If you are in a group or association in which you will be killed if you leave or you are being threatened of hell fire if you leave, then you are in a cult group. It does not matter if they are non violent. Threatening people with hell fire is enough. When you remain in such a group Oyeku meji is cast for you and you need to watch it.

religous people don't understand that,remove the threat of hell fire and the reward of heaven and see how many of them will still love their GOD

zangaozanga:
religous people don't understand that,remove the threat of hell fire and the reward of heaven and see how many of them will still love their GOD

It is not threat of hell fire. It is brainwashing. Faced with hell they will still choose Jesus. It is programming. That is why they are hooked in the cult

Right.
People didn’t have “religion” then, they had cults, cult of zeus, cult of yahweh etc.
The original meaning of “religion” has nothing to do with what it has become now.

zangaozanga:
religous people don't understand that,remove the threat of hell fire and the reward of heaven and see how many of them will still love their GOD

Ironically there are millions of people that are not scared of Hellfire threat nor reward of going to heaven and they're the most zealous preachers talking about their God everyday!

MaxInDHouse:


Ironically there are millions of people that are not scared of Hellfire threat nor reward of going to heaven and they're the most zealous preachers talking about their God everyday!

that's a very big lie,the foundation of most religion is fear and reward,remove both and religion will die a natural death

zangaozanga:

that's a very big lie,the foundation of most religion is fear and reward,remove both and religion will die a natural death

Because most of you don't know the purpose of religion. The true religion is about a global family of peace loving people where love is the main goal among worshipers who must treat themselves like brothers and sisters.
The true religion must serve as a refuge from man-made disasters like wars fueled by racism and politics so that adherents of true religion won't be lured into hating others in the face of politics and racism.
That's what religion supposed to do but since false religions are everywhere most of you that have not come across true religion feel there's no true religion.

You can liken true religion to FIRE while false religion is like it's SMOKE, FIRE could serve as light in the dark, heat for cooking your food and warming your body in times of cold but the SMOKE can't do any of these yet whenever you see the SMOKE you can't say there's no FIRE close by.

So just as there can't be SMOKE without FIRE there can never be false religions everywhere without the original somewhere all you need to figure out:
Where is the FIRE? True religion!

MaxInDHouse:


Because most of you don't know the purpose of religion. The true religion is about a global family of peace loving people where love is the main goal among worshipers who must treat themselves like brothers and sisters.
The true religion must serve as a refuge from man-made disasters like wars fueled by racism and politics so that adherents of true religion won't be lured into hating others in the face of politics and racism.
That's what religion supposed to do but since false religions are everywhere most of you that have not come across true religion feel there's no true religion.

You can liken true religion to FIRE while false religion is like it's SMOKE, FIRE could serve as light in the dark, heat for cooking your food and warming your body in times of cold but the SMOKE can't do any of these yet whenever you see the SMOKE you can't say there's no FIRE close by.

So just as there can't be SMOKE without FIRE there can never be false religions everywhere without the original somewhere all you need to figure out:
Where is the FIRE? True religion!

You have a point because people who do right against all odds are also practicing a sort of religion but presently you can't use the same word to describe Christianity/Islam and other theologies that are non invasive because if you do that you will never be able to separate the wheat from the chaff. You will be confusing yourself unwittingly while allowing those dangerous theologies to fester. That is the issue

lawani:

You have a point because people who do right against all odds are also practicing a sort of religion but presently you can't use the same word to describe Christianity/Islam and other theologies that are non invasive because if you do that you will never be able to separate the wheat from the chaff. You will be confusing yourself unwittingly while allowing those dangerous theologies to fester. That is the issue

The true religion is not about imperfect humans but a program on it's own that God planned to use as a means of rescuing good people so if you're looking at man's mistakes you can't find the true religion because those practicing true religion are also imperfect so they too do commit blunders at times.

The separation of the wheat and the chaff is ongoing presently, God's angels are doing the work with faithful humans who responded to the call to support the angels by speaking with their neighbours {Malachi 3:16} so if you're a good person it's not just by justifying yourself but partaking in the ongoing work to gather faithful people as God planned {Matthew 28:19-20} before destroying the wicked people! Psalms 37:9-11 compare to Proverbs 2:20-22 and Luke 19:27

Christianity is the one and only true religion but Satan is really intelligent he initiated many of his own agents {Matthew 13:25} they are also claiming Christians {2Corinthians 11:14} but God is wiser than Satan, He allowed for 2,000 years to pass so that Satan's agents have formed different religious sects with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines yet all claiming Christians before God began calling His own worshipers by another group name {Isaiah 65:15} that is the name God wanted all His worshipers from Abel till today to be called: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

Though you will notice the blunders of imperfect humans in their midst but Jesus has led them to the stream of living waters that's why POLITICS or RACISM has no hold on them so when all other religionists are blindfolded by Satan's veil {2Corinthians 4:4} to slaughter one another due to politics and racism {Revelations 6:3-4} the true religion have love among themselves {John 13:34-35} as Jesus has helped them to settle their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert all their resources into production of food and information materials, erased the making buying selling and usage of weapons and vowed never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:2-4

What else do you expect from true RELIGION?

