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Re: Africans Are Not Arabs Who Enslaved And Castrated Africans For Centuries by babasolution: 7:30am On May 29 |
Dsimmer: No facts there,no dates,no locations, all fabrications |
Re: Africans Are Not Arabs Who Enslaved And Castrated Africans For Centuries by honesttalk21: 7:37am On May 29 |
Dsimmer: Would say comical but the extent of assumption is incredible. Allah, according to several Arabic lexicons, means "the Being Who comprises all the attributes of perfection", i.e. the Being Who is perfect in every way (in His knowledge, power etc.), and possesses the best and the noblest qualities imaginable in the highest degree. Contrary to popular belief, the word Allah is NOT a contraction of al-ilah (al meaning 'the', and ilah meaning 'god'). Had it been so, then the expression ya Allah ('O Allah!') would have been ungrammatical, because according to the Arabic language when you address someone by the vocative form ya followed by a title, the al ('the') must be dropped from the title. For example, you cannot say ya ar-rabb but must say ya rabb similarly Ya ar-Rahman is wrong so it is Ya Rahman. Allah was NOT one of the gods of the pre-Islamic Arabs, but was recognised by them as the supreme, abstract God. There was no idol which they called "Allah". The Quran quotes the idol-worshippers as presenting the argument that: "We worship them (i.e. the idols) only so that they may bring us nearer to Allah." (39:3) |
Re: Africans Are Not Arabs Who Enslaved And Castrated Africans For Centuries by Dsimmer: 7:40am On May 29 |
honesttalk21: You're the one exonerating the criminal Arabs. If the European had acted as Arabs, you wouldn't even be here saying anything 🤔 Facts is the European have left African lands, even as the Africans are still in their own African countries which European previously occupied before leaving! That can't be said for the Arabs who are still occupying African lands while the northern Africans were wiped out. That's my answer! |
Re: Africans Are Not Arabs Who Enslaved And Castrated Africans For Centuries by Dsimmer: 7:49am On May 29 |
honesttalk21: Of course I already opined that allat/allah isn't from ilah just like I have severally stated. Pre Mohammed Arabs who were practicing Christianity call God "ilah" which is derived from Jewish and Aramaic name for God which is "elah/eloah"📌 However, Mohammed came and elevated the allat deity which is grandfather almost sacrificed his child to. The allah deity is got from allat deity at kabba whom Muhammad's grandfather almost sacrificed his child to. Mohammed wasn't cool with it being a female deity thus changed it to a male deity but continued with the crescent and stone worshipping at allat's Kabba nonetheless, added with his criminality, pedophila, camel urine drinking while his unintelligent useless self promised a perverted brothel heaven. The nerves! Anyways, all that ain't even my business. Point is Africans are not Arabs! |
Re: Africans Are Not Arabs Who Enslaved And Castrated Africans For Centuries by honesttalk21: 8:07am On May 29 |
Dsimmer: I am not in any way exonerating the Arabs; both practices were bad. Simply stating that European practices even over a shorter period were more severe. What is the true skin colour of the Indians. Remember they too were colonised and even much longer than most African countries? Have the Europeans really left Africa or you uphold this pseudo independence that is still colonisation? How many types of South African s exist? |
Re: Africans Are Not Arabs Who Enslaved And Castrated Africans For Centuries by honesttalk21: 8:15am On May 29 |
Dsimmer: Al-Lat/Allat is not Allah and was worshipped as a separate deity in pre-Islamic Arabia. Your claims on dislike about her ferminity is too far reaching. Did Islam not abolish killing the female child? Al-Lat was considered a chief deity of certain tribes like Banu Thaqif in Ta’if. However, her worship ended when her temple in Ta’if was destroyed on the orders of Muhammad. What tribe is Muhammad pbuh of? The slanderous claims of paedophilia are untrue and unfounded. Also camel urine furnished promising antibacterial activities against gram-positive bacteria, namely Staphylococcus aureus, Bacillus cereus, Bacillus subtilis and Micrococcus luteus, as well as gram-negative bacteria, especially Escherichia coli, Klebsiella pneumoniae. This is from scientific research not the careless statements. |
