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Re: With The Current Rate Of Japa, Is Poverty Rate Exaggerated In Nigeria? by SeriouslySense(m): 1:10pm On Nov 26, 2023
Thank God for that
gigfx:
I sold my house and everything to Japa and I am not regretting it. Thanks to my wife that have good foresight. I know how much I pay on school fees alone in Nigeria while here school is free for my kids, I only pay for food £12 per week.

While in Nigeria before the month end like this, I am already looking for who to borrow money from to fuel car to go to work.

Within 6 months I know how much I don safe here in the UK despite working part time oo because of the kids, If I wan build another house for Nigeria I can do it but I won't.

For you to know how terrible things are in Nigeria, if I tell my 5 years old daughter that we are going back to Nigeria. She will start begging me that daddy no oo am not going I like it here.

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Re: With The Current Rate Of Japa, Is Poverty Rate Exaggerated In Nigeria? by SeriouslySense(m): 1:11pm On Nov 26, 2023
truth
ceejayluv:

The economy is sinking And people's standard of living is dropping by the Day. That is a poverty trend.
Years back, someone earning 200k a month could buy a new fridge, New Gen and still have enough to feed the family with that month's income. Now, that salary can't even buy an average Gen And feeding Will easily take More than half of that pay. We're humans, if there's anything we're good at, it's having the foresight to escape potential starvation.

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Re: With The Current Rate Of Japa, Is Poverty Rate Exaggerated In Nigeria? by coputa(m): 1:12pm On Nov 26, 2023
BreconHills:


You raise a point that leads to the question what is poverty? For many people poverty is the inability to live well. But this is not the true definition of poverty. Poverty is a state where you are unable to have the very basics of life. A roof however small, meals that sustain motion and energy however tasteless and education for children or yourself no matter how basic .
If we apply this definition, the poverty numbers will reduce sharply.
80 percent of Nigerians cannot afford the basics of life vide; housing, clothing and food, Nigerians live in shanties,they virtually feed from the bin, Nigeria is the dumping ground for used clothes.How else can someone define poverty

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Re: With The Current Rate Of Japa, Is Poverty Rate Exaggerated In Nigeria? by jojothaiv(m): 1:13pm On Nov 26, 2023
If almost everybody can afford the cost of Japa that doesn't come cheap....

I'm glad you use the words 'if' and 'almost' that means you're even certain of the numbers of people leaving and their financial conditions too.

Last I check, statistics don't reveal everything, there are communities and inner cities in this wonderful country that poverty walks majestically around their corners and people there don't understand what it means to japa but the media will find a way of blowing things out of proportion just to drive their own narrative...

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Re: With The Current Rate Of Japa, Is Poverty Rate Exaggerated In Nigeria? by drmikeadams(m): 1:19pm On Nov 26, 2023
nony43:
All I can say is if you voted and supported Buhari and Ebola Tinubu and planned to Japaa your Visa will will be denied in the mighty name of Jesus. Stay and enjoy the sheer prosperity of Nigeria.


All through Buhari’s 8 years BAT never criticised any of his wrong economic policies that landed us to be the poverty capital of the world because of his personal interests. Now Buhari is out some of his Cabinet members are saying Buhari messed up a lot of things and made Nigeria Bankrupt. Una just de wake up.


If them manage escape visa denial, the Canadian,us and Russia cold winter will kill the person join grin

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Re: With The Current Rate Of Japa, Is Poverty Rate Exaggerated In Nigeria? by franchasofficia: 1:24pm On Nov 26, 2023
ceejayluv:

So you mean we're more populated that the USA?
Yes if proper census is carried out

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Re: With The Current Rate Of Japa, Is Poverty Rate Exaggerated In Nigeria? by BreconHills(m): 1:28pm On Nov 26, 2023
coputa:
80 percent of Nigerians cannot afford the basics of life vide; housing, clothing and food, Nigerians live in shanties,they virtually feed from the bin, Nigeria is the dumping ground for used clothes.How else can someone define poverty

This is not true. There is a lot of poverty - massive amounts but it is not 80%. World Bank forecast for 2023 is 37%

Re: With The Current Rate Of Japa, Is Poverty Rate Exaggerated In Nigeria? by Nobody: 1:28pm On Nov 26, 2023
oluwaseyi0:
People actually have money especially in southern Nigeria, I mean average Nigerians

I discovered this during the MMM saga, they may not be millionaire but they have something

Forget what you see online

Even most people on nairaland if you kidnap them it will shock you that 2 million minimum will come out in 1 month or so
Oga calm down, na how kidnapping take start oh.

