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Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Bitterkola100: 8:41pm On Jun 06 |
hegelian:stop trolling that man. We are in democracy, to each tbeir choice. You respond to every of his post as if you are paid to do so. You no get work abi na to dey troll agbado fc be your own work? 5 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Wahabfuture: 8:56pm On Jun 06 |
Kukutente23: I said, we have the right to vote since we are still part of Nigeria, i speak with my people everyday, the people you claimed they are being forced to sit at home are not even up to 10% What is my business with Peter Obi ambition of becoming Nigeria president, how many vote did he got in the East during last election considering our population, I've never vote before, i don't even know how our voters card look like, I'm not interested in who benefit and who does not benefit in one Nigeria, this country was never designed to work, our differences is too much. i see it as a waste of time of everybody |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Kukutente23: 9:08pm On Jun 06 |
DMerciful:Nobody is absolving him of anything Your trying to hang things that were never his fault on him is the point 2 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by hegelian: 9:19pm On Jun 06 |
Bitterkola100:My job is that enemy of the country called Helinues.. I will follow him everywhere and expose him for who he is.. He is an enemy of the country and every enemy of our nation should be exposed and shamed.. He derive pleasure in seeing people suffer, you will see him subtly throwing jabs at the very people the government is oppressing.. 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Armaggedon: 9:26pm On Jun 06 |
Raf4:but he was civilian enough to join gowon to fight Biafra. Always giving senseless excuse like fools you guys are. |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Kukutente23: 9:30pm On Jun 06 |
Wahabfuture:Nobody said you don't have the right to vote. The East had the highest turnout of votes to registered ratio. It shows that the igbo are also politically invested in Nigeria. You can't use your prejudices to describe how other igbos view the Nigerian question. Nigeria was designed to work. It is those who were expected to make it work that failed to do so of which Zik was a prominent actor 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Bitterkola100: 9:40pm On Jun 06 |
hegelian:ah, central defender of nigeria, i hail o. Keep wasting yoir time trolling someone thay doesn't have your time. 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by hegelian: 9:49pm On Jun 06 |
Bitterkola100: oh ok this is another of your moniker....you went to activate it.. we can see through you oga ade |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by engrchykae(m): 10:31pm On Jun 06 |
BlowYourMind:Zik already knows what the British wants. He knows the British are merely pretending to be debating about independence. He knew the British are ready to kill in millions if they are to lose Nigeria completely. But Zik is not my hero. On the other hand,awolowo had opportunity to walk his talk but ran to gowon 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by engrchykae(m): 10:36pm On Jun 06 |
Zik knew awolowo very well When ojukwu walked awolowo's talk, awolowo negotiated ojukwu away. Bastard awolowo 2 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Wahabfuture: 10:38pm On Jun 06 |
Kukutente23: I answered the question you asked me in your last post, south east doesn't turn out during election day because everybody knew that Nigeria is scam and it will never work, they obtain those voters cards mainly for other purposes such as opening bank accounts and other things, what have we achieved as a Country since our independent ? i mean one single thing, Awolowo is nothing but a senseless bigot and a useless strategist of starvation just to win a war, feel good to know he died of Ratak aka Otapiapia, Awolowo is not a man enough |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Wahabfuture: 10:41pm On Jun 06 |
engrchykae: Awolowo deserve more than ratak poison, i wish i could wake him up right now and give him double dose of Ratak |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Babinski: 10:57pm On Jun 06 |
gidgiddy: When Isaac Adaka Boro, an Ijaw activist questioned the ideals of the January 1966 and subsequently declared Niger Delta Republic for the Ijaws to secession from Nigeria, it was Ironsi and Ojukwu that truncated the secession attempt and arrested Boro and his group for treason. Surprisingly, a little more than a year later, the same Ojukwu declared secession of Biafra Republic which even more surprising included the region of Niger Delta and Ijaws in the new republic. While a casual observer may think that Ironsi and Ojukwu truly believed in One Nigeria, the truth is that they believed the "Igbo Coup of January 1966" had put Nigeria in the hands of Igbos and they didn't want anyone to rock the boat. In fact the Igbos chose that moment under Ironsi to destroy the Federalism in favour of Unitary government with their kin in the saddle. Unfortunately when things turned around with a counter-coup and reprisals, the same people who turned Nigeria to a Unitary Government made a volte face to declare secession in the name of Biafra Republic. And yet someone will say these are honourable men and the ideals of Biafra are borne out of sincerity? Common!!! 7 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Uchek(m): 11:32pm On Jun 06 |
You hit the nail on the head? Armaggedon: |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Uchek(m): 11:36pm On Jun 06 |
Absolutely right. He could have maintained a NEUTRAL STANCE and allow North & East to settle their political score. But he joined his enemy, Arewa North, to fight East just because Gowon “promised” him post-Biafra Nigeria presidency. DMerciful: 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Uchek(m): 11:39pm On Jun 06 |
Please how did Zik steal NCNC from Macauley? This is the first time l am hearing this. Substantiate your claim or withdraw it because it is a big LIE — capital LIE! confusedlady: |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by whitejs: 11:54pm On Jun 06 |
LifestyleTonite:my pt |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by johntolu: 12:12am On Jun 07 |
Kukutente23: He acted as a traitor, by taking sides with a Northerner, Yakubu Gowon. Shame! 2 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Kukutente23: 12:31am On Jun 07 |
