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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:40pm On Jun 14
Aemmyjah:

How many years did Jehovah say that his people will be in captivity? 70 years or 50 years?
Which one should a Christian accept? That of 70 years leading to 607BCE (which is a conclusion based on the Bible prophecy) or from secular historians whose data is not always accurate?
Even if all the historians points to a date that contradict what Bible points me to, I will still choose the Bible. Let God be true and men be found a liar

If you're telling them they will prefer secular historians and archeologists to Bible writers, the same historians and archeologists that don't acknowledge the New Testament writers! smiley
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by achorladey: 7:42pm On Jun 14
MaxInDHouse:


You don't have to give yourself HBP on this matter it's either you accept or reject it.
Thanks for commenting! smiley

😂🤣😂🤣

You don't have to add your HBP peddlings about it. He didn't say anything concerning such. Just face the discussion. I know the stage where your own words rendered the whole topic useless and confirms na la cram la pour. Deep down you know 1914 has nothing to do with the Bible grin grin grin
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by achorladey: 7:56pm On Jun 14
Aemmyjah:



Everything is based on prophecy in the Bible
Like a jigsaw puzzle, we bring them together and get a clear picture

It is based on the tree image of Nebuchadnezzar's dream which has 2 fulfillment, the initial relating to Nebuchadnezzar and the final relating to God's representative rulership
Ezekiel also adds to it when he says that the turban will be removed from the king until it comes to it rightful owner
Jesus himself also adds to the prophecies when he talked about when the appointed time of the nations will be fulfilled

Through Daniel prophecy, it has pointed us to the time when the Messiah will appear - 29CE (now secular history says 26CE but jesus ministry was 3 and hakf years ans Bible chronology and history poimta to 33CE as his year of death so 29CE is more accurate). I can also do the same calculation of the appearing of the Messiah using same Bible methods which led us to 1914 as Jesus rule. So Bible has helped us to see when the Messiah appear which is 29CE and it has also helped us get to see when Jesus began to rule. Let's us not forget that 1914 is a significant year in world history and what Jesus prophecied about the time of the end began then as well as John Revelation vision in Revelation 6


The Jews were released from Babylonian captivity as Jehovah promised
As Jehovah also foretold, they would spend 70 years as captives in the land so 537- 70 years leads to 607 BCE. A Bible believer will accept that or resort to history. If I want to rely on history, I can as well believe that Moses, Pharaoh, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joshua conquest of Canaan, Davod and Goliath, Tower of Babel, Joseph of Egypt never existed and the Exodus never happened or the plagues cos the ancient Egyptians who were meticulous in their history has not shown any such proof.
So when you think u can shame us by choosing side of history when we support God's word, remember that history itself can make u think that many people and events and places in the Bible never happened

So rest

This one no even understand the question they ask am. Just as you were busy manipulating how to calculate anniversaries and date of birth grin grin grin

If I want to rely on history, I can as well believe that Moses, Pharaoh, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joshua conquest of Canaan, Davod and Goliath, Tower of Babel, Joseph of Egypt never existed and the Exodus never happened or the plagues cos the ancient Egyptians who were meticulous in their history has not shown any such proof.

Weak attempt to seek sympathy that those dates in the first instance are not supported from the Bible.
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by oteneaaron(m): 12:02am On Jun 15
MaxInDHouse:


587 B.C.E. is an error by historians but they're not ready to accept the correction because it's coming from JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

Is the above statement factual?

Do you have evidence prove that historians and archeologists who use scientific methodologies are all wrong?

I asked Google Gemini AI tool and this is what it clearly stated -

"No, the statement is not factual. Historians generally agree that 587 BCE is the most likely year for the destruction of the First Temple in Jerusalem. There are several lines of evidence that support this date, including Babylonian chronicles and biblical texts.

While there are some minority viewpoints on the exact date, the vast majority of historians accept 587 BCE. The scholarly community is open to new evidence and differing interpretations, but there's no indication that they're rejecting a correction simply because it comes from Jehovah's Witnesses."

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by oteneaaron(m): 12:08am On Jun 15
oteneaaron:


Is the above statement factual?

Do you have evidence prove that historians and archeologists who use scientific methodologies are all wrong?

I asked Google Gemini AI tool and this is what it clearly stated -

"No, the statement is not factual. Historians generally agree that 587 BCE is the most likely year for the destruction of the First Temple in Jerusalem. There are several lines of evidence that support this date, including Babylonian chronicles and biblical texts.

