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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 3:12pm On Jun 18
BlueRayDick:


He probably chose someone as deadly as he is and never envisaged they will fall out so soon.

Thus far this Fubara Dey match wike ruggedity for ruggedity

That is where he made the mistake. He should have chosen a ju man with extensive civil service history or something like that, not a rugged politician or grassroots soldier.

E get reason why Tinubu choose Fashola and the others to become governor and not some other qualified loyalists.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 3:18pm On Jun 18
izzou:


A man's character is revealed when he is given power!

Fubara and Wike must have come from way way back. To be the bagman of Wike must have cost you years of faithfulness and loyalty.

I no blame Wike. Power corrupts

Your first statement is correct but over their years together there would still have been subtle hints about his true nature. Hints that might have been too subtle for an uncouth fellow like Wike to decode.

The Yorubas say a man’s character is like smoke. It can’t be hidden for long.


Betraying Wike is not the issue. It is the speed with which he did it and the violence with which he is executing it.

Everything scattered like an atomic bomb within months o.

Nah, Wiki is all muscle and little sense.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 3:19pm On Jun 18
afrodoc2:


That is where he made the mistake. He should have chosen a ju man with extensive civil service history or something like that, not a rugged politician or grassroots soldier.

E get reason why Tinubu choose Fashola and the others to become governor and not some other qualified loyalists.

Love him or hate him, Tinubu sure knows how to select those who would hold forth for him. Fashola, Ambode and Sanwoolu are not known tested and rugged politicians; it’s obvious their selection was strategic .

He saw a lot of people that worked with him and seem more politically grounded but he never mistake of pushing them for the governorship seat.

Wike is making himself a case study for a political science discuss like this . However this matter ends , more theories about politics in naija will be propounded

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by WhoDeyHause: 3:21pm On Jun 18
Ballzproblem2:
grin I dey house,how wish I put body 😂.
Comot body jor. grin grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 3:21pm On Jun 18
izzou:


A man's character is revealed when he is given power!

Fubara and Wike must have come from way way back. To be the bagman of Wike must have cost you years of faithfulness and loyalty.

I no blame Wike. Power corrupts
Or there's so much a man can take when pushed to the wall.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by reccy(m): 3:21pm On Jun 18
Ballzproblem2:
whatever you say chief grin

Thank God you know that.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 3:23pm On Jun 18
BlueRayDick:


Love him or hate him, Tinubu sure knows how to select those who would hold forth for him. Fashola, Ambode and Sanwoolu are not known tested and rugged politicians; it’s obvious their selection was strategic .

He saw a lot of people that worked with him and seem more politically grounded but he never mistake of pushing them for the governorship seat.

Wike is making himself a case study for a political science discuss like this . However this matter ends , more theories about politics in naija will be propounded

Wike overestimated himself the way itsrm does. He probably chose his successor with the intention of using the guy as a weapon fashioned against his enemies, forgetting that the weapon can also be used against him.

His arrogance didn’t allow him to consider that any of his boys will turn against him.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 3:23pm On Jun 18
afrodoc2:
This just shows that Wike is a bad judge of character. So, out of all his proteges this Fubara was the one he chose to succeed him?

Nope, Wikes demands to control the Govt totally are beyond what any average man can bear. Sim is far from an Alpha, he was chosen because it is Ijaws turn to rule and Wike actually chose the meekest Ijaw man he could find in PDP. There is no other Ijaw man that you can trust to be a complete puppet. Sim was actually a good pick for the role of puppet, but Wike took his puppeteering too far.


BlueRayDick:


He probably chose someone as deadly as he is and never envisaged they will fall out so soon.

Thus far this Fubara Dey match wike ruggedity for ruggedity

Sim is far from deadly. He simply rose to the occasion. The demands of a job will bring out the dog in the man even if he never had the dog in him.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by WhoDeyHause: 3:27pm On Jun 18
BlueRayDick:


He probably chose someone as deadly as he is and never envisaged they will fall out so soon.

Thus far this Fubara Dey match wike ruggedity for ruggedity
Wike knowing who he is would always seek out someone who he thinks he'll be able to control or can't stand up to him when he barks orders. Was it not the same Sim that was called mumu and one who didn't know the power he had few months ago? He either underestimated sim or the threats and the massive support especially from anti wike FC that even grew after the presidential elections likely emboldened him to face his master square one.
There are some animals that no matter how small or domesticated they are, once they are cornered with no room to escape they start fighting back. I'm not talking about animals.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Balogunodua(m): 3:30pm On Jun 18
Ballzproblem2:
guess what popped up on feed , you can't make this shit up ,I didn't search for it 💀💀💀😂

Those guys are lesser evil compare to what Rivers have produced so far...


Kogi is a symbol.of democracy...no state has Kogi political stability.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 3:30pm On Jun 18
izzou:


A man's character is revealed when he is given power!

