Spy360:

The bolded is where you need to learn. It starts by asking 'why'

I also think you are not being 100% sincere about Havertz's performances. I said earlier that he is more productive as an AM than as a false 9. But being a false 9 expertly combining going forward and dropping into midfield is making me change my mind. He is just good any where he plays.

And stop confusing playing false 9 as CF. That's poor football knowledge.

Lol, you'll never stop falling your hand. CF is just a position just the way you have RB. It's like you saying I should stop calling White RB because he's inverting. You spew so much ignorance with confidence.


As for Havertz, the only "Why" Havertz is starting is because presently he's Arteta's "adopted" pikin and he must make him work. He personally requested for him and shelled out 65m for him and like Antony to Ten Hag, he must be played whether he underwhelms or not.
I mean, have Arteta ever did any Victory parade for any player who scored his first open play goal here aside adopted pikin?

As for the False 9 role, I've said it here countlessly that it's his only place he can shine and that's what he's doing. If you notice, him no need your defense advocate to come dey invent words for him, we're all seeing it with our eyes. Unlike him Midfield where he was mostly a passenger attackingly in a very good system but only comes alive when we're out of possession.


All the whole matches he's shone this season is in CF(wey everybody deh see) and if he later shines in CF, na you suppose dey give me apology. But then, not that I even need it sef

Jodera:
At a time I started doubting if we really needed a striker during the blip days we went on a low scoring run that accounted for 3 losses(2pl and 1 fa cup). It was increasingly bad when we were missing easy chances. Then when I remember watching most of our games again and noticed that aside the Fulham game which we deserved to lose, all the other games were games we didn't really deserve to lose, we were just not clinical in front of goal (I remember saying it here around January).

Thank goodness Arteta and the boys found a way to overcome the toothlessness in front of goal. Not only that they look sharper, more commited and motivated and everyone seems to know their role expertly.

Long may it continue!!

We go still need am. Kai is doing okay last few games, but to be bigger than the big boys, we need one that will spread fear just by presence alone. See how Haaland positioning in Manchester derby was causing the two CBs to stay glued and give space to Foden and co. Plus as we are at peak creativity right now, additional threat is a 9 that reduced wasted runs or chances. It will make CBs to forget leaving their zone. If without 9 we dey do 88. With striker, we go do 110. Esp if that 9 is provider too. The atmosphere is ready and great. Na GJ dey make person dey feel like that spot is trivial.

daveP:


We go still need am. Kai is doing okay last few games, but to be bigger than the big boys, we need one that will spread fear just by presence alone. See how Haaland positioning in Manchester derby was causing the two CBs to stay glued and give space to Foden and co. Plus as we are at peak creativity right now, additional threat is a 9 that reduced wasted runs or chances. It will make CBs to forget leaving their zone. If without 9 we dey do 88. With striker, we go do 110. Esp if that 9 is provider too. The atmosphere is ready and great. Na GJ dey make person dey feel like that spot is trivial.

Are you sure about this?
If it was before (during their Henry time and so) where you need a traditional 9 to win things, I would have agreed but not now were football have evolved and system/automatism is in play presently.

Haaland just added gloss to Man city attack(even though he's devastating). Guardiola before Haaland in Man city was having superior goal difference and breaking all manner of records without a traditional 9. You can say "oh it's guardiola and he's a genius" but what about Klopp. He used Firmino (an Am in Liverpool) to win everything winnable. In fact, Liverpool would have been that Man city everyone is talking about if Pep wasn't sharing time with him.

My point is, the goal is to put the ball in the back of the net for a team to win and that's what Arteta is improvising on. Now anyone can score. Like literally anyone, so I won't have to be afraid where if my CF doesn't score or he's having a bad day, then I'm doomed.

I watched that video Sod09 dropped ystdy on Van Persie. In one of the clips I heard where they said in Van Persie last season for us, he scored 30 league goals while our second highest goalscorer (Walcott) scored 8. Geez!!!!

Imagine if Van Persie had injury towards the end of that season, that's how we would have been insulting village people.

