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Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by gidgiddy: 12:20pm On Jun 06 |
TimeManager: You are talking about 70 years ago, I am talking about today. Whatever Zik wanted or did not want 70 years ago is not half as important as what millions of people want today 2 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by TimeManager(m): 12:21pm On Jun 06 |
mrvitalis:You can never absolve Zik, he was the leader of NCNC and Eastern region. The british had nothing to do with it, it was entirely Zik's self aggrandizement. -Kiss the truth! 11 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by chinchum(m): 12:23pm On Jun 06 |
AlexBells:could it be that you don't have the intelligence to correctly analyse the circumstances surrounding the wish of Awolowo or you are deliberately twisting facts? Awolowo was not asking for succession, but that a succession clause be added to the constitution. What that would have guaranteed is providing a legal framework for any part of the country to make a case if they strongly want to leave Nigeria. In other words, it could have been enshrined in the constitution how succession can be actualized, possibly through a referendum of the people. It is treason for anyone to simply declare succession, which is what Ojukwu did. Awolowo was the greatest visionary Nigeria ever had. 18 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by AlexBells(m): 12:25pm On Jun 06 |
chinchum:Was that the focus at the moment? And if he want secession why not he go the independence route alone with his region. He was the architect of the unrest’s we are having today. Leave Ojukwu out of this in his case Democracy was already quashed 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Kukutente23: 12:25pm On Jun 06 |
Armaggedon:And what was Zik's response to Biafra 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by JAMO84: 12:29pm On Jun 06 |
Roger3D:I wish he didn't escape 3 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by mrvitalis(m): 12:31pm On Jun 06 |
TimeManager:Obviously you lack basic reading n comprehension |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by chinchum(m): 12:38pm On Jun 06 |
AlexBells:writing gibberish. I believe this is beyond you. Visionary people don't focus on the moment alone, they envision the future 13 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Kukutente23: 12:38pm On Jun 06 |
AlexBells:How did he avoid that with no-secession clause. Your logic is flawed. If there was secession clause, even the Ijaw will stand as a separate nation today 13 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Ndimkpurummiri(m): 12:42pm On Jun 06 |
JAMO84:he did not die well HIV AIDS killed him 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by TimeManager(m): 12:46pm On Jun 06 |
gidgiddy:Today is the consequences of yesterday's decisions. It would be extremely difficult today to introduce such a clause ever again, that opportunity is gone. Zik was the leader of eastern region and NCNC, with selected representatives from his party, they were loud and clear that ibos were opposed to a secession clause and any other person advocating it should be charged for treason. Zik and his caucus were speaking for the ibos. -Kiss the truth! 11 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by AlexBells(m): 12:49pm On Jun 06 |
Kukutente23:An that to you is a definition of a country, I don’t want to waste my time indulging f0ols |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by AlexBells(m): 12:50pm On Jun 06 |
chinchum:That’s why Awo focused on that moment not knowing what secessionist ideology will write into the country, keep living on mirage |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Wahabfuture: 1:00pm On Jun 06 |
How long are we going to continue with this useless blame games, we should be talking about how to divide this country, let everybody go their way, i hate being called a Nigerian 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Kukutente23: 1:02pm On Jun 06 |
AlexBells:What is definition of a country |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Wahabfuture: 1:05pm On Jun 06 |
gidgiddy: Sense no go kill you 2 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Wahabfuture: 1:06pm On Jun 06 |
TimeManager: Can you stop fouling this thread with your demented ignorance!! 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by sharpwriter(m): 1:07pm On Jun 06 |
gidgiddy:You see, not all visions are realistic, some are FANTASIES and ILLUSIONS which deceive, and you see, many number of years, if not a lifetime can be wasted trying to fulfill it, such is the case of Nigeria. |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Wahabfuture: 1:07pm On Jun 06 |
TimeManager: Only a unity beggar will make this kind of comment, spit 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by AlexBells(m): 1:13pm On Jun 06 |
Kukutente23:Check America, China, Russia, Netherlands, even Swiss, see if they throw the words secession around in the constitution. That’s the easiest way to invoke unrest with each region invoking such clause whenever things don’t work their way |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by raskymonojendor: 1:24pm On Jun 06 |
mrvitalis:Zik was an idiot and the major reason we have Nigeria. If he had sided with Awolowo, the British won't have a choice than to include secession clause. 12 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by raskymonojendor: 1:26pm On Jun 06 |
Armaggedon:He wasn't under obligation to do your bidding. You can't stab someone the back twice and expect him to bow to you a 3rd time. Yes twice. 2nd time, Ahmadu Bello was threating to drag the north out of Nigeria if his party did not win and form a government, that crazy Zik as usual left his brothers in the South (Awolowo's Action group party and other southern minority parties), and headed up north to form alliances with Fulani man Ahmadu Bello. Even Kwame Nkrumah was shocked as that was another opportunity to break away from the north but Zik blew it again all for a ceremonial presidential position. Anyway, it's pointless crying over spilled milk. 13 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by raskymonojendor: 1:30pm On Jun 06 |
JAMO84:That's why the coward fled to Ivory coast after slaughtering 3 million of his own people. 8 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by raskymonojendor: 1:31pm On Jun 06 |
smileyoo:100%. He fled to Lagos. And was even using his influence to stop foreign supporters backing Ojukwu to back off. He called Biafrian soldiers "rebels". 8 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by gidgiddy: 1:32pm On Jun 06 |
TimeManager: And if the British had not forced us together, nobody would be talking about any clause. As Africans, we have to be very stupid to need secession clause to go our seperate ways. The white man brought us together, but we need secession clause before we can go our seperate ways? And if no secession clause, we will and kill our selves to keep a country created by the white man It is shameful on our part as Africans 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by raskymonojendor: 1:33pm On Jun 06 |
gidgiddy:100% 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by smileyoo: 1:44pm On Jun 06 |
raskymonojendor:The so-called zik of Africa was a very useless leader to us, even to the point of being a liability to us, because i learned that some foreign powers wanted to support the Biafra struggle and demanded zik's opinion before doing so, but the clueless zik of Africa downplay the Biafra struggle, as just a few ambitious rebels deceiving the people of the eastern region, that he stood for one Nigeria. 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by blacknp(m): 1:45pm On Jun 06 |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Kukutente23: 1:49pm On Jun 06 |
AlexBells:Not true. Secession is allowed in the UK that colonised us. States in the US freely joined the Union and were aware that there's no clause for breaking up. However, the USSC has given guidelines for secession. Switzerland has a form of secession in its law and France outrightly has one. Having secession can lead to instability in the state I agree. But with every secession clause also comes a clause for joining back. Even China had a secession clause as at then. The point being made is that Awolowo saw the imperfections of Nigeria as a country and advocated the secession clause to guard against the tendency of maximalist among the regions. 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by raskymonojendor: 1:50pm On Jun 06 |
smileyoo:I am sure if there was indeed an afterlife, he is currently regretting his actions. Even the British cannot form a country with their cousins French and Germany. Look at how they finished themselves in WW1 & WW2. That should have been a good example for Zik. USSR 's secession clause as predicted by Awolowo ensured the country disintegrated when needed. Estonians, Lithuanians, Latvians e.t.c are happier being outside Russia. Oh well. It's late for that now. The Nigerian tribes are now only united in looting 8 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by T9ksy(m): 2:05pm On Jun 06 |
raskymonojendor: Haba! That was a bit below the belt o! Am sure, certified members of this exclusive group (idiots), will gladly and unambiguously, reject his membership application form. 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by leokid866: 2:07pm On Jun 06 |
JAMO84:...... |
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