lawani:


Is circus not a congregation?. Is a building a congregation?. Ijo can meet in a building but ijo is not a building, ijo is a congregation meaning church

Circus is a building were worshippers of Circe worship.

Ijo does not mean a building, is a shrine an ijo?

Congregation is ekkelesia not church.

Look at your fellow yahweh worshipper.

Maynman:

He knows EVERYTHING.
COMPLETE AND INFINITE KNOWLEDGE, not to add that this same deity also created you, gave you 2 hands for a reason, gave you all your desires for a reason .

read what you sent

I used what you used it shows it in it strictest form you understood what I'm saying you are just in denial.

Lawag3:


I used what you used it shows it in it strictest form you understood what I'm saying you are just in denial.

You can’t lie to yourself, you are the one in denial.
If i invent something i am automatically omniscienc, i know all pasts, present and future 😂😂

Lawag3:


I used what you used it shows it in it strictest form you understood what I'm saying you are just in denial.

read na.

Without exception or limitations.
Every detail and facts.

Read na

Past present and future, an omniscience god knows exactly the people that will be in hell before he even created them.

lawani:


Common sense is enough to realize that God who you can't see can not be offended by you and that you need to focus on the person you wronged. Islam is a sect of Christianity and Mohammed was converted by his catholic wife which is why he believed in the immaculate conception of Jesus. The first religion is Christianity. Christianity was spread by the sword as well. Only kids and impressionable adults can be scared by fairy tales in books of religion. Not someone like me.

Islam is a sect of Christianity guy you are very funny 😂

When did bible tell christians to spread Christianity by the sword?

Then don't be threatened by it since you are not scared.

Maynman:


read na.

Without exception or limitations.
Every detail and facts.

Read na

Past present and future, an omniscience god knows exactly the people that will be in hell before he even created them.

You saying God can not know every possible outcome is a limitation means God can never be surprised.

Lawag3:



You saying God can not know every possible outcome is a limitation means God can never be surprised.

I didn’t say that.
I said an omniscience god knows the PAST PRESENT AND FUTURE, he knows who will be in hell before he created them.

He knows everything.
You are the one limiting your god to defend your deity.

Lawag3:


Islam is a sect of Christianity guy you are very funny 😂

When did bible tell christians to spread Christianity by the sword?

Then don't be threatened by it since you are not scared.

Where could Mohammed have learnt Bible stories if not from Christians?. Prior to Mohammed only Christians peddled the tale of the virgin birth and a special status for Jesus Christ. Jews don't believe that nonsense. What makes him not a Christian?. He accepted Jesus and believed in the immaculate conception. Bro he was a Christian with his own sect just like Mormons, JW and etc. He was a Christian

Maynman:

I didn’t say that.
I said an omniscience god knows the PAST PRESENT AND FUTURE, he knows who will be in hell before he created them.

He knows everything.
You are the one limiting your god to defend your deity.

You yourself you are omniscient with Ifa and omnipotent as well with iseegun if you learn it. Iseegun is still like Ifa because they use formulas. Therefore you have magic and are therefore omnipotent and omniscient. How much more God?. The existence of magic answers your question. There is no hell. Why would there be hell? You created yourself at the domain of Ajalamopin, so whatever is your destiny was engineered by you.

lawani:


You yourself you are omniscient with Ifa and omnipotent as well with iseegun if you learn it. Iseegun is still like Ifa because they use formulas. Therefore you have magic and are therefore omnipotent and omniscient. How much more God?. The existence of magic answers your question. There is no hell. Why would there be hell? You created yourself at the domain of Ajalamopin, so whatever is your destiny was engineered by you.

Repeating jargons doesn’t make it right.

Maynman:

Repeating jargons doesn’t make it right.

Your comprehension ability is impaired.

lawani:


Your comprehension ability is impaired.

Your reasoning ability is impaired.

See dullard thinking.
“ You yourself you are omniscient with Ifa and omnipotent as well with iseegun if you learn it. Iseegun is still like Ifa because they use formulas. Therefore you have magic and are therefore omnipotent and omniscient”

lawani:


Your comprehension ability is impaired.

can i be omni kinesis with ifa?

