larride:


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GloriousGbola:
in the end to be religious you will have to accept some odd things and turn off parts of your brain. it is what it is.

the irony is that outside of the middle east, most muslims are taught to recite arabic, not actually read, understand and comprehend it.

which makes all the wolimat BS.

BlueRayDick:


Lolz.

U are preaching to the pope here . Jesus himself is a manifestation of the numerous prophecies of the Old Testament . The fact that Jesus was even someone whom Christian’s believed in was because there was the Old Testament which Christian’s believed in before believing in Jesus and the gospel he brought .

The only reason why Jesus has followers is because his followers confirmed most of the prophecies of Isaiah and other prophets around his death ticked all the boxes .

Matthew 5:17-20 reads as follows:
17 “Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18 “For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 “Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 “For I say to you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.


As for the adulterous woman , I was taking about the woman that was brought by the Pharisees who was caught committing adultery and they intended to stone her . Jesus practically said he didn’t condemn her and told her to go her way and leave her life of sin. This is the same thing celestials and those white garment churches do but Pentecostal Christians abhor them for that .

GloriousGbola:


I raise you surah 23 verses 5-7

when i was younger i read the Quran cover to cover so much that it became dog eared
so i saw the right hands possess wella

abi Isis who were enslaving women were reading a different Quran?

especially when you consider that Isis actually wanted to bring all Muslims under a single caliphate as it was before, not these bastardized hereditary monarchies or *gasp* kafirun democratic government?

do you tacitly admit that Islam like all other religions is at its core a religion for men?
why else would women not be promised their own virgins ?

i dont even want to go into the weird shit where a 40 plus Prophet Muhammed tells his paddytosure Abu Bakr guy i want to marry ya pikin.
imagine your best friend wanting to marry your six year old daughter and you betroth her just like that.

larride:


There's no way in my post where I said Old testament doesn't matter. Jesus Christ came to perfect the law, not to abolish it. The Pharises and Scribes held on to moses law and Jesus called them hypocrites and liars.

When they asked Jesus about the law and which one of moses Law was the greatest commandment, Jesus responded in Mark 12: 30 - 31, "Love the Lord thy God with all thy heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strenght. The second is this; Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these."

Check moses 10 commandment and the 2 Jesus gave and you will see that those 10 moses commandment are in the 2 that Jesus said.

As for the adulterous woman, I think you get it wrong. I attached the bible screenshot. Jesus said; I condemn you not, go and sin no more.

OasisX:




....let me correct/refute the underlined bro for knowledge and clarity sake.

The narrator is just one single person and his name is Hisham Ibn O'rwah Ibn al-Zubair who claimed narrating from Aisha. Guess what?! Aisha died on year 57 or year 58 after Hijra, while Hisham Ibn O'rwah was born in year 61 after Hijra. How can he claim narrating from her when she dies few years before his birth?

Hisham Ibn O'rwah is not an authentic narrator according to many Sunni scholars including Al-Soyooti who included his name with the
list of Mudalliseen (those who mix and hide the reality in their narrations) (Asmaa' al- Mudalliseen). Other leading Sunni scholars
like Malik Ibn Anas, Al-Midyani and many others refuse the narrations of Hishan Ibn O'rwah.

There are certain historic facts in Sunni books prove that the age of Aisha was between 20 to 30 or even more when her marriage with the
Proohet (SAW) took place:

Note that elder Sister of Aisha, Asmaa' Bint Abi Bakr was born 27 years before the Bi'thah of the Prophet (SWT) (Majma' al-Zawa'id, V. 9, P. 260, Omdatul Qaari Fi Sharh Saheeh al-Bukhari, V. 2, P. 93, al-Majma' al-Kaberi by Al-Tabarani , V. 24, P. 77 and many others].

This means that when the Prophet (SAW) migrated from Makkah to Madinah after 13 years , the
age of Asmaa' Bint Abi Bakr was 40 years. As the of Aisha was few years (or maximum ten years) younger than her sister Asmaa', then the age of Aisha when the Prophet ( SAW) migrated to Madina was not less than thirty years.

As the marriage took place two years after Hijra, then the age of Aisha was then more than thirty years.

Sunni scholars in Islamic Studies Centre in Cairo have refuted the widely spread narration about Aisha age and said that the age of Aisha when she got married to the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) was not less than 19 years. (Al-Yawm Al-Saabi' 10-10-2008).

BlueRayDick:


How did I get it wrong ? Perhaps u are the one who read me wrong .

I said Jesus did not judge the adulterous woman in accordance with the law of Moses rather he allowed her the second chance of going to sin no more . This is the believe of white garment churches when they allow oloshos and baddies to attend their church without judging them. Deeper life or MFM for example will judge u ; they make sure u don’t even have access to the judge premises with ur lewd dressing and nose ring as a female.

Each denomination/sect just choose whatever aspect of the religion that suits their leader’s bias and they make it into a doctrine . That’s my point .

GloriousGbola:


you are simply sharing the western friendly interpretation
no one has told this to sani yerima and numerous other devout muslims from the north who insist on marrying children.
they too will spit their own authentic hadiths defending child marriage

i am not your best friend, but does this mean i can marry your daughter when she is 18 tho? would you like be cool with that?

you no comment on my other comment but its all good.

OasisX:




....let me correct/refute the underlined bro for knowledge and clarity sake.

The narrator is just one single person and his name is Hisham Ibn O'rwah Ibn al-Zubair who claimed narrating from Aisha. Guess what?! Aisha died on year 57 or year 58 after Hijra, while Hisham Ibn O'rwah was born in year 61 after Hijra. How can he claim narrating from her when she dies few years before his birth?