While there are some minority viewpoints on the exact date, the vast majority of historians accept 587 BCE. The scholarly community is open to new evidence and differing interpretations, but there's no indication that they're rejecting a correction simply because it comes from Jehovah's Witnesses."



MaxInDHouse:


587 B.C.E. is an error by historians but they're not ready to accept the correction because it's coming from JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

I was still curious, so I asked the AI another question -

Can you show me the biblical text that proves 587BCE as right?

Here was the answer -

"The Bible itself doesn't provide a definitive date for the fall of Jerusalem. However, several biblical passages are consistent with the 587 BCE date established through historical records.

Here's an example:

2 Kings 25:8-9 (NIV) describes the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar breaching the walls of Jerusalem and burning the temple "in the eleventh year of Zedekiah king of Judah, on the tenth day of the tenth month."

This passage aligns with Babylonian chronicles that mention the capture of Jerusalem in Nebuchadnezzar's 7th regnal year. Since Babylonian kings typically ascended the throne in the spring, this would correspond to the late fall or winter of 588 BCE.

Adding a year to account for the difference between Babylonian and Judean regnal years points to 587 BCE.

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:27am On Jun 15
oteneaaron:

Is the above statement factual?

Your own case is SETTLED!

You're an atheist who doesn't believe anything found written in the Bible so your opinion here is worthless.

However thanks for commenting! smiley

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:31am On Jun 15
achorladey:

Deep down you know 1914 has nothing to do with the Bible

Why not speak for yourself nah? cheesy

You came to argue then you wanted to speak in behalf of everyone out there as if you have concluded for them and worse still you want to speak for me again.

Haba na so you be? cheesy
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by achorladey: 4:50am On Jun 15
MaxInDHouse:


Why not speak for yourself nah? cheesy

You came to argue then you wanted to speak in behalf of everyone out there as if you have concluded for them and worse still you want to speak for me again.

Haba na so you be? cheesy

Looool!

Why not speak for yourself nah?

I am speaking for MaxInDHouse. Achorladey = MaxInDHouse grin grin grin

You came to argue then you wanted to speak in behalf of everyone out there as if you have concluded for them and worse still you want to speak for me again.

I don add am to my note that I came to argue. I know you are not speaking for me but only drawing conclusions about what I have come to do here grin grin grin

Achorladey is not = behalf of everyone and I am not concluding anything on behalf of anyone. Deflection and diversion na part of your strategy. When I said.....

Deep down you know 1914 has nothing to do with the Bible

It is my own conclusion drawn from the discussion with you about 1914 not speaking for you grin grin grin

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by achorladey: 5:00am On Jun 15
MaxInDHouse:


Your own case is SETTLED!

You're an atheist who doesn't believe anything found written in the Bible so your opinion here is worthless.

However thanks for commenting! smiley


Looool grin grin grin

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by Edybleketara: 5:14am On Jun 15
MaxInDHouse:


Your own case is SETTLED!

You're an atheist who doesn't believe anything found written in the Bible so your opinion here is worthless.

However thanks for commenting! smiley

Just say you can't answer his question, otherwise you'd have focused on the message rather than the messenger.

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by oteneaaron(m): 7:15am On Jun 15
MaxInDHouse:


Your own case is SETTLED!

You're an atheist who doesn't believe anything found written in the Bible so your opinion here is worthless.

However thanks for commenting! smiley


Loooool

E pain the guy!

Since you're the owner of Nairaland why don't you just delete my comment?

There is no need for the name calling - you know that I'm not an atheist.

😁😁😁

You're entire faith is based on 1914 and this has been proven to be a big fat LIE.

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by oteneaaron(m): 7:28am On Jun 15
Edybleketara:
Just say you can't answer his question, otherwise you'd have focused on the message rather than the messenger.

Hahahahahahaha

The foundation of his entire religion and faith is based on 1914.

Without the doctrine of 1914, the entire JW religion is utterly destoyed.

Their religion claims that after Jesus came back in 1914 and "started ruling in heaven", he chose their religion in 1919 as "the only true religion".

But 1914 is a LIE - which means that 1919 is even a bigger LIE.

No 1914, no 1919 - it is that simple.

Jerusalem was not destroyed in 607 BCE and this is a FACT.

No matter how many names he calls me, in fact even if he calls me a pagan, it doesn't change the fact that Jerusalem was not destroyed in 607 BCE!

