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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 1:12am On Jun 25
Segedinho:
Lols.

Oasisx no dey disturb dis place with "lovers of Argentina" mantra
lipsrsealed undecided

Just google protest in Argentina June 2024 and see news

Some of the things I saw

Strike starting tomorrow June 25

https://crisis24.garda.com/alerts/2024/06/argentina-unionized-transport-workers-to-strike-in-buenos-aires-metropolitan-area-june-25

The Argentine president office called the protesters terrorists who are trying to overthrow the govt through a coup (Tinubu can copy this)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmk130phayM

This happened 2 weeks ago
Protesters clashed with police outside the National Congress building in Buenos Aires as lawmakers considered the reform bill.
Anti-riot police officers used tear gas and water cannons to disperse protesters and a car was set ablaze during the demonstrations.

Report of abuses during the protests by amnesty international
https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/amr13/8184/2024/en/
Argentina’s Milei government brutally represses protests against draconian anti-worker bill

Argentina's Senate passed a sprawling bill that is key to libertarian President Javier Milei's economic reform plans, while protesters set fires and clashed with police in the streets outside Congress.
https://www.reuters.com/pictures/pictures-protests-rage-argentine-senate-passes-reform-bill-2024-06-13/
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c255zdlde92o
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/13/argentinas-senate-passes-mileis-reform-bill-amid-violent-protests.html

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 1:13am On Jun 25
afrodoc2:


The date says Nov 1997. Abacha was even still alive then. Just goes to show you the level of ruggedness Onanuga had in his youth. People tend to become less revolutionary as they get older.

maybe that is why the man dey vex for 'son of bitches' he sees a bunch of pussies who have equated making noise on twitter and sharing links with activism. the ones who will see media stunt of fayose reporting to an efcc that will do nothing to him and say he has guts. the ones that will insult government day in day out on twitter and govt will ignore them

aisha yesufu can run her mouth day in and day out forming hard woman. them born her open mouth in the days of sgt rogers and the terror squad?

as an aside

https://www.nairaland.com/8132435/niger-reinstates-prison-sentences-journalists

maybe okpa missed this one
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 3:56am On Jun 25
raumdeuter:


That is the difference between reality and hypothesis. Ajaero dem dey call for 500K minimum wage, I am 100% certain if he is made Edo state governor today, he wont pay above 120K
Just like every employee thinks the employer should be paying more, working them less.
Like someone said, we all grew up and became the no nonsense managers, strict parents, wicked seniors, unromantic spouse, unreasonable lecturers, uncool egbons
Everything we criticized when we dey the other side. Just like spectators dey all sabi play pass Messi until dem enter field
When you are outside you can talk about ideals, when you get inside you know whats up

Everybody knows nobody will pay them 500k. Ajaero and the union also know this. They are only setting their negotiation point so high that they will arrive at a middle ground that works for everyone .

We see ASUU do this everytime. Anybody who actually thinks NLC wants above 120k is just clearly naive .

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:12am On Jun 25
larride:

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I dont blame the NLC chairman though, when the chairman see him lavishing money anyhow at a period of "austerity" and asking the citizens to endure, the union are well within their right to demand for a living wage.

Our politicians are not sincere, you cant keep asking the citizens to endure while you are lavishing the little you say is available.

You say you can't pay 150k as minimum wage but you want to spend billions on frivolities. Even if the billions you want to spend on frivolities will not be enough to cater for the 150k minimum wage, common sense dictates that you dont portray the govt as insensitive and callous.

The bold is the issue I have with those blindly defending this government . They see this truth but refuse to talk about it.

Saying “ when we are outside you can talk about ideals, but when u are inside u know talk is cheap “ makes no sense to me in this matter at all.

Life was hard under Abacha and guys like Onanuga were brave enough to fight Abacha to a standstill with everything they had . That is highly commendable .

Today life is even harder under the government Onanuga works for . All Onanuga does is abuse the people fighting against the hardship and even calling them unprintable names while his principal and the political class responsible for the hardship keep spending billions on frivolities .

My question is would they rather keep quiet and die in silence because Bayo Onanuga and his generation had fought for democracy over 25 years ago ? Should they take every nonsense being thrown at them while lying down ?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 4:21am On Jun 25
GloriousGbola:


maybe that is why the man dey vex for 'son of bitches' he sees a bunch of pussies who have equated making noise on twitter and sharing links with activism. the ones who will see media stunt of fayose reporting to an efcc that will do nothing to him and say he has guts. the ones that will insult government day in day out on twitter and govt will ignore them

aisha yesufu can run her mouth day in and day out forming hard woman. them born her open mouth in the days of sgt rogers and the terror squad?

as an aside

https://www.nairaland.com/8132435/niger-reinstates-prison-sentences-journalists

maybe okpa missed this one

The thing is that when people get into the positive of power, all their activism and populism disappears and they become more like the oppressors they once fought.

