Allthelight:
was gaza occupied before the war ?

The entirety of Israel is the land of the Palestinians.
You don't seem to know much about what you are commenting on.

WrriterNig:
⚡Aerial view of Pro-Palestine rally in Cape Town, South Africa.

Massive.
Thank you South Africa.

Stoplying:

Go and claim the house of your neighbor and witness the love.
Let me take your house from you then you can practice what you preach.

I have been a silent reader of this thread. And I have been doing some extensive reading and debates so as to have a full grasp facts in that region. I don't know if you care to provide answers, I have some questions I would like to ask.

I saw a video and have read reports from Palestine where Palestinians claim that their land was occupied and gruesomely annexed by Israel. Meanwhile, the Israelite have shown in history that they settled and well established by founding a city or kingdom in that region in the historical past. They added that it was Emperor Hadrian who actually changed the city of Judea to Syria Palestine, meaning it was historic Jewish city.

Adding to the background, Israel has argued that Hadrian had wanted to erase the Jewish identity. (I do not actually agree with this stand). And went on to claim that the name Palestine is derived from Philistine of the ancient world. However, they argued that the Arab Palestinian natives are not direct descendants of Philistines so the were simply laying claim to that land as a Arab dominating agenda of the region.

While I do not want to deploy the bible on historic discussion, the old testament has shown that philistines settled in Gaza. However, historical documents from Herotodus to Ovid to Josephus has shown that Palestinian doesn't have a specific geographical boundaries. It may cover the western sides of Mesopotamia, connecting what Egypt to what is known today as Lebanon.

So this prompt question, how did the philistines history got wiped off?

How and when did Israel established themselves and cities and religion in Palestine?

How did Israel occupy Palestine when it has been established that they settled in this area millenia ago?

Who are the actual owner of the region today?

Allthelight:
why should they support palestine millitary ?

Some of you dont even understand a thing

Don't reply if you cannot counter properly...

If Arab can't support their brother, they should get out...

Allthelight:
why should they support palestine millitary ?

Some of you dont even understand a thing

Palestine Military

Seems you're the one who doesn't understand a thing here.

1. European Jews are Europeans whose religion is Judaism.
2. Israel of today was created in 1948 by European Jews whom the British had settled in Palestine
3. You confuse religious texts with history, Israelites no longer exist, and if they ever existed then their decendants are the Palestinians. European Jews are more likely to decend from the Romans than from biblical Jews.

FOLYKAZE:


I have been a silent reader of this thread. And I have been doing some extensive reading and debates so as to have a full grasp facts in that region. I don't know if you care to provide answers, I have some questions I would like to ask.

I saw a video and have read reports from Palestine where Palestinians claim that their land was occupied and gruesomely annexed by Israel. Meanwhile, the Israelite have shown in history that they settled and well established by founding a city or kingdom in that region in the historical past. They added that it was Emperor Hadrian who actually changed the city of Judea to Syria Palestine, meaning it was historic Jewish city.

Adding to the background, Israel has argued that Hadrian had wanted to erase the Jewish identity. (I do not actually agree with this stand). And went on to claim that the name Palestine is derived from Philistine of the ancient world. However, they argued that the Arab Palestinian natives are not direct descendants of Philistines so the were simply laying claim to that land as a Arab dominating agenda of the region.

While I do not want to deploy the bible on historic discussion, the old testament has shown that philistines settled in Gaza. However, historical documents from Herotodus to Ovid to Josephus has shown that Palestinian doesn't have a specific geographical boundaries. It may cover the western sides of Mesopotamia, connecting what Egypt to what is known today as Lebanon.

So this prompt question, how did the philistines history got wiped off?

How and when did Israel established themselves and cities and religion in Palestine?

How did Israel occupy Palestine when it has been established that they settled in this area millenia ago?

Who are the actual owner of the region today?

