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Re: Atiku: How I Saved Tinubu’s Political Career by shonepa(m): 9:05am On Jun 10
Everything about Tinubu is propaganda, why?

Obi, Atiku.... re dey all not the same. Please dont come here and act as if one person is better than the other. Happy u based in Lagos, u re entitled to ur opinion on Tinubu.

I was based in Anambra during Obi's Tenure, the man gas nothing to offer abeg, talkless of governing a country.

Lets be guided, we can do better than those criminals.

Eriokanmi:
You can say that again. My love for Nigeria is indescribable but I'm sad with what I'm seeing today. The majority of those tribalists here on NL have not done half of what I had done for my people in donations through my partners in Lagos alone. I don't have to mention one. Unfortunately, this generation of youths are so glued to sentiments which always inform their weird decisions 99% of the time, which would later haunt them in life. Presently I'm in America for another batch of donations to the less privileged in the society, especially in Lagos where I belong. There's one of our partners who is into sports, grooming young Nigerians across tribal lines on how they'd find their place at the global stage , through scholarships and all.

But I chose not to support this man called Tinubu for a lot of reasons. Those living here, who used to be his supporters are so disappointed right now but I told them last year during my visit that it's not enough to rely on propaganda. They need to come and see things themselves at home. Had either fashola, ambode or even osinbajo contested, I'd have supported him with my might and main. The moment I realised this man wanted to get there both by hook and crook, I decided to back off and then I suddenly became an omo ale to the tribal bigots who share in his fake ideology...Tinubu knows the number of his children, wondering how I can be an omo ale by not supporting him. Democracy is a choice but not in Nigeria.

Yoruba would say, ęję ka tibi ishana kiye soogun(which literally means, we should observe the efficacy of a charm by just imagining how the matches ignite, when you strike it) . You said you're Mr magic who built Lagos yet you lost in same Lagos. The 2023 election ought to have been a means of reciprocating your kind gesture in Lagos if you truly deserved our votes. Instead, you started intimidating people with your thugs cos they didnt vote you. Some myopic minds said he lost in lagos cos of the Muslim Muslim ticket however, in alimosho, the largest local government in Nigeria by population and where yorubas constitute over 95% of the population whom are both Muslims and Christian massively voted a non-lagosian was a proof he's not what he's claiming to be..

When they realised that the muslim-muslim ticket they claimed didn't hold water, they now said its ibo votes that made him lose lagos. It's ibo votes but yorubas won the LP seats in Lagos where ibos live...imagine how myopic they are in thinking. 2023 is just a tip of the iceberg. I pray we all witness 2027 in peace. I reserve my comment on Northern votes for the apc.

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Re: Atiku: How I Saved Tinubu’s Political Career by shinealight(m): 9:18am On Jun 10
Kukutente23:

OBJ was never accepted yet 5 out of 6 states turned from AD to OBJ's PDP. How old were you in 2003? OBJ was massively popular in the SW in 2003. He even did radio interviews in Yoruba towards 2003 elections.
It is funny folks like you will believe Tinubu made Buhari president despite Buhari coming out to deny it
Folks like you will believe Tinubu saved this and that without any evidence but when it is said that Tinubu was saved by someone else, you suddenly turn on LOGIC and begin to rationalise and ask for evidence.
The fact is this is not the first time Atiku said this. He said same thing towards 2023 elections when Tinubu claimed he supported him for 2007 elections and it is time for Atiku to return the favour. So if you can believe Tinubu, why do you find it difficult to believe Atiku but instead start manufacturing lies in your head? Western asslicker

My friend, let me repeat this for the last time…..OBJ was NEVER popular in the South-West during his entire Presidency ….he was imposed on the entire country in 1999. Anyone with a sense of history will tell you that! undecided
Btw, since you talked about age, I can already surmise that you were not even born when OBJ was imposed on Nigeria in 1999. So, I can only feel some pity for you bcuz that’s the story they related to you during your story-telling gatherings in your villages. Waste of precious time discussing this with people who were in kindergarten at the maternal time! cool

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Re: Atiku: How I Saved Tinubu’s Political Career by seunjungle1(m): 9:30am On Jun 10
Who goofed between Atiku boy and the vice President? What can Atiku show to us on how he saved Asiwaju political carrier....
Was it his intervention on how obj stopped the Lagos State monthly allocation? I don't know how Atiku can explained to us that he really saved Asiwaju political carrier because somebody like me still remember vividly on Jagaban saved Atiku from obj bad treatment back then.
AC, ACN parties was metamorphosed from Action Democracy which was a regional party. How come that Atiku have shares in this if not because of the so called Asiwaju influence that helped him out.