It is a pattern that has been repeated 1001 times in history, and has nothing to do with the pusillanimity of the new generation of activists.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:54am On Jun 25
BlueRayDick:
The bold is the issue I have with those blindly defending this government . They see this truth but refuse to talk about it.
Saying “ when we are outside you can talk about ideals, but when u are inside u know talk is cheap “ makes no sense to me in this matter at all.
Life was hard under Abacha and guys like Onanuga were brave enough to fight Abacha to a standstill with everything they had . That is highly commendable .
Today life is even harder under the government Onanuga works for . All Onanuga does is abuse the people fighting against the hardship and even calling them unprintable names while his principal and the political class responsible for the hardship keep spending billions on frivolities .
My question is would they rather keep quiet and die in silence because Bayo Onanuga and his generation had fought for democracy over 25 years ago ? Should they take every nonsense being thrown at them while lying down ?

Abacha by being military was an illegitimate govt. The first thing any military junta does is to suspend the constitution, So the Abacha regime was unconstitutional. So that was the main thing Tinubu Onanuga etc fought for which was to return the governance of the country to civilian rule and end the illegitimate military govt

Secondly I doubt this times are tougher than Abacha times whether economically or socially. Economically was when sawdust cooking took over, when ASUU went on strike and Abacha fired all lecturers, when critics of govt like Ken Saro Wiwa, Kudirat, Rewane, Omatsola etc were not just called uncouth languages like Sons of bitches but they were hunted down and killed,
Even arguing in Newspaper stands against govt can get you locked up.
So much that commonwealth expelled the country
That didnt stop Abacha from stuffing money in overseas banks that we are still cashing out 25yrs after his death

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:44am On Jun 25
raumdeuter:


Abacha by being military was an illegitimate govt. The first thing any military junta does is to suspend the constitution, So the Abacha regime was unconstitutional. So that was the main thing Tinubu Onanuga etc fought for which was to return the governance of the country to civilian rule and end the illegitimate military govt

Secondly I doubt this times are tougher than Abacha times whether economically or socially. Economically was when sawdust cooking took over, when ASUU went on strike and Abacha fired all lecturers, when critics of govt like Ken Saro Wiwa, Kudirat, Rewane, Omatsola etc were not just called uncouth languages like Sons of bitches but they were hunted down and killed,
Even arguing in Newspaper stands against govt can get you locked up.
So much that commonwealth expelled the country
That didnt stop Abacha from stuffing money in overseas banks that we are still cashing out 25yrs after his death

The fact that u think the bolded shows u are so detached from the reality in Nigeria as of today.

As bad as Abacha was , there are records that suggest inflation was reduced from over 50% to 8.5% under his regime. Today inflation rate stands above 30% in 2024.

Today Nigerians spend most of their income on feeding . A derica of beans is 2,000 and the minimum wage is 30,000. That minimum wage will not even feed a young school leaver for 15 days out of 30 days in the month .

Yes Abacha was a monster, a brute , a dictator and the head of an illegitimate government who stole from the country . But u saying the hardship in present day Nigeria is lesser than what obtained during Abacha days shows u are far away from the reality

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:06am On Jun 25
Talking about Abacha looting and stuffing money overseas so much that we are still cashing out 25 years after ; I hope we all know the Chagoury brothers are one of the accomplices that helped Abacha rob this nation blind .

As a matter of fact , Gilbert Chagoury was convicted by a Swiss court for laundering money for Abacha and he had to return $6million back to Nigerian government .

This same Gilbert Chagoury is whom Tinubu’s government awarded a 15 trillion road construction contract to in 2024 without following the bidding process .

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 6:12am On Jun 25
BlueRayDick:
Talking about Abacha looting and stuffing money overseas so much that we are still cashing out 25 years after ; I hope we all know the Chagoury brothers are one of the people that accomplices that helped Abacha rob this nation blind .

As a matter of fact , Gilbert Chagoury was convicted by a Swiss court for laundering money for Abacha and he had to return $6million back to Nigerian government .

This same Gilbert Chagoury is whom Tinubu’s government awarded a 15 trillion road construction contract to in 2024 without following the bidding process .

This is the reason for my response once i heard the Chagourys were involved in the road contract.


afrodoc2:


Bruv you need to recheck your calculator. Chagoury laundered many times more than 66m for Abacha.

No doubt , Tinubu and those brothers have a wicked plan.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:25am On Jun 25
afrodoc2:


This is the reason for my response once i heard the Chagourys were involved in the road contract.