If there's any that can help to bring people with different backgrounds, status, languages, works of life from all tribes of the earth under one umbrella to fulfil that! Isaiah 2:2

lawani:
If you are in a group or association in which you will be killed if you leave or you are being threatened of hell fire if you leave, then you are in a cult group. It does not matter if they are non violent. Threatening people with hell fire is enough. When you remain in such a group Oyeku meji is cast for you and you need to watch it.

So the earth is a cult because when you commit a crime, you shall be punished.

zangaozanga:
religous people don't understand that,remove the threat of hell fire and the reward of heaven and see how many of them will still love their GOD

Still makes no sense. Like saying remove the threat of punishment and see how many people shall be law abiding. Who would want such a people?

lawani:


It is not threat of hell fire. It is brainwashing. Faced with hell they will still choose Jesus. It is programming. That is why they are hooked in the cult

And you want them to choose hell? Now you show that Satan has brainwashed and contolled you.

lawani:


You have a point because people who do right against all odds are also practicing a sort of religion but presently you can't use the same word to describe Christianity/Islam and other theologies that are non invasive because if you do that you will never be able to separate the wheat from the chaff. You will be confusing yourself unwittingly while allowing those dangerous theologies to fester. That is the issue

After all the murders you say islam is non invasive? Na wa o

MaxInDHouse:

The true religion is not about imperfect humans but a program on it's own...

See how you prove that jw is satan controlled?

God clearly Said He wants perfect humans and here you are using the bible to lie. Exactly what Satan does!

vdestro:

See how you prove that jw is satan controlled?
God clearly Said He wants perfect humans and here you are using the bible to lie. Exactly what Satan does!

Guy, i've always told you that your tiny brain can't phantom what is coming from me that's why you need to ask thought provoking questions so as to grasp what i'm saying.

If you say God wants perfect humans how can imperfect humans (sinners) be perfect without a counselor to teach them? Isaiah 9:6

Go, then, and learn what this means: ‘I want mercy, and not sacrifice.’ For I came to call, not righteous people, but sinners" Matthew 9:13

The above statement came from the mouth of Jesus the one you claim you believe.
Now is he searching for perfect humans or imperfect humans?

vdestro:


So the earth is a cult because when you commit a crime, you shall be punished.

Punishment of criminals is not wrong but threat of hell fire as obtainable in Islam and Christianity is wrong

vdestro:


And you want them to choose hell? Now you show that Satan has brainwashed and contolled you.

You don't get it. If a Christian is given a choice abandon Jesus or get thrown in hell fire, they will choose Jesus. It is mind programming

MaxInDHouse:


Ironically there are millions of people that are not scared of Hellfire threat nor reward of going to heaven and they're the most zealous preachers talking about their God everyday!

Don’t forget that your JW cult excommunicates any member that decides to leave the cult. Why is that so?


Even his immediate family members who are members of the JW cult won’t have anything to do with their relative that leaves the cult..

Whenever you’re trying to fool people to join you, always tell them that they would suffer rejection from their so called brethren in the event that they leave the cult.

vdestro:


After all the murders you say islam is non invasive? Na wa o

What I meant is Islam and Christianity are the only know it all invasive religions that are not coherent among themselves while wanting to convert the whole world and threatening unbelievers with hell. Do you now understand?

advocatejare:

Don’t forget that your JW cult excommunicates any member that decides to leave the cult. Why is that so?


Even his immediate family members who are members of the JW cult won’t have anything to do with their relative that leaves the cult..

Whenever you’re trying to fool people to join you, always tell them that they would suffer rejection from their so called brethren in the event that they leave the cult.

The JW don't know they are practicing cultism and it is sad

advocatejare:

Don’t forget that your JW cult excommunicates any member that decides to leave the cult. Why is that so?

Read the verse below:
Now I urge you, brothers, to keep your eye on those who create divisions and causes for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them! Romans 16:17

If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For the one who says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works. 2John 1:10-11

Please answer this question:

Does the above excommunication rule from two apostles of Christ include immediate family members who turned against the faith?

lawani:

The JW don't know they are practicing cultism and it is sad

I have discussed this issue with you in the past but it seems you don't understand how the application goes.

The world now calls their prison "correction centers" because they want those in charge to know that the convict is not to be cruelly dealt with but to distance him or her from the society for some time until he/she learns how to cohabit with others.

The same is what God's organization is doing we excommunicate unrepentant wrongdoers (note the word UNREPENTANT) so unlike the world that will imprison all wrongdoers we are selective because many did what is wrong under extreme measures beyond their control.

