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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 3:45pm On Aug 07, 2023
koonbey:


At the risk of chooking my mouth in matter wey no concern me…Are you sure you aren’t reading too much into his banter?

I doubt it was intended to be disparaging to her or any person of mixed heritage. If anything it was self-deprecating humor to say he wished he could claim American citizenship.

Reading too much ........ I can't question how deep people's thoughts travel..........
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 3:47pm On Aug 07, 2023
koonbey:


At the risk of chooking my mouth in matter wey no concern me…Are you sure you aren’t reading too much into his banter?

I doubt it was intended to be disparaging to her or any person of mixed heritage. If anything it was self-deprecating humor to say he wished he could claim American citizenship.

So many things around me offend me(even comments) ...... I simply just look & laugh.......😂😂
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Peerielass: 3:49pm On Aug 07, 2023
Lexusgs430:



Was my comment directed at your child .........

It doesn’t matter whether it was directed at my child or at another mixed race child. It had racist undertones. Do better.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 3:49pm On Aug 07, 2023
Peerielass:


It doesn’t matter whether it was directed at my child or at another mixed race child. It had racist undertones. Do better.

You're in no position to advice me .......

My freedom of expression, remains intact (before and after).......

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Schoolhike: 3:53pm On Aug 07, 2023
amanze54:
Please I need some guidance, advice and feedback...

I have two offers which I am divided on which to choose

This is a significant decision and both options have their own set of pros and cons.

As a **prison officer**, you'll have a stable job with a decent starting salary. It's a job that comes with a good deal of responsibility and can be highly rewarding if you're interested in a role that has a real impact on people's lives. However, working in a prison environment can be stressful and challenging, requiring strong emotional resilience.

On the other hand, the **physics teacher training program** also offers many benefits. Firstly, you'd receive a bursary which essentially pays you while you train. On completion of the course, you'll have qualifications that allow you to teach not just in the UK but in many places around the world. Teaching can be a rewarding career if you enjoy helping others learn and grow. Additionally, the demand for physics teachers is high, which could mean job security and potential for advancement in the future.

However, teaching can also be a demanding job and at the end of your training, you would need to secure a teaching position which might be challenging.

Here are a few factors to consider:

1. **Your Interests:** Which role aligns more closely with your interests and career goals? Are you more interested in working in law enforcement and rehabilitation, or in education?

2. **Work-Life Balance:** Consider the working hours and how this could impact your work-life balance. Teaching often requires work outside of classroom hours, such as marking and lesson planning. Similarly, being a prison officer could involve shifts and potentially stressful situations.

3. **Job Security:** While both professions are in demand, you already have a job offer as a prison officer. As a teacher, you'll still need to secure a job after your training.

4. **Long-Term Prospects:** Which role has better long-term prospects in terms of job satisfaction, salary growth, and career progression?

5. **Peculiarity of the Country:** You mentioned the peculiarity of the country (UK). It's important to understand how these roles are perceived, the challenges each profession faces, and their future outlook in the UK context.

Given these points, it ultimately depends on your personal preference, career goals, lifestyle, and interest in either of the fields. You may also want to seek advice from professionals in both fields or career advisors to gain more insight.

**Copied**

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Schoolhike: 4:28pm On Aug 07, 2023
amanze54:
Please I need some guidance, advice and feedback...

I have two offers which I am divided on which to choose

Well, I was once in this shoe of making a related decisions but mine align with my careers.

But I prioritized job security which permanent job over contract job.

Considering the fact that the prison officer role is a civil service job, it’s might be a little bit easier for you to move to other departments within civil service that relates well with your career goals. For instance if you’ve got good skills and experience in data analytics, while at the prison officer job continue submitting more applications for jobs that aligns with your goals.

The reason why I prefer permanent is that
1. Settle mind / peace of mind.
2. No pressure in applying for job that doesnt relate to your goals anymore.
3. Considering the competition for job out there.
4. Better plan for the future.