Fubara and Wike must have come from way way back. To be the bagman of Wike must have cost you years of faithfulness and loyalty.

I no blame Wike. Power corrupts

All of this is happening because wike is hated after the 2023 elections. If he had not come out for Tinubu, and had sat in pH, none of this would be happening. In fact people would be calling Fubara to order.

Fubara is riding on wike loss of goodwill as he has gone from wicked wike to weasly wike.

Wikes biggest mistake was thinking he could eat his cake and have it. Amaechi was a fantastic governor who was chased into apc by PEJ. This is crystal clear but it has not stopped the indigenes from hating amaechi for being a 'traitor'. So how much more hated will there be for wike who consciously and with no issues jumped ship to apc?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 3:31pm On Jun 18
Ibime:


Nope, Wikes demands to control the Govt totally are beyond what any average man can bare. Sim is far from an Alpha, he was chosen because it is Ijaws turn to rule and Wike actually chose the meekest Ijaw man he could find in PDP. There is no other Ijaw man that you can trust to be a complete puppet. Sim was actually a good pick for the role of puppet, but Wike took his puppeteering too far.




Sim is far from deadly. He simply rose to the occasion. The demands of a job will bring out the dog in the man even if he never had the dog in him.

Well you must have more info than me about the situation, but Tinubu also controlled Lagos state govt after he left to the extent that he is still in charge nearly 20 yrs after leaving office.

He also made serious demands of Fashola. Demands that Fashola fought for a while, but he finally had to acquiesce to because he was not built for a dog fight.

A factor might be that someone like Wike can keep loyalists mainly with fear. Once that fear is gone, the loyalty will also dissipate.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 3:33pm On Jun 18
afrodoc2:


Well you must have more info than me about the situation, but Tinubu also controlled Lagos state govt after he left to the extent that he is still change over nearly 20 yrs after leaving office.

He also made serious demands of Fashola. Demands that Fashola fought for a while, but he finally had to acquiesce to because he was not built for a dog fight.

A factor might be that someone like Wike can keep loyalists mainly with fear. Once that fear is gone, the loyalty will also dissipate.

Tinubu actually gives much leverage and is always a reasonable man who does politics of settlement well. Wike is a brute who won't allow you breathing space. Even check their approach with Ambode and SIM respectively. Tinubu was patient enough to wait for the next primaries while Wike na just animal with no decorum

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Godstime001: 3:35pm On Jun 18
BlueRayDick:


Not at all.

But I’ve been seeing videos of different non-state actors with guns and ammunitions coming from Rivers state .

Even the Nwanosike guy was even caught in camera making a cultist chant after threatening a sitting governor . Omo! I just Dey surprise say all of these things Dey happen and the police are helpless because the judiciary has made it difficult for them to know what exactly the position of the law is
About 30 percent of the police force self na cultists.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 3:35pm On Jun 18
afrodoc2:


Well you must have more info than me about the situation, but Tinubu also controlled Lagos state govt after he left to the extent that he is still in charge nearly 20 yrs after leaving office.

He also made serious demands of Fashola. Demands that Fashola fought for a while, but he finally had to acquiesce to because he was not built for a dog fight.

A factor might be that someone like Wike can keep loyalists mainly with fear. Once that fear is gone, the loyalty will also dissipate.
Yea, and a person that exerts influence mainly with fear is likely to go overboard with demands, the way someone like say a Tinubu won't.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 3:36pm On Jun 18
Ibime:


Tinubu actually gives much leverage and is always a reasonable man who does politics of settlement well. Wike is a brute who won't allow you breathing space. Even check their approach with Ambode and SIM respectively. Tinubu was patient enough to wait for the next primaries while Wike na just animal with no decorum

That one dey.

Like I said, the guy is all muscle and little sense.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 3:37pm On Jun 18
Theflint1:
Yea, and a person that exerts influence mainly with fear is likely to go overboard with demands, the way someone like say a Tinubu won't.

100%.

It’s just sad that it is the common man that will bear the brunt of this war.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by LordAdam16: 3:52pm On Jun 18
Ibime:


Nope, Wikes demands to control the Govt totally are beyond what any average man can bear. Sim is far from an Alpha, he was chosen because it is Ijaws turn to rule and Wike actually chose the meekest Ijaw man he could find in PDP. There is no other Ijaw man that you can trust to be a complete puppet. Sim was actually a good pick for the role of puppet, but Wike took his puppeteering too far.




Sim is far from deadly. He simply rose to the occasion. The demands of a job will bring out the dog in the man even if he never had the dog in him.

They are not from the region.
So it'll be hard for them to fully appreciate why things are different in Rivers.
I shuddered at the details of the deal Wike forced on Sim.

In the ND, your loyalist or protégé is a junior partner not a doormat.
Wike tried to play god and was promptly disciplined on how things actually work.
He brought this on himself.