Sometimes, it's subconsciously not healthy

Yesterday's match was just too orgasmic. These players didn't just enter the pitch to play, but to enjoy themselves. The way they were slicing through the midfield eh... To think we're the away team. Positionally, we didn't play with any CB during most part of the first half. We used one half of the field to demolish them. Before the match got to the 15th minute, the home fans were already leaving. Kudos to Wilder though. I've never seen such passion and dedication. I mean, your team was losing by six goals with just 3 minutes to go yet you stood at the touchline barking out instructions. That was so cool

On Partey...
That was a nice cameo. Although you could see the rustiness but he still showed his bossy attitude on the pitch.

On Vieira...
I was glad to see him on the pitch yesterday. I missed his incisive passes especially his ball striking efficiency.

On Havertz...
The excuse I gave then was that he is low on confidence, and that he needs time. 3G1A in 3 games is a substantial proof of how high his confidence is currently. I still don't like how em dey fall easily like naira under small touch. Make one short guy dey fall giant like him? o wrong now.

Jodera:
Are you sure about this?
If it was before (during their Henry time and so) where you need a traditional 9 to win things, I would have agreed but not now were football have evolved and system/automatism is in play presently.

Haaland just added gloss to Man city attack(even though he's devastating). Guardiola before Haaland in Man city was having superior goal difference and breaking all manner of records without a traditional 9. You can say "oh it's guardiola and he's a genius" but what about Klopp. He used Firmino (an Am in Liverpool) to win everything winnable. In fact, Liverpool would have been that Man city everyone is talking about if Pep wasn't sharing time with him.

My point is, the goal is to put the ball in the back of the net for a team to win and that's what Arteta is improvising on. Now anyone can score. Like literally anyone, so I won't have to be afraid where if my CF doesn't score or he's having a bad day, then I'm doomed.

I watched that video Sod09 dropped ystdy on Van Persie. In one of the clips I heard where they said in Van Persie last season for us, he scored 30 league goals while our second highest goalscorer (Walcott) scored 8. Geez!!!!

Imagine if Van Persie had injury towards the end of that season, that's how we would have been insulting village people.

Sometimes, it's subconsciously not healthy

Glad you said Haaland added gloss. If anything at all, he's not only scoring, his present is fear because of what CBs know what he's capable of. For now, we do not have that permanent presence.

We all saw how Osimhen was at just concluded Afcon even if he got just 1 goal. Every defence was nervous just because of his presence (finisher, provider, aerial)
From 88 to more than 88 is because a good finisher will bury chances more than one that's not. Besides, like I've always said, cross and nod goals will increase. Meaning we won't have to do much rogbodiyan on ground. Gabriel vexed me yesterday. He wan score but he was complicating things for himself 😂😂😂
If we had prime Auba in this current setup, we both know he will be on 30GA by now. Glad you used RVP example sef. That team was wack under Wenger in epl as regards creativity. Days we were praying for Song to return from injury so bad... PTSD days.

Spy360:
Roland17 our expired rookie is now punching above his weight. .

No vex just give am small praise abeg. It will not drain your dollar account

He is the 3rd longest tenured coach amongst 20 other coaches, entering his 5th year with 7 transfer windows and nearly 700M spent..

So what exactly still makes him a rookie coach punching above his weight? Is that your expectation for Arsenal? Has he not had enough time to put Arsenal in this situation. Should I be grateful because he is doing what we expect of him? Has he not had enough time and financial support?

Man, please miss me with some of this mediocrity this early morning. I have no other expectation from him than to win one of either competitions we are still in. Anything less is failure in my books, considering how he choked the league last season.

Abi shame no dey catch you? If you have not been following, I have given Arteta his due for our recent results and the development of Kiwior.

Spy360:
Dave Arteta is still planning to buy your dream striker.

VO? Mikel go weep if na VO. Agent indeed

So Paul Tierney was banned from officiating this weekend but still get to be on VAR duty in not the other 9 matches but Arsenal's. What are this people planning?

iamoyindamola:

Who's TH10

Modified already... I mean TH14.

daveP:


Glad you said Haaland added gloss. If anything at all, he's not only scoring, his present is fear because of what CBs know what he's capable of. For now, we do not have that permanent presence.