WrriterNig:
⚡Trump campaign ad: "If you spill a drop of American blood, we will spill a gallon of yours."

says a guy whom has never fought a day in his life

Stoplying:
1. European Jews are Europeans whose religion is Judaism.
2. Israel of today was created in 1948 by European Jews whom the British had settled in Palestine
3. You confuse religious texts with history, Israelites no longer exist, and if they ever existed then their decendants are the Palestinians. European Jews are more likely to decend from the Romans than from biblical Jews.

Spot on.

I believe if a series of DNA test can be carried out to compare the Palestinians, the modern date jew and the ancient jew(using archeological findings). I won't be surprised if the Palestinians are more related to the ancient jews than then the modern day jew.

Stoplying:
1. European Jews are Europeans whose religion is Judaism.
2. Israel of today was created in 1948 by European Jews whom the British had settled in Palestine
3. You confuse religious texts with history, Israelites no longer exist, and if they ever existed then their decendants are the Palestinians. European Jews are more likely to decend from the Romans than from biblical Jews.

This is an unnecessary clap back and do not address the question.

1. One can argue that Palestinians are Arabs because they do not have DNA similarities with the Philistines. Why would they lay claim to Palestine?

2. Jerusalem, Galilee, Judea and many of the Israel settlements predate 1948. Was the second temple built in Europe too?

3. I for one do not buy facts from religious text. However, we can never throw the entire texts in construction of facts. I understand Jew nation isn't peculiar about ethnicity but religious standings. However, DNA similarly between modern Israel and people of the Levant cannot be dismissed. This is biological fact

Fash20:


Spot on.

I believe if a series of DNA test can be carried out to compare the Palestinians, the modern date jew and the ancient jew(using archeological findings). I won't be surprised if the Palestinians are more related to the ancient jews than then the modern day jew.

Let me give you a hint:
Indigenous Jews do not have blue eyes and blonde hair. Indigenous Jews are genetically related to modern-day pure breed Arabs, and definitely not to the Europeans, as we see in modern-day Israeli population.

Fash20:


Spot on.

I believe if a series of DNA test can be carried out to compare the Palestinians, the modern date jew and the ancient jew(using archeological findings). I won't be surprised if the Palestinians are more related to the ancient jews than then the modern day jew.

The palestines do not relate with Philistine who are the aborigines. They are Arabs

FOLYKAZE:


This is an unnecessary clap back and do not address the question.

1. One can argue that Palestinians are Arabs because they do not have DNA similarities with the Philistines. Why would they lay claim to Palestine?

2. Jerusalem, Galilee, Judea and many of the Israel settlements predate 1948. Was the second temple built in Europe too?

3. I for one do not buy facts from religious text. However, we can never throw the entire texts in construction of facts. I understand Jew nation isn't peculiar about ethnicity but religious standings. However, DNA similarly between modern Israel and people of the Levant cannot be dismissed. This is biological fact

1. You keep talking about biblical figures while also claiming to not "buy facts from religious texts". Philistine is a biblical people, not a people which currently exists.

2. I fail to get your point, the temple is not a European Jew if that is what you are getting at.

3. DNA tests have actually proven that European Jews are .... EUROPEANS

4. You know nothing

Stoplying:


1. You keep talking about biblical figures while also claiming to not "buy facts from religious texts". Philistine is a biblical people, not a people which currently exists.

2. I fail to get your point, the temple is not a European Jew if that is what you are getting at.

3. DNA tests have actually proven that European Jews are .... EUROPEANS

4. You know nothing

1. The philistines were not just biblical figures. Herotodus, Josephus, and several historians in the ancient past wrote about them. The excavation from Egypt shows Philistine were sea farer from Greece. They fought wth Egyptian Ramesses III who settled his captive in the southern Canaan. The land Palestine belongs to the philistine. This is history not theology.

2. The temple is a Jewish structure. The cities is their establishment. And DNA information have justified the relationship of the Jewish settlement today with ancient Levant.