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Re: With The Current Rate Of Japa, Is Poverty Rate Exaggerated In Nigeria? by flokii: 1:29pm On Nov 26, 2023
The Japa thing is more prevalent in the South where there are many middle level income households who ordinarily can afford decent life.

If you go from Kaduna up to Zaria to Funtua up till Niger republic border in Katsina, you'll realize it's a different ball game in those areas. Northerners don't leave the country in droves like Southerners do, this is what I have observed over time here in the North.

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Re: With The Current Rate Of Japa, Is Poverty Rate Exaggerated In Nigeria? by iHateFraudsters: 1:33pm On Nov 26, 2023
Villa12:
business in which country?

And how was the landed properties acquired?
Re: With The Current Rate Of Japa, Is Poverty Rate Exaggerated In Nigeria? by Nobody: 1:34pm On Nov 26, 2023
Princewill1:
One major problem in Nigerian is the Herd Mentality syndrome.

Once you start up any trend in Nigeria that promises to bring in fortune. The rest of the population will blindly and quickly jump into it without applying due diligence. Check Pos business, Content creation, MMM etc other African countries don't behave this way.

Those that will lose on this trend are the ones who have something meaningful doing in Nigeria and those who sold solid properties to Japa.

Hardship is everywhere, it's only dvmb people that doesn't know this.
So? People are still making bank from the POS and content creation, the market validate the business. The person that start the business is a billionaire already and earning more than them but still they are also earning something than nothing.

Which business idea you done start self wey you make am dey alright?

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Re: With The Current Rate Of Japa, Is Poverty Rate Exaggerated In Nigeria? by bjtinz: 1:35pm On Nov 26, 2023
BreconHills:


You raise a point that leads to the question what is poverty? For many people poverty is the inability to live well. But this is not the true definition of poverty. Poverty is a state where you are unable to have the very basics of life. A roof however small, meals that sustain motion and energy however tasteless and education for children or yourself no matter how basic .
If we apply this definition, the poverty numbers will reduce sharply.

That may be true, but the sake of international comparisons, a standard of at least $2/day, which is about N2k/day or N60k/ month. Considering our min wage is still half that amount may provide some insight as to why our figures are so high.

So truth is a lot of persons who may not consider themselves poor are actually so, going by international standards.

But again looking at it critically, can 60k/month give one a decent life, considering the current realities??

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Re: With The Current Rate Of Japa, Is Poverty Rate Exaggerated In Nigeria? by Nobody: 1:36pm On Nov 26, 2023
Trueigbo:
People sell their investments to travel while those abroad are sending money to invest in Nigeria.

The paradox of life
There is noting paradoxical here, different priorities and different times; it's that simple.

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Re: With The Current Rate Of Japa, Is Poverty Rate Exaggerated In Nigeria? by gaskiyamagana: 1:38pm On Nov 26, 2023
nony43:
All I can say is if you voted and supported Buhari and Ebola Tinubu and planned to Japaa your Visa will will be denied in the mighty name of Jesus. Stay and enjoy the sheer prosperity of Nigeria.


All through Buhari’s 8 years BAT never criticised any of his wrong economic policies that landed us to be the poverty capital of the world because of his personal interests. Now Buhari is out some of his Cabinet members are saying Buhari messed up a lot of things and made Nigeria Bankrupt. Una just de wake up.
Although I am for TINUBU, l love your 2nd paragraph comment. Do you think you will not do the same if you are TINUBU and you are eyeing that position?
To your 1st paragraph, in the name of Amodia, Sango, Ogun and Jesus (of yours), my japa Visa to Canada will be obtained before yours, Ameen, Amen, Aasee.

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Re: With The Current Rate Of Japa, Is Poverty Rate Exaggerated In Nigeria? by Villa12(m): 1:38pm On Nov 26, 2023
iHateFraudsters:


And how was the landed properties acquired?
inheritance and sold to the diasporans
Re: With The Current Rate Of Japa, Is Poverty Rate Exaggerated In Nigeria? by Alaigbo(m): 1:39pm On Nov 26, 2023
This is a lie
BlackhatMentor:
It's not.

One whole large family usually comes together then donate money to push someone out to bring the bag
Re: With The Current Rate Of Japa, Is Poverty Rate Exaggerated In Nigeria? by Villa12(m): 1:39pm On Nov 26, 2023
gaskiyamagana:

Although I am for TINUBU, l love your 2nd paragraph comment. Do you think you will not do the same if you are TINUBU and you are eyeing that position?
To your 1st paragraph, in the name of Amodia, Sango, Ogun and Jesus (of yours), my japa Visa to Canada will be obtained before yours, Ameen, Amen, Aasee.
Lol

You're for Tinubu and you want to Japa? What a life grin

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Re: With The Current Rate Of Japa, Is Poverty Rate Exaggerated In Nigeria? by Alaigbo(m): 1:40pm On Nov 26, 2023
How is that different from those travelling previously ?

