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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 8:39am On Nov 30, 2023
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budaatum:


Show us where he said this so we can stop calling you liar.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 8:46am On Nov 30, 2023
basilico:


Is that not where fraud comes in..If you automatically register using say Driving Licence then that means non citizens get on the register. How often are the registers cleaned?
When it comes to mail in votes, there are all possibilities of non citizens getting a ballot

This is just false. You don’t automatically register because you went to the DMV or else it would only be people with drivers license thatcan vote and then what would be the purpose of another voterID. Only citizens are in the voter registers and that information is gotten from citizen information sources like births and naturalisation records. Non citizens don't get on those rolls. If a non citizen is not on the roll who is going to mail them a ballot?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 8:55am On Nov 30, 2023
https://justthenews.com/accountability/political-ethics/bank-raised-red-flags-about-5-million-loan-chinese-firm-hunter

Don't investigate Joe Biden, instead investigate Trump for receiving Bank loans and paying back with interest.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 10:23am On Nov 30, 2023
LordReed:


This is just false. You don’t automatically register because you went to the DMV or else it would only be people with drivers license thatcan vote and then what would be the purpose of another voterID. Only citizens are in the voter registers and that information is gotten from citizen information sources like births and naturalisation records. Non citizens don't get on those rolls. If a non citizen is not on the roll who is going to mail them a ballot?

Tell me this is false.Plus a whole lot other states..You should be arguing for safeguards in this , because it can be exploited

Again, Why not just voter ID, one day voting, no mail in voting like in EU unless by special circumstances and no Dominion machines. And why would democrats and RINOs never accept that.If you remember or care to some judges ruled that mail in ballots must be counted days after election day.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 10:47am On Nov 30, 2023
basilico:


Tell me this is false.Plus a whole lot other states..You should be arguing for safeguards in this , because it can be exploited

Again, Why not just voter ID, one day voting, no mail in voting like in EU unless by special circumstances and no Dominion machines. And why would democrats and RINOs never accept that.If you remember or care to some judges ruled that mail in ballots must be counted days after election day.

Because you are only skewing the information to fit your narrative.

I can bet you the only reason Rebups are opposed to mail in ballots is because they have seen it favours Democrats more. If it had been favouring Repubs more they'd have been calling for an expansion of mail in ballots.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 10:57am On Nov 30, 2023
LordReed:


Because you are only skewing the information to fit your narrative.

I can bet you the only reason Rebups are opposed to mail in ballots is because they have seen it favours Democrats more. If it had been favouring Repubs more they'd have been calling for an expansion of mail in ballots.

You said no DMV registration exists.I have proved you wrong
Mail in voters favors democrats. Gee why is that?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 11:03am On Nov 30, 2023
Black lives matter Rhode island co-founder endorses Trump.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 11:38am On Nov 30, 2023
basilico:
Another Trump case about to bite the dust like all will if there is honesty.
Letitia James fraud case. She is suing for fraud in a case where there is not a single victim..
Star witness Michael Cohen testified that he was never instructed by Trump to inflate his assets. That should have been case. closed but the judge twisted h upis interpretation to declare he has a remedy ( for what aggrieved party?)
Yesterday a bank executive who personally approved Trump's loans had this to say.
Banks do their due diligence They don't follow the valuations by the. clients.
Banks loaned him money after doing their due diligence, then he repaid the loans with interest. Letitia Kes gets butthurt , wants to fine him $250m and ban Trump family from doing business in Big Apple.
Example. Who can give the value of Chrstian Ronaldo brand accurately?

OMG. This judge engoron is a nut case. Bank says they were happy lending Trump hundreds of millions , which were repaid. Prosecution says the loan applications had lies. Who is the victim?

My direct boss, Michele Fassiola (he's Italian) would like to call you and your Dad to thank you for being such great clients and for all the business we have been doing together," Vrablic wrote to Ivanka Trump in one 2014 email. "Your family is in the Top 10 revenue generating names of Asset and Wealth Management now and he is thrilled with how it's grown.