FACTS don't LIE.

QED.

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:30am On Jun 15
Edybleketara:

Just say you can't answer his question, otherwise you'd have focused on the message rather than the messenger.

If someone is of the opinion that the Bible was fabricated and that he doesn't need it would you waste your precious time arguing with him on what the books in the Bible say?

Well there is no benefit in such discussion since he has sealed his mind that the book was fabricated.
God, Moses, Jesus and everything mentioned in the Bible makes no sense to him so what are you going to say to such a person when discussing how God's word is undergoing fulfilment? smiley
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:37am On Jun 15
oteneaaron:

Without the doctrine of 1914, the entire JW religion is utterly destoyed.

What is not destroyed in your own perception?

God, Moses, Jesus and Bible which of these do you have something tangible to talk about other than everything is false?

I went through the profile of Edybleketara and i've found something that shows he doesn't care whatever the Bible says so there's no need arguing with him!

Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:04am On Jun 15
Before the year 1914 there were few religions globally in fact the recognized religions were less than 40 throughout the earth but after that year only one religion (Christianity) began increasing speed in denominations and today there are over 41,000 different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming they're Christians!

Before that year there were no records of men or women performing miracles up and down apart from what was recorded in the Bible but after the year 1914 Nigeria alone has recorded over 100 miracle workers all claiming they're for Christ yet they have continued to contradict themselves in teachings and doctrines!

Before the year 1914 the world's political system has been relatively stable with just nations having regional disputes as a result of land grabbing but after that year countries far away from one another started having issues when they don't even share the same boarder!

Before the year 1914 the world's economy is stable as production of food and other things necessary for human survival was the priority of 99% of rulers in all lands but after that year rulers in all the earth have spent billions of dollars amassing destructive devices and maintaining a large number of able bodied men and women who are only trained to kill their fellow humans so agriculture suffers due to neglect from world leaders and famine which supposed to be as a result of infertility of the soil grew speedily throughout the earth causing inflation globally.

WHY did all these happened after the year 1914?

We Jesus said by the time he begins ruling from heaven WARS will break out throughout the earth {Matthew 24:7} because his first assignment as God's chosen king is to drive away Satan and demons from heaven and their next destination will be planet earth {Revelations 12:7-12} demons are rebellious angels so by the time they bombard the earth with rage they will possess human rulers in all the earth so you can see what led to the first world war in the year 1914!


False Prophets will multiply speedily because there will be confusion globally so many people will like to consult spiritualists on what lies ahead and since God's work is all about gathering faithful and obedient mankind for their salvation who will anxious people turn to?
YES you guess right! The agents of Satan!
So demons gave many different powers peculiar to what the people in different regions makes their priority!
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by oteneaaron(m): 8:16am On Jun 15
MaxInDHouse:


What is not destroyed in your own perception?

God, Moses, Jesus and Bible which of these do you have something tangible to talk about other than everything is false?

I went through the profile of Edybleketara and i've found something that shows he doesn't care whatever the Bible says so there's no need arguing with him!

Hahahahahahahaha

Mr profile checker!

Jerusalem was NOT destroyed in 607 BCE!

The entire foundation of your religion is based on 1914.

Without 607 BCE there would be no 1914 and without 1914, your religion ceases to exist - this is a FACT.

The Governing Body has deceived you.

😁😁😁

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by oteneaaron(m): 8:18am On Jun 15
MaxInDHouse:
[s]Before the year 1914 there were few religions globally in fact the recognized religions were less than 40 throughout the earth but after that year only one religion (Christianity) began increasing speed in denominations and today there are over 41,000 different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming they're Christians!

Before that year there were no records of men or women performing miracles up and down apart from what was recorded in the Bible but after the year 1914 Nigeria alone has recorded over 100 miracle workers all claiming they're for Christ yet they have continued to contradict themselves in teachings and doctrines!

Before the year 1914 the world's political system has been relatively stable with just nations having regional disputes as a result of land grabbing but after that year countries far away from one another started having issues when they don't even share the same boarder!

Before the year 1914 the world's economy is stable as production of food and other things necessary for human survival was the priority of 99% of rulers in all lands but after that year rulers in all the earth have spent billions of dollars amassing destructive devices and maintaining a large number of able bodied men and women who are only trained to kill their fellow humans so agriculture suffers due to neglect from world leaders and famine which supposed to be as a result of infertility of the soil grew speedily throughout the earth causing inflation globally.