Helpfromabove1:
Some or many na gbese, loan , fake POF and many illegal traveling rules

Re: With The Current Rate Of Japa, Is Poverty Rate Exaggerated In Nigeria? by Babaken(m): 1:40pm On Nov 26, 2023
youngrichnigga:
So many government sponsored posts and posters on NL these days; I wonder if the OP knows that so many people took him interest loans that they're paying back from diaspora just to leave the country and most likely be able to give their children and next generations a break in life.
If you still have a bit of your morals, you'll know that virtually every sector of Nigeria is riddled with multidimensional corruption etc which renders hardwork unrecognized; every teen now only wants to be a celebrity and hardwork is not encouraged.
This is my opinion undecided undecided undecided
you have said it all.
Re: With The Current Rate Of Japa, Is Poverty Rate Exaggerated In Nigeria? by AfahaAbia(m): 1:45pm On Nov 26, 2023
Seriously I really like it as young Nigerians run away abroad. It gives me more opportunities to make money here in Nigeria. The population is just too much!! You won't believe how many companies have been head hunting me to work for them since last year.... There is less competition now in the corporate world as alot of experienced folks have left the country. This is a stark contrast to when I graduated in 2012, up until 2019 it was so difficult getting a job from top organisations due to alot of experienced professionals available. Now it's a different ball game because most of those guys have all left.

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Re: With The Current Rate Of Japa, Is Poverty Rate Exaggerated In Nigeria? by Nobody: 1:46pm On Nov 26, 2023
Blitzking:
pos business was a gold mine...content creation na wetin dey rain now with your high end smart phone just enter street dey do all sort of things u Don turn content creator or dey ur room or palour dey talk about dick....bresss assess...gbolla etc u go dey get 2k view or dey flip bottles with a platter of meat dey video am post..
Thank you for this, I don't understand the unnecessary belittling of hustle that is paying by Nigerians. Since you feel sai we can't create something outstanding, omoh make you run am naw, nobody hold you.
Re: With The Current Rate Of Japa, Is Poverty Rate Exaggerated In Nigeria? by Villa12(m): 1:47pm On Nov 26, 2023
gigfx:
I sold my house and everything to Japa and I am not regretting it. Thanks to my wife that have good foresight. I know how much I pay on school fees alone in Nigeria while here school is free for my kids, I only pay for food £12 per week.

While in Nigeria before the month end like this, I am already looking for who to borrow money from to fuel car to go to work.

Within 6 months I know how much I don safe here in the UK despite working part time oo because of the kids, If I wan build another house for Nigeria I can do it but I won't.

For you to know how terrible things are in Nigeria, if I tell my 5 years old daughter that we are going back to Nigeria. She will start begging me that daddy no oo am not going I like it here.
Most average Nigerians cannot even afford to feed
Re: With The Current Rate Of Japa, Is Poverty Rate Exaggerated In Nigeria? by NaijaCover(m): 1:51pm On Nov 26, 2023
oluwaseyi0:
People actually have money especially in southern Nigeria, I mean average Nigerians

I discovered this during the MMM saga, they may not be millionaire but they have something

Forget what you see online

Even most people on nairaland if you kidnap them it will shock you that 2 million minimum will come out in 1 month or so

Bad News Blogger Is Here

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Re: With The Current Rate Of Japa, Is Poverty Rate Exaggerated In Nigeria? by Blitzking: 1:56pm On Nov 26, 2023
Lukepeter:

Thank you for this, I don't understand the unnecessary belittling of hustle that is paying by Nigerians. Since you feel sai we can't create something outstanding, omoh make you run am naw, nobody hold you.
we live in the attention economy a subset of the information age so do whatever brings food on the table..as govt no gree run the economy well...man must survive just against the herd mentality..but really does it matter the sky is enough for all to fly..at the end of the day its not what u sell is how u relate with people or the perception ppl have of you.
Re: With The Current Rate Of Japa, Is Poverty Rate Exaggerated In Nigeria? by BreconHills(m): 1:56pm On Nov 26, 2023
bjtinz:


That may be true, but the sake of international comparisons, a standard of at least $2/day, which is about N2/day or N60k/ month. Considering our min wage is still half that amount may provide some insight as to why our figures are so high.

So truth is a lot of persons who may not consider themselves poor are actually so, going by international standards.