Re: Africans Are Not Arabs Who Enslaved And Castrated Africans For Centuries by Dsimmer: 8:21am On May 29 |
honesttalk21: More severe yet Africans are still existing in Africa lands and Europe unlike in Northern Africans and Saudi were they were wiped out? You must be insane! Meanwhile, the European are not the ones who asked African countries not to elevate and improve their countries while some Africans "carry" backward foreign religion on top head and start to drink camel urine, even as the backward Fulani criminals refused to be civilized with their useless ulterior motives. Heck, some Africans destroyed their functioning regionalism. |
Re: Africans Are Not Arabs Who Enslaved And Castrated Africans For Centuries by Dsimmer: 8:36am On May 29 |
honesttalk21: The backwardness I was just talking about. While every sane people are trying to live in innovative civilized world, this one is still living in the barbaric backward practice of Arab foreign religion which doesn't concern him in the first place. Were you under rock when it was certified that camel urine is unhealthy for the body? If you had a brain to begin with, you would know urine is a waste product! Mohammad was dumb and that was why he drank camel's urine.. And yes, allah is from allat stone deity at kabba. That was the deity which Mohammad grandfather almost sacrificed his child to. Pre Mohammed Arabs who were practicing Christianity call God "ilah" which is derived from Jewish and Aramaic name for God which is "elah/eloah" Mohammed came and elevated the allat deity which his grandfather almost sacrificed his child to. That's why the criminal pedophile Mohammed continued with the ritual of crescent and stone worshipping at allat's Kabba. Mohammed wasn't cool with it being a female deity thus changed to a male deity coined from allat. Added with his criminality, camel urine drinking, pedophila (he married 6 yrs Aisha for example) while his useless unintelligible self promised a brothel heaven. The nerves! |
Re: Africans Are Not Arabs Who Enslaved And Castrated Africans For Centuries by honesttalk21: 9:10am On May 29 |
Dsimmer: All the early major Berber tribes including the Masmuda, Sanhaja, Ketama Zenata and Nafusa are described as dark reddish brown like the “Indi’ or as “blacks” or Ethiopians in early documents. The original inhabitants of North Africa, prior to Arab invasions and the trans-Saharan slave trade, were primarily Berber tribes. The Berbers are an ethnic group indigenous to North Africa, including regions such as Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, and Mauritania. They have a diverse range of physical appearances, including varying skin tones. The Berber people traditionally had a range of skin colors that could be described as fair to olive-toned to darker shades. This variation in skin color among the Berber tribes was due to a combination of genetic diversity and historical interactions with other populations in the region |
Re: Africans Are Not Arabs Who Enslaved And Castrated Africans For Centuries by honesttalk21: 9:34am On May 29 |
Dsimmer: Backwardness you say. What sort of independence was given to African countries? Were they not made to adopt the practices of their Colonial masters in their pseudo independence? Are they still not subjected to them in the queer guise of world and United government bodies? Tell me which one has been able to design their own governing system as was in the pre-colonised era? Independence has not translated to prosperity or justice for all Africans. It brought challenges such as internal conflicts, ethnic divisions, corruption, neocolonialism, globalization, and the need to redefine and reassert independence in the face of new forms of oppression. Africa’s independence can be viewed as a mixed reality depending on various perspectives. On one hand, most African countries have achieved political sovereignty with their governments, constitutions, flags, national anthems recognized by international community. On the other hand, many countries still face challenges such as legacy impacts of colonialism/imperialism/slavery (ethnic conflicts/artificial borders), external influences (former colonizers/multinational corporations/international organizations), underdevelopment/dependency/poverty which limit their freedom/agency. Thus it is essential to acknowledge both achievements & challenges when considering Africa’s independence today. There is no proof that allat became Allah and you just say what you feel as they seem similar. |
