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Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:20am On Nov 04, 2023
jaephoenix:

Bro, many scientists laws have undergone several revisions over time. And if Darwin's views undergo such, its not a crime. Its how science works. Everything, every law is scrutinized. Unlike religion where scrutiny or questions isn't allowed


In the developed world, why is it that teachers say that evolution is fact qnd only intelligent people accept it. Yet, it is not tested with the scientific approach?

Hypocrite!
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:22am On Nov 04, 2023
jaephoenix:

1. His religion is captured in a screenshot below
2. This is the last time I'm gonna answer this question. Maybe I'll use caps locks to make it sink into your thick brain.
EVOLUTION IS A SCIENTIFIC FACT AND HAS BEEN BACKED BY SCIENTIFIC METHODS
Henceforth if you ask me if evolution is scientific, you will only meet silence from me.
3. Other scientists proved him wrong. I wonder where you're heading with this point

This is what Wallace believed in.
He stated that something in "the unseen universe of Spirit" had interceded at least three times in history: the creation of life from inorganic matter; the introduction of consciousness in the higher animals; and the generation of the higher mental faculties in humankind. He believed that the raison d'être of the universe was the development of the human spirit.

Does this translate into an intelligent mind?
Anyway, whatever it means, his fellow scientists didn't believe it cos he couldn't prove anything


1. Darwin is not a Christian... You know what they did to him after he brought forth is theory. Stop fooling

2. What methods? Assumptions na method?

3. There was something Wallace said. Not thia
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:29am On Nov 04, 2023
jaephoenix:

1. Based on scientific research. You can check them out
2. On what?
3. Arthropod eyes aren't the same as human eyes. I don't know what you're on about

1. There's no proven one

2....
3. What about the lines on the evolutionary tree that connects you and them?
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:32am On Nov 04, 2023
jaephoenix:

1. My parents don't need to regulate my growth actively. Its all coded in my genes. So they are indirectly responsible for my growth. For example, if short stature is encoded in my DNA, I'll get to be short no matter what I do. Even if my parents are long dead, their shortness DNA would be in me and be responsible for coding proteins for growth, so my growth hormones would be short-lived
2. No, my penis aren't by accident. All came up courtesy of DNA
3. Do you have ample evidence civilization didn’t start in Africa? Please do share


1. Too much grammar na blunder. What did your parents CREATE... In same vein, I 'created' my blood and urine shey?

2. DNA by chaos shey?

3.i said civilization began in Africa. Foolish people took it to say the first humans evolved there
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:33am On Nov 04, 2023
jaephoenix:

Yes, the tree regulated it via their DNA, unconsciously.
Please what context do u use create?


How can a human regulate DNA to bring force a well formed human, unconsciously?
Sense is far from you
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:34am On Nov 04, 2023
jaephoenix:

If you cannot send the link, forget it

If you cannot read my post, forget it
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:35am On Nov 04, 2023
jaephoenix:

I have answered this question.
We don't know how DNAs came up.
If you do, please educate me with evidence. Thank you

You don't know but you teach people that the basic form of life or life as a whole began by blind chance. Fact indeed
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:38am On Nov 04, 2023
jaephoenix:

Lemme help you outta your misery.
I said iphones can be evolved. And not iPhones evolved(even if I said the later, I'm still correct theoretically)
IPhones can be evolved because their manufacturers(who are humans) change their designs, hardware, software etc, over time. That is the evolution


Iphones are non living compared to humans where our phenotype and genotype and others can be influenced by chemical, biological and Environmental factors.

