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Ghostagain:

It would make more sense if you actually showed me an older democracy than America. That is how a logical argumentation is done. It is not about just making a claim and then expecting everything to fall around your claim.

I'm not here to argue with you

I just wanted you to correct yourself.

Use the internet. (You made the claim, not me, I only disputed your claim that had no evidence attached)

There are host of countries older than America when it comes to democracy.

Greece
Switzerland
Iceland
Finland
San Marino
Isle of Man
Faro Island

(you can prove me wrong by posting evidence of why America is the oldest and not any of the ones I listed above).

Do not take my words for it, do your research as a "logical" student you claim to be.

Note : When responding, remember the keywords you used "Oldest democracy in the world"

WriiterNg:
⚡Russian National Guard, Rosgvardia, sent toy soldiers and cars to the French embassy in Moscow so Macron can play with those instead of trying to start a war with Russia.

This will keep the discount Napoleon busy for a while.

Discount Napoleon

WriiterNg:
⚡Iran has sent its top government officials to Niger following the departure of the US military from the country.

U.S officials have stated that Iran is negotiating a deal to have total control of Nigers Uranium Mines.

In exchange Niger will recieve the full backing of Iran, militarily, economically and politically.

Shiites in Nigeria fasting and praying this deal clicks.

-Lord

ClassicNairan:


Putin should be smart enough to know that they just want to buy more time to regroup, gather more weapons, and plan another offense. The West doesn't keep to their word, and they are shameless about it. They have done it before, so I don't think Putin will be foolish enough to agree to this.

You like fight...... Tomorrow you will be struggling to go to Europe.....
Well Trump is here for you putards

Procashtips:


I'm not here to argue with you

I just wanted you to correct yourself.

Use the internet. (You made the claim, not me, I only disputed your claim that had no evidence attached)

There are host of countries older than America when it comes to democracy.

Greece
Switzerland
Iceland
Finland
San Marino
Isle of Man
Faro Island

(you can prove me wrong by posting evidence of why America is the oldest and not any of the ones I listed above).

Do not take my words for it, do your research as a "logical" student you claim to be.

Note : When responding, remember the keywords you used "Oldest democracy in the world"

Ancient Greece and current Greece are not the same entity.
Also you don't seem to understand that we are talking about uninterrupted regimes. The USA democracy of today is the same government as that created roughly 200 years ago.
Switzerland... No, check the dates.
Finland ... Finland didn't even exist as a country until russian revolution saw it breakaway from Russia.

Dude, you don't understand that for your claim, you have to provide evidence. I'm not in the business of providing evidence for your claims, I have my own claims to prove and many people have claims as well, should I just spend my lifetime proving people's claims or should everybody prove his own claim ?
I thought you were smarter than this, but you are a product of your Nigerian environment.

"San Marino
Isle of Man
Faro Island"
I'm pretty sure these are new countries.

@procashtips.
When you make a claim, anybody is entitled to ask you for evidence, you are not entitled to ask people to prove your own claim for themselves, especially if you are in opposition with the other person. You are basically in a debate and asking your opponent to side with you in the debate.
It is weird that you thought you had a point.

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Ghostagain:
@procashtips.
When you make a claim, anybody is entitled to ask you for evidence, you are not entitled to ask people to prove your own claim for themselves, especially if you are in opposition with the other person. You are basically in a debate and asking your opponent to side with you in the debate.
It is weird that you thought you had a point.

Is this how you were taught in France or is it franka?

You : Writerng is a Russian
Me : You're wrong, kindly correct yourself
You: I said he's Russian, you're not expected to ask me to prove that.
Me : Really?

Now read the above again.

I wasn't in any debate with you, I just told you your assertion was wrong and even offered alternatives to your assertion.

It's left to a logical person to say, "I'm right, this is why".

Ghostagain:

Ancient Greece and current Greece are not the same entity.
Also you don't seem to understand that we are talking about uninterrupted regimes. The USA democracy of today is the same government as that created roughly 200 years ago.
Switzerland... No, check the dates.
Finland ... Finland didn't even exist as a country until russian revolution saw it breakaway from Russia.

Dude, you don't understand that for your claim, you have to provide evidence. I'm not in the business of providing evidence for your claims, I have my own claims to prove and many people have claims as well, should I just spend my lifetime proving people's claims or should everybody prove his own claim ?
I thought you were smarter than this, but you are a product of your Nigerian environment.

"San Marino
Isle of Man
Faro Island"
I'm pretty sure these are new countries.

Some of the countries I listed have more than a 1000 years of pure democracy. (Go and research them all)

Assumption doesn't do it here

You keep talking about the US without showing any prove.

Do you know that women weren't voting in the US until 1920?

Do you know that women of colour weren't voting until 1964?

Did you know that until late 1960s, some states in the US still didn't allow women vote?

Did you know that it took another 40 yrs for men of colour to be allowed to vote in some states in the US?