Re: Africans Are Not Arabs Who Enslaved And Castrated Africans For Centuries by honesttalk21: 9:36am On May 29 |
Recent research by scholars like Joshua Little from Oxford University and others suggests that this widely accepted narrative is based on historical fabrications rather than factual evidence. |
Re: Africans Are Not Arabs Who Enslaved And Castrated Africans For Centuries by Dsimmer: 11:18am On May 29 |
honesttalk21: And where are the majority of the Berbers in North Africa today? Murdered and displaced. The Berbers were the Libyans described as having tawny skins who cover their skins with feathers as described by the Greek traveller Herodotus who differentiated the Berbers from the Black Egyptians. Both the Blacks Egyptians and the Berbers Libyans and also in Tunisia were all wiped out by the criminal Arabs yet your unintelligent useless self is saying what exactly? Are you stupid? |
Re: Africans Are Not Arabs Who Enslaved And Castrated Africans For Centuries by Dsimmer: 11:36am On May 29 |
honesttalk21: So it's the Europeans who asked Africans not to improve African countries since the Europeans left or asked you to be drinking unhealthy camel urine, even as the Fulani criminals refused to be uncivilized with their useless ulterior motives! If the Europeans had acted like Arab did to Northern Africa who were wiped out by the Arabs, you wouldn't even be here saying gibberish to begin with. Nigeria for example had functional regional system which accelerated a lot of development and great things until it was destroyed by criminals in 1967 yet you're blaming the Europeans? Anyways, the proof of allat becoming allah is allat's kabba ritual today and also the crescent, as well as Mohammad's grandfather. The mention of a perverted brothel heaven by the lunatic criminal Mohammad is another clue.. Pre Mohammed Arabs who were practicing Christianity called God Ilah (ilah) derived from the Jewish and Aramaic name for God, Ela/Eloah📌 |
Re: Africans Are Not Arabs Who Enslaved And Castrated Africans For Centuries by honesttalk21: 12:33pm On May 29 |
Dsimmer: Berbers are predominantly located in North African countries such as Morocco, Algeria, Libya, Tunisia, Mauritania, Mali, and northern Niger. In Algeria, approximately one-fourth of the population is estimated to be Berber, while in Morocco, Berbers are estimated to make up more than three-fifths of the population. From where have they been wiped out unless wiped out no longer means totally eradicated? Dsimmer: The legacy of colonialism continues to impact Africa’s growth and stability. International control over Africa’s resources and economies has been a significant factor contributing to the continent’s underdevelopment. The exploitation by external powers disrupt indigenous systems, hinder technological progress, and perpetuate economic disparities that continue to affect Africa today. Africa exports raw materials like cotton but imported manufactured goods due to technological stagnation caused by European interference. Various global superpowers and countries provided support to either Nigeria or Biafra, influenced by economic interests, Cold War dynamics, and regional alliances. The key players in this international double play include Great Britain, the Soviet Union, France, China, the United States, and several other minor countries. Africa, despite its abundant natural resources, remains one of the poorest regions in the world. The continent has persistently lagged behind other continents in terms of economic wealth and human capital development. This situation can be attributed to a combination of historical factors, including colonial exploitation and more recent issues such as corruption and mismanagement. You may recall when the past military regime in 1983-85 tried to recover the loot of Dikko from UK and recently how the west keeps allowing their institutions remain safe havens for looted funds which should develop Africa. al-Lat’s temple was in Ta’if and was demolished. I have told you before that the pre-islamic polytheist say we worship them (i.e. the idols) only so that they may bring us nearer to Allah." (Quran 39:3). Worship at the Kaaba and prayers in the direction of the kaaba are strictly towards Allah. Both relatives of the prophet Muhammad pbuh; his grandfather, Abdul Mutalib, and his uncle, Abu Talib, did not accept Islam. So you see your unfounded claims? |
Re: Africans Are Not Arabs Who Enslaved And Castrated Africans For Centuries by Dsimmer: 1:18pm On May 29 |
