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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by XshegzzyeeiX2: 8:38am On Jun 16 |
Mujtahida:Did finidi come out to say it's a false news? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:45am On Jun 16 |
TheGoodJoe:It is human to apologize and correct oneself. My first instinct when I read news on SM is to confirm if it is true. He should have confirmed if the news was true before reacting. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 9:01am On Jun 16 |
TheGoodJoe: No o they shouldn’t forgive o cos osihmen is the reason we couldn’t beat Benin Since Afcon that guy has been coming under attack because he didn’t score, folks have even blame him for not making us qualify for the previous World Cup. Let’s just continue that cycle of scattering everything because we can’t put our house in order. I bet you it’s best the striker keeps away from the national team for now cos if he comes back and does not score people are already waiting to pounce on him again. Let us keep forming moral agents and ignore all what brought us to where we are now. phew 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 9:07am On Jun 16 |
Alfryd: Finidi is a coward to say he can’t beg anyone to play for the eagles, the same players who played out their hearts during Afcon. That was subtle blackmail 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:10am On Jun 16 |
XshegzzyeeiX2:So you believe those who reported the false news but not those who say it is false. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zuchyblink(m): 9:14am On Jun 16 |
So una don sack una Ill-fated Guardiola 4 Likes 1 Share
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:15am On Jun 16 |
Goke7:This is entirely besides the point. The first thing is: is the news true that Finidi named Osimhen? If it is not true, then what is the justification for Osimhen's outburst? This is the point lovewins was at pains to make yesterday. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:21am On Jun 16 |
Mujtahida:Na only Osimhen ni…he get issue reacting without doing his findings.I remember how he later apologized to Punch newspaper. He need matured PA cuz he is now a global star
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by XshegzzyeeiX2: 9:23am On Jun 16 |
Mujtahida:When the person involved didn't come out to debunk the news what should I believe |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lovewins: 9:30am On Jun 16 |
XshegzzyeeiX2: Some of these takes are just disappointing. Let me create an hypothetical. If your see a news online that says your dad alleged something you know is false against you and it has trended, will your initial response be to go online and start calling your dad by his name and raining curses on him? That's even if it is true your dad said those things? No sane person will do that, and it's rather unfortunate you guys keep coming up with this ridiculous defence. First, Osimhen could have reached out to FINIDI directly to get clarification. Now it turns out Finidi didn't even say such things. Don't egg this young man to his destruction. When Colin Udoh spoke to Finidi yesterday, guess what Finidi did, he reached out to Osimhen privately. That is what normal human beings do. Don't reward or support bad behaviour. I think Finidi as coach of the Super Eagles was a terrible decision, it doesn't mean he should be disrespected like that. 10 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:58am On Jun 16 |
TheGoodJoe: Badges don't make you a good coach. Just like passing your driving test and getting your driving license doesn't make you a excellent driver. I don't think the issue is the competency of the coach . The NFF is corrupt and officials are in it for one thing "pecuniary" interest 💸🤑💲. We have known there is historical past and present continued godfatherism. I have known personally two NFF chairman and I do not 🚫 believe considering the ingrained culture that Finidi had a free hand in player selection. First problem was the team selection. Look at the Euros now do you see any player not in form selected or selected on emotive preference. You may see one or two but in general a big NO. The only basis for team selection is outstanding consistent top level performances in your club and league. We cannot dismiss the quality of the league either albeit there are exceptions. We had a midfield devoid of outstanding technical ability, creativity, innovation and unpredictable skills for competitive advantage. Outside of Iwobi and Fisayo, we had a series of water carriers, Onyedika, Ndidi, Yusuf, Onyeka ( rumoured injured) We then took to these qualifiers players who offered little or nothing and or where out of form and it recovering from injury. For example, KC, Ndidi, Yusuf, Awaziem, Onyeka, Onuachu, Ismail, Igboke, Onyeka ( injury ❓), Tanimu. That's shockingly incomprehensible 10 players in a squad who should not really be there. We now want Finidi to carry out miracles add to that they were mostly coming to camp very late. Not exactly the players fault multiple reasons national strike, logistics, etc Ajayi is not out best central defender, it was