Krismas:
EVERYTHING U WROTE, IS RUBBISH
1. Israel has no control over hamas. israel cannot stop hamas from power. its merely a waste of saliva, pretending as though hamas cares about wot israel want or do not want about hamas in power
2. if hamas is never interested in the welfare of gazans, why is hamas approval rates in gaza and west bank very high? see pics. abi u know more about welfare in gaza more than the people living in gaza?
3. the first question should be, why did israel pull out at all? its cos, they know, they cant protect the evil israeli land grabbers from hamas. and as soon as hamas establish a foothold in westbank also, israeli settlers, will have to run away, like they have fled from hezbollah in the north. its only violence israel respect. see pics for the new map in the north of israel now
4. iran is also a nuclear superpower. and iran is going to arm hamas. see pics below. hamas has every right to defend itsef against zionist occupation and colonialism.
5. Israel has demolished over 1000 houses in west bank. killed close to 1000 people, kidnapped over 7000 Palestinians in the west bank, burnt peoples farms, cut down their trees, poisoned their water sources. and u still talking nonsense?

grandstar:


It is amazing you deduced I'm pro-Israeli from from what I wrote. I am non-partisan and not absorbed about it like many others do.

Let me answer your questions one by one the way you did mine

1. Israel has no hold over Hamas. Yet, Israel controls over 80% of Gaza today and Hamas has lost thousands of fighters. Hold over Hamas?
You're throwing the baby out with the bathwater. The issue on ground isn't what Hamas thinks or Israel or what Israel thinks?. What
matters most is what policies can lift the fortunes of Gazans! This does not matter to you at all.

What is the way forward for Gaza? I would suggest the Gulf states along with others set up a new government which would be focused
on the welfare and growth of Gaza. There should also be thousands of peace keeping troops on ground.

Some autonomous status should also be given to it.

2. If Hamas rating was so good, why has Hamas stop free and fair elections in Gaza for over 15 years? It has held on to power through the
barrel of the gun. It knows it would lose any election. Hamas unapologetically runs a dictatorship.

It tolerates no dissent in Gaza. Even in Israeli prisons, it is notorious for its treatment of inmates (also Hamas members) who dare speak out
against it.

If it presently has mass popularity, it should boil down to the anger that Gazans now have against Israel due to the 7 month war.

https://www.jns.org/gazans-speak-out-hamass-warmongering-keeps-us-oppressed-and-poor/

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-60173481

3. Whether Israel pulled out its settlers due to Hamas or not, means nothing.

What has Hamas done with the pull out? Nothing but warmongering, always fanning the flames of war.

4. Iran is a nuclear power. Iran like Hamas has impoverished its' people. In 1979, Iran was 50% richer per capita income than Turkey, today, it
is the other way around.

All Iran does is to wage trouble. Its people are fed off with the oppressive yoke of the Mullahs who misrule the place and want them gone.

No wonder Iran loves Hamas. They are birds of the same feather. Both are sponsors of hubris.

5. As I said, Israel ain't saints. Its actions in the West Bank leave me miffed. Anyone would.

Is it delusional to think that Palestinian growth is anathema to Israel? There are over 1million Palestinians that call modern Israel home.
Some are soldiers engaged in the present Gaza/Israeli war.

Now, what do you know about Cyprus?

Empiree:
You have already chosen your side buddy without openly saying it lol. Palestinian authority in the West hasn't hold election in years either. So you have no point. What has Iran gotta do with this?. Nigerians are more impoverished than Iranians lol

Krismas:
what do u mean the truth? Arabs are not Palestinians. Arabs are co conspirators with the west to scuttle a Palestinian state. thats why the Hashemite Arabs are really not helping the Palestinians beyond just talk. so stop quoting what a stupid arab said about Palestine and Jerusalem. cos he is just a traitor. and a Zionist arselicker.

grandstar:


It is amazing you deduced I'm pro-Israeli from from what I wrote. I am non-partisan and not absorbed about it like many others do.

Let me answer your questions one by one the way you did mine

1. Israel has no hold over Hamas. Yet, Israel controls over 80% of Gaza today and Hamas has lost thousands of fighters. Hold over Hamas?
You're throwing the baby out with the bathwater. The issue on ground isn't what Hamas thinks or Israel or what Israel thinks?. What
matters most is what policies can lift the fortunes of Gazans! This does not matter to you at all.

What is the way forward for Gaza? I would suggest the Gulf states along with others set up a new government which would be focused
on the welfare and growth of Gaza. There should also be thousands of peace keeping troops on ground.

Some autonomous status should also be given to it.

2. If Hamas rating was so good, why has Hamas stop free and fair elections in Gaza for over 15 years? It has held on to power through the
barrel of the gun. It knows it would lose any election. Hamas unapologetically runs a dictatorship.

It tolerates no dissent in Gaza. Even in Israeli prisons, it is notorious for its treatment of inmates (also Hamas members) who dare speak out
against it.

If it presently has mass popularity, it should boil down to the anger that Gazans now have against Israel due to the 7 month war.

https://www.jns.org/gazans-speak-out-hamass-warmongering-keeps-us-oppressed-and-poor/

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-60173481

3. Whether Israel pulled out its settlers due to Hamas or not, means nothing.

What has Hamas done with the pull out? Nothing but warmongering, always fanning the flames of war.