So i prefer the way God's people does things!

lawani:


The JW don't know they are practicing cultism and it is sad

They know. It’s their mode of operation. I only pity their gullible followers. People like MaxInDHouse are deliberately misleading the people, they will surely get their rewards!

MaxInDHouse:

I have discussed this issue with you in the past but it seems you don't understand how the application goes.

The world now calls their prison "correction centers" because they want those in charge to know that the convict is not to be cruelly dealt with but to distance him or her from the society for some time until he/she learns how to cohabit with others.

The same is what God's organization is doing we excommunicate unrepentant wrongdoers (note the word UNREPENTANT) so unlike the world that will imprison all wrongdoers we are selective because many did what is wrong under extreme measures beyond their control.

So i prefer the way God's people does things!

You excommunicate for beliefs not for doing evil and that is wrong

MaxInDHouse:


Read the verse below:
Now I urge you, brothers, to keep your eye on those who create divisions and causes for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them! Romans 16:17

If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For the one who says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works. 2John 1:10-11

Please answer this question:

Does the above excommunication rule from two apostles of Christ include immediate family members who turned against the faith?

Demons live inside of you for always deliberately misinterpreting the scriptures to suit your demonic cult doctrines.

2 John 1:7
For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not confess the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh. Such a one is the deceiver and the antichrist.

2 John 1:10
“If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting, for whoever greets him takes part in his wicked works.”


The verse is talking about not receiving people bringing a different teaching from that of Christ into your home not about excommunication of your family members who decide to leave your cult

lawani:

You excommunicate for beliefs not for doing evil and that is wrong

Of course it's because of their EVIL but you only need explanations.

Before anyone study the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses you can't be excommunicated after all you've not vowed to live your life in harmony with our beliefs so we greet and treat you like everyone else in the world but once you dedicate yourself to our God and vow to live for our beliefs we treat you like a member of our global family and anywhere you go on this planet you're welcome as one of our family members.

So if you now decide to turn your back on what makes you a member of our family then the bond is no longer there Paul said we must avoid you {Romans 16:17} and John said we shouldn't greet you! 2John 1:10-11

This is appropriate because we wouldn't like the story that touch for associating with someone who already knows what is good but decided to turn his/her back.

So if those excommunicated knows that our organization is evil they're supposed to be happy that devils have abandoned them not complaining because their complaints means they are missing GOOD GOOD PEOPLE!

advocatejare:

Demons live inside of you for always deliberately misinterpreting the scriptures to suit your demonic cult doctrines.

2 John 1:7
For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not confess the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh. Such a one is the deceiver and the antichrist.

2 John 1:10
“[bIf anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting,[/b] for whoever greets him takes part in his wicked works.”


The verse is talking about not receiving people bringing a different teaching from that of Christ into your home not about excommunication of your family members who decide to leave your cult

I really love the highlighted!

Please since you have relatives who aren't members of your faith do you stop your Muslim, Traditional and Agnostic relatives from coming to your house? Do you avoid them? Do you stop greeting them?

MaxInDHouse:


I really love the highlighted!

Please since you have relatives who aren't members of your faith do you stop your Muslim, Traditional and Agnostic relatives from coming to your house? Do you avoid them? Do you stop greeting them?

I don’t.

But why do JW cult do that to their family members that leave their cult ?

advocatejare:

I don’t.

But why do JW cult do that to their family members that leave their cult ?

What do you mean by the highlighted?

Are you saying you don't have any relation that is not of the same faith with you?

MaxInDHouse:
Read the verse below:
Now I urge you, brothers, to keep your eye on those who create divisions and causes for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them! Romans 16:17

If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For the one who says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works. 2John 1:10-11

Please answer this question:

Does the above excommunication rule from two apostles of Christ include immediate family members who turned against the faith?

There's nothing excommunication rule from those verses it's just another man made doctrine.

Those two verses is talking about avoiding/stay away from their TEACHINGS l.

Compare what those verses are saying to what your organisation is doing today objectively you'll see the clear picture.

lawani:
If you are in a group or association in which you will be killed if you leave or you are being threatened of hell fire if you leave, then you are in a cult group. It does not matter if they are non violent. Threatening people with hell fire is enough. When you remain in such a group Oyeku meji is cast for you and you need to watch it.

There's no group or association that doesn't have punishment for the wrong doing of their members. So if you want to be objective, don't limit it to kill and Hell Fire threat alone.

Emusan:

There's nothing excommunication rule from those verses it's just another man made doctrine. Those two verses is talking about avoiding/stay away from their TEACHINGS l.
Compare what those verses are saying to what your organisation is doing today objectively you'll see the clear picture.

EXCOMMUNICATION (DISFELLOWSHIP) is the one and only punishment amongst first century Christians that's because anyone who goes against tenets has turned his or her back on the faith {1John 2:19} that's why apostle John said true Christians shouldn't allow such ones in their homes neither eat with them nor even greet them! 2John 1:10-11