We all saw how Osimhen was at just concluded Afcon even if he got just 1 goal. Every defence was nervous just because of his presence (finisher, provider, aerial)
From 88 to more than 88 is because a good finisher will bury chances more than one that's not. Besides, like I've always said, cross and nod goals will increase. Meaning we won't have to do much rogbodiyan on ground. Gabriel vexed me yesterday. He wan score but he was complicating things for himself 😂😂😂
If we had prime Auba in this current setup, we both know he will be on 30GA by now. Glad you used RVP example sef. That team was wack under Wenger in epl as regards creativity. Days we were praying for Song to return from injury so bad... PTSD days.

I won't mind not having a striker as long as the goals are being spread and it won't subconsciously affect all our plays to be centred towards and around him. That's just my biggest fear Tbh.

Your points are valid tho as long as my arsenal still maintain this threat they have not just having a striker who will be banging goals while been limited in other aspects of plays

mostob:
So Paul Tierney was banned from officiating this weekend but still get to be on VAR duty in not the other 9 matches but Arsenal's. What are this people planning?

Hmmmm...
How will they ban someone yet assign him to var duties? Are all not under refereeing?

Wetin be the difference between wetin England deh do and wetin Nigeria politics dey do whereby they sanction a governor but still give him ministrial appointment?

Jodera:
Hmmmm...
How will they ban someone yet assign him to var duties? Are all not under refereeing?

Wetin be the difference between wetin England deh do and wetin Nigeria politics dey do whereby they sanction a governor but still give him ministrial appointment?

I tire o. What I know is their plan will fail. I won't be surprised if they rule out another legit goal by 'forgetting' to draw a line.
We should try and score 5, they can rule out 3 ..then we go home with the remaining 2 and 3 points.

That idiot is error prone
Lfc no suppose win

mostob:
So Paul Tierney was banned from officiating this weekend but still get to be on VAR duty in not the other 9 matches but Arsenal's. What are this people planning?

iamoyindamola:
That idiot is error prone
Lfc no suppose win

I hope one day, somebody will expose these shameless refs. I wonder why they don't get punished the way coaches and players do.

Jodera:
I won't mind not having a striker as long as the goals are being spread and it won't subconsciously affect all our plays to be centred towards and around him. That's just my biggest fear Tbh.

Your points are valid tho as long as my arsenal still maintain this threat they have not just having a striker who will be banging goals while been limited in other aspects of plays

No condition is permanent. That's where Barca and Spain messed up. Tiki is still a good philosophy but strikers add value still. If we want to sustain threats(mind you were are already) we need to do what the big boys do. We need someone to match Auba numbers. Heck, we've not had any match RVP sef in forever. It's what the big boys do and i know MA knows that.

We'll play City soon and we are all subconscious of Haaland where he is effective that day or not, but what he can do if we slip up. That's the impression i want on other teams playing us going forward.

Just recently we saw how absence of a 9 affected our Porto game. Like it is embarrassing having 0 shot on goal for a team flying in space in 2024 so far. A natural will have registered 1 or 2 shots at least. It's their instincts. We'll come good. See it as firing from all canisters or cylinders

It is Ramsdale vs Brentford o

Raya is on loan, hence.......

daveP:
It is Ramsdale vs Brentford o

Raya is on loan, hence.......

Wetin con happen, you guys need to respect ramsdale he deserve it
Raya hasn't done anything spectacular it's all defense

daveP:


No condition is permanent. That's where Barca and Spain messed up. Tiki is still a good philosophy but strikers add value still. If we want to sustain threats(mind you were are already) we need to do what the big boys do. We need someone to match Auba numbers. Heck, we've not had any match RVP sef in forever. It's what the big boys do and i know MA knows that.

We'll play City soon and we are all subconscious of Haaland where he is effective that day or not, but what he can do if we slip up. That's the impression i want on other teams playing us going forward.

Just recently we saw how absence of a 9 affected our Porto game. Like it is embarrassing having 0 shot on goal for a team flying in space in 2024 so far. A natural will have registered 1 or 2 shots at least. It's their instincts. We'll come good. See it as firing from all canisters or cylinders

How we want take explain again o.
Dave, you want us to add a traditional 9 to the team and start feeding him passes. If any 9 is coming, it won't be in the mould of Haaland. Having a top o who is only concerned about scoring will be detrimental to the team's development.

