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Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Aemmyjah(m): 1:25pm On Oct 28, 2023 |
Kingsnairaland: Learn how to summarize concise points Ur articles are too long that I don't read them |
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Dtruthspeaker: 3:23pm On Oct 28, 2023 |
paxonel: Wow! See levels of delusion because you already know that you can never join the thief in Paradise. No wonder like Satan you want to take people to hell fire. |
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Plus1234: 3:27pm On Oct 28, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker:hmmm |
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by paxonel(m): 8:44pm On Oct 28, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker:you are always being troublesome jumping into people's threads as usual to start quoting people when no one cares about you. I for one, if i see your mumu comments I don't give a damn, but you are the one always jumping to quote me. Now i have responded, you are running helter skelter like an unstable confused soul begging my question and bringing fallacious ad hominem instead of answering the question. You counter the op that one can loose his salvation simply because he is a sinner. Now the same you is changing your position that a thief who is a sinner is saved in paradise. Can't you see how contradictive you sound? Only Satan says one thing and the next time he contradicts himself with another statement. Whoever listens to you does that at his own peril. So get lost Don't ever quote me again o. No sense!
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Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Kingsnairaland(m): 3:08am On Oct 30, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: I will summarize them and pick out points that are vital once I finish the chapters you put up. But The chapters you mentioned need proper long explanation many points are made from various other Bible verses to show the full picture of its explanation if you truly want to be free from traditional teaching of self righteousness then you will read and understand. |
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Kingsnairaland(m): 3:23am On Oct 30, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: I will summarize them and pick out points that are vital once I finish the chapters you put up. |
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Kingsnairaland(m): 3:25am On Oct 30, 2023 |
Next chapter to treat is Matthew 24:13..... Coming up soon. Soon Next chapter to treat is Matthew 24:13..... Coming up soon..... |
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Aemmyjah(m): 7:31am On Oct 30, 2023 |
Kingsnairaland: I am not You're a false teacher There are several examples that God took special gifts and responsibilities he gave humans Adam and Eve Saul Judas Ananias and Sapphira You just lied about them Fooling yourself |
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Kingsnairaland(m): 9:44am On Oct 30, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: My friend relax and read the article and understand before you argue I speak in tongues and am filled with the holy spirit I know what I am talking about... God shown this principles to all those who are mature Just ask God to give you the ability to speak with tongues then you will understand what we say I will explain all those other places to mention then you should list any more new places you think We have talked about Ananias and Sapphira... In the case of Adam and eve show me where God took any thing from them. |
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Aemmyjah(m): 9:51am On Oct 30, 2023 |
Kingsnairaland: If you like speak in tongues of animals and be filled with fire Salvation is not earned but a gift from God If you are not faithful, you'll lose it Shikena |
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Maynman: 9:54am On Oct 30, 2023 |
Aemmyjah:If it can be lost, then it was never "salvation". 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Kingsnairaland(m): 10:24am On Oct 30, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Grace is unmerited favor Salvation... preservation or deliverance from harm, ruin, or loss..... It is not you to deliver your self You don't understand this things. |
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Aemmyjah(m): 10:24am On Oct 30, 2023 |
Maynman: Hypocrite You've never brought any value since you joined NL You yourself said that nothing God gives cannot be taken and cited examples Today, ur brain entered mental gymnastics and told you something else Several Jews were saved from slavery to Egypt but are they really saved when they don't have a land of their own? Their salvation would be complete when they have their own land, the Promised Land. Nearly all who left Egypt perished cos of their rebellious attitude. Later they were destroyed by Babylon, later they were destroyed by Rome. A life guard can save a child that was drowning in the beach but if that girl deliberately goes back into the beach because she loved the adventure. Will you say she was not originally saved before? If yu really have a brain, use it well God has opened the way to Salvation. Once someone starts to exercise faith and live life in harmony with God's will, he's on the right track to salvation. If he rebels, he's on his own If like a vow between a man and wife to love each other till the end. If later, one of them cheats on the other, breaking the vow and terminating the marriage. Will you say they were not really married before or the vow was not genuine... Keep seeking relevance on Nairaland We gave u a chance to educate us. You were discussing existence and Non-existence. Something that does not even make any sense to you. Everyday, I strive to be the kind of person God wants me to be. If i become impatient and give up or I live as an hypocrite or double-living, what is my reward? Atheism has left you without a sense of meaning, purpose, no reliable guide. If you like, tag me a million times, I've already exhausted my limit with you regarding the direct comment we have on this forum. Keep seeking relevance |
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Maynman: 10:26am On Oct 30, 2023 |
Aemmyjah:Yahweh slave you are of no value on Nl and outside, keep basing your miserable life on books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS. Look up definition of salvation, because your salvation depends on your governing body, doesn't mean it is same for everyone. Without the governing body in watchtower, you are condemned even Jesus can't save you, your salvation depends on those baldheads.
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Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Aemmyjah(m): 10:27am On Oct 30, 2023 |
Kingsnairaland: Salvation is not instant Salvation is not earned Even Jesus said salvation is from the Jews but they rejected their saviour and even killed him. God in turn too rejected them I also mentioned Judas Iscariot who turned betrayer. Maybe you'll say that that one is now in heaven cis God needed him |
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Maynman: 10:29am On Oct 30, 2023 |
Aemmyjah:Illiterate, that's why you will forever be a slave to the "Jews". Is Moses a "jew"? Which of your forefathers was saved from slavery in Egypt?