honesttalk21: Nah. Arabs are the ones who dominate the Northern Africa today. Sink that into your useless unintelligent skull. To think your useless unintelligent self is exonerating the criminals Arabs who now dominate the North Africa while the aborigines were wiped out shows how useless and stupid you're ! Mohammad changed allat to allah with the same double LL 📌because he wasn't cool with the fact that it's a female deity hence why allat's kabba is being used today. The useless allah which promises a brothel heaven doesn't even know the count of the days to begin with 😅 since it created light after the earth😅 according to the unintelligent camel urine drinking criminal Pedophile Mohammad 😂 That's why it can't be Ela which represents light and intelligence in Yoruba language. Btw, Ela who is Omoloju Eledumare/Olodumare is the absolute extension/movement of Olodumare which created Obatala (light) and Oduduwa (the black vessel/space of creation which includes the earth) which formed the whole universe. |
Re: Africans Are Not Arabs Who Enslaved And Castrated Africans For Centuries by honesttalk21: 7:29pm On May 29 |
Dsimmer: Arabs dominate a region you claim has wiped out the aborigines? How come the original northern Africans manage to retain their unique cultural identity? Today, the Berbers continue to celebrate their ancient traditions and languages. Are the Tamazight and Tifinagh script practices of the Arabs? It appears you no longer understand the phrase wiped out which you use. Despite the influence of the Arabs, the original northern Africans manage to retain their unique cultural identity. Today, the Berbers continue to celebrate their ancient traditions and languages.They also make significant contributions to the cultural diversity of northern Africa, influencing art, music, and literature in the region. The legacy of the original northern Africans lives on in the rich tapestry of cultures that make up modern-day northern Africa. The word "Allat" is a compound word that is often used in reference to one of the multiple gods or deities in ancient Middle Eastern religions. It was commonly used in the pre-Islamic era to refer to a goddess in Arabian polytheism. Allah is the singular, all-powerful God worshipped by Muslims. Allah is distinct from Allat which is a compound word Al-lat. Your bias unfortunately enhances disuse of any intellectual capacity you may have. It is no bother but be sure to support your error with irrefutable proof. I have shown you that neither the grandfather of the prophet pbuh despite his love of his grandson nor Abu Talib accepted Islam like you wrongly claimed. Al-lat idol was destroyed as other idols in the kaaba as well as the temple in Ta'if. When Mecca was conquered by Muslim forces in 630 AD, Prophet Muhammad pbuh ordered the destruction of all idols within the Kaaba, including Al-lat. This event signified a turning point in the religious landscape of Arabia, as it marked the end of polytheistic practices in one of its most sacred sites. |
Re: Africans Are Not Arabs Who Enslaved And Castrated Africans For Centuries by Dsimmer: 7:48pm On May 29 |
honesttalk21: Ode, what nonsense culture are you talking when Arab ethnicity are 90-95% in the Northern Africa while they practise Arab culture yet this is what your unintelligent self can come up with? Na craze? Are you that useless? As I said, your unintelligent self exonerating the criminals Arabs who now dominate the North Africa while the aborigines were wiped out shows how useless and stupid you're ! 🙄It seems camel urine drinking has finally damaged your brain or you've got none to begin with. On allah, the proof of allah being coined from allat is the allat's kabba stone worshipping today and the crescent ritual. Not to mention the useless brothel heaven promised by the camel drinking lunatic criminal Arab pedophile Mohammad. As I said already, the dumb perverted criminal allah promising perverted brothel for its fellow perverted criminal terrorist people in its hell 😅 doesn't even know the count of days to begin with because its unintelligible dumb self says light was created after the earth. That can't be Ela which means intelligence, light, purity/righteousness in Yoruba language btw.. |
Re: Africans Are Not Arabs Who Enslaved And Castrated Africans For Centuries by babasolution: 8:20pm On May 29 |
