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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Bombblacks: 9:21am On Jun 30 |
larride:Nice one. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 9:24am On Jun 30 |
in the end to be religious you will have to accept some odd things and turn off parts of your brain. it is what it is. the irony is that outside of the middle east, most muslims are taught to recite arabic, not actually read, understand and comprehend it. which makes all the wolimat BS. 7 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:27am On Jun 30 |
GloriousGbola: This is the truth and absolute truth about religion . |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 9:34am On Jun 30 |
BlueRayDick: There's no way in my post where I said Old testament doesn't matter. Jesus Christ came to perfect the law, not to abolish it. The Pharises and Scribes held on to moses law and Jesus called them hypocrites and liars. When they asked Jesus about the law and which one of moses Law was the greatest commandment, Jesus responded in Mark 12: 30 - 31, "Love the Lord thy God with all thy heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strenght. The second is this; Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these." Check moses 10 commandment and the 2 Jesus gave and you will see that those 10 moses commandment are in the 2 that Jesus said. As for the adulterous woman, I think you get it wrong. I attached the bible screenshot. Jesus said; I condemn you not, go and sin no more.
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 9:49am On Jun 30 |
GloriousGbola: ....let me correct/refute the underlined bro for knowledge and clarity sake. The narrator is just one single person and his name is Hisham Ibn O'rwah Ibn al-Zubair who claimed narrating from Aisha. Guess what?! Aisha died on year 57 or year 58 after Hijra, while Hisham Ibn O'rwah was born in year 61 after Hijra. How can he claim narrating from her when she dies few years before his birth? Hisham Ibn O'rwah is not an authentic narrator according to many Sunni scholars including Al-Soyooti who included his name with the list of Mudalliseen (those who mix and hide the reality in their narrations) (Asmaa' al- Mudalliseen). Other leading Sunni scholars like Malik Ibn Anas, Al-Midyani and many others refuse the narrations of Hishan Ibn O'rwah. There are certain historic facts in Sunni books prove that the age of Aisha was between 20 to 30 or even more when her marriage with the Proohet (SAW) took place: Note that elder Sister of Aisha, Asmaa' Bint Abi Bakr was born 27 years before the Bi'thah of the Prophet (SWT) (Majma' al-Zawa'id, V. 9, P. 260; Omdatul Qaari Fi Sharh Sahih Bukhari, V. 2, P. 93; al-Majma' al-Kaberi by Al-Tabarani , V. 24, P. 77 and many others]. This means that when the Prophet (SAW) migrated from Makkah to Madinah after 13 years, the age of Asmaa' Bint Abi Bakr was 40 years. As the of Aisha was few years (or maximum ten years) younger than her sister Asmaa', then the age of Aisha when the Prophet (SAW) migrated to Madina was not less than thirty years. As the marriage took place two years after Hijra, then the age of Aisha was then more than thirty years. Sunni scholars in Islamic Studies Centre in Cairo have refuted the widely spread narration about Aisha age and said that the age of Aisha when she got married to the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) was not less than 19 years. (Al-Yawm Al-Saabi' 10-10-2008). 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:51am On Jun 30 |
larride: How did I get it wrong ? Perhaps u are the one who read me wrong . I said Jesus did not judge the adulterous woman in accordance with the law of Moses rather he allowed her the second chance of going to sin no more . This is the believe of white garment churches when they allow oloshos and baddies to attend their church without judging them. Deeper life or MFM for example will judge u ; they make sure u don’t even have access to the judge premises with ur lewd dressing and nose ring as a female. Each denomination/sect just choose whatever aspect of the religion that suits their leader’s bias and they make it into a doctrine . That’s my point . |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 9:58am On Jun 30 |
OasisX: you are simply sharing the western friendly interpretation no one has told this to sani yerima and numerous other devout muslims from the north who insist on marrying children. they too will spit their own authentic hadiths defending child marriage i am not your best friend, but does this mean i can marry your daughter when she is 18 tho? would you like be cool with that? you no comment on my other comment but its all good. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 10:11am On Jun 30 |
BlueRayDick: Okay I think you mistyped some word in your previous post. Any church that turns anyone away because they think they are sinners dont know what they are doing. It has no basis in the bible. Everyone is welcomed in the church. The church is like a clinic where every sick person is allowed him and attended to till they get healed (salvation). That's why true churches calls for sinners after preaching who wants to give their life to God or rededicate their lives to God. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 10:16am On Jun 30 |
GloriousGbola: .....no matter any number of books they referenced, there still just a narrator of that shît. LOL! Let me address the 2nd for knowledge and clarity sake as well. Screenshot you attached shows that Allah [SWT] warns against transgressing. There is a clear guideline to have sex with a slave in the Qur'an - marriage. Atleast we have seen many movies and series that show freeborns and slaves can't be mixed in those days. If a slave gains freedom, he would still be seen and sometimes addressed like a slave. What do change is; he/she won't be serving any Boss, technically, again. The ayah is simply telling you can only have sex with your wives [freeborn] and slave [that you have married] not running helter skelter with your Gbola knacking all within your reach as slaves habibi. LOL! The condition to knacking slave is clearly spelled out in Qur'an 4:25 bro. Note the Surah is wholly dedicated to Women. "And whoever among you has not within his power ampleness of means to marry free believing women, then (he may marry) of those whom your right hands possess from among your believing maidens; and Allah knows best your faith: you are (sprung) the one from the other; so marry them with the permission of their masters, and give them their dowries justly…” 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 10:20am On Jun 30 |
OasisX: 19 years or 30 years? Ustaz please pick a struggle. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 10:21am On Jun 30 |
