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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 6:58pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
Spy360:Nothing else to rephrase bro... They knew and understand what I'm talking about. It is just that some are too deep into the fanboyism that they don't see the bigger picture. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 6:59pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
ObaIgwe1: Baba, I don't think folks like me expect Hale End players to start or see minutes in the EPL. However, there is no reason why they shouldn't be seeing minutes in cup competitions and in Europe when we have already qualified. Last season, many of our starters played many unnecessary minutes especially in Europe and Cup competitions and it cost us at the end. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 7:01pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
BlueRayDick:So that means you don't rate White too based on the screenshots you went to dig up earlier. That you went up to dig a year-old post shows you have nothing else to counter my post. Moreso, that post was in reaction to the news that Saliba wanted a guaranteed starting shirt before coming back to arsenal. An intelligent observant would have brilliantly interpreted that post as me telling Saliba to come and fight for his shirt. What else? |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 7:06pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
This calmness wey una dey attribute to Saliba anyhow, Partey plays a great role sef. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 7:07pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
Roland17: The funny thing is they are the ones belittling Saliba’s contribution to our success story last seaon, but they turn back to accuse us of denigrating White . They want to hype white more than what we all saw him do less than 2 years ago; it’s not like we are talking of 10 years ago o. It’s something still fresh in our memories . Saliba; a player that is being applauded by fans and opponents is the one they sha want us to place side by side with white whom he displaced . I just weak 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 7:08pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
ObaIgwe1:Oil dey your head bro... Now tell me how you would feel with Turner and Kiwior in the squad replacing Ramsdale and Gabriel respectively. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by ObaIgwe1: 7:09pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
BlueRayDick: You are the one forming narratives here... in one word you said I overhyped him, in another word word you said he was "decent", then you went on to he's "not bad"...Take a definite stand bro. My point remains that White is very good, he knows what to do as a defender and he does he job well QED. While it is good to win man of the match, that is not the only way or the best way to determine if a player is very good or not. If it is, then please tell me how many of such did Partey or Odegaard won last season or are they not that very good? BTW, Nketiah won it last season, but Jesus didn't at any time; are we going to say Nketiah is good but Jesus is just "not bad"? |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 7:09pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
BlueRayDick: Tell us you don turn this argument into sarcasm bro. The same Maguire? |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 7:10pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
Roland17:Norton-cuffy and Patino are young players I'm also worried would get underutilized. Even if na Carling cup, make we try them. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 7:11pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
Jodera: Lol. I dey come. Make i chop fes. I've been on white matter from start of last season. I highlighted a lot of things i consider not encouraging despite the way we defended well. Funny enough he did well during the drop weeks. But i dey come😂 Ben White!!! |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 7:12pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
ObaIgwe1: 🤣🤣🤣🤣 English no hard na . Something that is not bad is decent na , Haba! What’s contradictory in that ? U used “very good “ in ur original post I quoted and I disagreed with that . I believe very good is what Saliba showed on the pitch last season. Not bad/decent/average is what sums up Ben white’s first season as a CB for Arsenal . I hope u understand me now ? |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 7:13pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
BlueRayDick: Pesin make EPL team of the season, this is despite missing the end of the season due to injury oh. Arsenal dropped 15 points after his injury. The other one couldn't boast of a single player of the month for Arsenal as a CB. If this is what it will degenerate to then I go comot hand. E get some kain debates wen I no dey involve myself again. 2 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 7:15pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
germaphobe:Thank you. I even thought my statement was ambiguous. Looking at it clearly, those who oppose that point are looking it from ball-playing point of view whereas I'm talking about sauad depth. 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 7:15pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
mostob: Exactly! Even if na small cup competition, make these kids see playing time. I talked about the emboldened player last year. 2 Likes |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 7:16pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
mostob: U should read the post u quoted very well and try to understand what it says . Here is what Gary Neville says about his form for England vs Man Utd https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/neville-maguire-manchester-united-england-25640166.amp |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 7:18pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
iamoyindamola:Bro...when you want to win, you gotta sacrifice some things. Aside Foden and maybe Rico, which other academy player has Pep promoted so far? Yearly, Chelsea academy player wey dey go on loan may reach 30 sef If buying players is what Arteta thinks will work, make Dem dey buy them abeg. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by ObaIgwe1: 7:19pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