Imagine Nigeria without Osimhen during the last AFCON. Don't you think our chance of winning will drastically reduce? That's the kind of team you want us to be. A team that shift the entire focus on the striker. A team that is toothless without their talisman. We saw how this panned out when Auba was still here FFS.

One thing you should note is that you can't expect goals to be coming from every part of the pitch yet still expect the 9 you're suggesting to score 30 goals in a season. That's close to impossible. You can only choose one. The reasons why we're clamouring for another striker is because Jesus is injury proned, he is not clinical and due to his height (maybe). What you're suggesting is not feasible.

iamoyindamola:

Wetin con happen, you guys need to respect ramsdale he deserve it
Raya hasn't done anything spectacular it's all defense

I disagree with that last paragraph. It is all defence? Is Raya not part of the defence? They actually work for each other o.

mostob:
I disagree with that last paragraph. It is all defence? Is Raya not part of the defence? They actually work for each other o.

I don't know about that
And it's my opinion

iamoyindamola:

Wetin con happen, you guys need to respect ramsdale he deserve it
Raya hasn't done anything spectacular it's all defense

Why you flying now? Your inference no good o.

Emi, a whole Ramsdale fan naim you think i wan downplay my guy? 😆😆😆😆

daveP:
Why you flying now? Your inference no good o.

Emi, a whole Ramsdale fan naim you think i wan downplay my guy? 😆😆😆😆

You sounded shocked like we are about to use a terrible keeper

Roland17:


He is the 3rd longest tenured coach amongst 20 other coaches, entering his 5th year with 7 transfer windows and nearly 700M spent..

So what exactly still makes him a rookie coach punching above his weight? Is that your expectation for Arsenal? Has he not had enough time to put Arsenal in this situation. Should I be grateful because he is doing what we expect of him? Has he not had enough time and financial support?

Man, please miss me with some of this mediocrity this early morning. I have no other expectation from him than to win one of either competitions we are still in. Anything less is failure in my books, considering how he choked the league last season.

Abi shame no dey catch you? If you have not been following, I have given Arteta his due for our recent results and the development of Kiwior.

How does tenure and money spent determine whether a coach is doing well or not? As it stands even if he wins the league and CL double you will still not rate him. Imagine saying that he choked last season. Is Man City a joke to you? Which club did not choke facing City last season?

Asking for a word of encouragement cannot be mediocrity especially after winning in the kind of streak we have lately. I mean, I didn't say you should crown him King of EPL, I only asked for a word of encouragement. If that is asking too much because of your perceived high standards, I will be out for who deserves your praise.

mostob:
How we want take explain again o.
Dave, you want us to add a traditional 9 to the team and start feeding him passes. If any 9 is coming, it won't be in the mould of Haaland. Having a top o who is only concerned about scoring will be detrimental to the team's development.

Imagine Nigeria without Osimhen during the last AFCON. Don't you think our chance of winning will drastically reduce? That's the kind of team you want us to be. A team that shift the entire focus on the striker. A team that is toothless without their talisman. We saw how this panned out when Auba was still here FFS.

One thing you should note is that you can't expect goals to be coming from every part of the pitch yet still expect the 9 you're suggesting to score 30 goals in a season. That's close to impossible. You can only choose one. The reasons why we're clamouring for another striker is because Jesus is injury proned, he is not clinical and due to his height (maybe). What you're suggesting is not feasible.

See, i understand our free scoring mode. But it is like na you still wan dey downplay what such addition will do to this team(rem i put more threat in brackets?)

If you bin the idea that a 9 will disrupt this flow, and rather see a sensitive and quick thinking finisher that doesn't have time to waste and loves the net, you'll not need to be afraid of such arrival.

An arrival far better than Kai and Jesus and Nketiah combined is a juicy arrival that will spell fear to rivals more than now.

All I've ever done is highlight what a net lover and bully will add to this team. It is inevitable and the fluidity should be imagined! Lol

iamoyindamola:
I don't know about that And it's my opinion

Ok no vex

daveP:



See, i understand our free scoring mode. But it is like na you still wan fry downplay what such addition will do yo this team(rem i put more threat in brackets?)

If you bin the idea that a 9 will disrupt this flow, and rather see a sensitive and quick thinking finisher that doesn't have time to waste and loves the net, you'll not need to be afraid of such arrival.