3. Well you can submit your facts.. There is no need dragging this too far

4. Help the ignorant me.

FOLYKAZE:


I have been a silent reader of this thread. And I have been doing some extensive reading and debates so as to have a full grasp facts in that region. I don't know if you care to provide answers, I have some questions I would like to ask.

I saw a video and have read reports from Palestine where Palestinians claim that their land was occupied and gruesomely annexed by Israel. Meanwhile, the Israelite have shown in history that they settled and well established by founding a city or kingdom in that region in the historical past. They added that it was Emperor Hadrian who actually changed the city of Judea to Syria Palestine, meaning it was historic Jewish city.

Adding to the background, Israel has argued that Hadrian had wanted to erase the Jewish identity. (I do not actually agree with this stand). And went on to claim that the name Palestine is derived from Philistine of the ancient world. However, they argued that the Arab Palestinian natives are not direct descendants of Philistines so the were simply laying claim to that land as a Arab dominating agenda of the region.

While I do not want to deploy the bible on historic discussion, the old testament has shown that philistines settled in Gaza. However, historical documents from Herotodus to Ovid to Josephus has shown that Palestinian doesn't have a specific geographical boundaries. It may cover the western sides of Mesopotamia, connecting what Egypt to what is known today as Lebanon.

So this prompt question, how did the philistines history got wiped off?

How and when did Israel established themselves and cities and religion in Palestine?

How did Israel occupy Palestine when it has been established that they settled in this area millenia ago?

Who are the actual owner of the region today?

You're not a silent reader of this thread, you've actually make several comments on this thread using different monikers... We don't entertain foolishness trying to sound sophisticated...

It's either you read history upside down or you don't know what you're saying...

Before the first set of Israelites, there were Canaanites, Philistines and others on that land. These current set of Jew beg Palestinians to accomodate them after WWII when Hitler was ready to erase the Jews from earth.. The Palestinians were deceived.. The ship conveying the Jews to Palestine did not write "we're the owner of the land, we're coming back home" instead it was " The Germans destroy our families, our names- Don't destroy our hope"...

The above is not the language of a owner but of a beggar who's looking for help.. These current set of Israelites begged Palestine to accommodate them, you cannot rewrite that..

Don't try to justify Israel terrorists act, that you've once have a state on a land doesn't justify Israel current genocidal act against the people of Palestine... Countries and people abound today that currently occupy lands that's not theirs historically, there are many people and countries that occupy lands that's different from their historical lands which they've once governed as a state...

That you once govern a land 2000 years ago and lost it doesn't mean you can come today to lay claim to it as your land...
Did Israelites not meet people on the land before they occupy it 2000 years ago??

The whole world came to the aid of Jews when Hitler was ready to kill all of them as he believes they're the problem of the world.. Now same Jews are trying to eliminate Palestine because they currently enjoy the support of some of the major powers.. Israel should be reminded that it won't be forever, they'll one day regret all of their actions and genocide they commited with the support of Anglo-American empire..

They've always been bitch to empires... Roman, Greek, Persia, Ottoman, British and others, now it's America turn... It'll soon pass... 💯

Even majority of these current set of Jews are European thieves including Britain, Russia, France, Germany and others...

From America to Oceania, people don't really know that Europe is the major problem of the world...

FOLYKAZE:


1. The philistines were not just biblical figures. Herotodus, Josephus, and several historians in the ancient past wrote about them. The excavation from Egypt shows Philistine were sea farer from Greece. The fought wth Egyptian Ramesses III who settled his captive in the southern Levant. This is history not theology

2. The temple is a Jewish structure. The cities is their establishment. And DNA information have justified the relationship of the Jewish settlement today with ancient Levant.

3. Well you can submit your facts.. There is no need dragging this too far

4. Help the ignorant me.

1. So you want to do DNA tests today with people who no longer exist ? That seems to be the level of your logic.
2. Once again, you confuse religion and history.
Also you fail to understand that current Muslim people in the middle East decend from polytheists, Jews and Christians. (When Islam was invented, people converted by force or willfully...)
3. https://www.livescience.com/40247-ashkenazi-jews-have-european-genes.html
4. I'm not paid to teach you and I'm not your relative, so I have no interest in indulging you. And I have already wasted enough time, good bye.