Did you know that the US constitution on the so call democracy wasn't binding on all the states until the 60s+ and took years before all the states agreed to follow the constitution fully?

The right to vote and be voted for as a bonfide citizen of a country is the most important virtue of democracy, the absence of that equals no democracy.

I will end this here.

Not interested in this debate because you're not showing attributes of a good sport.

https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/voting-rights-throughout-history/

https://www.history.com/news/what-is-the-worlds-oldest-democracy

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_voting_rights_in_the_United_States.

Procashtips:


Is this how you were taught in France or is it franka?

You : Writerng is a Russian
Me : You're wrong, kindly correct yourself
You: I said he's Russian, you're not expected to ask me to prove that.
Me : Really?

Now read the above again.

I wasn't in any debate with you, I just told you your assertion was wrong and even offered alternatives to your assertion.

It's left to a logic person to say, "I'm right, this is why".

To prove that American democracy is the oldest (without referring to official documents which say so), I would need to take every democracy on earth and compare their date of Inception to that of America.
You could have simply asked me to provide evidence to my claim, in which case I would have looked for such evidence (mostly in the form of official documents which make that claim, because I'm not going to spend two weeks verifying every democracy on earth). Instead you claimed I were wrong. To prove that American democracy is not the oldest in the world, it suffices to just show one democracy which is older, and you failed to perform that simple task.
I can be excused for believing that American democracy is the oldest if I were wrong, because it could be that my sources of information were wrong and doing the verification by myself is extremely time consuming, but you came here to say that America is not thr oldest democracy on earth, and you did so without a single older democracy to show.

Also, look, I'm not a student, I write books which specialists and students read, you seem stuck in studenthood.

Ghostagain:

To prove that American democracy is the oldest (without referring to official documents which say so), I would need to take every democracy on earth and compare their date of Inception to that of America.
You could have simply asked me to provide evidence to my claim, in which case I would have looked for such evidence. Instead you claimed I were wrong. To prove that American democracy is not the oldest in the world, it suffices to just show one democracy which is older, and you failed to perform that simple task.
I can be excused for believing that American democracy is the oldest if I were wrong, because it could be that my sources of information were wrong and doing the verification by myself is extremely time consuming, but you came here to say that America is not thr oldest democracy on earth, and you did so without a single older democracy to show.

Also, look, I'm not a student, I write books which specialists and students read, you seem stuck in studenthood.

Ok Albert Einstein.

Procashtips:


Some of the countries I listed have more than a 1000 years of pure democracy. (Go and research them all)

This is what I don't particularly appreciate with you, you keep being vague.
Why not specify which countries instead of saying "some of the countries" ?

Once again you seem confused, I am not your student, you don't get to give me homework.
If you have a claim, then kindly prove it yourself. I'm not going to waste my time proving or disproving your own claim.

Procashtips:


Ok Albert Einstein.

We don't evolve in the same intellectual environment. By the way Albert Einstein is not my model in science, I don't steal other people's work and get famous for that work, also I make less mistakes in my calculations than Albert Einstein did. And finally I'm a mathematician, he was a physicist.
I love his human values though.

Ghostagain:

This is what I don't particularly appreciate with you, you keep being vague.
Why not specify which countries instead of saying "some of the countries" ?

Once again you seem confused, I am not your student, you don't get to give me homework.
If you have a claim, then kindly prove it yourself. I'm not going to waste my time proving or disproving your own claim.

You're confused bro.

You said you're not my student and shouldn't give you home work, yet you're doing the same?

You funny bro.

I have done a bit on this already. Make use of what I provided to support my views on why the US isn't the oldest democracy, you can then continue with me from there if need be.

Enjoy your day.

Ghostagain:

We don't evolve in the same intellectual environment. By the way Albert Einstein is not my model in science, I don't steal other people's work and get famous for that work, also I make less mistakes in my calculations than Albert Einstein did. And finally I'm a mathematician, he was a physicist.
I love his human values though.

Ok Ghost Again.

Procashtips:


You're confused bro.

You said you're not my student and shouldn't give you home work, yet you're doing the same?

You funny bro.

I have done a bit on this already. Make use of what I provided to support my views on why the US isn't the oldest democracy, you can then continue with me from there if need be.

Enjoy your day.

You believe me asking you to prove your own claims is the same as me giving you homework?
No, that is just me reminding you of the logical rules of the world. You prove your claim, you don't get to delegate that to me.

Ghostagain:

You believe me asking you to prove your own claims is the same as me giving you homework?
No, that is just me reminding you of the logical rules of the world. You prove your claim, you don't get to delegate that to me.

Guy, you didn't even prove your own claim, yet have the audacity to ask me to keep proving mine after multiple evidences posted by me?

You don't even know anything about US democracy or the history of the so called democracy in the US.

Please, I thought you were smart and intelligent as you always claim on this thread.

Time to face what brings me here.