Agreed. The world bank estimates the number of people living in poverty in Nigeria at 37% which does seem low to me. But we have a large informal sector and our family ties as tired as they are still sometimes protect family members in the worst of situations.

But again looking at it critically, can 60k/month give one a decent life, considering the current realities??


Re: With The Current Rate Of Japa, Is Poverty Rate Exaggerated In Nigeria? by Jamie1000: 2:00pm On Nov 26, 2023
SaintUlot:
With the rate at which Nigerians are leaving Nigeria, you will think with N50k you can japa from that country. Every Tom, Dick and Harry have left, the remaining ones are just waiting to buy their flight ticket.

I doubt if we still have up to 1 million people left in Nigeria at this time. So where is that multidimensional poverty statistics coming from? If almost everybody can afford the cost of Japa that doesn't come cheap. This makes me to come to the conclusion that, Nigerians might not have money in their bank account, but majority have tangible assets that can be easily converted to cash if the need arises.

Where did you get your statistics from? Nigerians are very much here ..choping life
Re: With The Current Rate Of Japa, Is Poverty Rate Exaggerated In Nigeria? by gaskiyamagana: 2:04pm On Nov 26, 2023
Villa12:
Lol

You're for Tinubu and you want to Japa? What a life grin
When Man U no do well again, make one no commot dey for Arsenal?
Re: With The Current Rate Of Japa, Is Poverty Rate Exaggerated In Nigeria? by gigfx: 2:05pm On Nov 26, 2023
Villa12:
Most average Nigerians cannot even afford to feed

It is getting close to that for me too, left to me I don't want to travel abroad. I like Nigeria die. The fear of not knowing what you will meet abroad self they worry me then.

But I don't have to think about my own alone. I can manage anyhow, but the children na the priority. I don't need to stay Nigeria till when my children school will start sending reminder upon reminder for school fees even though am not paying house rent oo. I still feel all that Emiofiole policies.

Cardoso too don start him own now. I just dey imagine if I still dey Nigeria how I go survive all this them policy. And u will think all their party member are enjoying not until last week one of them call me to come borrow him money. Shame even they him voice self. But I got to pity him tho.

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Re: With The Current Rate Of Japa, Is Poverty Rate Exaggerated In Nigeria? by Villa12(m): 2:10pm On Nov 26, 2023
gaskiyamagana:

When Man U no do well again, make one no commot dey for Arsenal?
you're right. I pray God grant you your heart desires 🙏

But come to think of it, some of this Tinubu supporters are still supporting him, some with empty stomach, some jobless, some with meagre pay as salary and they keep supporting him

I don't understand, are they really normal?
Re: With The Current Rate Of Japa, Is Poverty Rate Exaggerated In Nigeria? by blesdman(m): 2:12pm On Nov 26, 2023
SaintUlot:
With the rate at which Nigerians are leaving Nigeria, you will think with N50k you can japa from that country. Every Tom, Dick and Harry have left, the remaining ones are just waiting to buy their flight ticket.

I doubt if we still have up to 1 million people left in Nigeria at this time. So where is that multidimensional poverty statistics coming from? If almost everybody can afford the cost of Japa that doesn't come cheap. This makes me to come to the conclusion that, Nigerians might not have money in their bank account, but majority have tangible assets that can be easily converted to cash if the need arises.
Nigerians are hypocrites and pretenders. Take them serious at ur own risk.
Re: With The Current Rate Of Japa, Is Poverty Rate Exaggerated In Nigeria? by iHateFraudsters: 2:12pm On Nov 26, 2023
Villa12:
inheritance and sold to the diasporans

And the person that he inherited it from, how did he acquire it?

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Re: With The Current Rate Of Japa, Is Poverty Rate Exaggerated In Nigeria? by Faposky95: 2:13pm On Nov 26, 2023
SaintUlot:
With the rate at which Nigerians are leaving Nigeria, you will think with N50k you can japa from that country. Every Tom, Dick and Harry have left, the remaining ones are just waiting to buy their flight ticket.

I doubt if we still have up to 1 million people left in Nigeria at this time. So where is that multidimensional poverty statistics coming from? If almost everybody can afford the cost of Japa that doesn't come cheap. This makes me to come to the conclusion that, Nigerians might not have money in their bank account, but majority have tangible assets that can be easily converted to cash if the need arises.


The prodigal son was living in austere conditions so he complained......he was however from a rich background.
....if for say na Naija, he for shout.......!!!!!

We have been duped of our heritage by those we have trusted all along....the main reason for our rantings.
If the mere good was sustained among major it's people, the country should be in the best 20 nations right now.

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