Atiku no get point on this.
Re: Atiku: How I Saved Tinubu’s Political Career by MIKOLOWISKA: 9:35am On Jun 10
Eriokanmi:
You can say that again. My love for Nigeria is indescribable but I'm sad with what I'm seeing today. The majority of those tribalists here on NL have not done half of what I had done for my people in donations through my partners in Lagos alone. I don't have to mention one.

Yes you do otherwise we don't believe you


Unfortunately, this generation of youths are so glued to sentiments which always inform their weird decisions 99% of the time, which would later haunt them in life.

Newsflash
Politics is a function of sentiment


Presently I'm in America for another batch of donations to the less privileged in the society, especially in Lagos where I belong. There's one of our partners who is into sports, grooming young Nigerians across tribal lines on how they'd find their place at the global stage , through scholarships and all.

But I chose not to support this man called Tinubu for a lot of reasons. Those living here, who used to be his supporters are so disappointed right now but I told them last year during my visit that it's not enough to rely on propaganda. They need to come and see things themselves at home. Had either fashola, ambode or even osinbajo contested, I'd have supported him with my might and main. The moment I realised this man wanted to get there both by hook and crook, I decided to back off and then I suddenly became an omo ale to the tribal bigots who share in his fake ideology...Tinubu knows the number of his children, wondering how I can be an omo ale by not supporting him. Democracy is a choice but not in Nigeria.

You lost
He win
You win by hook or crook not half effort



Yoruba would say, ęję ka tibi ishana kiye soogun(which literally means, we should observe the efficacy of a charm by just imagining how the matches ignite, when you strike it) . You said you're Mr magic who built Lagos yet you lost in same Lagos.

But he win in other places
Need more than Lagos to win
This why you lose


The 2023 election ought to have been a means of reciprocating your kind gesture in Lagos if you truly deserved our votes. Instead, you started intimidating people with your thugs cos they didnt vote you. Some myopic minds said he lost in lagos cos of the Muslim Muslim ticket however, in alimosho, the largest local government in Nigeria by population and where yorubas constitute over 95% of the population whom are both Muslims and Christian massively voted a non-lagosian was a proof he's not what he's claiming to be..

So
Thought you guys said they don't vote for outsiders
Shows tolerance unlike other states and tribes



When they realised that the muslim-muslim ticket they claimed didn't hold water, they now said its ibo votes that made him lose lagos. It's ibo votes but yorubas won the LP seats in Lagos where ibos live...imagine how myopic they are in thinking. 2023 is just a tip of the iceberg. I pray we all witness 2027 in peace. I reserve my comment on Northern votes for the apc.
Re: Atiku: How I Saved Tinubu’s Political Career by Kukutente23: 9:39am On Jun 10
shinealight:


My friend, let me repeat this for the last time…..OBJ was NEVER popular in the South-West during his entire Presidency ….he was imposed on the entire country in 1999. Anyone with a sense of history will tell you that! undecided
Btw, since you talked about age, I can already surmise that you were not even born when OBJ was imposed on Nigeria in 1999. So, I can only feel some pity for you bcuz that’s the story they related to you during your story-telling gatherings in your villages. Waste of precious time discussing this with people who were in kindergarten at the maternal time! cool
My friend that your bolded is a cheap lie. OBJ was popular in the SW between towards 2003 at least. You are simply a kid. I was in secondary school in Lagos when he was president and not once or twice did he come to Lagos and receive a rousing welcome from people. I first saw him on Falomo bridge in 2001 when he was passing by and people were hailing him. You can tell me where you were in 2001. So stop regurgitating APC propaganda.
Secondly, OBJ was not more imposed on Nigeria than Tinubu. Both were voted massively by the north. That OBJ was not voted by the SW in his first term does not make him an imposition. You sound like those Obidients you guys like to malign. They will also tell you Tinubu was imposed on Nigeria in 2023 simply because he lost Lagos, Abuja, rigged Rivers and lost throughout the SE. That is someone talking from his narrow prism of experience. OBJ won in 1999. He won ALL the states in the North while his opponent was not even known in the North then. Funny enough you guys claim Obi lost because he lost the North but you somehow believe Falae won in 1999 despite losing woefully in same North. Rest