Vrablic described continuing efforts to expand the bank's business with the Trumps until he was elected president, when the bank decided to pull back.(To avoid conflict of interest)


What does that judge say?

"that the mere fact that lenders were happy doesn’t mean that the statute wasn’t violated"

Note that the Bank says it's a difference in opinion and did not disburse loans on what was presented..Banks have estate valuation experts.
Trump’s defense attorney argued that Deutsche Bank conducted its own due diligence and made their own decision to loan Trump money.

“The bank conducted its own due diligence. The bank had no problem with a $2 billion or a $3 billion difference,” Trump’s attorney Christopher Kise said.

Kise also argued that the German bank wasn’t harmed because it “didn’t change what it did based on what President Trump submitted.”


Implies that one makes a loan applications. Sends it to Judge Engeron first for scrutiny.

Eiffel Towers cost today is estimated at 70M Euros. How much is it worth.
A whooping 300B Euros to France though it generates around Euro 80m a year.
Letitia James and her fuzzy logic calculations of the Trump brand is laughable if not downright insane.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 1:02pm On Nov 30, 2023
basilico:


You said no DMV registration exists.I have proved you wrong
Mail in voters favors democrats. Gee why is that?

I will grant you that since I didn't know automatic registration covered the DMV but you are saying it as though DMV visits are the only way to get on the election rolls. And even then you still need to be a citizen so a foreigner seeking temporary drivers license is not going on the roll. No illegals are getting on the rolls DMV or no DMV.

Because Democrats tend to be more progressive in their outlook. Your lord and saviour Trump used mail in ballots so it obviously has its merits but because it doesn't favour y'all you want it to cease.

BTW you have gone again and claimed that mail in ballots are not used in Europe meanwhile it's used in European countries, it's used in Canada and in the UK.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 1:06pm On Nov 30, 2023
President Biden has been levelling criminal trump in the polls but the media is deaf and dumb when Democrats are outperforming. Idiots.

But just one poll showing criminal defendant trump leading, we won't have rest. Cultists will be everywhere getting an erection.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 1:13pm On Nov 30, 2023
basilico:


You said no DMV registration exists.I have proved you wrong
Mail in voters favors democrats. Gee why is that?

Republicans do vote by mail. The problem here is that there's a fringe part of the base that's been cooked in conspiracy theories, that they think vote by mail is like pizzagate so they bleed voters. The well educated Democrats with a wider world view see nothing wrong in voting by mail.

If your foundation is Christian nationalism, voting makes no sense. Democracy means nothing but authoritarianism like a king sanctioned by "God" is. You'd be an idiot to say this is not the major and underlying factor in the scheme of things.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 1:15pm On Nov 30, 2023
basilico:


OMG. This judge engoron is a nut case. Bank says they were happy lending Trump hundreds of millions , which were repaid. Prosecution says the loan applications had lies. Who is the victim?

My direct boss, Michele Fassiola (he's Italian) would like to call you and your Dad to thank you for being such great clients and for all the business we have been doing together," Vrablic wrote to Ivanka Trump in one 2014 email. "Your family is in the Top 10 revenue generating names of Asset and Wealth Management now and he is thrilled with how it's grown.

Vrablic described continuing efforts to expand the bank's business with the Trumps until he was elected president, when the bank decided to pull back.(To avoid conflict of interest)


What does that judge say?

"that the mere fact that lenders were happy doesn’t mean that the statute wasn’t violated"

Note that the Bank says it's a difference in opinion and did not disburse loans on what was presented..Banks have estate valuation experts.
Trump’s defense attorney argued that Deutsche Bank conducted its own due diligence and made their own decision to loan Trump money.

“The bank conducted its own due diligence. The bank had no problem with a $2 billion or a $3 billion difference,” Trump’s attorney Christopher Kise said.

Kise also argued that the German bank wasn’t harmed because it “didn’t change what it did based on what President Trump submitted.”