You mean humans and every living for also had a manufacturer designer?
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:39am On Nov 04, 2023
jaephoenix:

It simply shows how the human mind work. The human mind(especially the illiterate mind) fixes god into the gaps of knowledge. They fixed it when there was nil knowledge about rain, thunder etc. Now we know how all those happened, you have fixed it into the origin of humankind. If science fixes that, it would be the biggest knowledge jump ever
So no, the diversity of religion only points to ignorance


grin
Olodo
You expected them to conclude that everything in nature came by accident?
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:40am On Nov 04, 2023
budaatum:

Religion is culturally dependent. And cultures can be tribes or location dependent. It's why we Yorubas worshipped Shango and Ogun instead of Ikenga and Ekwensu, and don't have the Bori religion and worship Isoki.


And no one said it has. Cultural backgrounds included religions and language, especially the written ones, and pretty much influenced each other.

Languages tended to ride in on the back of religion. You speak English because the god book you were given is in English, and some speak Arabic because the god book they read was in Arabic. Like programming, really. You believe what you're fed.

The English you read today was made to evolve into what it is by the introduction of the Authorised Version, which standardised the language and effectively programmed the Britons and all those they fed it to.


On the highlighted?
Which one did you worship?

Now you're shifting posts to languages
Re: Does God Exist? by cornelboy(f): 8:52am On Nov 04, 2023
Sirmwill:

Funnily funny
Lol 😂😂
Re: Does God Exist? by budaatum: 3:21pm On Nov 04, 2023
Aemmyjah:

On the highlighted?
Which one did you worship?

Now you're shifting posts to languages

I do not worship. I study instead so I may know.

Language and religion are connected to culture. You speak English because the English brought you God. If you'd been culturised by Arabic speakers you'd likely worship the Arab god.

It's not shifting, Aemmyjah. I'm connecting the dots of my vast knowledge to explain things to you, not so you can believe me, but so you can go ask and knock and seek and learn and know for yourself what is true or not.

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Re: Does God Exist? by Emusan(m): 3:57pm On Nov 04, 2023
jaephoenix:

The video didn’t say conception to birth is a miracle. It just explains about the complexity involved in it.

You already started your lie from beginning.

Alexander Tsiaras says it's Miracles, Divinity and beyond any Human comprehension.

Stop lying.
Re: Does God Exist? by Image123(m): 4:00pm On Nov 04, 2023
jaephoenix:

Any evidence of the bolded?
By the way, just so you know, religion is gradually dying off. A simple research would help you. The atheist populations are ever increasing worldwide . Even religious strongholds are accepting scientific theories like evolution, Big Bang etc

Lolz, it's like pouring water into a basket, yet i will do it yet again for benefit of doubt.
The Bible talks about the spirit functioning for intuition, communion, and conscience. It also shows the souls functioning in the faculties of will, intellect and emotion. Practically every human being has these functions, meaning or showing that they possess a soul and spirit, according to the scriptures. As long as humans continue to have these faculties, they will always look up to God or god. It's more important than oxygen for the human being. undecided
Scriptural definition of religion: Pure and undefiled religion before God the Father is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself unstained from the world. If you look forward to that dying off, good for you. It's not going away.
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 4:26pm On Nov 04, 2023
budaatum:


I do not worship. I study instead so I may know.

Language and religion are connected to culture. You speak English because the English brought you God. If you'd been culturised by Arabic speakers you'd likely worship the Arab god.

It's not shifting, Aemmyjah. I'm connecting the dots of my vast knowledge to explain things to you, not so you can believe me, but so you can go ask and knock and seek and learn and know for yourself what is true or not.



You don't know anything
You can't teach anything
You digress

From
Scientific approach
Human eye
Technology
God evolving to Jesus
Square roots


All these to show that God doesn't exist?
Go teach fellow atheists

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Re: Does God Exist? by budaatum: 5:25pm On Nov 04, 2023
Aemmyjah:


All these to show that God doesn't exist?

This just shows how little attention you've been paying.

I do not intend to "show" whether gods exist or not, Aemmyjah. To start with you do not have the eyes to see, and nor do you have the skills and the abilities required to look. Or are you not aware that is what you confess when you claim you believe?

I'm just showing you how to learn to use your own God given heart and soul and mind and being to ask and knock and seek so that you may learn and know. And many others have shown you what is knowable and how to ask and knock and seek and know.