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Re: Atiku: How I Saved Tinubu’s Political Career by phemray(m): 9:50am On Jun 10
ijustdey:


https://dailytrust.com/atiku-how-i-saved-tinubus-political-career/?utm_source=beloud.com&utm_medium=beloud.com

Action congress was southwest party after AD was scattered. There were a lot of other smaller parties in the north. So, which one belongs to Atiku and why can't he fly his presidential ambition through his party. Can you say today that Asiwaju becomes president on another person's party? Mergers are ok but decamping is completely different. He (jagaban) said it during campaign that he gave his party platform to Atiku to contest.
Re: Atiku: How I Saved Tinubu’s Political Career by 12345baba(m): 10:25am On Jun 10
Atiku u did nothing for ur state Adamawa, wtf do u think u can offer nigeria?
Re: Atiku: How I Saved Tinubu’s Political Career by shinealight(m): 10:50am On Jun 10
Kukutente23:

My friend that your bolded is a cheap lie. OBJ was popular in the SW between towards 2003 at least. You are simply a kid. I was in secondary school in Lagos when he was president and not once or twice did he come to Lagos and receive a rousing welcome from people. I first saw him on Falomo bridge in 2001 when he was passing by and people were hailing him. You can tell me where you were in 2001. So stop regurgitating APC propaganda.
Secondly, OBJ was not more imposed on Nigeria than Tinubu. Both were voted massively by the north. That OBJ was not voted by the SW in his first term does not make him an imposition. You sound like those Obidients you guys like to malign. They will also tell you Tinubu was imposed on Nigeria in 2023 simply because he lost Lagos, Abuja, rigged Rivers and lost throughout the SE. That is someone talking from his narrow prism of experience. OBJ won in 1999. He won ALL the states in the North while his opponent was not even known in the North then. Funny enough you guys claim Obi lost because he lost the North but you somehow believe Falae won in 1999 despite losing woefully in same North. Rest

That bolded part of your post tells a lot about YOU and your infantile reasoning. I don’t waste my time with people who get their information from second-hand story-telling sources. When you post in a public forum, be very careful before bragging about anything….because you KNOW NOT who you talk to. Goodbye! cool
Re: Atiku: How I Saved Tinubu’s Political Career by femtex007(m): 1:26pm On Jun 10
Jostoman:
he is saying the fact.
Ok
Re: Atiku: How I Saved Tinubu’s Political Career by sangresan(m): 1:37pm On Jun 10
Atiku no get sense. Why you no save your own political career?
Re: Atiku: How I Saved Tinubu’s Political Career by Konquest: 5:03pm On Jun 10
Eriokanmi:
You can say that again. My love for Nigeria is indescribable but I'm sad with what I'm seeing today. The majority of those tribalists here on NL have not done half of what I had done for my people in donations through my partners in Lagos alone. I don't have to mention one. Unfortunately, this generation of youths are so glued to sentiments which always inform their weird decisions 99% of the time, which would later haunt them in life. Presently I'm in America for another batch of donations to the less privileged in the society, especially in Lagos where I belong. There's one of our partners who is into sports, grooming young Nigerians across tribal lines on how they'd find their place at the global stage, through scholarships and all.

But I chose not to support this man called Tinubu for a lot of reasons. Those living here, who used to be his supporters are so disappointed right now but I told them last year during my visit that it's not enough to rely on propaganda. They need to come and see things themselves at home. Had either fashola, ambode or even osinbajo contested, I'd have supported him with my might and main. The moment I realised this man wanted to get there both by hook and crook, I decided to back off and then I suddenly became an omo ale to the tribal bigots who share in his fake ideology...Tinubu knows the number of his children, wondering how I can be an omo ale by not supporting him. Democracy is a choice but not in Nigeria.

Yoruba would say, ęję ka tibi ishana kiye soogun(which literally means, we should observe the efficacy of a charm by just imagining how the matches ignite, when you strike it) . You said you're Mr magic who built Lagos yet you lost in same Lagos. The 2023 election ought to have been a means of reciprocating your kind gesture in Lagos if you truly deserved our votes. Instead, you started intimidating people with your thugs cos they didnt vote you. Some myopic minds said he lost in lagos cos of the Muslim Muslim ticket however, in alimosho, the largest local government in Nigeria by population and where yorubas constitute over 95% of the population whom are both Muslims and Christian massively voted a non-lagosian was a proof he's not what he's claiming to be..

