Spy360:

My friend stats are not misleading to those who know how they work. If they were then why are they kept. Opta has been keeping stats of players for many years and making good money.

Saying stats are misleading is like saying your bank statements are misleading. EFCC go just carry you go where you don't know.

Stats can be misleading because they don't tell the whole story. Today's football is different from the 90s. If stats are conclusive, there won't be need for scouts to travel miles just to watch their players of interest. The eye test is very very important.

mostob:
Gbam! You just summarized everything. Using this your context, Giroud is the striker A here while VPersie is striker B. I'm glad you can see how a flash in the pan performance can hide a lot of inconsistencies.

I saw that nonsense example he gave and I just gave up.

But then, I don rest for the matter. Thank goodness Dave.P no use agenda talk say Giroud dey on par with Van Persie

Spy360:

As per the bolded you think it's about feelings? It's you that feels when you open your mouth whaooo like Roman Reigns without having evidence. Football is mathematics. You may 'feel' that Man United and Chelsea have better players than Aston Villa, but look at the league table, Aston Villa has more points than Man United and Chelsea. It's not about feelings it is about evidence.

Football is all about feelings that's why it's called an Entertainment!!
All those shouts, and emotions, what do you think they are?? Mathematics?
No make me laugh

The good thing I love about football is the process. And everyone who knows me well here (at least according to my posts) knows that I look at performance over results. The season is long, but one thing I can bet on is that as long as Man u play what they play and Chelsea play what they play so far, Chelsea will topple Man u at the end of the season . You can take that to the bank.

You can keep on looking at Stats and ignore what your very eyes sees and enjoy.

I wonder why you dey watch ball when you suppose deh watch am for livescores and opta. That would have been better cos you don't need "feelings".

Jodera:


Football is all about feelings that's why it's called an Entertainment!!
All those shouts, and emotions, what do you think they are?? Mathematics?
No make me laugh

The good thing I love about football is the process. And everyone who knows me well here (at least according to my posts) knows that I look at performance over results. The season is long, but one thing I can bet on is that as long as Man u play what they play and Chelsea play what they play so far, Chelsea will topple Man u at the end of the season . You can take that to the bank.

You can keep on looking at Stats and ignore what your very eyes sees and enjoy.

I wonder why you dey watch ball when you suppose deh watch am for livescores and opta. That would have been better cos you don't need "feelings".

This post is full of so much bullshiit to make a mountain. Any way let me just take it as you trying to be funny or finding a back door to escape analytical annihilation.

Jodi my dear friend you must not win every argument o. Nna m just accept or L in this one. Daalu

mostob:
Stats can be misleading because they don't tell the whole story. Today's football is different from the 90s. If stats are conclusive, there won't be need for scouts to travel miles just to watch their players of interest. The eye test is very very important.

Young man I am not going to argue with you about the validity of statistics because it's a waste of time. There are people who spent years getting a degree in stats and there are people who are professors of statistics and data analysis. So if you think stats are misleading then good for you. Happy New Year in Advance.

mostob:
Gbam! You just summarized everything. Using this your context, Giroud is the striker A here while VPersie is striker B. I'm glad you can see how a flash in the pan performance can hide a lot of inconsistencies.

Lol.

Bros na you make Giroud A and RVP B? no kee me with laugh abeg.

Giroud hardly scores hatricks that's why Jodera thinks he is average. I have provided their G/G and yet we are still arguing about nothing. For context, Giroud has won more titles and accolades than RvP. But let's leave that story for another day. Lol 😂

mostob:
So you're saying we lost because Havertz didn't play? Just say it bro. FYI, you didn't support this Havertz more than me. However, I'm not too blinded to know when to call out a poor performance.

We lost because we couldn't break a low block. Havertz would have maneuvered the spaces to create clear chances for goal. That's what a raumdeuter does.

Don't worry, Havertz will play today you will see difference.

Spy360:

We lost because we couldn't break a low block. Havertz would have maneuvered the spaces to create clear chances for goal. That's what a raumdeuter does.

Don't worry, Havertz will play today you will see difference.

Delulu.!!!
How many clear cut chances have Havertz created?

Lol.
You're beginning to sound like a troll at this point

Spy360:

This post is full of so much bullshiit to make a mountain. Any way let me just take it as you trying to be funny or finding a back door to escape analytical annihilation.

Jodi my dear friend you must not win every argument o. Nna m just accept or L in this one. Daalu

Lol...
Take L say Giroud and Van Persie dey on par?

Na only you fit talk that Kain nonsense!!!

Spy360:

We lost because we couldn't break a low block. Havertz would have maneuvered the spaces to create clear chances for goal. That's what a raumdeuter does.

Don't worry, Havertz will play today you will see difference.

We lost because we didn't take our chances. No be today we Don dey break down teams with low block. Havertz could have given us height up top no doubt. He would have at least scored from those headers Jesus was missing.

Spy360:

Lol.

Bros na you make Giroud A and RVP B? no kee me with laugh abeg.

Giroud hardly scores hatricks that's why Jodera thinks he is average. I have provided their G/G and yet we are still arguing about nothing. For context, Giroud has won more titles and accolades than RvP. But let's leave that story for another day. Lol

You don dey turn amala o spy. So it is not based on stats again. You have brought the number of hattrick and titles. You dey Facebook? I would want you to sort other people's opinion concerning this matter.