rumoured that Ekong our wall 🧱 of Jericho was recovering from injury, but claimed to be fit. However we found no problem with KC , Onyeka, Ndidi & Boniface all recovering from injury. It was obvious that Ekong was a big loss we did not find a comparable replacement. We played SA with Osayi playing LB a player who has never played that position before. We then played KC as a Right winger he just doesn't have the skill set to play that position, not surprising he was shambolic on the day. I would still appoint Finidi, if we are to be honest. Just looking at the team selection no one was filled with confidence against SA. Yes sentiment and emotive preference created a bravado of expectations that was based on thin air. There were multiple options to have invited and explore to choose players from, but we chose to recycle and not pursue best quality. I stand with integrity of Finidi don't think the blame rests with him , he probably thought 💭 he could make something out of a bad situation. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Alfryd: 10:15am On Jun 16 |
Goke7:How sure are you that he's referring to Afcon players What if he's referring to FOREIGN BORN player's You can't use your imagination to conclude what and why he said "I can't b g player to play for Nigeria" |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 10:21am On Jun 16 |
Eid Mubarak to all Muslims in the house …from your incoming technical adviser 😎 7 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:23am On Jun 16 |
Goke7: Finidi was given a poisoned chalice, he was set up to fail considering the circumstances. Now they can arrange a third rate European coach pay him in 💲💰🤑 and take 50% for themselves. It's how we DO. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 10:24am On Jun 16 |
Alfryd: Keep on defending Finidi, first thing he didn’t mentioned osihmen, secondly is not the afcon players, keep going on. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by superbloke(m): 10:32am On Jun 16 |
jihday:It is very obvious that everything that has played out was premeditated. The blame for all this drama is squarely on the NFF and its technical department. They wanted a foreign coach all along and it seems this was the avenue they could get what they wanted without resistance. How could it have taken months to appoint a coach and they did not even conduct any interview? That place is run like a cabal. That is where the change needs to happen for the progress of our football. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lovewins: 10:48am On Jun 16 |
Goke7: Wasn't going to respond, but you're being intentionally obtuse. Stop it. Don't conjure in your head what didn't happen. This is what happened in the meeting. Finidi was asked about Osimhen's absence and he explained that Victor was injured and hence couldn't be a part of the team. He was also asked by the minister about the attitude of players. Everyone of us saw how players strolled into camp. They've been done with the season for about 3 weeks but didn't take too seriously the games. Many didn't get to camp until a day or 2 to the game. Many of us here (and rightly so) condemned the nonchalant attitude the players showed to the game. That was the question that elicited the response of "not begging players". He went further to say were him to discipline players would he have the backing of the NFF because historically players misbehave because they know they have God Fathers in the board that makes them immune to punishments. I will post Verbatim point 4 of the circular the NFF recently released 4) Notwithstanding the challenges that attended the team’s preparations for the Day 3 and Day 4 games of the FIFA World Cup qualifying matches, owing to a 38-hour nationwide industrial action, the Board expressed displeasure with the poor attitude of some of the players to the National Assignment, and unanimously decided in favour of a more robust scouting programme of outstanding Nigeria-eligible players from across the four corners of the universe, who can add tremendous value to the nation’s flagship team. That was the trail of thought. It had nothing to do with Victor. This is where "not begging any player" came in I understand you don't like Finidi, but will you sincerely hope to be judged unfairly the way you've done since yesterday? I rest my case. 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:59am On Jun 16 |
Kog45:There's a clear pattern of this kind of behavior from him as in this outburst on matters that concern him. He should calm down oo. Like you said he's not the only player in this SM age oo. Players get attacked and criticized every time. It comes with the terrain. It's painful yes but like many have said he's a professional. I think there are better ways to handle things like this. I read Solace Chukwu talk about how from being a hero whose name is chanted by the fans, he was booed in the last game of the season. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 11:07am On Jun 16 |