When they realised that the muslim-muslim ticket they claimed didn't hold water, they now said its ibo votes that made him lose lagos. It's ibo votes but yorubas won the LP seats in Lagos where ibos live...imagine how myopic they are in thinking. 2023 is just a tip of the iceberg. I pray we all witness 2027 in peace. I reserve my comment on Northern votes for the apc.
@Eriokanmi,

How's it going? I want you to read this feedback to the end. Tbh, while constructive criticism is a vital aspect for giving positive feedbacks, the only thing I'm beginning to get irritated with some of your posts is your tendency to get into hyper criticisms and behave in a self-righteous manner by attacking the man who is now the current President of Nigeria. It's a fact that it was the foresight and master plan put in place by that man called Bola Tinubu that made it possible for the Lekki Free Trade Zone (LFTZ), the new Lekki Deep Seaport, the Dangote Petrochemical Refinery at the LFTZ and more Industries to come on stream as of today. I'm not his biggest fan because of some of his annoying gentlemanly actions (with regards to not dealing with his public image that has been hugely dented by online criminal defamations and propaganda) but I will NOT join dishonest folks to say he didn't do anything in Lagos State. He and his lieutenants from Babatunde Fasola, Akinwunmi Ambode, Babajide Sanwo-Olu, and more, are indeed the architects of the renewal of modern Lagos State that had been left abandoned after the brutal military dictatorships and in a very deplorable state of infrastructural decay when he became a Governor in 1999. The rebuilding and gentrification of Broad Street on Lagos Island and other CBD areas, and the push back of the raging Atlantic Ocean water surges that had overwhelmed Victoria Island and parts of Lekki with the construction of Eko Atlantic City put a stop to the total disappearance of Victoria Island (Iruland) from the face of the earth. I still remember even back in the very early 1980s, the beachfront was far away from the Modupe Osikoya Street and Ahmadu Bello Way axes bordering the Bar Beach. Even the financial sagacity he brought in to increasing the Lagos IGR from a couple of millions to the billions (N600 million to N5 billion monthly during his administration as Governor of the State from 1999 to 2007) that it is today is commendable and his knack for choosing technocrats to work with him in government being a technocrat and former Senior Treasurer of Mobil Nigeria (now ExxonMobil) is commendable.

You've been sounding like a broken record with your consistent jabs at him and it's been a long time that you've not liked him. It didn't start during the last Presidential election cycle. You did say that your father is from Edo and your mother is Yoruba and I'm wondering if that is responsible for your resentful posts towards your mother's ethnic people in your posts as well?

I remember you also once complained in your post during the last election cycle that you were denied bursary when you applied for it during Tinubu's Governorship years and you didn't hide that fact online. This indeed is part of why you don't like him and more.

Whatever the reason, as best as you can, just forgive him and every other person who may have offended you covertly and overtly. I think you feel hurt badly and disappointed over the sequence of events over the years.

Remember you and your family survived COVID-19 which you shared here last month on a thread and it was a HIGHLY moving testimonial as a survivor during those lockdowns. I hardly ever respond to your posts whenever you get riled up, but I have to do this here. I believe looking at some of the indices that things will look up with Dangote Refinery PMS coming on stream in June and the CNG refill station deployments which would lead to a lower cost of production and more.

Tbh, some of the headwinds we are hearing and reading about coming out of Nigeria in terms of hyperinflation are not the best, and Diasporan Nigerians and Nigerian folks aren't happy at the turn of events, but I have seen some indices that things will pan out right from this June.


Enjoy the rest of your work week.
Re: Atiku: How I Saved Tinubu’s Political Career by Konquest: 5:06pm On Jun 10
membranus:


Oga, remove the logs from your eyes, and for once be true to yourself. Go through all your posts on Nairaland and your diatribes, your insults, your curses, your hateful comments against the Yoruba race and their son Tinubu, who will then believe your assertion that you are not an Igbo man and a core TRIBALIST at that. Yoruba so wipe ile lati ko eso rode, but with you it is the opposite.

Not every Yoruba man loves Tinubu as a politician, because all politicians are thieves. But a Yoruba adage says " Omo eni ki ise idi bebere ka wa fi ileke si idi omo elomiran". Tinubu has proved himself in Lagos before where he is still a political colossus, and out of all the 3 candidates that contested, he was the best. So if he is facing governance and economical problems on this bigger platform called Nigeria, the problems are not of his own making, he met them there, he is just trying to find solutions, which are becoming more difficult everyday. The governors, and all other political actors at all levels are not also helping him because they have different greedy agendas apart from the ones he hold. And unlike Lagos, he has little control over them. The Boko Haram, the F00lani and IP0B insurgents and the crude oil thieves at the creeks are also compounding the problems. Yes we in Nigeria are all suffering from the huge hyperinflation ravaging the country, especially in food prices, but since we cannot force him out until his terminal date, let us give him a little time more to find additional means of ending these sufferings. And if he fails after 4 years, we will vote him out if we find a more intelligent savior.

