goals and surprise surprise - chelsea came last! they had didier drogba and torres in the team this time last season! can you see the numbers? how stüpid do you look now?

Are these the impure goals scored by other strikers this season?

I have given you a list of strikers who have scored more than Torres, Now show us the impure goals they scored

dayokanu:

Are these the impure goals scored by other strikers this season?

I have given you a list of strikers who have scored more than Torres, Now show us the impure goals they scored

who's talking about impure goals? that ship has sailed!

that's the stat of the total league goals scored by each club and the ones scored by the strikers in each club! chelsea recorded the lowest! you know there's a problem when teams like blackburn, stoke, west ham, etc utilise their strikers better than chelsea! so what do you have to say or you cannot read statistics? you are dyslexic? of the 93 league goals scored by man city, 54 of them were scored by their strikers - do you get it now or you need a four figure table to understand?

coogar:

Can hardly say that I am shocked considering Drogba is the only 20 League goal a season chelsea striker in the Roman era.

He and Lampard are the only ones to have done this and we all know Lamps takes an insane amount of PKs.

So now there are pure and impure goals?
Ends shall never wonder.

chic2pimp:

Can hardly say that I am shocked considering Drogba is the only 20 League goal a season chelsea striker in the Roman era.

He and Lampard are the only ones to have done this and we all know Lamps takes an insane amount of PKs.

which means if chelsea sign david villa, zlatan, mario gomez or even messi - they would not fare better than torres cos the team is notoriously useless in creating for their strikers!!


anyone asking fernando torres to break that norm now must be a cretin!! chelsea have always had problems with playing to the strengths of their strikers! the statistics is shocking! 16.92% when united and city are all on 50+%? the next time anyone criticises torres on this thread, i would piss in his nostrils!

coogar:

who's talking about impure goals? that ship has sailed!

that's the stat of the total league goals scored by each club and the ones scored by the strikers in each club! chelsea recorded the lowest! you know there's a problem when teams like blackburn, stoke, west ham, etc utilise their strikers better than chelsea! so what do you have to say or you cannot read statistics? you are dyslexic? of the 93 league goals scored by man city, 54 of them were scored by their strikers - do you get it now or you need a four figure table to understand?

coogar:

you are talking rubbish - no other chelsea player has scored more than torres! if his problem is missing chances then someone else should be doing the scoring @ chelsea! the best way to judge torres is to compare "pure goals"(goals from open play) between him and the strikers in the other clubs! so mr dayokanu(the head witchhunter) please get to work !

Are you suffering from Amnesia? You brought the concept of pure and impure goals I have given you list of strikers who have scored more goals than Torres, Now kindly sieve them for the impure goals.

This same Chelsea broke the EPL record scoring over 100goals a season So how can a team who broke this record be accused of not creating chances? What are they scoring from?

And for those asking How many Chelsea strikers aside Didier Drogba has scored more than 20 goals

Is that the reason Why 50m Fernandud Torres has a awesome 17 goals in 78 appearances playing as a striker?

dayokanu:
Are you suffering from Amnesia? You brought the concept of pure and impure goals I have given you list of strikers who have scored more goals than Torres, Now kindly sieve them for the impure goals.

you are very thick - that torres is even scoring at all is a testament to his brilliance especially when he is playing for a team that creates little for the strikers to feed on! this was why i said seiving pure and impure goals is irrelevant! chelsea as a team create nothing in comparison to relegating teams! look at the stats and digest yourself!

This same Chelsea broke the EPL record scoring over 100goals a season So how can a team who broke this record be accused of not creating chances? What are they scoring from?

what a pubic louse!
i was expecting you to come up with this useless point again but guess what, chelsea still came last when the stats was tabulated for the last 4 seasons. which means even when torres was not @ chelsea, the strikers starved to death!

behold:


i love making dayokanu look like a piss-stained, alcohol-sodden pleb!
pay attention to the stats - chelsea still came last in a stat that included shitty teams like wolves, blackburn and southampton! you still want to blame torres when he's only been here for 1.5 seasons out of the last 4?

And for those asking How many Chelsea strikers aside Didier Drogba has scored more than 20 goals Is that the reason Why 50m Fernandud Torres has a awesome 17 goals in 78 appearances playing as a striker?

if the team is creating enough for the strikers, torres would have scored far more than that! i have provided the stats for last season and the total stats in the last 4 seasons(including the record breaking chelsea season), chelsea still fell short!!!


dayokanu, pull your nostrils wide so i can piss into them!