superbloke:Una conspiracy theories ehn, they are unending as you guys have very fertile imaginations where you manufacture one unfounded conspiracy to another. They wanted a foreign coach all along and it seems this was the avenue they could get what they wanted without resistance Read this your statement. Now let's be factual. Who would have resisted them if they appointed a foreign coach? Is it today Nigeria started appointing a foreign coach? Generally speaking between foreign coaches and local coaches, which option gets more with resistance? You guys easy with making unfounded assertions. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:09am On Jun 16 |
Goke7:Sir are you talking about Finidi and Osimhen issue? The issue should not be Osimhen fan or Finidi fan but basically the issue shouldn’t have arise in the first place…Osimhen went overboard and no need for us to support Osimhen with that rants on IG,very unprofessional of him. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 11:12am On Jun 16 |
Mujtahida:the last time Napoli fans booed anyone was in the match against Atalanta in game week 30 and it was directed to all Napoli players not osimhen alone. What he did was not sensible yes but solace adding lies to it is not acceptable. I also read solace's piece. It looked as if he had issues with him before. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 11:22am On Jun 16 |
Goke7:Keep looking for how to fault him. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by superbloke(m): 11:26am On Jun 16 |
Mujtahida:It is not unfounded that before appointing Finidi, the preference was a foreign coach. It was reported widely. The resistance was from a lot of fans and journalists who wanted local after Peseiro and Rohr and all the money spent on them. It was reported that getting the money would prove difficult, especially as the sports ministry was u willing to assist. It was not long ago that this happened so I'm wondering why you're coming at me with "unfounded". Was it not here we reported that Allen Onyema said they should only hire a local coach (Amunike i think). This is someone who would typically support our team financially. Why did it take so long to appoint a coach? If there was proper interview and analysis on all the applicants and their capabilities, why the sudden panick and lack of belief in their well thought out decision? There's conspiracy, and there's deductive inference. They're not the same. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 11:26am On Jun 16 |
robosky02:i agree totally with you but you see this part all against African teams, it's very bad, e rotten |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by superbloke(m): 11:29am On Jun 16 |
I'm reading somewhere that the someone in the NFF reached out toPitso Mosimane for the job, but he declined because he didn't want to go against his country. Interesting! |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by superbloke(m): 11:33am On Jun 16 |
Mujtahida: Thinking about it again, I guess I should have said "it is looking like" instead of "it is obvious". Everything else I stand by. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 12:02pm On Jun 16 |
TheGoodJoe:So, does that mean anybody can coach without prior experience or whatever as long as the person has a coaching badge? There was a news about Kompany not having the required qualifications before taking that Anderlect job. Why did they give him the job when there were coaches with superior badges available? The tactics and football Ideologies from Pep, were they as a result of his coaching badge or personal prowess? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 12:05pm On Jun 16 |
People supporting Osimhen and people that are still hyping Peseiro belong to the same WhatsApp group. The fact that we're still mentioning Peseiro in this thread shows how low the standard of football in Nigeria has sunk. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:19pm On Jun 16 |
mostob: The question is simple, why did you guys prefer Finidi when experience wise and qualification wise, Amunike was superior. That is the simple point. Someone can prefer Kompany because he was City captain and privileged to Pep ideologies. So what is the reason of preferring Finidi. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:23pm On Jun 16 |
komekn: You know nothing about Finidi to say you stand with his integrity. Not saying Finidi lacks integrity but saying your statement is solely based on bias. As for coaching badges, tell me why top clubs stick to coaches that have it, if it is just a driving test. You call a course that literally shapes ideas, have practical sessions and theoretical sessions driving test. Maresca got his job at Manchester City based on his coaching badge performance and his thesis. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by comodo: 12:31pm On Jun 16 |
Mujtahida:NFF didn't have the funds for that. Sports ministry refused to support them. Now that the presidency have wedged in because shit don hit fan. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 12:55pm On Jun 16 |
superbloke:That's better. I try as much as possible to use the words 'maybe' 'perhaps' 'I think' 'it appears' on matters that I have no concrete, first hand information. |
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