There are many “omni” ooo
Omnikinesis is more powerful than omnipotent gan 😂😂 which your creator is.

Maynman:

I didn’t say that.
I said an omniscience god knows the PAST PRESENT AND FUTURE, he knows who will be in hell before he created them.

He knows everything.
You are the one limiting your god to defend your deity.

And he knows this person can escape hell if he lives right no I'm not limiting God. that's from chatgpt it's what there and you are denying it.😳 I know your mind is made up on this.

Lawag3:


And he knows this person can escape hell if he lives right no I'm not limiting God.

An omniscience god doesn’t work with “if”, it’s planned already to the end before you were born. Look up the definition of “omniscience”.
Keep living in denial.

lawani:


Where could Mohammed have learnt Bible stories if not from Christians?. Prior to Mohammed only Christians peddled the tale of the virgin birth and a special status for Jesus Christ. Jews don't believe that nonsense. What makes him not a Christian?. He accepted Jesus and believed in the immaculate conception. Bro he was a Christian with his own sect just like Mormons, JW and etc. He was a Christian

Nope accepting Jesus was born by a virgin doesn't make Mohammed a Christian he says Jesus isn't God that's denying Jesus Christ power.

My guy I don't mean to insult you but it's is a well Know fact that Mohammed was not a Christian it is know by secular historians and everyone saying this implies that you can't find anything wrong with Christianity itself that's why you have to say it's the same with Islam just to discredit it. Even though you know that it's not. You are better than this.😔

Maynman:

An omniscience god doesn’t work with “if”, it’s planned already to the end before you were born. Look up the definition of “omniscience”.
Keep living in denial.

You are the one living in denial. Knowing if different from what if he has already seen how everything will play out in your life in different scenarios and circumstance he knows what will happen if you take a certain path today he knows what will happen if you don't take it.

I Know your problem you can't come to the reality that an omniscient being can grant free will and still be omniscient you also forget this God is all powerful. I asked chatgpt that question hear is it's answer.

God's Omniscience and Free Will

User
Can God grant freewill and still be omniscient

ChatGPT
The relationship between free will and omniscience has been a subject of philosophical and theological debate for centuries. The question of whether God can grant free will and still be omniscient is known as the problem of divine foreknowledge and human free will.

Omniscience means having complete and perfect knowledge of all things, including past, present, and future. If God is omniscient, it would mean that God knows everything that has happened, is happening, and will happen, including all our choices and actions.

Free will, on the other hand, refers to the ability of individuals to make choices and decisions that are not determined by external factors or predestined events. It implies that individuals have the power to choose between different courses of action.

The apparent conflict arises when considering the idea that if God already knows everything that will happen in the future, then our choices and actions might seem predetermined, and thus free will could be called into question.

Several philosophical and theological positions have been proposed to address this problem:

Predestination: Some religious traditions propose the idea of predestination, wherein God's omniscience means that He knows all future events, including our choices, and these events are already preordained or predetermined. In this view, free will coexists with God's omniscience, but our choices are still known in advance.

Open Theism: Open theism suggests that God has chosen not to know the future choices of individuals to preserve human free will. In this view, God's omniscience is limited to what is knowable, and the future, being undetermined, remains open.

Middle Knowledge: This concept, proposed by Luis de Molina, suggests that God has "middle knowledge," which allows Him to know what individuals would freely choose under any given circumstance. In this way, God's omniscience includes knowledge of all possible choices without determining the actual choices.

Compatibilism: Some philosophers argue that free will and determinism (or predestination) can coexist. They define free will as the ability to act according to one's desires and beliefs, even if those desires and beliefs are causally determined. In this view, free will is compatible with God's omniscience, as God's knowledge of our choices is a result of knowing our causal dispositions.

It's essential to recognize that this is a complex and ongoing philosophical and theological debate, and there is no universally accepted answer. The concept of God's omniscience and its relationship with free will is deeply intertwined with various religious beliefs and philosophical perspectives. Different religious traditions and scholars may have varying interpretations of these concepts.

T

Lawag3:


Nope accepting Jesus was born by a virgin doesn't make Mohammed a Christian he says Jesus isn't God that's denying Jesus Christ power.