Hisham Ibn O'rwah is not an authentic narrator according to many Sunni scholars including Al-Soyooti who included his name with the
list of Mudalliseen (those who mix and hide the reality in their narrations) (Asmaa' al- Mudalliseen). Other leading Sunni scholars
like Malik Ibn Anas, Al-Midyani and many others refuse the narrations of Hishan Ibn O'rwah.

There are certain historic facts in Sunni books prove that the age of Aisha was between 20 to 30 or even more when her marriage with the
Proohet (SAW) took place:

Note that elder Sister of Aisha, Asmaa' Bint Abi Bakr was born 27 years before the Bi'thah of the Prophet (SWT) (Majma' al-Zawa'id, V. 9, P. 260; Omdatul Qaari Fi Sharh Sahih Bukhari, V. 2, P. 93; al-Majma' al-Kaberi by Al-Tabarani , V. 24, P. 77 and many others].

This means that when the Prophet (SAW) migrated from Makkah to Madinah after 13 years, the age of Asmaa' Bint Abi Bakr was 40 years. As the of Aisha was few years (or maximum ten years) younger than her sister Asmaa', then the age of Aisha when the Prophet (SAW) migrated to Madina was not less than thirty years.

As the marriage took place two years after Hijra, then the age of Aisha was then more than thirty years.

Sunni scholars in Islamic Studies Centre in Cairo have refuted the widely spread narration about Aisha age and said that the age of Aisha when she got married to the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) was not less than 19 years. (Al-Yawm Al-Saabi' 10-10-2008).

OasisX:




.....no matter any number of books they referenced, there still just a narrator of that shît. LOL!

Let me address the 2nd for knowledge and clarity sake as well. Screenshot you attached shows that Allah [SWT] warns against transgressing. There is a clear guideline to have sex with a slave in the Qur'an - marriage.

Atleast we have seen many movies and series that show freeborns and slaves can't be mixed in those days. If a slave gains freedom, he would still be seen and sometimes addressed like a slave. What do change is; he/she won't be serving any Boss, technically, again.

The ayah is simply telling you can only have sex with your wives [freeborn] and slave [that you have married] not running helter skelter with your Gbola knacking all within your reach as slaves habibi. LOL!

The condition to knacking slave is clearly spelled out in Qur'an 4:25 bro. Note the Surah is wholly dedicated to Women.

afrodoc2:


19 years or 30 years? Ustaz please pick a struggle.

GloriousGbola:


unfortunately, Isis must have been reading a different interpretation of the Quran

the true litmus test is what would happen in a world where Islam is dominant and muslims would not need to be politically correct to get on with hegemonic western infidels

OasisX:




.....we are in the era already bro. Visit Dubai and witness it. LOL!

GloriousGbola:


which dubai?

maybe i am reading it wrong but this is what i see.

the arabs are rich because the west derided on oil as a source of energy. they can see that today - everyone is discovering oil in their backyards and b - the west is moving or pivoting from oil . they have decided on tourism. not religious tourism - which did fk al for saudi before oil, but western driven tourism. dubai where you can now drink and cohabit ? you think you can bring in hedonist western tourists to your place and still impose sharia?

Saudi is slowly doing same. if they do not do this - that western driven prosperity will collapse and they will devolve to pakistan \bangladesh in a generation

GloriousGbola:
in the end to be religious you will have to accept some odd things and turn off parts of your brain. it is what it is.

the irony is that outside of the middle east, most muslims are taught to recite arabic, not actually read, understand and comprehend it.

which makes all the wolimat BS.

OasisX:




.......wetin be koko be say; she don mature when Holy Prophet married her Doc. She's between 20 and 30 based on veriable evidence from reliable sources across all sects. LOL!

afrodoc2:


30 is out of it. If you say 20 it is possible, though not probable. She was most likely a teenager. The reasonable debate is whether she was in her early teens or late teens.

izzou gold circle merchant:
Which kind royal rumble dey happen here?

Bombblacks:

So the paradise also has printing press, book factory and library. So how about babies and young children (1 to 7) , will they also give account from their books or those ones go directly to paradise. In the paradise will family members stay together in one mansion or each person has different mansion? Sorry for the questions but am just curious.

OasisX:


......I agree with you - 30 is out of it, and that's why some scholars came to a conclusion that she's 19.

TrebleChamp:
So apt, basic reason doesn't go well mix with religion. Example is Allah (God) allowing Adam and Eve to sin (he already new it would happen before he created us), and then created Hell to punish the rest of humanity for committing sin.
I once told a Christian friend that Judas is innocent and probably balling in heaven, because it was already destined before he was even borne that he will betray Jesus. Dude just stared at me confused and wondering how to respond, he finally said God knows best...

izzou:
This Oloture movie na just waste of time and hopes.

afrodoc2:


So why you come drop that lamba?

Ustaz, be kiaful o. I dey gbadun your exegesis but you should not start adding ajasa to it.

afrodoc2:


So why you come drop that lamba?

Ustaz, be kiaful o. I dey gbadun your exegesis but you should not start adding ajasa to it.

GloriousGbola:


leave oasis

dude has a set of folders with responses for each situation

eg

fundamentalist muslim - it is a mans right to have four wives
liberal muslim - treat the wives equally
nominal muslim - you wouldnt understand because you must read surah x.y in ---arabic
indiffernt kaffir - you people do the same it is called serial monogamy
miltant atheist - you people only just gave women voting rights like 100 years ago
woke liberal - islam give women rights and agency

OasisX:




......it ain't lamba Doc, rather research work to correct the misconception with reference to Aisha Elder Sister age before and after Hijra.