Dsimmer: Again,were is the evidence, aborigines of northern Africa were wiped out? There's no proof of that,even if they were wiped out,they weren't subsaharan blacks,they were a different people, Arabs cannot wipe out blacks,its impossible |
Re: Africans Are Not Arabs Who Enslaved And Castrated Africans For Centuries by Dsimmer: 8:31pm On May 29 |
babasolution: The ethnicity in Northern Africa lands is 90% Arabs and they practice Arab culture, so what's your foolish self saying exactly? Imagine the culture of the Northern Africans absolutely destroyed! Not only were their heritage absolutely destroyed but also, the people were wiped out! That was so callous! Btw, the Egyptians were blacks. All their arts depicts them black. The ancient Greeks such Aristotle, Plato etc described the Egyptians as blacks! |
Re: Africans Are Not Arabs Who Enslaved And Castrated Africans For Centuries by babasolution: 8:40pm On May 29 |
Dsimmer: The Egyptians if they were blacks weren't wiped out by Arabs, maybe some other event or circumstance wiped them out not Arabs,Arabs could never have had the ability to wipe them out. Arabs don't have such power. Why did Arabs not wipe Europeans out when they invaded Europe through Spain. You are giving Arabs undue recognition They have no such fighting ability You are indirectly categorising blacks as weak people. Blacks were never weak No,not at anytime in history 1 Like |
Re: Africans Are Not Arabs Who Enslaved And Castrated Africans For Centuries by Dsimmer: 8:52pm On May 29 |
babasolution: As I said, the Egyptians were blacks, even as their arts depict them as blacks. Heck, the ancient Greeks such as Aristotle, Plato etc affirmed that the Egyptians were Blacks📌 All of them were wiped out. How were they wiped out? Because they failed to use the intelligence in their Ori. Instead of the Egyptians to develop themselves the more with more innovative inventions, they rather replaced their superior culture/heritage with backward barbaric foreign Arab culture of camel urine drinking while they started killing themselves over the backward unintelligent foreign allah stone worshipping until the Arab eventually finished them all and wiped them out! Arabs couldn't wipe out the Europeans back then when they tried because apart from the fact that the European continued to invent things to develop their country, they were also not stupid enough to replace their culture with backward barbaric foreign culture. |
Re: Africans Are Not Arabs Who Enslaved And Castrated Africans For Centuries by honesttalk21: 10:31pm On May 29 |
Dsimmer: You resort to outright abuse as you are unable to provide proof for your misguided fantasy? Do Arabs make up 90-95% of the North African population? Prove you don't lie by presenting credible report to back your claim. Continue spewing your ignorance. No Muslim worships any stone. All worship is for and to Allah. When you stop deliberately or stupidly lying we can discuss. Until then continue alone or with your type. |
Re: Africans Are Not Arabs Who Enslaved And Castrated Africans For Centuries by babasolution: 11:05pm On May 29 |
Dsimmer: Europeans replaced their culture entirely with the foreign Christian culture from the same middle east |
Re: Africans Are Not Arabs Who Enslaved And Castrated Africans For Centuries by OALandAgents: 1:18pm On May 30 |
Where is the evidence that the so called Trans-Saharan slave trade actually occurred and was not just a lie written into the history books ? Secondly no evidence Islam originated from Arabs, Islam is not the major religion in Africa, in my opinion, no religion is. Even if for argument sake, Islam originates from Arabs and Islam became the major religion, that is no proof that Arabs ever enslaved Africans. blacknp: |
Re: Africans Are Not Arabs Who Enslaved And Castrated Africans For Centuries by OALandAgents: 1:51pm On May 30 |
Stop with the childish throwing of insults and stick to the issue being discussed! Where is your evidence that Arabs ever enslaved Africans. That Arabs now occupy Egypt does not automatically prove that Arabs ever enslaved Africans. Dsimmer: |
Re: Africans Are Not Arabs Who Enslaved And Castrated Africans For Centuries by Dsimmer: 2:28pm On May 30 |
OALandAgents: Useless dolt, evidence is the Arab culture and major ethnicity in northern Africa, including Egypt. |
Re: Africans Are Not Arabs Who Enslaved And Castrated Africans For Centuries by Dsimmer: 8:13am On May 31 |