As for striker A vs Striker B, that sample already dented your stance on this stat matter. You were just not aware.

Spy360:

Young man I am not going to argue with you about the validity of statistics because it's a waste of time. There are people who spent years getting a degree in stats and there are people who are professors of statistics and data analysis. So if you think stats are misleading then good for you. Happy New Year in Advance.

Ever heard of margin of error? You need to sit down with these Professors and table this matter before them. BTW, I'm not disputing the validity of stats, I said they're not conclusive.

Jodera:
I saw that nonsense example he gave and I just gave up.

But then, I don rest for the matter. Thank goodness Dave.P no use agenda talk say Giroud dey on par with Van Persie

Be like I go comot hand o. I don tire sef.
Happy Sunday

mostob:
Be like I go comot hand o. I don tire sef.
Happy Sunday

Lol...e dey tiring aswear but this one is the height of it. If to say na rival fan dey talk say someone like Giroud(assuming he played his peak for Man u) is better than our striker Van Persie. I for give am face.

But an arsenal fan saying Giroud is on par with Van Persie?


Happy Sunday bro. Hopefully we'll win our match today.

Omorr, we really need sign correct striker this January oo

Kiwior replaces injured Zinchenko.

Nketiah starts.

Havertz comes in for Trossard.

Tomiyasu makes the bench.


#coyg

mostob:
Kiwior replaces injured Zinchenko.

Nketiah starts.

Havertz comes in for Trossard.

Tomiyasu makes the bench.


#coyg

Tomi is back... Thank goodness

Jesus dropped. The missed chances finally came back to bite. Hopefully, Nketiah takes his chance and Jesus head will reset well with the benching

Kiwior... Fingers crossed.
Seems Zinny is injured

This useless man still start martinelli
Shame no let that olofo zinny make bench he form injury

mostob:
Kiwior replaces injured Zinchenko.

Nketiah starts.

Havertz comes in for Trossard.

Tomiyasu makes the bench.


#coyg

I am fine with this lineup I’m seeing

We need all 3 points and a clean sheet.
#COYG

Jodera:

Tomi is back... Thank goodness

Jesus dropped. The missed chances finally came back to bite. Hopefully, Nketiah takes his chance and Jesus head will reset well with the benching

Kiwior... Fingers crossed.
Seems Zinny is injured

Yeah...he has a little issue with his calf.

Jodera:
Well, like I've always maintained (which was my bullet point to Spy) that Giroud was very very average at arsenal. I don't care nor does it concerns me what he does outside arsenal cos I'm neither a Giroud Stan nor do I support those clubs.

Spy brought stats and says he's on par with Van Persie and Auba and your tone initially seemed to agree so.

like i said, for Gunners record, let Giroud vy with Yakubu for in box performance, etc He's nowhere any level of performance vs RVP. The hate fueled by Gunner at rvp cos of his man u switch is not going to change this irrefutable fact. We're doing asif we were contestants all those years when we were Terrible and 4th was our trophy. Imagine no epl on rvp profile, na still gunners go use am say he's nothing.

Apparently Gabriel Jesus is dropped today due to him not following Arteta’s instructions on positional play. Mainly "staying" between the posts during final third pressure. #arsenalfanaticsnews

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Spy360:

You hate stats because they tell you the truth that you don't want to hear. Like Jodera when people carry preconceived notions they close their eyes to reality. I have used their performance records to show that Van Persie, Adebayor and Giroud are all on the same level for Arsenal yet you doubt.

We should be bold enough to accept fact when it is laid before us.

So you watched Arsenal at that time and tell Me those three mentioned are all same for Arsenal?
Same stats that’ll make Nicolas Jackson look world class?

Stats isn’t enough to know a classy player abeg

Jodera:


Like person go look stats finish say Van Persie and Giroud dey the same category for arsenal shirt.

I kukuma no blame Spy sha

I don’t take those that use stats to judge a player serious, stats that can make a bum look world class?

The only information I take serious in that stat is that number of goals and assist, but the rest isn’t enough jaweee..

I like Popi “Eye test” mode of judging a player

It's like someone is finally heedin complaints

Shooting and crosses. Despite all this, Nketiah is still minus 1. We really need way above 9. Smh. The fact that fulham is bossing this game says it all. Their attack is more threatening and they're deliberately trying to create 1v1 situations with our fullbacks because they know the vulnerability on these two.i also notice Arteta shouting from touchline wants these guys to up the tempo of the game. They're annoying and tooo slow for me. Can't we just take advantage of space and get goal threats? All the counters we had this 1st half, all ended in pass back.🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️

Ian Wright blames Saka for the goal and feels he should've done better in holding the ball more.
I personally feel Kiwior saw Jimenez since yesterday and yet didn't do enough to make an extra leap to prevent that squared ball.

Why then drop Zinchenko for this guy sef?

Why do we utilize the zonal marking in defending corner kicks, especially against teams with length? I mean we suffered same thing last week.

This shit sucks

Oh boy! Saka come on man!

Last 5games, we've been giving stupid goals via dispossession.. 7goals!! See Saka??

Can't watch this game again. Tueh!