An arrival far better than Kai and Jesus and Nketiah combined is a juicy arrival that will spell fear to rivals more than now.

All I've ever done is highlight what a net lover and bully will add to this team. It is inevitable and the fluidity should be imagined! Lol

Ok..let me rephrase. 'The net lover' must be ready to do more than goal scoring if you want us to keep up with the goalfest. If all he does is just to score goals, it will affect our goal returns.

iamoyindamola:

You sounded shocked like we are about to use a terrible keeper

Shock no be bad tin na. My guy is returning....

mostob:
Ok..let me rephrase. 'The net lover' must be ready to do more than goal scoring if you want us to keep up with the goalfest. If all he does is just to score goals, it will affect our goal returns.

Ohhh. I get your angle nowww


Haba

Was that your fear?

The modern 9 is now a norm already now.

Martinez
Vlah
Toney
Kane
Boniface
Lewa

Haaland
Osimhen

Alll are not waiting and strolling like Nketiah does sometimes. All contribute.

Recall i said a 9 that will do what Haaland did offball to Man U CBs, thereby creating space for Foden and co to exploit and scatter things

iamoyindamola:

Wetin con happen, you guys need to respect ramsdale he deserve it
Raya hasn't done anything spectacular it's all defense

If what you mean is core goalkeeping, that is catching or punching then Raya isnt better than Rams. The area where Raya beats him flat is his leg work which is more important for Arteta. Of which he has on several occasions assisted the assist with long calculative throws or kickouts

mostob:
I tire o. What I know is their plan will fail. I won't be surprised if they rule out another legit goal by 'forgetting' to draw a line.
We should try and score 5, they can rule out 3 ..then we go home with the remaining 2 and 3 points.

Lol... You know it was this same fixture that derailed us a bit last season with their ojoro line.
Now they want history to repeat itself but God pass dem

I know Thomas Frank will be wary of our attack too

daveP:


No condition is permanent. That's where Barca and Spain messed up. Tiki is still a good philosophy but strikers add value still. If we want to sustain threats(mind you were are already) we need to do what the big boys do. We need someone to match Auba numbers. Heck, we've not had any match RVP sef in forever. It's what the big boys do and i know MA knows that.

We'll play City soon and we are all subconscious of Haaland where he is effective that day or not, but what he can do if we slip up. That's the impression i want on other teams playing us going forward.

Just recently we saw how absence of a 9 affected our Porto game. Like it is embarrassing having 0 shot on goal for a team flying in space in 2024 so far. A natural will have registered 1 or 2 shots at least. It's their instincts. We'll come good. See it as firing from all canisters or cylinders

Tbh ehh, my subconsciously mind no dey halaand. The person I fear is Kdb cos he seems na him Sabi unlock Haaland well. As long as our two main CBs are present and I see no Kdb and Rodri in Man city starting 11, then I'm certain of 3 points. Haaland won't do zilch with our standard 11.

But then again, there's a reason Spain of then even with the plethora of strikers still went ahead with false 9 (Fabregas). I'm not against us moving from 88 to 110 o, but I'm just afraid it won't be at the detriment of our fluidity.

Man City even with the presence of Haaland didn't raise their goal scored to a great height compared to previous seasons. And to be honest, in the past 5 seasons, last season was the second lowest goalscored(I didn't include this season). Pep have harnessed his system for years hence he can use personal like Haaland. Can we?

Like I said I'm not against a traditional striker, just letting you know that getting one might not transition us from 88 goals to 101 except maybe we buy a Suarez

Spy360:

How does tenure and money spent determine whether a coach is doing well or not? As it stands even if he wins the league and CL double you will still not rate him. Imagine saying that he choked last season. Is Man City a joke to you? Which club did not choke facing City last season?

Asking for a word of encouragement cannot be mediocrity especially after winning in the kind of streak we have lately. I mean, I didn't say you should crown him King of EPL, I only asked for a word of encouragement. If that is asking too much because of your perceived high standards, I will be out for who deserves your praise.

Bros all this na shalaye na wetin they vex me for here
He spent 700m the most any arsenal manager will we deserve something to show for it simple
If not he's a failure and should be sacked