Therefore #Eriokanmi, instead of always execrating him and all Yoruba race with him on Nairaland, rather pity him, since you cannot do better than him if you are there.
He once stated here on NL that his father is from Edo State while his mother is Yoruba. He said so himself in some of his posts. I wonder if that is what is responsible for his consistent attacks on this man... A case of self-hate of his own mother's people or something. He's annoyingly sounding like a broken record with his self-righteousness tbh.

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Re: Atiku: How I Saved Tinubu’s Political Career by Eriokanmi: 5:36pm On Jun 10
Konquest:

He once stated here on NL that his father is from Edo State while his mother is Yoruba. He said so himself in some of his posts. I wonder if that is what is responsible for his consistent attacks on this man... A case of self-hate of his own mother's people or something. He's annoying sounding like a broken record with his self-righteousness tbh.

Point of correction. I'm not attacking anyone. I don't like Tinubu's ideologies, same way as millions of lagosians who didn't vote him. As you can see, I'm not one of those whose sources are not known. Where's Tinubu from, can you tell cos he's not part of us in lagos. He's denying everything.He adopted that name, not his real name. Shame on all those claiming to be omoluabi but still following such a controversial man like him.

My dad is from a yoruba town in edo state, same way the likes of dino melaye, smart adeyeni etc are yorubas from yoruba towns in kogi state. So, I'm yoruba not bini man. I'm not hiding my identity. We bear yorubas names and speak only yoruba called akoko dialect, same as akungba and ikare akoko dialect. I'm lagosian by birth and origin while my mum is lagosian. Dad was born in lagos but chose to align with edo. That's my genealogy my friend. I'm more lagosian than tinubu, sanwoolu and his deputy. We know their roots.

Finally, democracy is a choice. You claim I keep attacking your mentor when you guys are also guilty of same offence by constantly attacking Obi, my candidate. It's normal in democracy so, respect my choice.

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Re: Atiku: How I Saved Tinubu’s Political Career by Eriokanmi: 5:44pm On Jun 10
MIKOLOWISKA:


Yes you do otherwise we don't believe you




Newsflash
Politics is a function of sentiment




You lost
He win
You win by hook or crook not half effort




But he win in other places
Need more than Lagos to win
This why you lose




So
Thought you guys said they don't vote for outsiders
Shows tolerance unlike other states and tribes


Who are the "we" in your We dont believe you ?
Re: Atiku: How I Saved Tinubu’s Political Career by Konquest: 6:38pm On Jun 10
Eriokanmi:
Point of correction. I'm not attacking anyone. I don't like Tinubu's ideologies, same way as millions of lagosians who didn't vote him. As you can see, I'm not one of those whose sources are not known. Where's Tinubu from, can you tell cos he's not part of us in lagos. He's denying everything.He adopted that name, not his real name. Shame on all those claiming to be omoluabi but still following such a controversial man like him.

My dad is from a yoruba town in edo state, same way the likes of dino melaye, smart adeyeni etc are yorubas from yoruba towns in kogi state. So, I'm yoruba not bini man. I'm not hiding my identity. We bear yorubas names and speak only yoruba called akoko dialect, same as akungba and ikare akoko dialect. I'm lagosian by birth and origin while my mum is lagosian. Dad was born in lagos but chose to align with edo. That's my genealogy my friend. I'm more lagosian than tinubu, sanwoolu and his deputy. We know their roots.

Finally, democracy is a choice. You claim I keep attacking your mentor when you guys are also guilty of same offence by constantly attacking Obi, my candidate. It's normal in democracy so, respect my choice.
@Eriokanmi,

I just saw your mention and didn't realize you had made this post here. I only got to read it after posting the real NL feedback which I just sent to you right NOW. Tinubu ain't my mentor and I'm not his biggest fan... As a Diasporan, I've never met him in my over 5 decades on earth. I sent you a positive feedback so that some self-reflections can take place here for the good of all.

I'm getting to understand some of your insightful perspectives in this post of yours. A few Edo-born folks online were saying that NO Yoruba community exists in the Akoko Edo area of Edo and there was this back-and-forth here in the Culture section of NL. But here you have confirmed that your town is one. A guy here claimed that his own folks in Akoko Edo are related to the Ebiras, so, it's clear that Akoko Edo is NOT monolithic in ethnic origins.