Implies that one makes a loan applications. Sends it to Judge Engeron first for scrutiny.

Eiffel Towers cost today is estimated at 70M Euros. How much is it worth.
A whooping 300B Euros to France though it generates around Euro 80m a year.
Letitia James and her fuzzy logic calculations of the Trump brand is laughable if not downright insane.



I think this is what gives you erection when you need it.
Your criminal overlord just got caught moving $40m, violating the court order. Seems he's also broke. His criminal Enterprise is going to disbanded completely. What's the point of this massive trash you posting?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 1:17pm On Nov 30, 2023
basilico:
https://justthenews.com/accountability/political-ethics/bank-raised-red-flags-about-5-million-loan-chinese-firm-hunter

Don't investigate Joe Biden, instead investigate Trump for receiving Bank loans and paying back with interest.




Cultist. The Court had already decided that the criminal trump organization was involved in fraud. This trial is to determine how much criminal trump will be liable for.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:49pm On Nov 30, 2023
basilico:
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Where Cohen said, you dummy, since we already know that only lies come out of dump.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 3:16pm On Nov 30, 2023
LordReed:


I will grant you that since I didn't know automatic registration covered the DMV but you are saying it as though DMV visits are the only way to get on the election rolls. And even then you still need to be a citizen so a foreigner seeking temporary drivers license is not going on the roll. No illegals are getting on the rolls DMV or no DMV.

Because Democrats tend to be more progressive in their outlook. Your lord and saviour Trump used mail in ballots so it obviously has its merits but because it doesn't favour y'all you want it to cease.

BTW you have gone again and claimed that mail in ballots are not used in Europe meanwhile it's used in European countries, it's used in Canada and in the UK.

Automatic registration via DMV is highly prone to abuse. I think we can agree on that. If you are an overseer of elections and you want to run for a post later , nothing prevents fraudulent registration of ineligible voters on a small scale. Can be replicated wholesale nationally.

As for Europe you only mentioned UK.Most countries DON'T permit and those that allow it do it under regulated special considerations. As opposed to say Wisconsin? where every voter recieved a ballot mail long before election day. Some two bedroom house recieved 64 ballots, some malls and open fields also recieved ballots via mail.
Here is Europe mail in votes situation

https://www.idea.int/news/special-voting-arrangements-svas-europe-country-postal-early-mobile-and-proxy-arrangements
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 3:17pm On Nov 30, 2023
budaatum:


Where Cohen said, you dummy, since we already know that only lies come out of dump.

Bemeruca answered you concisely.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 3:17pm On Nov 30, 2023
Obrigardo:


Cultist. The Court had already decided that the criminal trump organization was involved in fraud. This trial is to determine how much criminal trump will be liable for.

What law did he break?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 3:31pm On Nov 30, 2023
basilico:


Bemeruca answered you concisely.

I guess you'd expect I'd read what stupid idiot writes because I sometimes read parts of yours to see how stupid you can be.

I don't stoop into his particular ignorant stupidity.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 3:49pm On Nov 30, 2023
basilico:


Automatic registration via DMV is highly prone to abuse. I think we can agree on that. If you are an overseer of elections and you want to run for a post later , nothing prevents fraudulent registration of ineligible voters on a small scale. Can be replicated wholesale nationally.

As for Europe you only mentioned UK.Most countries DON'T permit and those that allow it do it under regulated special considerations. As opposed to say Wisconsin? where every voter recieved a ballot mail long before election day. Some two bedroom house recieved 64 ballots, some malls and open fields also recieved ballots via mail.
Here is Europe mail in votes situation

https://www.idea.int/news/special-voting-arrangements-svas-europe-country-postal-early-mobile-and-proxy-arrangements

Show evidence that it has been abused.

I mentioned European countries AND the UK separately.

Show evidence that a 2bedroom house recived 64 ballots and that fields and malls received ballots via mail.