If to say the two jobs are permanent, I would have advised to go for the one that will give more flexibility since both are not related to my career goals, so you will have more time to apply and upskill your self more to search for job that aligns with your goal.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Phayie(m): 4:31pm On Aug 07, 2023
Noworries11:
Brethren
In order to kill procrastination, I decided to select and book a date (17th of August) for my theory test...
Presently i do score 46/50 with the 4 in 1 app
So far 47 max however I do score 4/5 on the average on hazard perception but sometimes would score zero on the same hazard perception

Is there sth I have not understood or getting wrong
I get shocked and confused whenever this happens... I only use the 4 in 1 app (self study)

Elders and those who passed with the app
Abeg advise or recommend practice style/materials
Thank you

In hazard perception, make sure you click each perceived hazard at least 3 times and not more than 5 times to avoid clicking too early or too late. And don't click more than 10 times for each hazard perception video. You only need to score at least 3 marks in each video to pass

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by amanze54: 4:58pm On Aug 07, 2023
@Schoolhike God bless you well well. You understand the state of my mind now with your input.

Please other experienced men and women add your input
@Lexus, @Lagosismyhome, @Justwise. Plenty people to mention name here

Schoolhike:


Well, I was once in this shoe of making a related decisions but mine align with my careers.

But I prioritized job security which permanent job over contract job.

Considering the fact that the prison officer role is a civil service job, it’s might be a little bit easier for you to move to other departments within civil service that relates well with your career goals. For instance if you’ve got good skills and experience in data analytics, while at the prison officer job continue submitting more applications for jobs that aligns with your goals.

The reason why I prefer permanent is that
1. Settle mind / peace of mind.
2. No pressure in applying for job that doesnt relate to your goals anymore.
3. Considering the competition for job out there.
4. Better plan for the future.

If to say the two jobs are permanent, I would have advised to go for the one that will give more flexibility since both are not related to my career goals, so you will have more time to apply and upskill your self more to search for job that aligns with your goal.

Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 5:09pm On Aug 07, 2023
Schoolhike:


Hmm, data engineering the junior salary for that position lasan and also database administrators (couldn’t believe that it’s still very much relevant due to companies going cloud computing way).

Infact a department in civil service added an uplift of 10,000£ to the base salary.
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Yes na, it's a job in demand, and anyone with a degree in data science is seen already to be experienced, na to just package. na foresight de worry man, if some of us knew this 5 years ago, we know where we will be now
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by amanze54: 5:25pm On Aug 07, 2023
Yeah you are right bro, but during interview for mostly data science you will discover that each firm has adopted a particular particular application and protocol, then I go back to updating my skills on that. A very vast field.
But at this point man must wack while pushing for the big prize

Goke7:

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Yes na, it's a job in demand, and anyone with a degree in data science is seen already to be experienced, na to just package. na foresight de worry man, if some of us knew this 5 years ago, we know where we will be now

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Schoolhike: 5:40pm On Aug 07, 2023
Goke7:

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Yes na, it's a job in demand, and anyone with a degree in data science is seen already to be experienced, na to just package. na foresight de worry man, if some of us knew this 5 years ago, we know where we will be now

Lol, met a friend of a friend earning 95k, just a sneak peak into the person cv, I’m also vast in most of the skills but packaging no too dey, lol.

But we will get there shaa.

You are right in regards to his master’s qualifications, I remembered when I was rejected for an NHS job interview just because I’ve not got the qualification but only got the experience. Was told that they give preference to qualifications over experience, so therefore unfortunately is the message. Lol 😂

But just note that if you’ve got qualifications you need to still no what you are doing.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 7:21pm On Aug 07, 2023
[quote author=amanze54 post=124942649]Please I need some guidance, advice and feedback...

I have two offers which I am divided on which to choose

I am through with my MSc in Data Science here and already on tier 2 courtesy of my wife who got a sponsored support work

The first offer is a prison officer with a starting salary of 28k.

The second offer is a Department of Education Financed training to be a physic teacher with a bursary of 28k for 10 month, I will be paid 19k while 9k will go to the Secondary school providing the training which is affiliated to a university. At the end I will be given QTS ( qualifications to teach) and a PGCE. Now at the end of the training, I am required to look for a teaching job.

Please I need a guidance on which to go, given the peculiarity of this country.

September is start date for both.

Do not mind any grammatical error.
Note I can't do both given the way the training is structured
[/quote)

I will advise you pick the teaching job.

ALso pls drop tutorial how you were able to secure both jobs
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 7:28pm On Aug 07, 2023
Schoolhike:


Hmm, data engineering the junior salary for that position lasan and also database administrators (couldn’t believe that it’s still very much relevant due to companies going cloud computing way).