As in ehn….

Looking back in retrospect sef , Tinubu may not have spent as much as most people assumed he did for the election from his own pocket.

I believe the Chagourys may be some of his major financiers and the costal road contract award is just a case of ‘I do for you, you do for me….. *in Wike voice *

I even read Tinubu flew in a Chagoury owned jet to SA recently
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 6:35am On Jun 25
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 6:35am On Jun 25
BlueRayDick:


Omo! 😳

The implication of this thing runs wild . It simply means none of us is safe .

Anybody can buy ur NIN details , use it to run a criminal parole and later law enforcement will be looking for u instead of the criminals .

For example they can buy my NIN details , use it to register MTN sim. Later when they kidnap someone they use the line to call for ransom payment . If police decide to check MTN’s record for who the line was registered to, they will just see my details and assume I’m the criminal when in fact I don’t even know a line was registered with my details.

Chai!

Who do we blame for this now ? Is it Pantami? Bosun ? Or the staff of NIMC both past and current ?
Hold on
If you are registering a new SIM even if I use your information I will still snap and thump print
Maybe I don't understand what the fuzz is about, I understand our information have been compromised but I want to understand how someone can use my name to register new SIM but my picture is not there
I also know my information can be dropped at a crime scene too but that sim own i don't understand
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 6:37am On Jun 25
BlueRayDick:
Talking about Abacha looting and stuffing money overseas so much that we are still cashing out 25 years after ; I hope we all know the Chagoury brothers are one of the people that accomplices that helped Abacha rob this nation blind .

As a matter of fact , Gilbert Chagoury was convicted by a Swiss court for laundering money for Abacha and he had to return $6million back to Nigerian government .

This same Gilbert Chagoury is whom Tinubu’s government awarded a 15 trillion road construction contract to in 2024 without following the bidding process .
Quick question
What will obi have done 🤣🤣🤣

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 6:42am On Jun 25
BlueRayDick:


As in ehn….

Looking back in retrospect sef , Tinubu may not have spent as much as most people assumed he did for the election from his own pocket.

I believe the Chagourys may be some of his major financiers and the costal road contract award is just a case of ‘I do for you, you do for me….. *in Wike voice *

I even read Tinubu flew in a Chagoury owned jet to SA recently

Of course, it was not all or even mainly from his pocket. Even in developed countries it is usually other people's money, either in the form of a few millionaires donating millions of dollars each OR a few thousands/millions of people donating a few dollars each. Then, in the US you hear about PACs and Super PACs.

All those groups are donating money to a campaign not for altruistic reasons but because they want something in return on the back end.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:43am On Jun 25
iamoyindamola:

Quick question
What will obi have done 🤣🤣🤣

😂

Obi… ah Obi… Obi….. * in Tinubu baritone voice *

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:46am On Jun 25
afrodoc2:


Of course, it was not all or even mainly from his pocket. Even in developed countries it is usually other people's money, either in the form of a few millionaires donating millions of dollars each OR a few thousands/millions of people donating a few dollars each. Then, in the US you hear about PACs and Super PACs.

All those groups are donating money to a campaign not for altruistic reasons but because they want something in return on the back end.


That’s true sha .

In Nigeria, It is the job of ordinary party members and government apologist to start spinning and coming up with reasons why the contract award is justifiable in an austerity period . 🤦‍♂️
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:48am On Jun 25
iamoyindamola:

Hold on
If you are registering a new SIM even if I use your information I will still snap and thump print
Maybe I don't understand what the fuzz is about, I understand our information have been compromised but I want to understand how someone can use my name to register new SIM but my picture is not there
I also know my information can be dropped at a crime scene too but that sim own i don't understand

U are asking this question when we still have pre-registered sim being sold in Nigeria till date ?

How did those selling pre-registered sim get it registered ?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 6:52am On Jun 25
BlueRayDick:


U are asking this question when we still have pre-registered sim being sold in Nigeria till date ?

How did those selling pre-registered sim get it registered ?

I haven't seen pre-register Sims for years since the regulation of nin was implemented even network providers that give out free sims have stopped
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 6:57am On Jun 25
Mr Integrity dey fresh.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 7:09am On Jun 25
iamoyindamola:


I haven't seen pre-register Sims for years since the regulation of nin was implemented even network providers that give out free sims have stopped

All these guys that do “register ur sim here “ still sell them. How they pre-register it, I honestly don’t know
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by KingTom(m): 8:02am On Jun 25
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Mr Integrity dey fresh.
E don dey rub carowhite? grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 8:08am On Jun 25
BlueRayDick:


All these guys that do “register ur sim here “ still sell them. How they pre-register it, I honestly don’t know

That thing is very disturbing for me because it implies that cloning of phone lines is going on in the open.