Roland17: So you blame White for Mari's underperformance? If the problem was with White, why didn't he replace White with Gabu na so we can try Mari and Gabu? Or you think Mari with Saliba would have delivered? I am not saying White is the best defender out there, but he knows his job and does it well. I don't see any team out there that will regret having him as a defender. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by ObaIgwe1: 7:20pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
Roland17: I agree with you on this. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 7:22pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
mostob: Don't misconstrue this debate baba. No one expects Arteta to start or play these kids in the EPL but there is no reason why they shouldn't see minutes in cup competitions or in Europa when group stage qualification was guaranteed. We played many of our starters unnecessary minutes in competitions outside of the EPL and knockout stages of the Europa last season. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by ObaIgwe1: 7:26pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
BlueRayDick: Show me one post since this debate started that belittled Saliba's contribution to our success story last season here and I will resign from this debate immediately. Nobody belittled Saliba so far, no one even rated White better than Saliba.... All some of us are just saying is that give White his due credit and not belittle or underate him too. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 7:28pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
ObaIgwe1: I am not blaming White for Mari's performance. However, his drop in form when partnered with Mari buttresses the case that he was stable playing alongside Gabu and struggled when Gabu was benched. Also, Gabu winning player of the month 3 times when he partnered White and White not winning any as a CB supports my argument that Gabu provided some predictability and stability for White. Is he decent defender? Yes but he isn't what you guys want us to accept. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 7:28pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
BlueRayDick:Lol.... bring me words from a better pundit abeg. Gary Neville? Maguire is decent in England colours but never as good as White. I remember vividly how there was an uproar when Southgate omitted White from his squad last year. And in your word, Saying White is very good at CB for arsenal is just ur way of overhyping him. So who is underrating who? |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 7:31pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
Roland17:I understand bro. Make we dey look am. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 7:35pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
ObaIgwe1: I should show u what exactly ? Somebody told u how crucial Saliba was to whatever we achieved last season by the number of games he was voted man of the match based on his performance but u turned back and say that’s not the only way of judging a player’s contribution . The thing is u probably believe in subjectivity more than obejevtivity as far as this point of discussion is concerned . U want to rely on “trust me bro” with no data to back ur assertions up . It will be an exercise in futility trying to make u see things other than the way u are seeing them as far as this matter is concerned . I rest my case 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 7:35pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
Roland17:Really? Team of the season? Player of the month? Partey hardly makes team of the season or player of the month, In fact he's hardly top3 contender most times if I'm not mistaken but you and I know that "a fit Partey would walk into any EPL starting 11" |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 7:37pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
mostob: So now it’s now about whether Gary Neville is a good pundit or not ? Omo! I bow for u o. Go to United thread and ask if Maguire doesn’t play better in England colors than when in United’s . This is even when almost everybody who watches football knows . Maguire started playing badly for England recently . |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Shegzdave: 7:38pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
mostob:All this no necessary boss. The important thing is Saliba is among those you listed as important and not having a backup that performs like they do. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 7:41pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
BlueRayDick:Lol...now I see your issue. You've already set a bar for "so so" player and how you want them to perform? No wonder you think people aren't excited for Odegaard because they expected him to do close of what Ozil is known for No wonder you're expecting White to be like Van dijk even when almost all the fan base never knew who White was before coming to arsenal in contrast to Van dijk who almost everyone knows as one of EPL best defenders before his switch to Liverpool. No wonder you say White is average in his first season. Expecting Absolute Van dijk performance from him |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by ObaIgwe1: 7:42pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
Roland17: lol... You think any of the best you think of will not drop in form if partnered with Mari? Even Great Gabu, the 3 times player of the month winner dropped form when partnered with Holding.... And IMO Mari is worse than Holding. Let's sort it out this way maybe it will let you appreciate my point: Among the top 6 plus Chelsea (Making 7 teams), we should have about 21 constant players playing at the RB or CB positions. If you can list 10 of these defenders that are better than White then I will give up... Else give White his due credit. I repeat, my point is not that he is the best, my point is that he is also very good defender with few errors. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 7:42pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
iamoyindamola:Thank God Spy done answer you. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 7:44pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
Jodera: I can see spy has join hands with u to form Nokia logo . He don train u well well….. see where u carry matter go. Wo I don tire already, I no get straight to follow u drag the matter again. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 7:44pm On Jun 29, 2023 |
Spy360:Gbamsolutely!! Na me and Mostob point be this. Nobody is also saying White is better than Saliba. |
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