I do know of the people of Usen and Egbeta (near Benin) who clearly identify with their Ile Ife ancestries and Yoruba roots though they are bilingual and speak their dialect of Yoruba and Bini languages. Olumide Akpata is said to have his paternal roots linked to the Ogbebor family of Usen, though his paternal side migrated to Benin. Usen was founded by Oranmiyan's older brother who came from Ife (Ufe) with Oranmiyan, who then moved from Usen on his way to Igodomigo (the Benin area) to found the Oranmiyan dynasty as the first Oba.


Cheers.
Re: Atiku: How I Saved Tinubu’s Political Career by Kindledlight(m): 8:54pm On Jun 10
BabaO2:

He is seriously worried and disturbed, that is low self esteem.
Nothing different how APC and AC were created, of course, fringe political parties were accommodated, same way some of you were bragging and claiming right to be next presidential candidate to buhari because not only ACN and CPC formed APC, but when the chips were down what happened? pls be realistist rather than being a feeble minded person.
obasanjo's case is the easiest to talk about. Put fake accolades and undeserved embellishments spearhead by obasanjo beneficiaries aside, obasanjo himself knew he wasn't in-charge of presidency from 1999 to 2003, he was a mere coronated president, buildup to his 2nd term, he was prostrating and begging with his balls in his hands to people he could father e.g orji uzor kalu, samething he did in sw, where he had no votes in his first term, same way he was prostrating and begging atiku and northerners, atiku was eventually persuaded upon by Northern power brokers, same model was used in the sw, he pleaded to avoid shame of his claimed yoruba tribe not voting for him, leopard never changes his color, a natural greedy man he is, he outsmarted all the yoruba governors that promised to give him all their votes for his presidency while they will maintain their governorships, the only sw governor that outsmarted him was Tinubu and Lagos, reason why he is always bitter at Tinubu to date. obasanjo himself knows he has no power and brain to confront Tinubu up to date.
You have just taught that fellow supporting Atiku blindly the history of what happened.
I hope the guy can just read and understand very well and stop disgracing himself with all those distorted stories Atiku is sharing.
Kudos to you👍.
Re: Atiku: How I Saved Tinubu’s Political Career by Pickup8: 9:24pm On Jun 10
Atiku is the worst politician Nigeria ever produced. He has never been on the ladder of the smallest truth in life but always goof his mouth.
Re: Atiku: How I Saved Tinubu’s Political Career by Eriokanmi: 4:32am On Jun 11
Konquest:

@Eriokanmi,

I just saw your mention and didn't realize you had made this post here. I only got to read it after posting the real NL feedback which I just sent to you right NOW. Tinubu ain't my mentor and I'm not his biggest fan... As a Diasporan, I've never met him in my over 5 decades on earth. I sent you a positive feedback so that some self-reflections can take place here for the good of all.

I'm getting to understand some of your insightful perspectives in this post of yours. A few Edo-born folks online were saying that NO Yoruba community exists in the Akoko Edo area of Edo and there was this back-and-forth here in the Culture section of NL. But here you have confirmed that your town is one. A guy here claimed that his own folks in Akoko Edo are related to the Ebiras, so, it's clear that Akoko Edo is NOT monolithic in ethnic origins.

I do know of the people of Usen and Egbeta (near Benin) who clearly identify with their Ile Ife ancestries and Yoruba roots though they are bilingual and speak their dialect of Yoruba and Bini languages. Olumide Akpata is said to have his paternal roots linked to the Ogbebor family of Usen, though his paternal side migrated to Benin. Usen was founded by Oranmiyan's older brother who came from Ife (Ufe) with Oranmiyan, who then moved from Usen on his way to Igodomigo (the Benin area) to found the Oranmiyan dynasty as the first Oba.


Cheers.
A large percentage of Akoko Edo LGA towns speaks yoruba. Some have their dialects in addition while some others speak only yoruba. They're not part of the Oranmiyan brouhaha. They migrated from aloko and other parts of ondo state to settle in that place many centuries ago. Some towns that are supposed to be part of ondo were merged with edo due to state creation and boundary formation.

For instance, my town fell on the edo side cos of the river Osę, which was the boundary landmark between ondo and edo states. Otherwise, it would have been inside ondo state and once you cross that river, you're in edo state and vice versa. We have such in all states.