Here are some European countries vote by mail situation. Other European countries not mentioned in the screenshots are Hungary, Spain, Italy, Norway, Switzerland.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 4:03pm On Nov 30, 2023
LordReed:


Show evidence that it has been abused.

I mentioned European countries AND the UK separately.

Show evidence that a 2bedroom house recived 64 ballots and that fields and malls received ballots via mail.

Here are some European countries vote by mail situation. Other European countries not mentioned in the screenshots are Hungary, Spain, Italy, Norway, Switzerland.

You only showed 4 countries
I will get the links showing abuse of mail in ballots

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 4:04pm On Nov 30, 2023
Gugu postal vote UK.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 4:57pm On Nov 30, 2023
basilico:


You only showed 4 countries
I will get the links showing abuse of mail in ballots

Where did you get this from?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 5:02pm On Nov 30, 2023
LordReed:


Where did you get this from?

The link I provided ..
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 5:04pm On Nov 30, 2023
budaatum:
Gugu postal vote UK.

UK allows postal voting but not mass mailing to every voter. Special cases .
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 5:14pm On Nov 30, 2023
Lordreed, I've edited post with this Maricopa county.


The property at 2058 E. Wildermuth Ave Tempe was a vacant lot prior to and at the time of the election.
• The former resident moved from the property in 2019.
• The City of Tempe issued a demolition permit on January 13, 2020.
• The mobile home park was sold to an investment/development LLC on February 19, 2020.
• The County mailed a ballot to the vacant lot address on October 23, 2020.
• The County recorded a ballot as received from the vacant lot address on November 1, 2020.
• The County recorded a vote for the 2020 General Election from the vacant lot address.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 6:32pm On Nov 30, 2023
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-latest-government-report-15-million-mail-ballots-in-2020-that-are-unaccounted-for

A fraud database makntoned here.
https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud


I would like this assertion repudiated
81-15= 66

President Joe Biden carried Arizona by 10,457 votes, yet Maricopa County alone reportedly sent 110,092 ballots to outdated or wrong addresses. The same scenario happened in Nevada, which Biden carried by 33,596 votes; Clark County sent 93,279 ballots that, for all intents and purposes, disappeared into the ether and are "unaccounted" for, meaning election officials have no idea what happened to them.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 6:47pm On Nov 30, 2023
budaatum:


I guess you'd expect I'd read what stupid idiot writes because I sometimes read parts of yours to see how stupid you can be.

I don't stoop into his particular ignorant stupidity.

Pervrrts like you don't like facts
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:55pm On Nov 30, 2023
basilico:


UK allows postal voting but not mass mailing to every voter. Special cases .

Nothing special about it.

Every one at the address they are registered at for rates plus anyone who lives in their household is sent a voters registration form on which they can indicate that they wish to vote by post and would be let.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 7:28pm On Nov 30, 2023
I guess by Benvalino and Basilico's (I'll call them Beavis and Butthead from now on) standard the Pope is a Jew-Hater as well.

https://www.politico.eu/article/israel-hamas-conflict-terrorism-pope-francis-middle-east/

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 7:31pm On Nov 30, 2023
budaatum:


Nothing special about it.

Every one at the address they are registered at for rates plus anyone who lives in their household is sent a voters registration form on which they can indicate that they wish to vote by post and would be let.

I opened up this thread and thought I had skipped back a few pages. How in 2023, after all the Republican led recounts found nothing is a dude who has never left Nigeria, still talking about fraud in the US and voting systems and mailing systems in the UK and US? What nuttery.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 7:43pm On Nov 30, 2023
IjeBos:


I opened up this thread and thought I had skipped back a few pages. How in 2023, after all the Republican led recounts found nothing is a dude who has never left Nigeria, still talking about fraud in the US and voting systems and mailing systems in the UK and US? What nuttery.

Guess dump can sell stupid anywhere.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 8:25pm On Nov 30, 2023
basilico:


You only showed 4 countries
I will get the links showing abuse of mail in ballots

Even though I suspect the information provided in that link, it still shows several European countries that use vote by mail.

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