honesttalk21: You can't dispute the cold facts. As I already stated, you're useless for exonerating the criminal Arabs for wiping out the Northern Africans from the North Africa. As I also stated, allah was coined from allat with the same double LL only because Mohammad didn't like the fact that it was a female deity thus changed it to a male deity. The proof is the allat's kabba stone worshipping, the crescent representation and the promise of a brothel heaven by the camel urine drinking criminal Arab pedophile Mohammed. Criminal dumb allah stone that's promising brothel hell for his fellow perverted pedophile terrorists doesn't even know the count of days because the dumb allah stone says light was created after the earth. Lol. That can't be the same as Ela/Eloah/Elowah/Elohim. Ela means intelligence, light, purity/righteousness in Yoruba language while Oluwa also means Lord of righteousness, Lord of creation in Yoruba language. Ela is Omoloju Eledumare btw 📌 If Allah stone with the double LL is Lord of righteousness, it won't promise a perverted brothel heaven🙄 Or if it's Lord of intelligence and creation, it will know that Light was created before the Earth😅 A dumb stone I must say. Not Olodumare/Eledumare/Olorun/Oluwa! Meanwhile, another Yoruba name for God is Eriwoyah btw. Anyways, the criminal Arab's allah stone with its camel drinking brothel hell 😅for its fellow criminal pedophilic terrorists and its unintelligent camel urine drinking criminal Arab pedophile Mohammad is not even my business because Africans are not Arabs. The point is Africans are not Arabs. What Africans need is Innovative Invention/Creativity, Education and Civilization! |
Re: Africans Are Not Arabs Who Enslaved And Castrated Africans For Centuries by Dsimmer: 12:35pm On May 31 |
babasolution: Well, it was the Europeans who invaded the Jewish territory, Judea/Yehudah and then captured the majority of the Jews who were in Jewish land and then brought them into Europe. Einstein's mother was a Jew for example. Most of the Jewish ended up assimilating into the Europeans midst. Besides, The Europeans still have their languages, heritage, dresses etc.. Point was the Europeans didn't stop their innovation but continue to make innovation to civilize and develop their country nor were they killing themselves over any foreign culture, let alone a foreign backward culture. Unlike the Egyptians who replaced their superior culture with backward retrogressive camel urine foreign Arab culture while killing themselves over foreign allah stone worshipping until Arab finished them all in the end. Same is happening in Sudan as we speak. The Sudanese replaced their culture with the backward foreign Arab culture while killing themselves over the foreign Arab Allah stone. Anyways, the point is Africans are not Arabs. What Africans need are innovative Invention/Creativity, Education and Civilization📌 |
Re: Africans Are Not Arabs Who Enslaved And Castrated Africans For Centuries by babasolution: 12:59pm On May 31 |
Dsimmer: Africans are not Arabs,only hausa-fulani,kanuri and maybe Sudan kill because of religion in AFRICA |
Re: Africans Are Not Arabs Who Enslaved And Castrated Africans For Centuries by Dsimmer: 6:04pm On May 31 |
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Re: Africans Are Not Arabs Who Enslaved And Castrated Africans For Centuries by Dsimmer: 7:25pm On May 31 |
babasolution: And look at what's presently happening in Sudan. Or in the core North! Hence why I said those Africans killing themselves over backward retrogressive camel urine foreign Arab culture are idiots who need their brain checked. Same thing the Egyptians did when they refused to use the intelligence in their Ori thus ended up replacing their superior culture with backward retrogressive foreign Arab culture while killing themselves over foreign Arab allah stone till the criminal Arabs finished them and wiped them all out in the end. It's so annoying till now. Africans are not Arabs! What Africans need is Innovative Invention/Creativity, Education and Civilization. |
Re: Africans Are Not Arabs Who Enslaved And Castrated Africans For Centuries by babasolution: 7:49pm On May 31 |
Dsimmer: The so called Egyptians were defeated by Assyrians first who were not Muslims,then Greeks who were not Muslims,then Romans who were not Muslims. These are the people who wiped out the indigenous so called black Egyptians, not Arabs,by the time Arabs entered Egypt, the population was no more majority black if indeed they were black before. |
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