My guy I don't mean to insult you but it's is a well Know fact that Mohammed was not a Christian it is know by secular historians and everyone saying this implies that you can't find anything wrong with Christianity itself that's why you have to say it's the same with Islam just to discredit it. Even though you know that it's not. You are better than this.😔

Jesus Christ did not become the God of Christians immediately. At first different preachers were preaching a variety of doctrines and a conference had to be called to harmonize the teachings. That was the council of Nice. It was at that conference that Jesus was made God. Obviously some other sects preached their own doctrine to Mohammed and it stuck. Accepting Jesus as a prophet and believing the virgin birth means you were converted by a Christian sect and there were many and there are still many today. Mohammed obviously was a Christian and Islam another sect of Christianity. Note that Jews see Jesus not as a prophet but as a criminal

Lawag3:


he knows what will happen if you take a certain path today he knows what will happen if you don't take it.

But he does not know exactly the path i will take, right?
How then does he know the end?
According to you, He only knows possible circumstances that will happen in the end, but he doesn’t know what the end will be.

That’s not Omniscience and there is nothing wrong in that, you can be omnipotent and not be omniscience.

Your chatgpt did you read it before posting?😂😂

Maynman:

An omniscience god doesn’t work with “if”, it’s planned already to the end before you were born. Look up the definition of “omniscience”.
Keep living in denial.

Let me use an analogy. Behavior analysts are omniscient so far what you will do next is concerned. They are amoranbinioyo. What you will do next is determined by your character which can NEVER change and that character was chosen by you. Your ayanmo can not be altered. The CIA are behavior analysts which makes them omniscient so far what who is under their surveillance will do next is concerned. Therefore God is omniscient like the CIA and it does not affect freewill at all. That is the issue

Lawag3:


I Know your problem you can't come to the reality that an omniscient being can grant free will and still be omniscient you also forget this God is all powerful. I asked chatgpt that question hear is it's answer.

Did you read the chatgpt you sent?
“ Omniscience means having complete and perfect knowledge of all things, including past, present, and future.If God is omniscient, it would mean that God knows everything that has happened, is happening, and will happen, including all our choices and actions.”

lawani:


Let me use an analogy. Behavior analysts are omniscient so far what you will do next is concerned. They are amoranbinioyo. What you will do next is determined by your character which can NEVER change and that character was chosen by you. Your ayanmo can not be altered. The CIA are behavior analysts which makes them omniscient so far what who is under their surveillance will do next is concerned. Therefore God is omniscient like the CIA and it does not affect freewill at all. That is the issue

Behavior analyst are not Omniscience, they don’t know what billions of people are doing PRESENTLY.

You are lost!

Having knowledge in a field doesn’t make you ALL knowing.

Maynman:

But he does not know exactly the path i will take, right?
How then does he know the end?
According to you, He only knows possible circumstances that will happen in the end, but he doesn’t know what the end will be.

That’s not Omniscience and there is nothing wrong in that, you can be omnipotent and not be omniscience.

Your chatgpt did you read it before posting?😂😂

He knows the end from the beginning but how many steps between the beginning and the end he may not know. He is also omnipotent

lawani:

he may not know. He is also omnipotent

He is not omniscience then, he is nigh omniscience.
And since he does not know everything, he can’t be the most powerful unless you mean by sheer strength.

An omniscience god knows everything that has happened, is happening, and will happen, including all our choices and actions.

Maynman:

Did you read the chatgpt you sent?
“ Omniscience means having complete and perfect knowledge of all things, including past, present, and future.If God is omniscient, it would mean that God knows everything that has happened, is happening, and will happen, including all our choices and actions.”

Your choice can never surprise someone who knows your character but your character was chosen by you and not by God. Your definition of omniscience is right and God is omniscient.

lawani:


Your choice can never surprise someone who knows your character but your character was chosen by you and not by God. Your definition of omniscience is right and God is omniscient.

You didn’t create yourself, your characters were created with you.
Also, knowing someone character doesn’t make one omniscience 😂
It’s not my definition, it’s the definition of “omniscience”.
According to you your god doesn’t know somethings especially your freewill and he is not Omniscience, you are right.