WHY did all these happened after the year 1914?

We Jesus said by the time he begins ruling from heaven WARS will break out throughout the earth {Matthew 24:7} because his first assignment as God's chosen king is to drive away Satan and demons from heaven and their next destination will be planet earth {Revelations 12:7-12} demons are rebellious angels so by the time they bombard the earth with rage they will possess human rulers in all the earth so you can see what led to the first world war in the year 1914!


False Prophets will multiply speedily because there will be confusion globally so many people will like to consult spiritualists on what lies ahead and since God's work is all about gathering faithful and obedient mankind for their salvation who will anxious people turn to?
YES you guess right! The agents of Satan!
So demons gave many different powers peculiar to what the people in different regions makes their priority![/s]

We don't need all these long stories.

😂😂😂

Without 607 BCE there would be no 1914 and without 1914, your religion ceases to exist - this is a FACT.

Spin it all you want.

Jerusalem was destroyed 587 BCE - you can never hide this indisputable FACT.

FACTS don't LIE.

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:25am On Jun 15
Before the year 1914 there was no single religion practicing what Jesus taught because Satan and his demons have established their own agents who have dominated all the earth claiming they are Christians no wonder Jesus said by the time he returns to inspect how his disciples are doing globally Christianity would have been turned to something totally different from what he commissioned! Luke 18:8

So it was after the year 1914 that Jesus through the Holy Spirit searched throughout the earth and found only one group thoroughly making research as to how Christianity should be this group was known back then as the International Bible Students Association led by a man called Pastor Charles Taze Russell, only this group was willing back then to make amendments in their teachings unlike all other established religions that were dragging supremacy among themselves in the field of politics.
So Jesus began correcting the International Bible Students and instantly they started making amendments in their beliefs and their mode of operations but instead of most people to reason on the new development they were mocking the group saying they are confused.
Well Jesus continue directing this group on what they should do next but when Satan got to know that Jesus is working with the Bible students he jumped into action just as he did in the first century and all the leaders of this group were arrested and sent to prison.
What will Jesus do now that his new found friends have been silenced?
Well Jesus fought back and three years later the leaders of the International Bible Students Association were released in the year 1919 it was a big shock to the world as this little group went into action and started gathering people throughout the earth from that year making them zealous preachers and industrious teachers of God's word!
So they began preaching and teaching from house to house and door to door just as Jesus commissioned his disciples back in the first century from that year they didn't stop the work of going from house to house and door to door throughout the until a century later when a pandemic broke out in the year 2019
So this group didn't stop their work but kept on working throughout the earth with zeal from 1919-2019 because of COVID-19 well i strongly believe it was a divine warning that Jesus' disciples have been around gathering faithful and obedient humans throughout the earth for 100 years in the last days! Malachi 3:16
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:39am On Jun 15
With all these events taking turns rebellious humans are busy fighting and killing one another because of politics {Revelations 6:3-4} as many strongly believe it's a way out of their suffering perhaps if they should appoint a good ruler so what should sincere and honest hearted individuals do?

Jesus said:

But as these things start to occur, stand up straight and lift up your heads, because your deliverance is getting near.” Luke 21:28

So if you're reading this today you have three options:

[1] Welcome Jesus' true disciples in your home and start a Bible study to know what you must do to be part of those who will surely survive the end of this wicked system of things! Matthew 24:14

[2] Put up an argument to prove you're not convinced! Mark 9:14

[3] Ignore and continue with your pursuit in life! Luke 17:26-30

May you have PEACE! smiley
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by Emusan(m): 9:09am On Jun 15
MaxInDHouse:
You don't have to give yourself HBP on this matter it's either you accept or reject it.
Thanks for commenting! smiley

So I should take you serious over archeological evidence.

The fact that you can't provide a single scholar who agreed with you on this speaks a volume.

Well, if it's not giving you HPB you won't open this thread in the first place.

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by Emusan(m): 9:33am On Jun 15
Aemmyjah:
The Jews were released from Babylonian captivity as Jehovah promised
As Jehovah also foretold, they would spend 70 years as captives in the land so 537- 70 years leads to 607 BCE.

So where did you get the 537BC from?

A. Bible
B. Archeologist
3. Watchtower publication

A Bible believer will accept that or resort to history.

A Bible believer will accept both Bible and archeological evidence because they never contradict.

The funny thing is, you people thought there's no explanation for the 70 years by historians but the truth is Watchtower decided to ignored those explanation because it contradicted 1914.