Ikpoba oha people speak yoruba like locals. They moderated from ondo state as well. They're not inside Akoko edo. They're very close to Benin. The Ebiras founded a town called igarra which is the HQ of Akoko Edo LGA. It's also called Etuno.

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Re: Atiku: How I Saved Tinubu’s Political Career by Kindledlight(m): 7:34am On Jun 11
Kukutente23:

My friend that your bolded is a cheap lie. OBJ was popular in the SW between towards 2003 at least. You are simply a kid. I was in secondary school in Lagos when he was president and not once or twice did he come to Lagos and receive a rousing welcome from people. I first saw him on Falomo bridge in 2001 when he was passing by and people were hailing him. You can tell me where you were in 2001. So stop regurgitating APC propaganda.
Secondly, OBJ was not more imposed on Nigeria than Tinubu. Both were voted massively by the north. That OBJ was not voted by the SW in his first term does not make him an imposition. You sound like those Obidients you guys like to malign. They will also tell you Tinubu was imposed on Nigeria in 2023 simply because he lost Lagos, Abuja, rigged Rivers and lost throughout the SE. That is someone talking from his narrow prism of experience. OBJ won in 1999. He won ALL the states in the North while his opponent was not even known in the North then. Funny enough you guys claim Obi lost because he lost the North but you somehow believe Falae won in 1999 despite losing woefully in same North. Rest

Oga Obj was a compensation because of Abiola death.

You people should stop saying what you don’t know, it’s very annoying even after the he corrections.
Re: Atiku: How I Saved Tinubu’s Political Career by Kukutente23: 8:37am On Jun 11
Kindledlight:


Oga Obj was a compensation because of Abiola death.

You people should stop saying what you don’t know, it’s very annoying even after the he corrections.
What point are you making? I don't see any here
Re: Atiku: How I Saved Tinubu’s Political Career by IfnobeGod20: 9:18pm On Jun 11
shinealight:


Meandering?
Someone you claim was inconsequential in the politics of the South West in 2007, yet he carried the entire South West to abandon the party they had nortured for years and MERGE it with another group to form a most viable RULING party for eight years AND COUNTING…..
You shouldn’t need a story-teller like Atiku to convince you about who had the political wherewithal to move the political machinery of the South-West even back in 2006/7 because it was the turn of the North to produce a President.
Atiku can tell his stories to the Marines for all I care! Discerning individuals are in no doubt as to who helped whom!cool
I have told you to stop meandering. Atiku is talking about 2007 but you're here talking about 2014. Some of you don't even know what they are arguing about. As at 2007, it was AC but the one you're mentioning and those he moved to form APC are from ACN. Know the difference.
The question now, some are saying Tinubu saved or helped Atiku but Atiku is saying he helped Tinubu and he went ahead to reeled out how they formed AC and those that formed it. You people should try and understand topic, this is how some of you fail exam. Mingling 2007 with 2014, you're lost.
Re: Atiku: How I Saved Tinubu’s Political Career by shinealight(m): 9:30pm On Jun 11
IfnobeGod20:

I have told you to stop meandering. Atiku is talking about 2007 but you're here talking about 2014. Some of you don't even know what they are arguing about. As at 2007, it was AC but the one you're mentioning and those he moved to form APC are from ACN. Know the difference.
The question now, some are saying Tinubu saved or helped Atiku but Atiku is saying he helped Tinubu and he went ahead to reeled out how they formed AC and those that formed it. You people should try and understand topic, this is how some of you fail exam. Mingling 2007 with 2014, you're lost.

Sorry I don’t discuss serious issues with kindergarten dullards! cool cool
Re: Atiku: How I Saved Tinubu’s Political Career by IfnobeGod20: 9:43pm On Jun 11
BabaO2:

He is seriously worried and disturbed, that is low self esteem.
Nothing different how APC and AC were created, of course, fringe political parties were accommodated, same way some of you were bragging and claiming right to be next presidential candidate to buhari because not only ACN and CPC formed APC, but when the chips were down what happened? pls be realistist rather than being a feeble minded person.
obasanjo's case is the easiest to talk about. Put fake accolades and undeserved embellishments spearhead by obasanjo beneficiaries aside, obasanjo himself knew he wasn't in-charge of presidency from 1999 to 2003, he was a mere coronated president, buildup to his 2nd term, he was prostrating and begging with his balls in his hands to people he could father e.g orji uzor kalu, samething he did in sw, where he had no votes in his first term, same way he was prostrating and begging atiku and northerners, atiku was eventually persuaded upon by Northern power brokers, same model was used in the sw, he pleaded to avoid shame of his claimed yoruba tribe not voting for him, leopard never changes his color, a natural greedy man he is, he outsmarted all the yoruba governors that promised to give him all their votes for his presidency while they will maintain their governorships, the only sw governor that outsmarted him was Tinubu and Lagos, reason why he is always bitter at Tinubu to date. obasanjo himself knows he has no power and brain to confront Tinubu up to date.
Since you guys like going off point. The issue in discourse is about Tinubu and Atiku but you myopically brought in OBJ to the narrative but with that I will school you small.
You claimed OBJ have no power to confront Tinubu but I put it to you that the respect and command OBJ has in this nation and beyond, Tinubu doesn't have one quarter of it. It's only OBJ in this country that will go to NE, NW, SS, SE and talk and they will heed to his talk because of the respect they have for him. Please aside the SW, which region can Tinubu cough even with the power of presidency and they will listen to him? OBJ is the only living Nigerian that the world still respect till date and you have the audacity to vomit that OBJ doesn't have power to confront Tinubu, Kain. Do you think we are talking of Agberos and thugs issue here? How would someone with his right sense compare OBJ's recognition with Tinubu local champion?
No doubt OBJ never played his politics well, as he was traveling up and down in his first term and left Atiku to control governance and he almost hijacked the government from him and before he realized time had gone but at that he still maneuvered himself.
Now, give it to Atiku and OBJ, if they are the type that played dirty politics like Tinubu, he would not have survived the political onslaught on him, because it was easier then to do that than now. Also appreciate someone like Osinbajo that was doing the underground work for Tinubu and doesn't allow clipping of his wings then by the then Presidency.
Besides, learn to stay within discourse and stop jumping like toad. Issue in discourse is between Atiku and Tinubu and not OBJ.
Re: Atiku: How I Saved Tinubu’s Political Career by IfnobeGod20: 9:45pm On Jun 11
shinealight:


Sorry I don’t discuss serious issues with kindergarten dullards! cool cool
Sorry, I school political neophyte like you that always mix up issues.
Re: Atiku: How I Saved Tinubu’s Political Career by Konquest: 10:52pm On Jun 11
Eriokanmi:
A large percentage of Akoko Edo LGA towns speak yoruba. Some have their dialects in addition while some others speak only yoruba. They're not part of the Oranmiyan brouhaha. They migrated from aloko and other parts of ondo state to settle in that place many centuries ago. Some towns that are supposed to be part of ondo were merged with edo due to state creation and boundary formation.

For instance, my town fell on the edo side cos of the river Osę, which was the boundary landmark between ondo and edo states. Otherwise, it would have been inside ondo state and once you cross that river, you're in edo state and vice versa. We have such in all states.

Ikpoba what people speak yoruba like locals. They moderated from ondo state as well. They're not inside Akoko edo. They're very close to Benin. The Ebiras founded a town called igarra which is the HQ of Akoko Edo LGA. It's also called Etuno.
@Eriokanmi,

That's awesome! Thanks for the deep insights here. Indeed, the dude that vehemently said that no Yoruba communties exist in Akoko Edo is from the Igarra axis and alluded to his Ebira (Etuno) connection, but some other folks took him on and started listing names of some Yoruba towns for him with YouTube videos of Yoruba folks speaking dialects from those Edo communties around the Ose River which you spoke about. The uploaded videos are still here on NL.

I remember a guy from Usen in Ovia South West LGA of Edo State posted here on NL during the COVID-19 lockdowns that his people wanted a boundary adjustment to move to Ondo State but the Oba of Benin had been blocking the move. They greet one another there in Usen with the salutation "Delauhe," meaning "How is Ife (Uhe)" emphasizing their Ile-Ife origins going back to the era of Oranmiyan's older brother. Infact Usen High Chiefs play a strong role during the coronation ceremony of every Oba of Benin. In Benin, the YouTube video interview that I watched indicated that the Benin royal family descendants greet one another with the salutation "L'mogun" which is a reference to the Yoruba deity Ogun, the God of war and iron.

I appreciate your insights here.


All the best!

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Re: Atiku: How I Saved Tinubu’s Political Career by MIKOLOWISKA: 5:26am On Jun 12
Eriokanmi:
Who are the "we" in your We dont believe you ?
The 100 million of us going through it
Your love for Nigeria is not self evident
It's by mouth only

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