Lawag3:


You are the one living in denial. Knowing if different from what if he has already seen how everything will play out in your life in different scenarios and circumstance he knows what will happen if you take a certain path today he knows what will happen if you don't take it.

I Know your problem you can't come to the reality that an omniscient being can grant free will and still be omniscient you also forget this God is all powerful. I asked chatgpt that question hear is it's answer.

God's Omniscience and Free Will

User
Can God grant freewill and still be omniscient

ChatGPT
The relationship between free will and omniscience has been a subject of philosophical and theological debate for centuries. The question of whether God can grant free will and still be omniscient is known as the problem of divine foreknowledge and human free will.

Omniscience means having complete and perfect knowledge of all things, including past, present, and future. If God is omniscient, it would mean that God knows everything that has happened, is happening, and will happen, including all our choices and actions.

Free will, on the other hand, refers to the ability of individuals to make choices and decisions that are not determined by external factors or predestined events. It implies that individuals have the power to choose between different courses of action.

The apparent conflict arises when considering the idea that if God already knows everything that will happen in the future, then our choices and actions might seem predetermined, and thus free will could be called into question.

Several philosophical and theological positions have been proposed to address this problem:

Predestination: Some religious traditions propose the idea of predestination, wherein God's omniscience means that He knows all future events, including our choices, and these events are already preordained or predetermined. In this view, free will coexists with God's omniscience, but our choices are still known in advance.

Open Theism: Open theism suggests that God has chosen not to know the future choices of individuals to preserve human free will. In this view, God's omniscience is limited to what is knowable, and the future, being undetermined, remains open.

Middle Knowledge: This concept, proposed by Luis de Molina, suggests that God has "middle knowledge," which allows Him to know what individuals would freely choose under any given circumstance. In this way, God's omniscience includes knowledge of all possible choices without determining the actual choices.

Compatibilism: Some philosophers argue that free will and determinism (or predestination) can coexist. They define free will as the ability to act according to one's desires and beliefs, even if those desires and beliefs are causally determined. In this view, free will is compatible with God's omniscience, as God's knowledge of our choices is a result of knowing our causal dispositions.

It's essential to recognize that this is a complex and ongoing philosophical and theological debate, and there is no universally accepted answer. The concept of God's omniscience and its relationship with free will is deeply intertwined with various religious beliefs and philosophical perspectives. Different religious traditions and scholars may have varying interpretations of these concepts.

T

If a cutlass is thrown 200 times, it will always land on the flatside. All things being equal, the choice of a human being will NEVER change. Middle Knowledge is the most valid proposition. A murderer will murder again. A cheater will cheat again. A thief will steal again. If placed under the same exact circumstance. What caused it the first time will cause it again the second time.

Maynman:

Did you read the chatgpt you sent?
“ Omniscience means having complete and perfect knowledge of all things, including past, present, and future.If God is omniscient, it would mean that God knows everything that has happened, is happening, and will happen, including all our choices and actions.”

Oga why now it's like you are blind you excluded as well having knowledge of every fact knowledge details and possibility and you are telling me to read it again 🤯 bro you are drowning in denial 😂

Maynman:

You didn’t create yourself, your characters were created with you.
Also, knowing someone character doesn’t make one omniscience 😂
It’s not my definition, it’s the definition of “omniscience”.
According to you your god doesn’t know somethings especially your freewill and he is not Omniscience, you are right.

YOU CREATED YOURSELF

Lawag3:


Oga why now it's like you are blind you excluded as well having knowledge of every fact knowledge details and possibility and you are telling me to read it again 🤯 bro you are drowning in denial 😂

Are you blind?
Every fact, details and Every possibility before you were born.
What does past, present and future mean?
😂😂

lawani:


YOU CREATED YOURSELF

How can I create myself?
Who is the creator?
Who is the creation?
If i was already created why do i need to create myself again?

Lawag3:


Oga why now it's like you are blind you excluded as well having knowledge of every fact knowledge details and possibility and you are telling me to read it again 🤯 bro you are drowning in denial 😂

You are slaving in ignorance and illiteracy, this is not even denial.

They say all knowing, he knows it all.