A team is not creating chances but they are breaking scoring records

You are sounding more retardded by the minute.

How can a club not creating chances break scoring records? Was it the opponents that were scoring those 100 goals as OWN GOALS? Or was it Cechs goalkicks that were finding their way into opponents net?

In those last 4 seasons a Chelsea striker has topped the goal scoring charts

Yet Chelsea doesnt create chances for strikers? I laff in Nando torres

dayokanu: A team is not creating chances but they are breaking scoring records

You are sounding more retardded by the minute.

How can a club not creating chances break scoring records? Was it the opponents that were scoring those 100 goals as OWN GOALS? Or was it Cechs goalkicks that were finding their way into opponents net?

dayokanu: In those last 4 seasons a Chelsea striker has topped the goal scoring charts

Yet Chelsea doesnt create chances for strikers? I laff in Nando torres

it's a fact you are notoriously obtuse - who said anything about chelsea not creating chances - we are saying they don't create enough for their strikers. when chelsea scored 100 goals, how many of those goals were scored by the strikers in comparison to their midfielders? shouldn't that tell you the system in chelsea don't play to the strength of the strikers or are you genetically rêtarded?

the fact that the attack department @ chelsea struggles is a tradition - even before torres joined so its rather morönic to expect torres to score in the same capacity as the rooney, demba ba, van persie, tevez, etc! you know the attack @ chelsea is shyte when tottenham strikers have scored more goals in the last 4 seasons...

coogar:



it's a fact you are notoriously obtuse - who said anything about chelsea not creating chances - we are saying they don't create enough for their strikers. when chelsea scored 100 goals, how many of those goals were scored by the strikers in comparison to their midfielders? shouldn't that tell you the system in chelsea don't play to the strength of the strikers or are you genetically rêtarded? the fact that the attack department @ chelsea struggles is a tradition - even before torres joined so its rather morönic to expect torres to score in the same capacity as the rooney, demba ba, tevez, etc!

When Chelsea scored over 100 goals their striker Didier Drogba scored 29 of those goals despite being away for Nations cup for 4 weeks

The attack depratment of Chelsea which has produced 2 of the last 4 league top scorers Yet they dont play to their strenght? How come their strikers topped the chart twice in that time?

dayokanu:

When Chelsea scored over 100 goals their striker Didier Drogba scored 29 of those goals despite being away for Nations cup for 4 weeks

The attack depratment of Chelsea which has produced 2 of the last 4 league top scorers Yet they dont play to their strenght? How come their strikers topped the chart twice in that time?

topping the chart twice is a one-off and a smaller class size! the stats above have shown you the number of goals chelsea's strikers have scored in the last 4 seasons(which included the drogb's goal crazy season and anelka season) in comparison to the other strikers in the league and chelsea fell way short by their own high standards! you are looking at one off individual achievements - i am looking @ the whole chelsea strike force as a whole!

coogar: you know the attack @ chelsea is shyte when tottenham strikers have scored more goals in the last 4 seasons...

You are a liar and a saphead.. What did I say? You are a bloody oaf

Chelsea ManU Arsenal Lpool Spurs Citeh

2008/2009 68 68 68 77 45 58
2009/2010 103 86 83 61 67 73
2010/2011 69 78 72 59 55 60
2011/2012 65 89 74 47 66 93


305 321 297 244 233 284

In the last 4 seasons Chelsea has scored a total of 305 goals, Man Utd 321, Arsenal 297, Liverpool 244, Spurs 233 and City 284

these are the teams that have been in top 4 in that time frame


Coogar admit it, You are a dunderhead.

Waiting for the spin on this one

So goals scored by strikers was 31% until Torres joined, then it dropped to 16%?

The funny thing about unintelligent people like coogar is that when they try to play with numbers, they end up looking stupid. In other words, Chelsea strikers contributed 31% of chelseas goals over the last 4 year's. In the last year that number dropped to 16% when Torres joined. Intact that number musta been closer to 40% but Torres 16% reduced the weighted average to 31%.

Another stupidity of using such metric for comparison is that teams who play 4-4-2 have double the number of strikers on the pitch than 4-5-1 teams so more of their goals would be scored by strikers.

Even the clear cut chances CCC metric is a better metric than this GSBS metric that this illiterate put up there. The CCC metric shows us that Torres scores only 25% of clear cut chances whilst guys like Demba Ba score 60% or so. Other strikers score more CCCs percentage than Torres still.