Wahabfuture:East had the highest voter turnout to voter register in the last elections Nigeria achieved largest economy in Africa, most populous black nation, 25 years of democracy, biggest oil exporter etc Awolowo was not senseless If he was, he would have been the mugu for the north that Zik became You can't blame him for helping a side he chose on a war. It's a normal thing. Stop taking things personal. Awolowo died at 78 years while Ojuku died at 69. Considering who lived longer, I think it's easy to spot who could have taken ratak after suffering from the ghost of Biafra he never got. Rest!! 6 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Ofodirinwa: 12:52am On Jun 07 |
Armaggedon: Yorubas get called snakes for this but I'm realizing it's just a part of their culture. Yoruba people believe in doing and believing in everything at once while Igbo people believe in all or nothing on beliefs. I'm not necessarily saying one is better than the other. Yoruba people believe in having one foot in everything so that whatever works or wins, you can be a part of it. They're not idealists or ideological. A single Yoruba man will go to Mosque church and shrine 'just in case'. They will put the eba in the soup and serve them in the same bowl, they will be pro-separation and pro-unity at the same time. Even in family and relationships, they do not want to be on the potentially sinking boat. What is important to them is waiting to see which one wins and not being fully committed to the losing end. Some Yoruba fathers will have a child who they will not see their entire life, but once that child becomes successful, they will be fully in that person's life. This confuses a lot of non-Yoruba people and of course these are extremes that I'm talking about. Igbo people tend to believe in jurisdiction or have a strong commitment to the idea of everything having it's own place and everyone having their own calling. So if you're a christian, you're 100%, if you're into business 100%, if you're married, 100%, etc. Igbo people only support things they want to support whether or not it has the highest odds of winning. At the same time, they don't support things that are impractical and are slow to give support unless a very strong argument is used to persuade them that is rooted in reality. So like Yoruba people they're not ideological, but if they decide to commit to an idea they were 100% in because they have seen that it's the best possible choice. Their believe is whether it sinks or swims they'll be ok, and it's up to them to make sure is swims. Yoruba people tend to believe they can contribute to something sinking or swimming but external factors that are not in their control will also have say. Again, when Igbo people serve food, the garri and the soup have their own bowls. These small cultural details tell you a lot on how people operate. So Awolowo, link most yoruba politicians, are pro-everything and anti-everything at the same time. Whereas Zik was committed to Zikism and Nigeria even to the point of it ruining his political career, ruining his support among his people, and for the majority of a genocide against Igbos. I'm not writing this to be disrespectful, I used to think Yoruba people were just 'wishy washy' but I'm seeing that in their culture, they would rather survive that have 'their way'. 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Kukutente23: 1:06am On Jun 07 |
Wahabfuture:What will you now give ojuku who ran away after leading your forefathers like rams to the slaughter 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Kukutente23: 1:08am On Jun 07 |
Armaggedon:You are filled with falsehood. Browse countries with secession clause and you'll see even France there. Stop telling lies to bury your head like an ostrich 3 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Kukutente23: 1:14am On Jun 07 |
Ofodirinwa:Lol. You guys and delusions. Zik was against secession. Then he was pro-Biafra. Then he was anti-Biafra even calling Biafran soldiers rebels. Ojuku was a Nigerian soldier who fought to keep Nigeria one. Then he fought to separate Nigeria, then he ran away, then he ran back, then he contested to lead Nigeria, then he died a Nigerian. Igbos were pro-Biafra. Then the zoo must fall. Then a new Nigeria is possible. Where is the consistency in all the above? You guys enjoy self-delusion that's why you believed Kanu will give you Biafra from UK As for igbo being Christian 100%, can you explain the character called indaboski bahose. Is he a Christian or a comedian or a charlatan? 11 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by johntolu: 1:28am On Jun 07 |
Kukutente23: Azikwe was a 'Northerner' by birth and he probably assumed that the NCNC will be able to dominate and control the government in comparison to an alliance with an Action Group party that was filled with experienced politicians from Southern Nigeria. Things fell apart between Azikwe and his 'Hausa-Fulani' brothers, when the Great Sardauna decided they have had enough of Azikwe and his cohorts and decided to settle for an alliance with SL Akintola, a Yoruba man. |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Peterobiisathie(f): 2:24am On Jun 07 |
Kukutente23:off your 🎙 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by gidgiddy: 6:16am On Jun 07 |
Babinski: And after writting all this, you people still don't understand it is time for everyone to get referendum and decide theur membership of Nigeria that the British forced everyone into? |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by gidgiddy: 6:18am On Jun 07 |
Kukutente23: Nigeria is world poverty capital and 8th most insecure country on earth, it is a failed country that should be dissolved Correction, Ojukwu died aged 79 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Peterobiisathie(f): 6:54am On Jun 07 |
gidgiddy:what has Senators under Labour Party done about your Biafra? 3 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by gidgiddy: 7:04am On Jun 07 |
Peterobiisathie: If you did not need senators to create Nigeria, you don't need senators to dissolve Nigeria, its called referendum |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Peterobiisathie(f): 7:23am On Jun 07 |
gidgiddy:What have you done with the one conducted by Simon Ekpa? 3 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by engrchykae(m): 8:18am On Jun 07 |
Wahabfuture:a useless man who said that "Nigeria is a mere geographic expression" Just turned around and shouted"I am irrevocably on the side of one Nigeria" Because he was made finance Minister. A man who had ambition to be prime Minister was happy to be finance Minister of an illiterate soldier. Awolowo is a fool |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by GeneralPula: 8:34am On Jun 07 |
smileyoo:Even his passion was never for any Nigeria unity brother. His passion was for power. One Nigeria nah hin form of campaign. It’s all politics.. He wanted power so bad but lacked the vision and tactics. He was also a coward. The north saw his desperation for power and took advantage of him. I’m busy now but I’ll come back to write more later.. Zik abi Sink was a total mistake and calamity. 2 Likes |
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