4. Iran is a nuclear power. Iran like Hamas has impoverished its' people. In 1979, Iran was 50% richer per capita income than Turkey, today, it
is the other way around.

All Iran does is to wage trouble. Its people are fed off with the oppressive yoke of the Mullahs who misrule the place and want them gone.

No wonder Iran loves Hamas. They are birds of the same feather. Both are sponsors of hubris.

5. As I said, Israel ain't saints. Its actions in the West Bank leave me miffed. Anyone would.

Is it delusional to think that Palestinian growth is anathema to Israel? There are over 1million Palestinians that call modern Israel home.
Some are soldiers engaged in the present Gaza/Israeli war.

Now, what do you know about Cyprus?

grandstar:


First, my response was directed at Krismass and not you.

I am pro-nobody. Anyone who chooses to be pro-Hamas or pro-Israel is partisan and none can't be partisan regarding this conflict and say they are right. Both sides have their faults.

Those who support Israel shout "kill the terrorists, finish them all" and those who support Hamas "support the shameless genocide of Israelis on October 7."

Hamas has failed Gazans who rather than focus on the economic growth of Gaza prefers to wage war. The treatment of Palestinians in the West Bank is unacceptable.

What is the point of elections in the West Bank? The only real challenger to Fatah is Hamas. Also, Fatah was previously holding elections in both the West Banks and the Gaza strip until Hamas seized full control of Gaza and ended elections.

bizzibodi:

Or palestanians are not Arabs... palestine a name given by d roman to Jewish region to denied them their homeland...who are they who now claim to be palestanians because they are not philistines who inhabited gaza 3000years ago.

Empiree:
He will soon collect from his local politicians and he's gonna be sued. I knew this is how it would end. This was not the first time. This is how Israel has been doing for years since 2005 after withdrawing from Gaza.

He will member be and to destroy Amass of he continued. He would only succeed in liking civilians and infrastructure.

Meanwhile, if they don't deal with the real issue, a new conflict is just pending in the next 2 years. So this ceasefire means a defeat for Israel because Israel did not achieve any military objective.

Righteousness2:
GOD BLESS ISRAEL FOREVER!!
GOD BLESS Netanyahu.

There is a time For Everything under the Earth.
Now is ISRAEL'S time For War.
If they dont War and wipe off their Enemies, the Enemies will Wipe them out.

Go on ISRAEL!!
FINISH THEM !!!

Lol You don't know you are announcing loosing of this war to the world by yourself. Netayahu has been crying for not being able to defeat Hamas by freeing the Hostages!!!!


We tell you Islam will win no matter what. See yourself now......

caleboxylic:


Keep quiet. Do you know how many years it took hamas to construct those tunnels and now, they have lost more territory and their security is in the hands of Israel now.

Righteousness2:
GOD BLESS ISRAEL FOREVER!!
GOD BLESS Netanyahu.

There is a time For Everything under the Earth.
Now is ISRAEL'S time For War.
If they dont War and wipe off their Enemies, the Enemies will Wipe them out.

Go on ISRAEL!!
FINISH THEM !!!

SaLongs1:
Free Palestine and Gaza.... from HAMAS!!

Empiree:
You have already chosen your side buddy without openly saying it lol. Palestinian authority in the West hasn't hold election in years either. So you have no point. What has Iran gotta do with this?. Nigerians are more impoverished than Iranians lol

justmondris:

It's because the West are hypocrites. Israel know that what they are saying in Public is different from their private conversations

Empiree:
It is either you are reading your violent book that you called Bible backward or it is your Bible that is reading you. It is been 8 months and your illegitimate almighty Israel is not defeating a small armed resistance. Don't you have shame?.

And the truth is, it is not only illegitimate Israel that is fighting smaller armed resistance but the entire world powers are behind it with military and financial support. Yet in 8 months and still counting, Israel can not defeat a small resistance. Is it not clear now that your Bible god is coward, powerless and evil for supporting genocide?.

If not for the support from world powers, all the people in Israel would be raising white flags by now and surrendering themselves to the Palestinians.

Shame on you
Shame on Christianity
Shane on pastors
Shame on judeo-christian zionist-terr.orists alliance

You are the TERR.ORISTS in the world. Christianity and Judaism have genocided over 15,000 Palestinian children. What kind of religions are these?.

Run away from Christianity people. It is a violent religion.


Israel can not win this war. Get this in your head.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzgHztUJCyM?si=OwSRPVCWNHDbPhAL

Empiree:
What do you think I am?. A fool?.

The resistance built up Gaza and Gazans are educated. But guess who destroyed everything?. Your buddy, Israel.

What has Gazan's schools, universities, Churches, mosques, historic sites had to do with Amass to be destroyed?. People aren't ready to say the truth. The truth is, Israel does not want Arab neighbors to be educated. Israel wants to control them, keep them poor and subject them to its rules and harsh conditions. If not, what had Gaza's top academics had to do with the war to deserve to be killed?. What had Refaat Alareer had to do with the war for IDF to kill him?. He was writer and a poet. They called him on the phone and told him they know his location and they would strike him and they did last December. This is what Israel has been doing for decades by tracking educated Gazans and Palestinians because they believe that killing educated Palestinians will render Palestinians uneducated= odd jobs=to poverty.