Yes! In case you don't know the 70 years was also explained by the historians.

Definitely, you're ignorant of this!

If I want to rely on history, I can as well believe that Moses, Pharaoh, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joshua conquest of Canaan, Davod and Goliath, Tower of Babel, Joseph of Egypt never existed and the Exodus never happened or the plagues cos the ancient Egyptians who were meticulous in their history has not shown any such proof.

Stop lying just to please your gods in Warwick.

We have archeological evidence for David existence and more were still been unearthed.

So when you think u can shame us by choosing side of history

Here come the victim mentality.

Did watchtower not chose the side of history by agreed with the year 537BC?

So because 1914 never had any archeological support we should just agree with watchtower simply because they said so.

Is that how you become a graduate in science?

when we support God's word,

Not blindly.

Then you will see the lies of watchtower trying being sold to you.

Do your research and see how the historians explain the 70 years.

Stop watchtower deception of we are following God's word

remember that history itself can make u think that many people and events and places in the Bible never happened

So rest

Not when archeological evidence involved.

Do you think the year we are talking about is just an historians research work?

O ma se ooo

Again, there is an ARCHEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE THAT SUPPORT 587BC do you know what that means?

Continue to be restless with the truth.

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:03am On Jun 15
Emusan:

The fact that you can't provide a single scholar who agreed with you on this speaks a volume.

Just provide a single historian outside Jesus' friends who agree that what is written in the New Testament is true! smiley
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by Emusan(m): 10:09am On Jun 15
MaxInDHouse:
Just provide a single historian outside Jesus' friends who agree that what is written in the New Testament is true! smiley

There is Josephus and Tacitus.

So can you provide just one scholar who supported the destruction of Jerusalem as the year 607BC?

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:15am On Jun 15
Emusan:

There is Josephus and Tacitus.

Please provide what these people said about Jesus and try to correlate with what his friends penned down about him! cheesy
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by Emusan(m): 10:19am On Jun 15
MaxInDHouse:
Please provide what these people said about Jesus and try to correlate with what his friends penned down about him! cheesy

So it's no longer just "historian OUTSIDE JESUS FRIENDS" cheesy grin cheesy grin grin

You shall know the truth and the BP will continue to rise cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by Aemmyjah(m): 12:38pm On Jun 15
Emusan:


So where did you get the 537BC from?

A. Bible
B. Archeologist
3. Watchtower publication



A Bible believer will accept both Bible and archeological evidence because they never contradict.

The funny thing is, you people thought there's no explanation for the 70 years by historians but the truth is Watchtower decided to ignored those explanation because it contradicted 1914.

Yes! In case you don't know the 70 years was also explained by the historians.

Definitely, you're ignorant of this!



Stop lying just to please your gods in Warwick.

We have archeological evidence for David existence and more were still been unearthed.



Here come the victim mentality.

Did watchtower not chose the side of history by agreed with the year 537BC?

So because 1914 never had any archeological support we should just agree with watchtower simply because they said so.

Is that how you become a graduate in science?



Not blindly.

Then you will see the lies of watchtower trying being sold to you.

Do your research and see how the historians explain the 70 years.

Stop watchtower deception of we are following God's word



Not when archeological evidence involved.

Do you think the year we are talking about is just an historians research work?

O ma se ooo

Again, there is an ARCHEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE THAT SUPPORT 587BC do you know what that means?

Continue to be restless with the truth.


Does Archaeology corroborate what Bible says

A. Always
B. Often
C. Seldom
D. Never

If a believer sees something from the Bible that is not supported by archaeology, which should be go for? Archaeology or Bible

Does Archaeology tell us that Israel spend 70 years in Egypt as Jehovah says? No. Fake churchian like you will stand with archaeology

Does Archaeology confirm or give any existence of Joseph in Egypt? No

Does Archaeology give any evidence of the Exodus? No

Does Archaeology give proof of the tower of Babel? No

The only archaeological proof of David is just a stone that has his name on it and archaeologists dispute about it that it is a significant proof


Mind you, the watchtower publication which has 2 main magazines - watchtower and awake is the most distributed and translated magazine. Our website is the most visited religious website and the most translated website - Google, Facebook and YouTube does not even come any close. Our books are not for profit like your own church people do. Who has not heard about watchtower magazines before or the Awake or Bible Teach book or Enjoy Life book or Book of Bible stories which all are from our publications and I have not mentioned Caleb n Sophia videos. Mention the websites of your own church or what they are producing.


