MaxInDHouse:


Jesus came in the name of someone! John 17:6; 26

Mention the name of that person!

MaxInDHouse:


God created only one creature alone and after that all other works He delegated to these creatures.
For instance God created honey through bees yet we don't praise those flying creatures for what they did rather we praise God who created bees!

Westerhoffe:



You still not making sense… can't you see?
Have I ever denied the FATHER in my comments?
NO.

But you have been denying and avoiding to call JESUS CHRIST who He is all along!

Is He GOD or not?
For the Bible said in:

“In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.”
— Genesis 1:1 (KJV)

And the Bible said in:

John 1 (KJV)
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¹ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
² The same was in the beginning with God.
³ All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

So, is JESUS CHRIST GOD or not?

Or are you saying the Bible made a mistake?[/b]

Westerhoffe:

[b]Where in the Bible did GOD the FATHER say, "I created JESUS CHRIST?"[/b]I

MaxInDHouse:


Father is not a name nah!

What is the name He called Himself?

MaxInDHouse:


The FIRSTBORN of all CREATIONS is enough!

He was also CREATED that's what made him the firstborn nah!

Westerhoffe:



Does that mean GOD is incapable of doing anything on His own?

You saying JESUS CHRIST was a creation of the FATHER, OK…
Clear these up:

Man was made from dust:
“And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.”
— Genesis 2:7 (KJV)

Angels and ministers, spirits and fire:
“Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:”
— Psalms 104:4 (KJV)

What did GOD use in creating JESUS CHRIST if He was also a creation?

“Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:”
— Colossians 1:15 (KJV)
Did the above state JESUS CHRIST was the 'first creation'?

Westerhoffe:



Who gave it to us to address GOD as the FATHER?
I will hallow the name of the FATHER and not mention His name anyhow without respect as you do. For this is what JESUS CHRIST taught in:

“After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.”
— Matthew 6:9 (KJV)

So if you do not recognize who I call the FATHER, that would be your problem.

Now, back to the topic you keep trying to run away from but which I won't let you:

Is He GOD or not?
For the Bible said in:

“In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.”
— Genesis 1:1 (KJV)

And the Bible said in:

John 1 (KJV)
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¹ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
² The same was in the beginning with God.
³ All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

So, is JESUS CHRIST GOD or not?

Or are you saying the Bible made a mistake?

Westerhoffe:

You're not breaking free of this. I know you know if you admit to the truth, it will ridicule your doctrines about JESUS CHRIST. But you've got to explain this:

MaxInDHouse:


God can create honey without using bees nah!

Westerhoffe:

But has there been any honey which is the real honey but not from bees?

MaxInDHouse:


Jesus is addressing his disciples not everyone so if a Christian is asked to mention the name of his God it makes no sense saying "Father"

Jesus told his disciples that his father is their father and his God is their God {John 20:17} so the father and God Jesus worshiped is the one his disciples are to worship not Jesus!

MaxInDHouse:


That's the import of Colossians 1:15

Westerhoffe:


Still denying John 1:1-3?

John 1 (KJV)
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¹ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
² The same was in the beginning with God.
³ All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Aemmyjah:


You've not answered my question sir
Why are you dogmatic?

Aemmyjah:


So Jesus was with God or He is God?

Westerhoffe:



The verse is speaking for itself.

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
— John 1:1 (KJV)

Stop asking an unreasonable question.

You that is supposed to be learning but here you are trying to teach.

You read, you deny.
You see you reject.
Yet asking a question despite seeing what you see the verse say.

FxMasterz:


Oh, I never knew you expected a straight answer for the question.

Yes, academically speaking, if any part of your writing is considered to bear a striking similarity with any other part of a prewritten work, you'll be accused of plagiarism.

Aemmyjah:



See
You are the one bringing it up
Things that make no sense

You said Jude copied from the Book of Enoch
You say Jesus is God or equal to God

Bible never claim Jesus is God
Trinitarians have tried to influence it in the scriptures
Interestingly, you are not even mentioning about the third person of trinity. What happened?

Angel Gabriel says he's the son of God
Satan says he's the son of God
Peter says he's the son of God
The demons say he's the son of God
John wrote that he's the son of God
God called him his begotten son
His opposers accuse him for calling himself God's son

I did not do anything blasphemous

Aemmyjah:



If you write about someone that lived about me 5000 years ago, quoting what he said
But someone who lived about 200 years ago had written something similar
Does it necessarily mean you copied the one who wrote something similar?
Where did that one get his information from? Could he have copied what someone or other people may have said or written about that person?

Aemmyjah:



See
You are the one bringing it up
Things that make a whole lot of sense

You said Jude copied quoted from relevance of the Book of Enoch
You say Jesus is God

The Bible admitted Jesus is God.

Dtruthspeaker:


Your bad leaders don't bother me as God truncates Satan's moves. I and my family will still have a very sweet livingimg even if 1$ is N3000. So its people like you who are still fighting with people like you that are screaming for bad leaders. Looks like you already in hellfire since your screamng has already begun.

Westerhoffe:
MaxInDHouse
Aemmyjah

Who is the Word of GOD?

John 1 (KJV)
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¹ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
² The same was in the beginning with God.
³ All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

“In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.”
— Genesis 1:1 (KJV)

“And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.”
— Revelation 19:13 (KJV)

Who is this personality called The Word of GOD?

Aemmyjah:



God's spokesman, Jesus Christ

Thanks.
This is what MaxInDHouse has been trying to avoid saying.

Now that you added GOD'S Spokesperson, which is JESUS CHRIST to be the Word of GOD, then you just admitted that JESUS CHRIST is GOD.

Good day.

Aemmyjah:


Just as you said Jude copied from Enoch, which is not true
Go and get your facts!

Westerhoffe:

Don't deviate.
Is JESUS CHRIST GOD or not since the Bible says 'GOD' created the heavens and the earth in the beginning, and the same Bible said JESUS CHRIST is the Word of GOD who created all things.
So, is JESUS CHRIST GOD or not?
And remember, the Bible said:
1 John 4 (KJV)
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¹ Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
² Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
³ And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
So, prepare to be labelled for denying JESUS CHRIST is come in the flesh.

Westerhoffe:



Enoch 2:
Behold, he comes with ten thousands of his saints, to execute judgment upon them, and destroy the wicked, and reprove all the carnal for everything which the sinful and ungodly have done, and committed against him.

Jude 1 (KJV)
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¹⁴ And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
¹⁵ To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

What's difficult for you to see here?
Cease arguing blindly.

Westerhoffe:



Thanks.
This is what MaxInDHouse has been trying to avoid saying.

Now that you added GOD'S Spokesperson, which is JESUS CHRIST to be the Word of GOD, then you just admitted that JESUS CHRIST is GOD.

Good day.

Aemmyjah:

Ok na
Someone can be a spokesman for himself?
Even Jesus called himself God's representative
I'm not engaging you again in your blind arguments

Aemmyjah:



Ok na
Someone can be a spokesman for himself?
Even Jesus called himself God's representative

I'm not engaging you again in your blind arguments

Aemmyjah:


Where did the writers of the book of Enoch got the information from since Enoch lived about 5000 years earlier?

Think
Think!

You're the one assuming Jude quoted Enoch