Infact a department in civil service added an uplift of 10,000£ to the base salary.
How do go about applying for a civil service jobs please
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 7:34pm On Aug 07, 2023
amanze54:
Yeah you are right bro, but during interview for mostly data science you will discover that each firm has adopted a particular particular application and protocol, then I go back to updating my skills on that. A very vast field.
But at this point man must wack while pushing for the big prize

lol e say na man must wack
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Atk1nson(m): 7:36pm On Aug 07, 2023
amanze54:
Please I need some guidance, advice and feedback...

I have two offers which I am divided on which to choose

I am through with my MSc in Data Science here and already on tier 2 courtesy of my wife who got a sponsored support work

The first offer is a prison officer with a starting salary of 28k.

The second offer is a Department of Education Financed training to be a physic teacher with a bursary of 28k for 10 month, I will be paid 19k while 9k will go to the Secondary school providing the training which is affiliated to a university. At the end I will be given QTS ( qualifications to teach) and a PGCE. Now at the end of the training, I am required to look for a teaching job.



I feel the offers are low. For someone not seeking visa sponsorship, I believe you should be able to get much higher

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by amanze54: 7:52pm On Aug 07, 2023
Yeah you have a point there, I have looked that I have advantage to bargain but salaries are fixed for the role, also since I don't have other jobs offer on the table, I feel I need to take up one

Atk1nson:


I feel the offers are low. For someone not seeking visa sponsorship, I believe you should be able to get much higher
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by amanze54: 8:06pm On Aug 07, 2023
The teaching training was advertised
But when I came to UK and created a new Facebook account here in UK and link it to all my Google activity ( these activities includes jobs application and assessment I have done in the early days when I arrived in the uk September 2021), I am always having feeds of government job opportunities and training on my Facebook wall. I applied to both jobs on the link in those feeds on my Facebook.
[quote author=lavida001 post=124952496][/quote]

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Schoolhike: 8:35pm On Aug 07, 2023
lavida001:

How do go about applying for a civil service jobs please

civilservicejobs*service*gov*uk

Replace * with .


Check some of my previous posts also

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Joyfuljoyful: 9:02pm On Aug 07, 2023
Good evening everyone,

My hubstar is switching from the tier 4 visa (he was the Dependent) to skilled worker visa(now as the MA). He is being asked if he is applying with his family but we are not applying with him right now until a couple of weeks from now. What should be the answer here pls?
Thanks

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Schoolhike: 9:48pm On Aug 07, 2023
Please I just need a clarification on this student visa.

1. Can a student visa (MA) become a dependent of (Skilled worker) while course is still ongoing?

2. Can a student visa holder for course starting September 2023 still apply for dependent visa for the spouse.

(Been trying to get this information for a friend but couldn’t get the actual answer, except from someone that have tried it)
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by davide470(m): 9:55pm On Aug 07, 2023
Answers in red.
Schoolhike:
Please I just need a clarification on this student visa.

Q1. Can a student visa (MA) become a dependent of (Skilled worker) while course is still ongoing?
A1. Nope. This was stopped in July. Student must be a student till the school says they are done.

Q2. Can a student visa holder for course starting September 2023 still apply for dependent visa for the spouse.
A2. Of course. Tier-4 dependant visa for non research Masters & non PhD programs ends in Jan 2024

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Schoolhike: 9:56pm On Aug 07, 2023
davide470:
Answers in red.

Wao, so quick.

Thanks so much
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Joyfuljoyful: 9:58pm On Aug 07, 2023
Someone please help answer my question.

Thank you
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by AltCtrlDel: 10:12pm On Aug 07, 2023
Schoolhike:
Anyone lives in Lincoln here?

Or could someone tell me about their experience in Lincoln.

Could be Lincolnshire county as a whole, Lincoln city, South Hykeham and North Hykeham.

Thanks.

Hi, what experience precisely do you need? Social, jobs opportunities, diversity or cost of living?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by 5gee: 10:52pm On Aug 07, 2023
lavida001:

How do go about applying for a civil service jobs please
Here: https://www.civilservicejobs.service.gov.uk/

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by 5gee: 10:53pm On Aug 07, 2023
5gee:
Please is the scheme to recruit teachers from overseas still open? If so, please kindly post information or links to where I can find more information on how to apply from outside the UK for teaching jobs. Thank you.
Please can anyone help with this? thank you.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Schoolhike: 10:59pm On Aug 07, 2023
AltCtrlDel:


Hi, what experience precisely do you need? Social, jobs opportunities, diversity or cost of living?