Many will come and see and read what is chaotically written, and learn what is knowable too or believe like you do. Then out of the chaos of blind ignorance will knowledge emerge to open eyes so we all evolve.

I'm predicting. Long will you live to see it fulfilled.

Re: Does God Exist? by HellVictorinho6(m): 7:03pm On Nov 04, 2023
budaatum:


This just shows how little attention you've been paying.

I do not intend to "show" whether gods exist or not, Aemmyjah. To start with you do not have the eyes to see, and nor do you have the skills and the abilities required to look. Or are you not aware that is what you confess when you claim you believe?

I'm just showing you how to learn to use your own God given heart and soul and mind and being to ask and knock and seek so that you may learn and know. And many others have shown you what is knowable and how to ask and knock and seek and know.

Many will come and see and read what is chaotically written, and learn what is knowable too or believe like you do. Then out of the chaos of blind ignorance will knowledge emerge to open eyes so we all evolve.

I'm predicting. Long will you live to see it fulfilled.

you believe to some extent too

u show it by action at least

there must be how to experience or know alongside how to believe in ur case cuz to exist cant be controlled.

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Re: Does God Exist? by budaatum: 7:17pm On Nov 04, 2023
HellVictorinho6:


you believe to some extent too

u show it by action at least

there must be how to experience or know alongside how to believe in ur case cuz to exist cant be controlled.

Whatever I may believe is indicative of my lack of knowledge. Take them as not certain. Things I am ignorant about.

Take yourself for instance. I believe that over time you will stop being the hopeless pest you have been in the past. I do not know this for certain but I choose to believe it because I know that most learn and evolve into better versions over time. That's not to say you necessarily will. Just that recent observations of you have shown you are improving, and I am willing to believe you will continue to improve as time goes by until you prove my beliefs about you to be true or false, by when I expect to know.

Well done, by the way. For improving.
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 8:54pm On Nov 04, 2023
budaatum:


This just shows how little attention you've been paying.

I do not intend to "show" whether gods exist or not, Aemmyjah. To start with you do not have the eyes to see, and nor do you have the skills and the abilities required to look. Or are you not aware that is what you confess when you claim you believe?

I'm just showing you how to learn to use your own God given heart and soul and mind and being to ask and knock and seek so that you may learn and know. And many others have shown you what is knowable and how to ask and knock and seek and know.

Many will come and see and read what is chaotically written, and learn what is knowable too or believe like you do. Then out of the chaos of blind ignorance will knowledge emerge to open eyes so we all evolve.

I'm predicting. Long will you live to see it fulfilled.

If common sense is lacking and has prevented you from having q good conclusion
It's your own problem

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Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 9:47pm On Nov 04, 2023
Image123:


Lolz, it's like pouring water into a basket, yet i will do it yet again for benefit of doubt.
The Bible talks about the spirit functioning for intuition, communion, and conscience. It also shows the souls functioning in the faculties of will, intellect and emotion. Practically every human being has these functions, meaning or showing that they possess a soul and spirit, according to the scriptures. As long as humans continue to have these faculties, they will always look up to God or god. It's more important than oxygen for the human being. undecided
Scriptural definition of religion: Pure and undefiled religion before God the Father is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself unstained from the world. If you look forward to that dying off, good for you. It's not going away.
Lolz, now you're quoting your Bible, right?
Lemme quote my own Pastafarian book.
All humans are made of noodles. And the bad ones would boil in the eternal pan
So you see, the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the Supreme Being that controls all, including your Yahweh

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Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 9:48pm On Nov 04, 2023
Emusan:


You already started your lie from beginning.

Alexander Tsiaras says it's Miracles, Divinity and beyond any Human comprehension.