The Bible prophet of Islam, Muhammad(peace be upon him) said:

"Near the establishment of the Hour, there will be the days of Al-Harj, and the religious knowledge will be taken away (vanish i.e. by the death of Religious scholars) and general ignorance will spread." Abu Musa said, "Al-Harj, in the Ethiopian language, means killing," Ibn Mas'ud added: I heard Allah's Apostle saying; (It will be) from among the most wicked people who will be living at the time when the Hour will be established.

Wake up Bros.

Yes West Bank needs election but Israel prevented it by not allowing East Jerusalem to vote and it controls both regions.

Solution?. Those people who called themselves Israelis should return to their countries of origin in Europe. After all, many of them have dual citizenship. If they don't want to leave, them the whole region should be de-apartheid

Empiree:
What do you think I am?. A fool?.

The resistance built up Gaza and Gazans are educated. But guess who destroyed everything?. Your buddy, Israel.

What has Gazan's schools, universities, Churches, mosques, historic sites had to do with Amass to be destroyed?. People aren't ready to say the truth. The truth is, Israel does not want Arab neighbors to be educated. Israel wants to control them, keep them poor and subject them to its rules and harsh conditions. If not, what had Gaza's top academics had to do with the war to deserve to be killed?. What had Refaat Alareer had to do with the war for IDF to kill him?. He was writer and a poet. They called him on the phone and told him they know his location and they would strike him and they did last December. This is what Israel has been doing for decades by tracking educated Gazans and Palestinians because they believe that killing educated Palestinians will render Palestinians uneducated= odd jobs=to poverty.



The Bible prophet of Islam, Muhammad(peace be upon him) said:

"Near the establishment of the Hour, there will be the days of Al-Harj, and the religious knowledge will be taken away (vanish i.e. by the death of Religious scholars) and general ignorance will spread." Abu Musa said, "Al-Harj, in the Ethiopian language, means killing," Ibn Mas'ud added: I heard Allah's Apostle saying; (It will be) from among the most wicked people who will be living at the time when the Hour will be established.

Wake up Bros.

Yes West Bank needs election but Israel prevented it by not allowing East Jerusalem to vote and it controls both regions.

Solution?. Those people who called themselves Israelis should return to their countries of origin in Europe. After all, many of them have dual citizenship. If they don't want to leave, them the whole region should be de-apartheid

grandstar:


Do you expect me to believe you are unaware Ha.mas uses residential and commercial buildings for cover? It uses civilians as human shields!

Empiree:
post your evidence please

Krismas:
Keep in mind, its joe biden, speaking for the government of israel, that is begging hamas for ceasefire. not the other way round.
abi, is it by force to accept ceasefire?
u say israel is winning, kontinue winning na
abi, why all this noise?

grandstar:



https://www.instagram.com/noatishby/reel/Czg096Fryup/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcrWy3PT6zc

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/09/hamas-quietly-admits-it-fired-rockets-from-civilian-areas/380149/

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-admits-to-rocket-fire-from-residential-areas/

Why do you want proof?

ObamaMessi:
I Have to call you a dullard now. Why are Palestinians and all Arab countries crying genocide. Unanever C Anything

caleboxylic:


Keep quiet. Do you know how many years it took hamas to construct those tunnels and now, they have lost more territory and their security is in the hands of Israel now.

Empiree:
Israel was 40 years before H4mas was born and for 76 years it has been building its defense forces made in America.

H4mas on the other hand is only 37 years old and it has been building its defense for just 20 years made in Gaza yet almighty Israel can not defeat small armed group. You should cover your face in shame for defending and supporting criminals. Is it not clear that Jesus is not in their side?.

Lol. The tunnel running through rafah to Egypt is for what? The launchers made in north Korea is for what? Keep deceiving yourself. Hezbollah is for what? Both of them dey collect wotowoto? Your Iran still dey collect till date ! Syria axis Nko! If Egypt do anyhow,been go collect too as dey collected last month ending

Israel is just been precise unlike hamas that attacks indiscriminately.


This ongoing was alone proves that Israel is not the only one fighting the resistance. Isræl is supplied weapons by at least 7 countries. They provided Israel with weapons and logistics but Gaza resistance has no support except from God

Empiree:
Israel was 40 years before H4mas was born and for 76 years it has been building its defense forces made in America.

H4mas on the other hand is only 37 years old and it has been building its defense for just 20 years made in Gaza yet almighty Israel can not defeat small armed group. You should cover your face in shame for defending and supporting criminals. Is it not clear that Jesus is not in their side?.


This ongoing was alone proves that Israel is not the only one fighting the resistance. Isræl is supplied weapons by at least 7 countries. They provided Israel with weapons and logistics but Gaza resistance has no support except from God

ObamaMessi:
I Have to call you a dullard now. Why are Palestinians and all Arab countries crying genocide. Unanever C Anything