engrelvis:
Maybe am not getting sometin right. Why will Dof be in charge of recruiting players? That shud be the duty of a coach.Better still they can work together to achieve a common goal. Also lf ETH fuk up tomoro there will be no excuses.

Jamiuokolla:


Unfortunately, this isn't what we are talking about in the UTD context...

If you check Patrick's post, he clearly stated that the DoF should sign players who are best fit for the pattern of play the club adopts... apparently for continuity and sustainability. In this regard it is the manager that has to "adapt", and not the other way round. With this, we can also assume that the DoF would literally be the one to also "pick" the coach that would be best suited to the club's football philosophy.

I actually agree that the DoF should identify and maybe recommend players to the manager....at least for a club that is still struggling to get back to its glory days...However, for the purpose of accountability, the gaffer's voice should still carry more weight -we all know who gets the heat when things go south

eph12:

No the gaffer voice should not carry more weight. The coach is supposed to understand how the club wants to play and decide whether to accept or reject the contract

Jamiuokolla:


Unfortunately, this isn't what we are talking about in the UTD context...

If you check Patrick's post, he clearly stated that the DoF should sign players who are best fit for the pattern of play the club adopts... apparently for continuity and sustainability. In this regard it is the manager that has to "adapt", and not the other way round. With this, we can also assume that the DoF would literally be the one to also "pick" the coach that would be best suited to the club's football philosophy.

I actually agree that the DoF should identify and maybe recommend players to the manager....at least for a club that is still struggling to get back to its glory days...However, for the purpose of accountability, the gaffer's voice should still carry more weight -we all know who gets the heat when things go south

eph12:

It should be a joint responsibility.

MRTA7:


Pep has always credited the recruitment team at City for the signings even though he gets all the credit. He does not identify the players he will be consulted of course.

“The most important department is the scouting department, much more than manager and players,” he said. “When Txiki Begiristain and [others] choose well, 80% is done. When they don’t, you spend a lot of time and energy [trying to redress this]. That’s my feeling.”

Ilkay Gündogan, another brought in under Begiristain, has impressed in the holding role this season with Rodri injured and Fernandinho having to cover in central defence. The German did likewise towards the end of last season and Guardiola admitted to being wrong about Gündogan’s ability to operate there.

Jamiuokolla:


Lool

The same scouting department that also wasted significant amount of money on bums like Kalvin Philips, Graelish etc is now the next best thing after sliced bread because Pep has decided to "romance" their ego?

Baba - there's no way we gonna downplay the importance of a manager at a football club.

MRTA7:


Pep has always credited the recruitment team at City for the signings even though he gets all the credit. He does not identify the players he will be consulted of course.

“The most important department is the scouting department, much more than manager and players,” he said. “When Txiki Begiristain and [others] choose well, 80% is done. When they don’t, you spend a lot of time and energy [trying to redress this]. That’s my feeling.”

Ilkay Gündogan, another brought in under Begiristain, has impressed in the holding role this season with Rodri injured and Fernandinho having to cover in central defence. The German did likewise towards the end of last season and Guardiola admitted to being wrong about Gündogan’s ability to operate there.

eph12:

So they listed all the things the manager needs to be focused on, and it still looks like downplay to you? Issokay

Jamiuokolla:


Lool

The same scouting department that also wasted significant amount of money on bums like Kalvin Philips, Graelish etc is now the next best thing after sliced bread because Pep has decided to "romance" their ego?

Baba - there's no way we gonna downplay the importance of a manager at a football club.

Jamiuokolla:


Which thing is that?

Them say the city's scouting department is "near perfection" and I humbly pointed out numerous bums that the same department has wasted huge amounts of money on

MRTA7:


I dont think we're having the same conversation. I posted that to show Pep is not wholly responsible for City's signings as he has said numerous. If that's to romance their ego that is your opinion and that's fine. I dont have an opinion on that and dont care. City have had their misses too like everyone. if you want to credit him for good signings you also credit him for the Kalvin Philips as well.