Dayo, this coogar guy is slooooow don't mind him. Do you remember his infamous argument that the value of a fraction reduces when the denominator reduces? Since that day, I never pay attention to any statistical argument the doofus makes, Primary school students have better grasp of arithmetic than that twerp.

So goals scored by strikers was 31% until Torres joined, then it dropped to 16%?

The funny thing about unintelligent people like coogar is that when they try to play with numbers, they end up looking stupid. In other words, Chelsea strikers contributed 31% of chelseas goals over the last 4 year's. In the last year that number dropped to 16% when Torres joined. Intact that number musta been closer to 40% but Torres 16% reduced the weighted average to 31%.

Another stupidity of using such metric for comparison is that teams who play 4-4-2 have double the number of strikers on the pitch than 4-5-1 teams so more of their goals would be scored by strikers.

Even the clear cut chances CCC metric is a better metric than this GSBS metric that this illiterate put up there. The CCC metric shows us that Torres scores only 25% of clear cut chances whilst guys like Demba Ba score 60% or so. Other strikers score more CCCs percentage than Torres still. Yet someone keep telling us to measure only Torres clear cut chances.

Dayo, this coogar guy is slooooow don't mind him. Do you remember his infamous argument that the value of a fraction reduces when the denominator reduces? Since that day, I never pay attention to any statistical argument the doofus makes, Primary school students have better grasp of arithmetic than that twerp.

coogar:

topping the chart twice is a one-off and a smaller class size! the stats above have shown you the number of goals chelsea's strikers have scored in the last 4 seasons in comparison to the other strikers in the league and chelsea fell way short by their own high standards!

Topping chart twice in 4 seasons is one off? Actually its two-off Odenson

In a class of 20 I student tops 2 times in 4 semesters and its seen as one-off

Where did you get your degree? Im sure if you had a Bachelors it must be in "Nateev Melecine" aka Babalawo

dayokanu:

You are a liar and a saphead.. What did I say? You are a bloody oaf

Chelsea ManU Arsenal Lpool Spurs Citeh

2008/2009 68 68 68 77 45 58
2009/2010 103 86 83 61 67 73
2010/2011 69 78 72 59 55 60
2011/2012 65 89 74 47 66 93


305 321 297 244 233 284

this dude is a bloody oaf!
he doesn't even know the difference between the goals scored by chelsea team as a whole and the goals scored only by chelsea strikers - english language is a problem for this pleb - i reiterate, tottenham's strikers have scored more goals than chelsea's strikers in the last 4 seasons! in case you have lost the ability to count, the score is tottenham 113-94 chelsea!

coogar:

this dude is a bloody oaf!
he doesn't even know the difference between the goals scored by chelsea team as a whole or the goals scored only by chelsea strikers - english language is a problem for this pleb - i reiterate, tottenham's strikers have scored more goals than chelsea's strikers in the last 4 seasons!

The poor Chelsea strikers have topped the scorers chart twice in the 4 seasons under review yet this oaf tells us 2 out of 4 is one-off?

Ibime: Dayo, this coogar guy is slooooow don't mind him. Do you remember his infamous argument that the value of a fraction reduces when the denominator reduces? Since that day, I never pay attention to any statistical argument the doofus makes, Primary school students have better grasp of arithmetic than that twerp.

Of course he would deny he isnt Sauron that made that argument.

Agberos and Alayes have a better grasp of Arithmetic than this coogar

Ibime: So goals scored by strikers was 31% until Torres joined, then it dropped to 16%?

the obnoxious odious obese charlatan speaketh!

The funny thing about unintelligent people like coogar is that when they try to play with numbers, they end up looking stupid. In other words, Chelsea strikers contributed 31% of chelseas goals over the last 4 year's. In the last year that number dropped to 16% when Torres joined. Intact that number musta been closer to 40% but Torres 16% reduced the weighted average to 31%.

how wont it drop to 16% when drogba(torres' strike partner) contributed less than 7 league goals all season - and this isn't the first time he would - he recorded the same poor stats in 07/08, so age is not the factor!

Another stupidity of using such metric for comparison is that teams who play 4-4-2 have double the number of strikers on the pitch than 4-5-1 teams so more of their goals would be scored by strikers.

arsenal played 4-2-3-1 last season when van persie scored 37 goals all through! other clubs have been playing 4-2-3-1 ever since chelsea dreamt of it! before torres joined, it was mostly anelka and drogba - how did they fare?