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Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Kingsnairaland(m): 1:47pm On Oct 30, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Focus on verse 15"16"17 Please since you can't read my explanation Read this from Bible to see the grace we talk about And the Israel jew issue as God explains it Romans 5 Peace with God Through Faith 5 Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we[a] have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. 2 Through him we have also obtained access by faith[b] into this grace in which we stand, and we[c] rejoice[d] in hope of the glory of God. 3 Not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, 4 and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, 5 and hope does not put us to shame, because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us. 6 For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. 7 For one will scarcely die for a righteous person—though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die— 8 but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God. 10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life. 11 More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. Death in Adam, Life in Christ 12 Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men[e] because all sinned— 13 for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law. 14 Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sinning was not like the transgression of Adam, who was a type of the one who was to come. 15 But the free gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one man's trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many. 16 And the free gift is not like the result of that one man's sin. For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brought justification. 17 For if, because of one man's trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ. 18 Therefore, as one trespass[f] led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness[g] leads to justification and life for all men. 19 For as by the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man's obedience the many will be made righteous. 20 Now the law came in to increase the trespass, but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more, 21 so that, as sin reigned in death, grace also might reign through righteousness leading to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord... |
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Kingsnairaland(m): 1:56pm On Oct 30, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Once I finish that Matthew part I will show you were salvation is instant. Yes salvation is not earned it is a (free) gift God in your life is also a (free) gift. |
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Aemmyjah(m): 1:57pm On Oct 30, 2023 |
Kingsnairaland: That's the benefits when someone turns from darkness into the light What if he decides to return to former works? Is there still grace for him/her? |
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Kingsnairaland(m): 2:04pm On Oct 30, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: First if that person now do as you said above God shows what he will do to the person God will... You will be flogged because you grieve the holy spirit but you will not be put in hell because you are marked forever to be saved on redemption day. Because your spirit is saved forever but your mind is what needs to be renewed so God will help you renew your mind because you fall into sin you are no longer living inside sin Because sin has no power over you.. As long as you have the spirit of Jesus that cry Abba father you will start to act like him it takes time PROVERBS 23:13-14 proves spanking! Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell (KJV). Do not hold back discipline from the child, although you strike him with the rod, he will not die.... Ephesians 4:30-32 Amplified Bible (AMP) And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God [but seek to please Him], by whom you were sealed and marked [branded as God's own] for the day of redemption [the final deliverance from the consequences of sin]. |
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Kingsnairaland(m): 2:07pm On Oct 30, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: You can't return because your spirit cries my father my father all the time You will not have joy untill you do the work God sent you your heart will desire to only do the will of God remember God changed your heart and gave you a soft heart. |
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Kingsnairaland(m): 2:12pm On Oct 30, 2023 |
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Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Aemmyjah(m): 2:54pm On Oct 30, 2023 |
Kingsnairaland: Will God force me against my will? Remember I have freewill I'm not a robot |
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:36pm On Oct 30, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.Hebrews 10:38 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Kingsnairaland(m): 3:58pm On Oct 30, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: My friend you no longer have free will when you give your life to Jesus The day you gave your life to Jesus is the day you gave him your will he lives in you Your life you gave to God your free will is inside it so every thing is inside it You told Jesus to take over your life and live through you and be your lord and savior so The day Jesus died we died with him and we paid our sin wage that is why we can't perish external punishment because we Rose with him the day he rose up You don't have a free will any more you are now a slave to righteousness. (which is a slave to Christ). |
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Aemmyjah(m): 4:56pm On Oct 30, 2023 |
Kingsnairaland: 😂 🤣 😂 🤣 😂 🤣 😂 Even a slave has freewill Anyone without freewill is a robot |
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Ken4Christ: 9:42pm On Oct 30, 2023 |
Kingsnairaland: This is a false doctrine. You don't use a few scriptures to establish a doctrine and ignore many more others that are contrary. I will give you scriptures little by little that doesn't support your eternity security. I hope these scriptures will reset your spiritual brain Evidence No 1 1st Timothy 4:1. 1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils. Who did Paul said will depart from the faith? Are they not believers? So, it's possible to depart from the faith. You are a free moral being even after getting saved. If you chose to depart from the faith for any reason, not even God can stop you. |
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Kingsnairaland(m): 10:18pm On Oct 30, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Summary of Romans 6:15-23 You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness. I put this in human terms because you are weak in your natural selves. Just as you used to offer the parts of your body in slavery to impurity and to ever-increasing wickedness, so now offer them in slavery to righteousness leading to holiness. A slave is one who has absolutely no authority over him or herself. Our will is God will just like the will of Jesus was God will ask yourself was Jesus a robot . We are in God and God is in us. |
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Kingsnairaland(m): 10:19pm On Oct 30, 2023 |
Ken4Christ:. Read the whole page before you pass judgment. . Now we are in page six. List all your scripts and I will also explain them. |
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Kingsnairaland(m): 10:20pm On Oct 30, 2023 |
Next chapter to treat is 1 Corinthians 9:27... Coming soon. |
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Kingsnairaland(m): 10:29pm On Oct 30, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: 1st Timothy 4:1..... I will explain them too list all let me see them and look at the once I have treated. |
Re: You Can't Lose Your Salvation by Ken4Christ: 8:10am On Oct 31, 2023 |
Kingsnairaland: Explain this one first. The evidences are many. Treat them one by one. |
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