Quite literally anyone can go to one of those places claim your own line and get it registered. That is what I see as the implication.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 8:11am On Jun 25
GloriousGbola:


maybe that is why the man dey vex for 'son of bitches' he sees a bunch of pussies who have equated making noise on twitter and sharing links with activism. the ones who will see media stunt of fayose reporting to an efcc that will do nothing to him and say he has guts. the ones that will insult government day in day out on twitter and govt will ignore them

aisha yesufu can run her mouth day in and day out forming hard woman. them born her open mouth in the days of sgt rogers and the terror squad?

as an aside

https://www.nairaland.com/8132435/niger-reinstates-prison-sentences-journalists

maybe okpa missed this one
Before Onanuga there was, after Onanuga there will be, his past activism won't stop people from calling him out on his BS.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 8:12am On Jun 25
BlueRayDick:


The bold is the issue I have with those blindly defending this government . They see this truth but refuse to talk about it.

Saying “ when we are outside you can talk about ideals, but when u are inside u know talk is cheap “ makes no sense to me in this matter at all.

Life was hard under Abacha and guys like Onanuga were brave enough to fight Abacha to a standstill with everything they had . That is highly commendable .

Today life is even harder under the government Onanuga works for . All Onanuga does is abuse the people fighting against the hardship and even calling them unprintable names while his principal and the political class responsible for the hardship keep spending billions on frivolities .

My question is would they rather keep quiet and die in silence because Bayo Onanuga and his generation had fought for democracy over 25 years ago ? Should they take every nonsense being thrown at them while lying down ?

Like they used to say, talk and activism is cheap until power is given to you.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 8:13am On Jun 25
GloriousGbola:


That thing is very disturbing for me because it implies that cloning of phone lines is going on in the open.

Quite literally anyone can go to one of those places claim your own line and get it registered. That is what I see as the implication.

Wont they need to thumb print and do face capturing?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 8:17am On Jun 25
larride:


Wont they need to thumb print and do face capturing?
Won't be impossible for them to have access to face capturing and thumb print data if our data is as compromised as they say it is.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 8:18am On Jun 25
larride:


Wont they need to thumb print and do face capturing?

On the street? I don't think so. What I am saying is if you go to the office they follow process.. Tell us the last five numbers you use regularly. All of this is to verify you are the actual owner of the line. The people on the street are telco employees. So whatever they are doing is out of process and you are oyo.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 8:23am On Jun 25
raumdeuter:


Just google protest in Argentina June 2024 and see news

Some of the things I saw

Strike starting tomorrow June 25

https://crisis24.garda.com/alerts/2024/06/argentina-unionized-transport-workers-to-strike-in-buenos-aires-metropolitan-area-june-25

The Argentine president office called the protesters terrorists who are trying to overthrow the govt through a coup (Tinubu can copy this)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmk130phayM

This happened 2 weeks ago

grin

......I looked away cos he would assume I am trolling again. When I saw the mention, I burst into serious laugh. I scroll down to see rest in the camp are celebrating it as well, hence I decided to let them enjoy the victory over Agbado Camp.

In the evening, another Ellupee rushed to share a post that PBAT is copying PMB cos Alake presented a refined gold bar to the President, really got cracked again - like who actually is trolling. Well he was starved of likes and shares by his people cos some of them know the joke is on him. LOL!

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 8:27am On Jun 25
Theflint1:
Won't be impossible for them to have access to face capturing and thumb print data if our data is as compromised as they say it is.

I'm not sure anybody can falsify your thumb print or your facial capturing to register a new sim. I just dont see how its possible.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 8:28am On Jun 25
GloriousGbola:


On the street? I don't think so. What I am saying is if you go to the office they follow process.. Tell us the last five numbers you use regularly. All of this is to verify you are the actual owner of the line. The people on the street are telco employees. So whatever they are doing is out of process and you are oyo.

Yes on the street, if you want to buy a new sim today, you will do face capturing and thumb print. I think they even do it for sim replacement also and you need a valid ID also if I'm not mistaken.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 8:49am On Jun 25
larride:


Wont they need to thumb print and do face capturing?
My point exactly
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 8:50am On Jun 25
GloriousGbola:


On the street? I don't think so. What I am saying is if you go to the office they follow process.. Tell us the last five numbers you use regularly. All of this is to verify you are the actual owner of the line. The people on the street are telco employees. So whatever they are doing is out of process and you are oyo.
Why do you think it takes like 2 hours for SIM to be active after purchase
They are trying to verify your details

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