Even the clear cut chances CCC metric is a better metric than this GSBS metric that this illiterate put up there. The CCC metric shows us that Torres scores only 25% of clear cut chances whilst guys like Demba Ba score 60% or so. Other strikers score more CCCs percentage than Torres still. Yet someone keep telling us to measure only Torres clear cut chances.

rooney's stats on that is 24%, van persie is 23%
any more excuses? dr ibime?

Dayo, this coogar guy is slooooow don't mind him. Do you remember his infamous argument that the value of a fraction reduces when the denominator reduces? Since that day, I never pay attention to any statistical argument the doofus makes, Primary school students have better grasp of arithmetic than that twerp.

the adipose tissues finally wrapped itself around your brain-cells - you are singlehandedly the most idiotic obese charlatan this thread has ever produced! why is chelsea so far behind in the attack department than all the other clubs in the division? you want to blame it on 4-4-2 when stoke, sunderland, etc all use lone strikers!

Torres didn't score yesterday, but the analyst reports are nearly unanimous that he had a good game even though he didn't score.

If the much vaunted RVP is saying he wants to contribute more assists, what is wrong in Torres doing that in a game Chelski wins 4-0?

Yes Torres' first season and a half at Chelski were hideous by and large, but the lad's overall play has improved this season and I trust it will improve even further.

dayokanu:
The poor Chelsea strikers have topped the scorers chart twice in the 4 seasons under review yet this oaf tells us 2 out of 4 is one-off?

this is because you are genetically obtuse!
now look at this example.....

chelsea thread fc has nateevs and ibime as strikers
bayern thread fc has dayokanu and a40 as strikers
arsenal thread fc has debosky and mukina2 as strikers

season 1
ibime(30goals) nateevs(4 goals)
dayo(28 goals) a40(20 goals)
debo(25 goals) muki(23 goals)

season 2
ibime(4 goals) nateevs(15 goals)
dayo(22 goals) a40(19 goals)
debo(30 goals) muki(17 goals)

season 3
ibime(10 goals) nateevs(20 goals)
dayo(18 goals) a40(32 goals)
debo(22 goals) muki(17 goals)

season 4
ibime(9 goals) nateevs(40 goals)
dayo(33 goals) a40(29 goals)
debo(25 goals) muki(23 goals)

chelsea thread fc produced 2 top scorers in 4 seasons but who has the best strike force? who has the worst strikeforce? can you count? do you have a brain?
you are a pleb!

debosky: Torres didn't score yesterday, but the analyst reports are nearly unanimous that he had a good game even though he didn't score.

If the much vaunted RVP is saying he wants to contribute more assists, what is wrong in Torres doing that in a game Chelski wins 4-0?

Yes Torres' first season and a half at Chelski were hideous by and large, but the lad's overall play has improved this season and I trust it will improve even further.

Probably because the standards have sunk to new lows. If Lukaku scores 12 goals a season its deemed a succes but if RvP does same its not something to be proud of

if Torres smiles on the field thats an achievement given where we are coming from

PS: Mr Debosky, I checked UEFA website and Torres still has zero assist in this seasons CL. So which of the goals was assisted by Torres that wasnt recorded

dayokanu: Probably because the standards have sunk to new lows. If Lukaku scores 12 goals a season its deemed a succes but if RvP does same its not something to be proud of

if Torres smiles on the field thats an achievement given where we are coming from

I don't see any sinking of standards - a striker should score, no doubt about it. But when he doesn't, his overall game play has to be assessed for its merits, and Torres' overall game yesterday was excellent.

PS: Mr Debosky, I checked UEFA website and Torres still has zero assist in this seasons CL. So which of the goals was assisted by Torres that wasnt recorded

This is why it's good to watch games before commenting - how did the Luiz' goal come about?

debosky:

I don't see any sinking of standards - a striker should score, no doubt about it. But when he doesn't, his overall game play has to be assessed for its merits, and Torres' overall game yesterday was excellent.

This is why it's good to watch games before commenting - how did the Luiz' goal come about?

dayokanu is an imbëcile!
just because chelsea managed to produce 2 top scorers in 4 seasons, he concludes their strikeforce is superior- it took drogba 3 full seasons to score 20 league goals @ chelsea but the tool expects torres to do it in 1.5 seasons. drogba could only manage 2 golden boots in 8 seasons but the odious obtuse ibime expects torres to score score 40 goals under 2 seasons - i don't know why i visit this section - it's like talking to a brick wall!

van persie has scored 7 goals for man utd and he's unhappy his assist column reads 0 or 1. he said he wants to work on creating goals for his teammates - now that's a team player!! where is that fat bleached transvestite known as ibime! the man who thought llorente might be tired actually meant llorente was tired! if there's a place called heaven, ibime wouldn't be in it - he lies, he misappropriates facts - the fat geriatric serial wänker!

coogar:
how wont it drop to 16% when drogba(torres' strike partner) contributed less than 7 league goals all season - and this isn't the first time he would - he recorded the same poor stats in 07/08, so age is not the factor!