-Lord

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 3:52pm On Jun 18
afrodoc2:


That one dey.

Like I said, the guy is all muscle and little sense.

The man was a political enforcer elevated beyond his core competence (election intimidation and ballot box snatching)

He never had the charisma or emotional intelligence to carry his peers (the governors) along. His attitude then was always I am carrying my ball home if you people do not kiss my arse.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by KingTom(m): 3:57pm On Jun 18
izzou:
grin grin grin
I sent this to my MIL, the woman don swear for me tire grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A40(m): 3:58pm On Jun 18
Personally I'm pleased Wike Don jam who go give am him size.

8 years Port Harcourt money no do you?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ballzproblem2: 4:02pm On Jun 18
WhoDeyHause:

Comot body jor. grin grin
Abi? who go dey give una Chelsea update if mistakenly die grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by WhoDeyHause: 4:04pm On Jun 18
afrodoc2:


Well you must have more info than me about the situation, but Tinubu also controlled Lagos state govt after he left to the extent that he is still in charge nearly 20 yrs after leaving office.

He also made serious demands of Fashola. Demands that Fashola fought for a while, but he finally had to acquiesce to because he was not built for a dog fight.

A factor might be that someone like Wike can keep loyalists mainly with fear. Once that fear is gone, the loyalty will also dissipate.
I don't know how true this is but during one of my shifts few years back I heard from one of the men who came around that it was monetary issue that actually began their rift, that when ambode was in an outing with his group tinubu called him for the usual demands and after speaking to him and they ended, ambode started complaining that it hadn't been long he asked for money and he's already disturbing him again that what self unknown to him tinubu listened to everything cause the call was still on dial. I don't know how true though but the person who said it is actually well respected and worked with Lagos state government.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ballzproblem2: 4:05pm On Jun 18

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Sportsweb: 4:08pm On Jun 18
This one is calling Tinubu. Why he no call Wike grin

Ikwerre local government chairman, Samuel Nwanosike defies Governor Sim Fubara's order, arrives his council secretariat, calls on President Tinubu to intervene
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by WhoDeyHause: 4:13pm On Jun 18
Sportsweb:
This one is calling Tinubu. Why he no call Wike grin

Ikwerre local government chairman, Samuel Nwanosike defies Governor Sim Fubara's order, arrives his council secretariat, calls on President Tinubu to intervene
If na you wetin you go do. grin
Only a president can override a governor. Not a minister whose side hustle is a godfather.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 4:16pm On Jun 18
What's wike?
A name, animal, place or thing 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 4:18pm On Jun 18
WhoDeyHause:

I don't know how true this is but during one of my shifts few years back I heard from one of the men who came around that it was monetary issue that actually began their rift, that when ambode was in an outing with his group tinubu called him for the usual demands and after speaking to him and they ended, ambode started complaining that it hadn't been long he asked for money and he's already disturbing him again that what self unknown to him tinubu listened to everything cause the call was still on dial. I don't know how true though but the person who said it is actually well respected and worked with Lagos state government.

Yeah i heard about. Not sure how true it is. Tinubu was always billing those guys, but he chose guys without political leg.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by WhoDeyHause: 4:19pm On Jun 18
Ballzproblem2:
Abi? who go dey give una Chelsea update if mistakenly die grin
No our inhouse port Harcourt fabrizio no go die. Just dey observe as the thing dey go dey drop updates. grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 4:28pm On Jun 18
afrodoc2:


Yeah i heard about. Not sure how true it is. Tinubu was always billing those guys, but he chose guys without political leg.


Tinubu needed lagos money to prosecute apcs larger agenda of taking over the sw from a federal govt with federal might and purse. Fashola was more focused on lagos on its own

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ballzproblem2: 4:29pm On Jun 18
WhoDeyHause:

No our inhouse port Harcourt fabrizio no go die. Just dey observe as the thing dey go dey drop updates. grin
ajegrin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by WhoDeyHause: 4:32pm On Jun 18
afrodoc2:


Yeah i heard about. Not sure how true it is. Tinubu was always billing those guys, but he chose guys without political leg.

Tinubu is more tact and would wait for the time to deal with you in contrast to wike who'll use aggression and threats if he sees you stepping out of line several people have even said it here. Even sanwo olu himself would probably not be happy when he first came in cause removing out of the government fundz to meet tinubu's demands would also affect his own when he wants to put his hands in the jar but seeing past antecedents he'll just continue being the stooge knowing he doesn't have enough in the tank to subdue tinubu, Wike himself should have given himself sense when he started seeing fubara gradually getting support especially as he knows what always happened with the past few rivers governors also involving himself but then baba is all for violence without tact, I just hope the next guber elections won't turn to a bloodshed after this gidigbo that's taking place.

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