MRTA7:

Klopp famously did not want Salah and had to be convinced and they veto'd his preferred option of Brandt over Salah. Its part of the reason Klopp and Michael Edwards fell out and Edwards left the club but now returned after Klopp announced his departure.

engrelvis:
Maybe am not getting sometin right. Why will Dof be in charge of recruiting players? That shud be the duty of a coach.Better still they can work together to achieve a common goal. Also lf ETH fuk up tomoro there will be no excuses.

CrystalTiger:
So Pep might be getting Bruno Guimaraes from Newcastle 😕😕..

Jamiuokolla:


Which thing is that?

Them say the city's scouting department is "near perfection" and I humbly pointed out numerous bums that the same department has wasted huge amounts of money on

akwesenana:
Ten Hag & Sancho truth revealed! 🧨
What really happened between Erik ten Hag and Jadon Sancho? “Before Arsenal game in September, during a training session, Jadon Sancho did not commit to pressing as an opposition player in the practice match in the way Erik ten Hag wanted”, says Laurie Whithwell.
“Sancho was offered the chance to end his involvement early, which he took by walking off the pitch — this is why Ten Hag referenced his training levels in that famous interview”, reported on The Athletic.
“After Erik Ten Hag’s second game at United, away to Brentford, Sancho told Ten Hag that United had bought the wrong player [him] because he prefers to play on the left, rather than the right. This is why Ten Hag decided to sign Antony in the remaining days of the transfer market”.

akwesenana:
Ten Hag & Sancho truth revealed! 🧨
What really happened between Erik ten Hag and Jadon Sancho? “Before Arsenal game in September, during a training session, Jadon Sancho did not commit to pressing as an opposition player in the practice match in the way Erik ten Hag wanted”, says Laurie Whithwell.
“Sancho was offered the chance to end his involvement early, which he took by walking off the pitch — this is why Ten Hag referenced his training levels in that famous interview”, reported on The Athletic.
“After Erik Ten Hag’s second game at United, away to Brentford, Sancho told Ten Hag that United had bought the wrong player [him] because he prefers to play on the left, rather than the right. This is why Ten Hag decided to sign Antony in the remaining days of the transfer market”.

Jamiuokolla:


I understand but how would the issue of DoF getting Bums be addressed?

If the new DoF is also a lover of serial wánkers like Antony, wetin go happen?

TrebleChamp:
It is finished.....

akwesenana:
Ten Hag & Sancho truth revealed! 🧨
What really happened between Erik ten Hag and Jadon Sancho? “Before Arsenal game in September, during a training session, Jadon Sancho did not commit to pressing as an opposition player in the practice match in the way Erik ten Hag wanted”, says Laurie Whithwell.
“Sancho was offered the chance to end his involvement early, which he took by walking off the pitch — this is why Ten Hag referenced his training levels in that famous interview”, reported on The Athletic.
“After Erik Ten Hag’s second game at United, away to Brentford, Sancho told Ten Hag that United had bought the wrong player [him] because he prefers to play on the left, rather than the right. This is why Ten Hag decided to sign Antony in the remaining days of the transfer market”.

maik99:


Even the most accomplished football administrator once bought a team of Galacticos that won next to nothing

Ellexy:
Ten Hag continued to instruct for a higher starting line so that his team could squeeze the play in the final third. It was the blueprint mapped out by the #mufc hierarchy. But the team would drop deeper than Ten Hag intended, leaving large spaces in midfield.

[@lauriewhitwell]

KingTom:

🤔 Hmmmmm

Ellexy:
#mufc's opening bid for Jarrad Branthwaite is £35 million. Everton view the bid as unacceptable and are expected to reject it in due course.

[@David_Ornstein]

Very good opening offer.

Ellexy:
Ten Hag continued to instruct for a higher starting line so that his team could squeeze the play in the final third. It was the blueprint mapped out by the #mufc hierarchy. But the team would drop deeper than Ten Hag intended, leaving large spaces in midfield.

[@lauriewhitwell]

Ellexy:
Have you seen what your ídolo Mourinho said about who's the goat?