Drogba has been maintaining 40% till Torres came.

Last season:

Torres - 1912 minutes - 6 goals

Two months DD was in ANC, not even one goal.

Na who cause am?

coogar:
rooney's stats on that is 24%, van persie is 23%
any more excuses? dr ibime?

Liar! Liar! Pants on fire!

coogar:
the adipose tissues finally wrapped itself around your brain-cells - you are singlehandedly the most idiotic obese charlatan this thread has ever produced! why is chelsea so far behind in the attack department than all the other clubs in the division? you want to blame it on 4-4-2 when stoke, sunderland, etc all use lone strikers!

Ask Torres!!!


Meanwhile how come you reduce a fraction's value by reducing the denominator?

debosky: Torres didn't score yesterday, but the analyst reports are nearly unanimous that he had a good game even though he didn't score.

Nna mehn, awon boyz did not see it that way.

Count the Torres curses on here. . .

https://www.nairaland.com/1063122/ucl-fc-nordsjaelland-vs-chelsea/2

Torres shoulda buried the game outta sight but thanks to him, nerves were not settled till 80th minute

dayokanu:

Of course he would deny he isnt Sauron that made that argument.

Agberos and Alayes have a better grasp of Arithmetic than this coogar

lol

Man with no grasp of proportional reasoning want lecture us on stats. Which time crayfish become professor?

Ibime:
Drogba has been maintaining 40% till Torres came.
Last season:
Torres - 1912 minutes - 6 goals
Two months DD was in ANC, not even one goal.

you are a disgrace - how did you arrive @ 40% when lampard consistently outscored drogba in the first 2 seasons? must you lie? this is the list of the top scorers @ chelsea by the season....tell me how drogba could have maintained 40% when midfielders have consistently outscored the strikers?

chelsea's top goalscorers(league)by the season
2004/5 - frank lampard(13 goals)
2005/6 - frank lampard(16 goals)
2006/7 - didier drogba(20 goals)
2007/8 - frank lampard(10 goals)
2008/9 - nicholas anelka(20 goals)
2009/10 - didier drogba(29 goals)
2010/11 - florent malouda(13 goals)
2011/12 - sturridge/malouda(11 goals)


drogba:
(10/72) + (12/72) + (20/64) + (8/65) + (5/68) + (29/103) + (11/69)

drogba(the most prolific chelsea striker) copped 95 goals out of the 513 league goals chelsea scored between 04/05 and 10/11 season(when torres joined) and the fat charlatan thought drogba could have kept the strike force @ producing 40% of the total team goals scored! drogba's individual output is 18.5% and yet ibime keeps lying to us drogba kept the level @ 40% - you are a disgrace to every adult responsible for your mental development! damn - your math needs revival!

ibime, went to go and dig up useless stats - you think you can bamboozle your way out of this? you are in trouble tonight - I'd make you want to drink your nan's piss, you fat obtuse charlatan! show us the chance conversion rate and stop the ambiguous stats dug out from dayokanu's sticky rectum!

Meanwhile how come you reduce a fraction's value by reducing the denominator?

what is this autistic savant talking about?

Ibime:
lol
Man with no grasp of proportional reasoning want lecture us on stats. Which time crayfish become professor?

see this onanist!
i would decompose your adipose tissues in Laplace transforms! who do you think you are talking to, you blubbery pederast!!

Ibime:

Nna mehn, awon boyz did not see it that way.

Count the Torres curses on here. . .

https://www.nairaland.com/1063122/ucl-fc-nordsjaelland-vs-chelsea/2

Torres shoulda buried the game outta sight but thanks to him, nerves were not settled till 80th minute

I accept that - but we do know there's serious beef for Torres on NL. I'd rather like to look at independent commentators - ITV, Evening Standard, etc.

dayokanu:

Pikin fail dem say he get fine handwriting.

Hustle? is Torres a yahoo boy wey dey hustle?

So Torres is paid 50m to Hustle ni? for 50 Naira you would get Agbero at Obalende to hustle for you and save 49.999m Pounds

ROTF