Stop lying.
Please can you point out where he said its divinity? Thank you
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 9:50pm On Nov 04, 2023
cornelboy:

Did you learn how to eat from the university?
If eating is what we need in this world, humanity would be in the stone ages. Knowledge is power and knowledge is from the University

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Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 9:51pm On Nov 04, 2023
cornelboy:

Do you agree there's a designer?
Quit dodging. I have answered this question. Answer mine
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 9:58pm On Nov 04, 2023
cornelboy:

We are in no position to say anything about that. We can only accept things as it is.
How can an artwork question the artist?
Or a robot criticize it maker? It'd definitely be courting death.
You see why your GB doesnt want you to go to universities? Cos of knowledge. Lemme burst your bubble.
The human body workings are fraught with errors, right from birth. These errors result from formation of organs . Some errors are not fatal, examples are patent ductus arteriosus(or hole-in-the-heart babies), polydactyl(extra fingers), polycystic kidneys etc. Some babies succumb to these errors? Some errors too are fatal, and the mother may miscarry the pregnancy if the fetal death occurs in utero. Some die as soon as they are born like anencephaly(babies with no head), cardiac agenesis(no heart) etc.
So with all these errors, can you say this wonderful designer is all knowing? Please answer this and don't dodge it like you dodged others

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Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 9:59pm On Nov 04, 2023
cornelboy:

@ the bolded
I'm glad we found a common ground. There must be a mastermind behind everything. Saying things come by chance is completely dumb and illogical.
Lol. You just picked one comment and ran with it. Kudos cheesy
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 10:06pm On Nov 04, 2023
cornelboy:

One logical guess we can make is that an intelligent being made and coded the DNA even if we don't know the origin.
Have you been reading my comments or you're a bot?
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 10:06pm On Nov 04, 2023
cornelboy:

Lol what you have studied that I can easily access online.

Lol how did you know that the earth was chaotic billions of years ago.

The books written by these so called people are mostly work of fiction, guess works and science myths. No tested and provable evidence to back them up.
For example, it said in one theory or whatever that homo sapiens evolved their thumbs lol. I'd never believe that cause it's dumb. I'd rather believe that humans had their thumbs all along.
Yet you believe the Bible which is a poor work of fiction. Lol cheesy
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 10:07pm On Nov 04, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


You are just saying this after the argument is over?
Which argument is over? I have been telling you this exact thing but you're too dense to read and understand
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 10:08pm On Nov 04, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


They obviously don't think so.
Well, ignorance is a big disease then. You agree
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 10:09pm On Nov 04, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Clearly the child used ABC and 123 to help him expand his communications skills and accountability issues which he immediately used and kept using everyday of his life.

But see how you can't show even a single instance where a child has used square root to solve any of his natural living issues. So, Invalid argument.



Obviously, like Phy, Chem, Bio and Further Maths, it should be during Secondary School.
Understanding analogies is a big challenge for you. And you say you're a lawyer? shocked
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 10:14pm On Nov 04, 2023
Aemmyjah:



In the developed world, why is it that teachers say that evolution is fact qnd only intelligent people accept it. Yet, it is not tested with the scientific approach?

Hypocrite!
Lol. This guy.
Who said evolution isn't tested? There are various organs in the body the remained vestigial because we evolved. Examples are the appendix vermiformis, pineal body, coccyx etc. All these organs were useful when humans had a different diet and ecosystem to what we have now, but since we aren't eating those stuffs and living in those environments, those organs are redundant. You can Google these organs yourself. I can write pages on the phenomena backing evolution. And I have given you literature about them, but you still refuse to read them, but instead ask idioticcc questions here
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 10:16pm On Nov 04, 2023
Aemmyjah:



1. Darwin is not a Christian... You know what they did to him after he brought forth is theory. Stop fooling

2. What methods? Assumptions na method?

3. There was something Wallace said. Not thia
1. So the screenshot is a lie, right?
2. I have given you several literature, many examples backing evolution. Its not my fault you refuse to read and cure yourself of this ignorance
3. So what did he say? Show me

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