Allthelight:
I wonder what they gained by hating their neighbours.

After freedom the first thing they did was to purchase weapons. After more than 10yrs these weapons did not stop the death.

After more than 10yrs the cements for infrastructures that were used to build tunnels didnot stop the invasion.

same as $10billion apartheid wall did not stop Hamas infiltration

Mumu you think shey you wise?

Stoplying:
1. European Jews are Europeans whose religion is Judaism.
2. Israel of today was created in 1948 by European Jews whom the British had settled in Palestine
3. You confuse religious texts with history, Israelites no longer exist, and if they ever existed then their decendants are the Palestinians. European Jews are more likely to decend from the Romans than from biblical Jews.

Thank you for this...

This people are European that practise Judaism.. If the ancients Israelites ever existed, their descendants are the Palestinians, that's just the truth...

Fash20:


Spot on.

I believe if a series of DNA test can be carried out to compare the Palestinians, the modern date jew and the ancient jew(using archeological findings). I won't be surprised if the Palestinians are more related to the ancient jews than then the modern day jew.

Yes they are and that's without a shred of doubt.

The real Jews and Arabs are semites with same ethnocultural origins.

Those who dominate today's fake Jewish state are Ashkenazis who have striking similarities with white Caucasian people.

🤡 🇺🇸 🤡

BentizilL0:

You're not a silent reader of this thread, you've actually make several comments on this thread using different monikers... We don't entertain foolishness trying to sound sophisticated...

It's either you read history upside down or you don't know what you're saying...

Before the first set of Israelites, there were Canaanites, Philistines and others on that land. These current set of Jew beg Palestinians to accomodate them after WWII when Hitler was ready to erase the Jews from earth.. The Palestinians were deceived.. The ship conveying the Jews to Palestine did not write "we're the owner of the land, we're coming back home" instead it was " The Germans destroy our families, our names- Don't destroy our hope"...

The above is not the language of a owner but of a beggar who's looking for help.. These current set of Israelites begged Palestine to accommodate them, you cannot rewrite that..

Don't try to justify Israel terrorists act, that you've once have a state on a land doesn't justify Israel current genocidal act against the people of Palestine... Countries and people abound today that currently occupy lands that's not theirs historically, there are many people and countries that occupy lands that's different from their historical lands which they've once governed as a state...

That you once govern a land 2000 years ago and lost it doesn't mean you can come today to lay claim to it as your land...
Did Israelites not meet people on the land before they occupy it 2000 years ago??

The whole world came to the aid of Jews when Hitler was ready to kill all of them as he believes they're the problem of the world.. Now same Jews are trying to eliminate Palestine because they currently enjoy the support of some of the major powers.. Israel should be reminded that it won't be forever, they'll one day regret all of their actions and genocide they commited with the support of Anglo-American empire..

They've always been bitch to empires... Roman, Greek, Persia, Ottoman, British and others, now it's America turn... It'll soon pass... 💯

Even majority of these current set of Jews are European thieves including Britain, Russia, France, Germany and others...

From America to Oceania, people don't really know that Europe is the major problem of the world...

Several accounts like seriously?

I simply asked a question and made an address about the history of that region. I am not in on this hot air.

This is not a discussion about moral standing regarding the escalations in the that region
It is more about who is the rightful owner of the land. If you can help with that please do. And if not abeg pack well

OkpaNsukkaisBae:



Arabic unity in the mud. Massive win for US & IDF.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Can't stop laughing. That's why I keep laughing at some guys here calling for boycott of every Israeli products.

WrriterNig:
⚡During Russia's Iskander strikes on Kiev today air alarms only went off after the missiles had hit

Better late than never 🤪

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