OasisX: unfortunately, Isis must have been reading a different interpretation of the Quran the true litmus test is what would happen in a world where Islam is dominant and muslims would not need to be politically correct to get on with hegemonic western infidels 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Trevor012(m): 10:25am On Jun 30 |
The two most authentic book after the Quran in Islamic tradition ( Ṣaḥīḥ Bukhārī and Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim) plus 12 other hadiths clearly states Aisha age as 6 when she got married and 9 when Muhammad gave her gbola but one Oasis from Niger state is telling us he wants to refute and correct it 😂😂😂 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 10:25am On Jun 30 |
afrodoc2: .......wetin be koko be say; she don mature when Holy Prophet married her Doc. She's between 20 and 30 based on veriable evidence from reliable sources across all sects. LOL! |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 10:31am On Jun 30 |
GloriousGbola: .....we are in the era already bro. Visit Dubai and witness it. LOL! |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 10:36am On Jun 30 |
So the prophet may end up in hellfire in the after life
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 10:37am On Jun 30 |
OasisX: which dubai? maybe i am reading it wrong but this is what i see. the arabs are rich because the west decided on oil as a source of energy. they can see that today - everyone is discovering oil in their backyards and b - the west is moving or pivoting from oil . they have decided on tourism. not religious tourism - which did fk al for saudi before oil, but western driven tourism. dubai where you can now drink and cohabit ? you think you can bring in hedonist western tourists to your place and still impose sharia? Saudi is slowly doing same. if they do not do this - that western driven prosperity will collapse and they will devolve to pakistan\bangladesh in a generation 4 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 10:39am On Jun 30 |
GloriousGbola: .......ain't we saying same thing bro?! |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TrebleChamp(m): 10:40am On Jun 30 |
GloriousGbola:So apt, basic reasoning doesn't go well mix with religion. Example is Allah (God) allowing Adam and Eve to sin (he already new it would happen before he created us), and then created Hell to punish the rest of humanity for committing sin. I once told a Christian friend that Judas is innocent and probably balling in heaven, because it was already destined before he was even borne that he will betray Jesus. Dude just stared at me confused and wondering how to respond, he finally said God knows best... |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 10:42am On Jun 30 |
OasisX: 30 is out of it. If you say 20 it is possible, though not probable. She was most likely a teenager. The reasonable debate is whether she was in her early teens or late teens. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 10:45am On Jun 30 |
afrodoc2: ......I agree with you - 30 is out of it, and that's why some scholars came to a conclusion that she's 19. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:49am On Jun 30 |
Which kind royal rumble dey happen here? 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:50am On Jun 30 |
This Oloture movie na just waste of time and hopes. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 10:54am On Jun 30 |
izzou gold circle merchant: this is nothing guy this is a Civil argument back then it was so hot that some people threatened seun with a fatwa and he turned islam for muslims into a walled garden there was even a point when muslim would be corrected to Great One |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by islamics(m): 10:54am On Jun 30 |
Bombblacks: As for babies who died before the age of maturity; it is believed that they would be admitted into paradise without accountability cos they never sabi anything. For paradise , family (not extended) stay together. Family definition here means husband+wife+kid (unmarried as married would be forming another family setting too). As for the printing press/book, , no be as you write am cos that realm no be as you might think. It could be in any form. Which form it is going to take, my knowledge never reach to give answer for that. Abeg make the curiosity no reach cruise level. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 10:58am On Jun 30 |
OasisX: So why you come drop that lamba? Ustaz, be kiaful o. I dey gbadun your exegesis but you should not start adding ajasa to it. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 11:00am On Jun 30 |
TrebleChamp: ....every human has two destinies, choice is yours bro. LOL! Abdullah bn Mas'ud [ra] reported that Allah's Messenger [SAW] said: Verily your creation is on this wise. The constituents of one of you are collected for forty days in his mother's womb in the form of blood, after which it becomes a clot of blood in another period of forty days. Then it becomes a lump of flesh and forty days later Allah sends His angel to it with instructions concerning four things, so the angel writes down his livelihood, his death, his deeds, his fortune and misfortune. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 11:02am On Jun 30 |
izzou: Lmao. I was so pissed when I watched it. How virgin go dey do investigative journalism where she has to be an olosho. Come dey fly fence and all. Rubbish script. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 11:03am On Jun 30 |
afrodoc2: leave oasis dude has a set of folders with responses for each situation eg for polygamy matter. fundamentalist muslim - it is a mans right to have four wives liberal muslim - treat the wives equally nominal muslim - you wouldnt understand because you must read surah x.y in ---arabic indiffernt kaffir - you people do the same it is called serial monogamy miltant atheist - you people only just gave women voting rights like 100 years ago woke liberal - islam give women rights and agency 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 11:05am On Jun 30 |
afrodoc2: ......it ain't lamba Doc, rather research work to correct the misconception with reference to Aisha Elder Sister age before and after Hijra. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 11:07am On Jun 30 |
GloriousGbola: .....simply say; Oasis belong to all sects as well as belong to no sect. LMFAO |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 11:14am On Jun 30 |
According to islam
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 11:14am On Jun 30 |
OasisX: I am talking about the 30 yr old lamba that you mixed in your previous post, only to disavow it in your next post. Oh wrong nau! Also we can’t really use the elder sister’s age to judge because they were half-sisters and had different mothers. Some of Robert De Niro’s children are decades apart in age. |
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