Now let's go back to 537 BCE, it was well established that the Babylonian empire came to an end in October 539BCE following the conquest by Cyrus as prophesied since the time of Isaiah over 100 years earlier. And in 537 BCE, the Jews were freed. The Bible never mentions specific dates of any events but chronology and reliable secular history can help one to find the dates

Was Jehovah accurate about who will destroy Babylon, how and the name of the person to free the Jews? Yes

What Jehovah said about the time the Jews will spend as captives (70 years), should we say his prophecy failed cos many historians conclude otherwise or, that Jehovah is always right and that 70 years will lead us to 607 BCE?

Note that even the years they spend in captivity, some historians say 48 years, some 50, some 56, some 60, etc. Even the dates of birth of sequence of rulership of the kings of Babylon do not tally according to historians and some kings are left out of the picture


So rest
You know little about the Bible
You should hide your face when JWs are speaking about Bible

We have even published an article about it. Why not check it yourself?

https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/wp20111001/When-Was-Ancient-Jerusalem-Destroyed-Part-One/


Why am I, Emmanuel choosing 607BCE as the year Jerusalem was destroyed? Is it cos of the Watchtower society says so? No
It is because, I am personally convinced that God's word is true and no element of lies or inaccuracy is on it as I've examined unlike human literature or history. So if the Jews were released on 537 BCE, then counting back the years that Jehovah said they will spend which is 70 years leads me to 607BCE. To hell with whatever secular history will say whether they confirm it or not ..


Emusan, answer this 3 questions?
1. Was Jehovah accurate that Jerusalem will be destroyed by the Babylonians?

2. Was Jehovah accurate that the king of Babylon take the Jews captive to his own land?

3. Was Jehovah accurate that Babylon (the former world power ) will be destroyed by Cyrus without a battle

4. Was Jehovah accurate that the Jews will regain freedom from Jerusalem

5. Was Jehovah accurate that the Jews will spend 70 years, not 50 years , 70 years in Babylonian captivity?


Answer the 5 questions and let us see whether it's the JWs you're trying to shame or the God of the Bible who you claim to worship
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by achorladey: 12:46pm On Jun 15
Edybleketara:
Just say you can't answer his question, otherwise you'd have focused on the message rather than the messenger.


Those questions are beyond him and he is using every means to run away from them including asking us to abandon his thread for him grin grin grin
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by achorladey: 12:47pm On Jun 15
oteneaaron:


Loooool

E pain the guy!

Since you're the owner of Nairaland why don't you just delete my comment?

There is no need for the name calling - you know that I'm not an atheist.

😁😁😁

You're entire faith is based on 1914 and this has been proven to be a big fat LIE.


Abi oooooo. Without 1914 God's organization becomes non existent grin grin grin

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Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by achorladey: 12:49pm On Jun 15
MaxInDHouse:


What is not destroyed in your own perception?

God, Moses, Jesus and Bible which of these do you have something tangible to talk about other than everything is false?

I went through the profile of Edybleketara and i've found something that shows he doesn't care whatever the Bible says so there's no need arguing with him!


Rathers than focus on the message attack the person grin grin grin grin
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by achorladey: 1:03pm On Jun 15
Aemmyjah:



Does Archaeology corroborate what Bible says

A. Always
B. Often
C. Seldom
D. Never

If a believer sees something from the Bible that is not supported by archaeology, which should be go for? Archaeology or Bible

Does Archaeology tell us that Israel spend 70 years in Egypt as Jehovah says? No. Fake churchian like you will stand with archaeology

Does Archaeology confirm or give any existence of Joseph in Egypt? No

Does Archaeology give any evidence of the Exodus? No

Does Archaeology give proof of the tower of Babel? No

The only archaeological proof of David is just a stone that has his name on it and archaeologists dispute about it that it is a significant proof


Mind you, the watchtower publication which has 2 main magazines - watchtower and awake is the most distributed and translated magazine. Our website is the most visited religious website and the most translated website - Google, Facebook and YouTube does not even come any close. Our books are not for profit like your own church people do. Who has not heard about watchtower magazines before or the Awake or Bible Teach book or Enjoy Life book or Book of Bible stories which all are from our publications and I have not mentioned Caleb n Sophia videos. Mention the websites of your own church or what they are producing.