I will send you a dm, if you don’t mind to discuss on it further.

Thanks
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Ticha: 11:02pm On Aug 07, 2023
amanze54:
Please I need some guidance, advice and feedback...

I have two offers which I am divided on which to choose

I am through with my MSc in Data Science here and already on tier 2 courtesy of my wife who got a sponsored support work

The first offer is a prison officer with a starting salary of 28k.

The second offer is a Department of Education Financed training to be a physic teacher with a bursary of 28k for 10 month, I will be paid 19k while 9k will go to the Secondary school providing the training which is affiliated to a university. At the end I will be given QTS ( qualifications to teach) and a PGCE. Now at the end of the training, I am required to look for a teaching job.

Please I need a guidance on which to go, given the peculiarity of this country.

September is start date for both.

Do not mind any grammatical error.
Note I can't do both given the way the training is structured

Take the teaching role - you will be snatched up quickly as a Physics teacher. You can also choose to teach A levels only removing any behaviour issues in class. Even at higher secondary level, most students in your class will be there by their choice and academic ability

1. QTS is widely accepted everywhere
2. You can easily transit out of teaching after your NQT year (so max 2 years teaching) into other fields (check the bursary doesn't have a timeframe to it)
3. You will be able to work part time in your study field (school holidays, weekends should you choose to do so)
4. The teaching experience will not be lost when you transit into your data thingymajingy. Teaching experience and skills is one of the most general and versatile skill sets to have

But then I am biased as qualified teacher - PS I have used my teaching quals from the UK in 3 western countries so far and I officially stopped teaching 6 years ago.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Ticha: 11:06pm On Aug 07, 2023
amanze54:
Yeah you have a point there, I have looked that I have advantage to bargain but salaries are fixed for the role, also since I don't have other jobs offer on the table, I feel I need to take up one


Both jobs are on a government salary scale and both also have defined pensions. Teachers are employed by the LEA and follow that scale. Unless you end up in a private school.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by amanze54: 6:31am On Aug 08, 2023
Ticha:


Take the teaching role - you will be snatched up quickly as a Physics teacher. You can also choose to teach A levels only removing any behaviour issues in class. Even at higher secondary level, most students in your class will be there by their choice and academic ability

1. QTS is widely accepted everywhere
2. You can easily transit out of teaching after your NQT year (so max 2 years teaching) into other fields (check the bursary doesn't have a timeframe to it)
3. You will be able to work part time in your study field (school holidays, weekends should you choose to do so)
4. The teaching experience will not be lost when you transit into your data thingymajingy. Teaching experience and skills is one of the most general and versatile skill sets to have

But then I am biased as qualified teacher - PS I have used my teaching quals from the UK in 3 western countries so far and I officially stopped teaching 6 years ago.

@Ticha thank you so much, it is good hearing also from those who have passed through the career. Thank you again.
@Other senior men and ladies please drop your input whenever you come across this post, I have reposted it in bracket below.

(Please I need some guidance, advice and feedback...

I have two offers which I am divided on which to choose

I am through with my MSc in Data Science here and already on tier 2 courtesy of my wife who got a sponsored support work

The first offer is a prison officer with a starting salary of 28k.

The second offer is a Department of Education Financed training to be a physic teacher with a bursary of 28k for 10 month, I will be paid 19k while 9k will go to the Secondary school providing the training which is affiliated to a university. At the end I will be given QTS ( qualifications to teach) and a PGCE. Now at the end of the training, I am required to look for a teaching job.

Please I need a guidance on which to go, given the peculiarity of this country.

September is start date for both.

Do not mind any grammatical error.
Note I can't do both given the way the training is structured)
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by headofschool: 6:56am On Aug 08, 2023
Could you please give an insight about Lincolnshire as a whole (cost of living and jobs), cuz I'd wanted to move to Nottinghamshire seeing that rent might be cheaper there and jobs are kinda much there. I need update on jobs in Lincolnshire
AltCtrlDel:


Hi, what experience precisely do you need? Social, jobs opportunities, diversity or cost of living?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by seunoj: 7:38am On Aug 08, 2023
Joyfuljoyful:
Good evening everyone,

My hubstar is switching from the tier 4 visa (he was the Dependent) to skilled worker visa(now as the MA). He is being asked if he is applying with his family but we are not applying with him right now until a couple of weeks from now. What should be the answer here pls?
Thanks
No.
This doesn’t mean dependants have to apply now

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