Now let's go back to 537 BCE, it was well established that the Babylonian empire came to an end in October 539BCE following the conquest by Cyrus as prophesied since the time of Isaiah over 100 years earlier. And in 537 BCE, the Jews were freed. The Bible never mentions specific dates of any events but chronology and reliable secular history can help one to find the dates

Was Jehovah accurate about who will destroy Babylon, how and the name of the person to free the Jews? Yes

What Jehovah said about the time the Jews will spend as captives (70 years), should we say his prophecy failed cos many historians conclude otherwise or, that Jehovah is always right and that 70 years will lead us to 607 BCE?

Note that even the years they spend in captivity, some historians say 48 years, some 50, some 56, some 60, etc. Even the dates of birth of sequence of rulership of the kings of Babylon do not tally according to historians and some kings are left out of the picture


So rest
You know little about the Bible
You should hide your face when JWs are speaking about Bible

We have even published an article about it. Why not check it yourself?

https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/wp20111001/When-Was-Ancient-Jerusalem-Destroyed-Part-One/


Why am I, Emmanuel choosing 607BCE as the year Jerusalem was destroyed? Is it cos of the Watchtower society says so? No
It is because, I am personally convinced that God's word is true and no element of lies or inaccuracy is on it as I've examined unlike human literature or history. So if the Jews were released on 537 BCE, then counting back the years that Jehovah said they will spend which is 70 years leads me to 607BCE. To hell with whatever secular history will say whether they confirm it or not ..


Emusan, answer this 3 questions?
1. Was Jehovah accurate that Jerusalem will be destroyed by the Babylonians?

2. Was Jehovah accurate that the king of Babylon take the Jews captive to his own land?

3. Was Jehovah accurate that Babylon (the former world power ) will be destroyed by Cyrus without a battle

4. Was Jehovah accurate that the Jews will regain freedom from Jerusalem

5. Was Jehovah accurate that the Jews will spend 70 years, not 50 years , 70 years in Babylonian captivity?


Answer the 5 questions and let us see whether it's the JWs you're trying to shame or the God of the Bible who you claim to worship


Just show 537 BCE from your Bible another long write up follows grin grin grin grin

Why am I, Emmanuel choosing 607BCE as the year Jerusalem was destroyed? Is it cos of the Watchtower society says so? No

Good

It is because, I am personally convinced that God's word is true and no element of lies or inaccuracy is on it as I've examined unlike human literature or history.


Human literature is what you relied upon to say the Israelites returned back in 537 and you already admit they are inaccurate grin grin grin grin

So if the Jews were released on 537 BCE, then counting back the years that Jehovah said they will spend which is 70 years leads me to 607BCE. To hell with whatever secular history will say whether they confirm it or not ..


What your brains didn't sleep well upon is. It is the same secular history that tells you 537 you are using to count 70 years backwards. It is not your Bible that says 537B.C.E. grin grin grin grin. Reason well. The foundation of your defense is faulty grin grin grin grin


Building 1914 on the inaccuracies and lies of secular works of 607,537 BCE is equal telling us you are lying and you can't see it despite it being in front of your eyes like the nose grin grin grin
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by Aemmyjah(m): 1:09pm On Jun 15
Emusan

Emusan, answer this 3 questions?
1. Was Jehovah accurate that Jerusalem will be destroyed by the Babylonians?

2. Was Jehovah accurate that the king of Babylon take the Jews captive to his own land?

3. Was Jehovah accurate that Babylon (the former world power ) will be destroyed by Cyrus without a battle

4. Was Jehovah accurate that the Jews will regain freedom from Jerusalem

5. Was Jehovah accurate that the Jews will spend 70 years, not 50 years , 70 years in Babylonian captivity?


Answer the 5 questions and let us see whether it's the JWs you're trying to shame or the God of the Bible who you claim to worship
Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by Aemmyjah(m): 1:17pm On Jun 15
Answer this 3 questions?
1. Was Jehovah accurate that Jerusalem will be destroyed by the Babylonians?

2. Was Jehovah accurate that the king of Babylon take the Jews captive to his own land?

3. Was Jehovah accurate that Babylon (the former world power ) will be destroyed by Cyrus without a battle

4. Was Jehovah accurate that the Jews will regain freedom from Jerusalem

5. Was Jehovah accurate that the Jews will spend 70 years, not 50 years , 70 years in Babylonian captivity?


Answer the 5 questions and let us see whether it's the JWs you're trying to shame or the God of the Bible who you claim to worship

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